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BangladeshFan
June 12, 2005, 07:36 AM
once again rana showed he is an essential component to the ODI side, 7 ov 17 runs 1 wicket so far. he would be in my team infront of shujon anytime:up:

Edited on, June 12, 2005, 12:37 PM GMT, by BangladeshFan.

rana
June 12, 2005, 07:58 AM
yes it,s very true

Spitfire_x86
June 12, 2005, 08:04 AM
Chacha > Rana

sham1980
June 12, 2005, 08:08 AM
hmmm close one to call....if only could bat nore aggressivly

Rubu
June 12, 2005, 08:12 AM
BangladeshFan, do u have your helmet on? You always need to put your helmet on before talking in favore of rana here (telling u from experience) ;) otherwise u'll not know where the stones are coming from and landing on your head.

[helmet on]Rana should definitely play all 6 ODI alone with Rafique[helmet off]

BangladeshFan
June 12, 2005, 08:37 AM
agent u r right, we have an active rana hate group here. however if one goes by performance of last few ODIs there is no way to keep rana out of the team.

if shujon is to kept in the side it has to be for a batsman which means dropping either ahsraful or tushar or nafis. but our batting is so weak, we cant do that. so no place for chacha at least for 1st few matches i think.

Mahmood
June 12, 2005, 08:40 AM
I am one of the biggest fans of Rana. To me, class or technic means nothing, performence is everything. Rana always performs.

Spitfire_x86
June 12, 2005, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by Rajputro
I am one of the biggest fans of Rana. To me, class or technic means nothing, performence is everything. Rana always performs.
From a different point of view, his performance looks not so bad when rest of the players performs poorly.

Out team will be always hopeless as long as we have to consider someone like Rana "useful".

Rubu
June 12, 2005, 09:10 AM
I know spitfire, you are the 2nd best rana hatter here. but where did the 1st disappears suddenly? I mean Sham. I had some VERY "lively" discussion with him about rana.

hopefully rana will play in the odi and prove u guys wrong once again!

Zunaid
June 12, 2005, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86

Out team will be always hopeless as long as we have to consider someone like Rana "useful".

Let's ignore the hate/love Rana issue for a bit. I too am fond of Rana but Spitfire has an excellent point.

You can have a team full of classy players, but if they cannot perform consistently to average at least 20, the perhaps a team packed with 11 utilitiy players like Rana will probably do better.

The real point is we are having to consider Rana because no one else performs.

Spitfire_x86
June 12, 2005, 09:26 AM
He will get chance in few ODIs, don't worry.

Our team will perform so horribly that team management will get crazy and make 2-3 changes in every match.

BangladeshFan
June 12, 2005, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
Originally posted by Rajputro
I am one of the biggest fans of Rana. To me, class or technic means nothing, performence is everything. Rana always performs.
From a different point of view, his performance looks not so bad when rest of the players performs poorly.

Out team will be always hopeless as long as we have to consider someone like Rana "useful".

spitfire from that point of view, someone like larsen should have never played for Nz. he was just a medium pacer whose strength was line and length, could get a few runs in the lower order. but he was selected in almost all ODIs for Nz and was recognised as specialist ODI player.

ODIs are played with bits and pieces players, tests are for specialists. rana may not be a wicket taking bowler in test matches, but his flat left arm spin is an asset for Bd. He is going to return economic spell in every ODI he plays.

Fazal
June 12, 2005, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by Rajputro
I am one of the biggest fans of Rana. To me, class or technic means nothing, performence is everything. Rana always performs.

Big Thumps Up!!!!

fwullah
June 12, 2005, 12:42 PM
Don't spoilt Rana's head now.

He may forget how to bat like Rajin (who is also a performer, not talented misguided fool like Ashraful or Aftab-to-be, or Iqbal-to-be)

DotBall
June 12, 2005, 12:43 PM
23.66 with and 3.83 econ rate with 18 wickets from 18 ODIs are healthy stats for any BD player. Plus he has been in a good form from last 5 ODIs. He should definately get to play most of the ODIs.

