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[Rubayed]

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England must apologise for accusations of cheating in 1992

Akram: England should apologise

Cricinfo staff

September 15, 2005



Waqar Younis and Wasim Akram demonstrated the lethal combination of pace and reverse swing in 1992 © Getty Images




Wasim Akram says England should apologise for accusing his team of cheating in 1992 when they used reverse swing. Akram and Waqar Younis used it to devastating effect in that series, and England employed the same art to similar effect all summer against Australia; Simon Jones and Andrew Flintoff were particularly adept at using it.

"England owe us an apology in a big way," Akram told AFP. "When we did the reverse swing against England in 1992, they were [the] great moaners and groaners of the world, [and] they termed it as cheating. And now when they achieved an Ashes win through reverse swing, it's an art," Akram said.

Akram, Pakistan's best left-arm seamer, and his pace partner Waqar Younis shattered England with a devastating display of reverse-swing bowling during Pakistan's tour of England in 1992, helping Pakistan to a 2-1 win.

England's tabloid press accused the pair, who took 41 wickets between them, of cheating and ball tampering. But England used the same technique to dismantle the much-touted Australian batting, and dethrone Australia as Ashes champions after a hard-fought 2-1 series which ended Monday.

"Now English bowlers know it, it's the art of reverse swing. Still, I am happy that they have finally realised the importance of reverse swing," Akram said yesterday.

Akram, who has taken 414 Test and a world record of 502 one-day wickets in his career, said Pakistani bowlers should be given credit for the reverse swing.

"This art has spread only because of Pakistani bowlers," he said. "Imran Khan taught me how to reverse swing the ball, I told Younis and we mastered it."

He said English all-rounder Andrew Flintoff learnt a lot from him while they both played county cricket for Lancashire in the late 1990s.

"He learnt how to hide the shine and he did that during the Ashes. Had I not told him, he would have learnt it anyway, but I am glad that he has learnt well. They have mastered the art of reverse swing and [the] Australians had no clue as to how to cope with the reverse swing," Akram said.

[Rob]

He has a point does Akram.

I forget who it was who brought it up, but they have been made to look rather foolish now. But, you come to expect that from England's crappy tabloid press

[Huda]

Originally posted by Rob
He has a point does Akram.

I forget who it was who brought it up, but they have been made to look rather foolish now. But, you come to expect that from England's crappy tabloid press

lol, yep the english press, are some devils

anyway, i cant wait for this winters tour of pakistan, should be a good contest, with another very good leggy in kaneria and reverse swing at its best from both sides.

[tiger_man]

Originally posted by Huda
tour of pakistan, should be a good contest, with another very good leggy in kaneria and reverse swing at its best from both sides.

havent watched pakistan play in a while....but are the new ones good in reverse swing??

[Banglatiger84]

In cricket, Murli, Akram, and most other subcontinental players start their careers beign labelled as cheats and get recognised later as geniuses.

While English and australian players a wonderful "good ole' chaps" who are sportsmanlike, and wonderful role models.

[Tigers_eye]

Originally posted by Banglatiger84
While English and australian players a wonderful "good ole' chaps" who are sportsmanlike, and wonderful role models.

Example: Sir Great Shane Warne. No matter what he does off the field he is still a great role model for the Australian media. (Not questioning his ability just pointing out Media's love affiar)

Sir great big mouth All knowing Botham. I am just happy Freddie and others will take away some of his gloss after the current ashes. England don't have to refer to Botham anymore for ashes tips.

[Padosan]

just one more example.

If sob continental spinners bowl from the rough
outside the leg stump, its negative tactics. but our Giles and Warne does it, hey thats the way to bowl.

[Huda]

Originally posted by tiger_man

havent watched pakistan play in a while....but are the new ones good in reverse swing??

akthar can reverse it, shabbir khan is also getting good at it, as well as iftikar anjum, but it depends if those two play.

[Rob]

Don't you mean Shabbir Ahmed?

He is a dirty chucker and until he sorts out that shameful action he shouldn't be anywhere near international cricket.

[Huda]

Originally posted by Rob
Don't you mean Shabbir Ahmed?

He is a dirty chucker and until he sorts out that shameful action he shouldn't be anywhere near international cricket.

yah shabbir khan ahmed, lol, he does chuck, but u cant blame it on him because its a technical fault, i dont think he throws on purpose. I ve seen him play in Doncaster in the U.k, before he got called up, hes a good bowler but he really does need to sort out his action