Shame, Shame ...

[fwullah]

Two debutant youngsters - Mushfiqur Rahim & Shahadat Hossain can stay at the wicket long enough to take Bangladesh pass 180 mark, and yet, the rest of the youngsters - from Mashrafee to Ashraful, nobody can even put their heads down and try to save a losing match.

Now if that is not shameful for Iqbal, Aftab and Enamul Junior, who have already played for Bangladesh for almost over a year, and also for experienced youngsters like Ashraful, Rajin, Mashrafee & Talha, then I don't know what is.

And let us forget about Bashar - he is experienced and successful enough not to play in any practice match.

[mahbubH]

The problem with BD players, at the begining they tried at their best to get a place in the team. While the place is semi permanent they become another Ash, Rajin, or whatever.

Hope this group (SN, MR, SH) will be different.

Edited on, May 17, 2005, 2:13 PM GMT, by sports_fan_bd.

[Spitfire_x86]

In your "leave alone" list, I would also add Mashrafee since he's a proven consistent performer like Bashar

[fwullah]

since he's a proven consistent performer like Bashar


Is he? He is not exactly a 'successful' player in either Test cricket or in ODI cricket. He never took a 5-for in either Tests or in ODIs. And if you call him an all-rounder, then how many times did he take 3 wickets or scored 50s?

[Spitfire_x86]

Mashrafee is not yet considered as an allrounder, he's still a bowler who can bat somewhat.

And Mashrafee's bowling stats is way better than Irfan Pathan, if you take out their bowling against BD and crippled Zimbabwe out of equation. Then Mashree's test bowling average becomes 36 and Pathan's average goes way higher (~67, IIRC). With this same method of calculation, his strike rate also becomes much better than Irfan Pathan.

Use Cricinfo StatsGuru and see the results yourself

Edited on, May 17, 2005, 2:55 PM GMT, by Spitfire_x86.

[Fazal]

<b> Shame Shame...</b>

puppy shame.

[Mahmood]

Hopefully this will bring down some of us back to earth.

Specially those who believes a win is definit.

[Ahmed_B]

YES!!

This should be a huge alarm each and every single memeber of the team!!!
And I will be very happy if they read the codes and act accordingly! :umm:

[howzatt!]

whatmore can still break his contract right? india seems to be going after chappel and moody. sri lanka's looking for a coach too. will whatmore leave england in the middle of this tour?

[Faceoff]

Chikon Gacher dal diya jodi amader khelowarder poshchate prochondo rokomer prohar korite paritam tahole boro valo lageetho.

[Sauron]

Originally posted by fwullah
Two debutant youngsters - Mushfiqur Rahim & Shahadat Hossain can stay at the wicket long enough to take Bangladesh pass 180 mark, and yet, the rest of the youngsters - from Mashrafee to Ashraful, nobody can even put their heads down and try to save a losing match.

Now if that is not shameful for Iqbal, Aftab and Enamul Junior, who have already played for Bangladesh for almost over a year, and also for experienced youngsters like Ashraful, Rajin, Mashrafee & Talha, then I don't know what is.

And let us forget about Bashar - he is experienced and successful enough not to play in any practice match.

I don't think the glass is half-empty. The way the two debutants carried it through is encouraging to say the least. Obviously both of them are playing to get in the first-11.

I'll bet that at least a couple of guys who thought they are permanent fixtures in final-11 are taking notice and will try to come back well in the 3rd practice match. One of them is Rajin, I'm sure. This is healthy to have intra-team variation of fortunes.

Btw, you sound extremely depressed. So does a lot of others in the forum. Guys, don't stop eating or sleeping. <b> Pls stay healthy</b>. Staying up late nights at a stretch for 5 days will be draining :-)

[Sauron]

Originally posted by faceoff
Chikon Gacher dal diya jodi amader khelowarder poshchate prochondo rokomer prohar korite paritam tahole boro valo lageetho.

:P:P

Vai, shudhu shudhu bachcha chhele gulo ke marben keno?

Shob cheye valo hoi jodi prohar ta conditional hoy. Catch miss ba loose shot khelle twelfth man eshe poshchate bari dibe. Tahole kichchu kaz hotey pare.

[Bangla amar Maa]

Arey shame er ki asey ? What's the point of the thread like this ? That was expected caz we have given more than 500 runs in their first innings and it's so obvious we can't make that many runs in 3 innings even .
I am not sad for the defeat caz it always proves our class and reminds us how bad we are as we are , so we have learn more and more ......

[Huda]

Originally posted by fwullah

since he's a proven consistent performer like Bashar


Is he? He is not exactly a 'successful' player in either Test cricket or in ODI cricket. He never took a 5-for in either Tests or in ODIs. And if you call him an all-rounder, then how many times did he take 3 wickets or scored 50s?

completely true. facts are what people go by.

THE ONLY 2 consistent perfomers we have are basher and rafiq whose stats are good in test cricket, but no where near respectable figures in ODI crickets, hence why we struggle.

[Tintin]

Innings and 384 runs, New Zealand v New South Wales, 1898-99 (not a Test tour)
http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Scorecards/f/4/f4801.html

Innings and 263 runs, Australia v Players, 1890
http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Scorecards/f/3/f3265.html

Innings and 254 runs, West Indies v Victoria, 1930-31
http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Scorecards/f/13/f13102.html


Edited on, May 17, 2005, 11:08 PM GMT, by Tintin.

[Samir]

i don't know if this would help me feel better...:(

[Tasin]

Great performance

:great:

Edited on, May 18, 2005, 12:09 AM GMT, by Tasin.

[shaoun]

mushfiqur rahim has to prove himself more. an innins of 63 against weakened sussex team is not enough for him to make test debut. but i must say he is impressive after his senior failed. he reminds me of partiv patel of india. who also showed great talent in the beginning. i just hope mushfiqur rahim doesnt end up like partiv patel. that is why he should wait for some time before coming to the national team. and we have khaled mashud who is one of the best keeper in asia. musfiqur should stay with pilot and learn from him before selected to the national team.

[Tasin]

Couldn't we hasten the arrival of BD A team and......

:lol:

[bhobishshot]

First of all this was a practice match. The goal of a practice match is to practice. I think we think we had plenty of that, specially for the bowlers since they bowled for 116+ overs. For our batsman, I guess they could have stayed a little longer in the wicket. But, I am completely puzzled by the fact that people are upset because our bowlers, Mashrafee and Jr., were not able to stay at the wicket longer. May be I am just strange that way.

Anyway, when I watched the vedio, it looked like our pacers had no pace! Sussex pacers (lewry and van darth) had more pace than our pace trio. Is that just in the vedio? All the banglacricket fans that were at the groud, can you guys confirm that?

[Rabz]

Originally posted by Tintin
Innings and 384 runs, New Zealand v New South Wales, 1898-99 (not a Test tour)
http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Scorecards/f/4/f4801.html

Innings and 263 runs, Australia v Players, 1890
Innings and 254 runs, West Indies v Victoria, 1930-31
http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Scorecards/f/13/f13102.html
Edited on, May 17, 2005, 11:08 PM GMT, by Tintin.

we r not Australia, and this is not 1890...
those figures dont count...

[Flipper]

Originally posted by Sydney
Originally posted by Tintin
Innings and 384 runs, New Zealand v New South Wales, 1898-99 (not a Test tour)
http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Scorecards/f/4/f4801.html

Innings and 263 runs, Australia v Players, 1890
Innings and 254 runs, West Indies v Victoria, 1930-31
http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Scorecards/f/13/f13102.html
Edited on, May 17, 2005, 11:08 PM GMT, by Tintin.

we r not Australia, and this is not 1890...
those figures dont count...

My friend, this is the shame area. Please check the other thread that title "NO SHAME IN LOSING". There are many recent scorecards posted, and I am sure you will get your answer.

Thread; NO Shame in Losing (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/viewthread.php?tid=11539)