Rajputro has a very good point of performance over class and technique. We have yet to see how fast all our players can grasp this moto.

feisal
June 12, 2005, 01:07 PM
bangladesh fan,

during gevin larsen's time NZ was not asuccessful team.thier spirited run in 92 world cup was the only good story.. your main point is valid..bit bits of this/that one can be successful.. And rana indeed is a tidy performer..

problem is the formation of the team..our batting is so bad that we need 6 batsman.. and that is why to have another spinner become very difficult option...

on a sidenote, when u consdier last few onedayers, rana was not playing against India.. and in retrospect, that turned out to be a favor to him...

feisal
June 12, 2005, 01:11 PM
another caveat: today's performance of rana ..please do consider that the opposition was alterday struggling when he came into bowling.. do u think under the circumstances rafique would have done any less.? the way Rafique was reated by england in the test series and the away australians play..it will be really a brave decision to play two spinners to start the series. This is an excellent situation that we have aback up in Rana....

on another note, this was 'shining' for chacha.. as this was not a lost cause...

Fazal
June 12, 2005, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by feisal
another caveat: today's performance of rana ..please do consider that the opposition was alterday struggling when he came into bowling.. do u think under the circumstances rafique would have done any less.?

May be... may be not. For me I am not going to discount / diminish performance for that. There is a treand that people find all the excuse to justify Rajin, Ashraful, Aloke's bad performance even with weaker opponent, but wait a minute. When Rana perform the way each palyer is supposed to perform for their national team, all this stuff start bubling up... his bad techinue, he performed when it doesn't matter, against weak team.... etc... etc... I guess the secetors were in drugs when he was selected couple of times man of the Match......

Is there any personal thing that I am missing... at least that would make sense.

Dhakablues
June 12, 2005, 01:49 PM
He is another Mashud.. you can count on him always.. He is going to play no doubt. He doesnt need to do anything different,, he plays with his limitations but sure will not throw away his wicket for sure.

Beamer
June 12, 2005, 01:51 PM
We do have some dillema that I am sure the selectors are considering and thinking through. Given the brittle nature of our batting, it will be foolhardy to go into a match with five batsmen. Assuming, we will go with six specialist batsmen ( JO, Nafis/Rajin, Aftab, Ash, Bashar, Tushar ), Wkt Mashud and four specialst bowler. Among the bowlers only three are a gurantee
in Mash, Naz and Rafiq. Assuming here that Chacha will be the fourth bowler. Apart from Aftab, we don't have many bowling options form the top six batsmen. It gets even worse if Rajin is not picked ( they wanted him to succeed really bad judging the amount of chances he got ). So, its very very important for Aftab to bowl and bowl well ( cutting those wides ) since we need at least 7-8 decent overs from him. In the end, we must go with six specialist batsmen as that batting is the priority in our case. Going with five batsmen, as some people have suggested to accomodate both Rana and Chacha, will be futile to say the least.

feisal
June 12, 2005, 02:14 PM
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Is there any personal thing that I am missing... at least that would make sense.

fazal,

yes, u are missing the major boat as far as that particular post is concerned. and that is "we may not need a second spinner and as a single spinner he will not get the nod..as things stand now...".

Rubu
June 12, 2005, 02:23 PM
This is where I feel like jumping in. "we may not need a second spinner".

why we don't? Because of condition? what are the pacers doing with the condition? what are the reason to justify pacer heavy attack. will be get anything better than what we got before. NO. its time for us to move on to our strength than condition. we do not have quality pacers to take advantage of the condition. so, spin is the answer. just look at the stat, is rana and rafique's stat any worse than all the pacers except masri? no, actually its better.

our attack should be spin heavy from now on. either sujon/nazmul playing with aftab coming as the fifth bowler.

BangladeshFan
June 12, 2005, 03:04 PM
i dont think there is anyway we can drop this 4 bowlers..... mash, naz, rafiq and rana. australian or england batsmen are not going to take toll on Bd spinners, certainly not more than that of the pacers. Infact it was a mistake not to play enamul(along with rafiq) in the tests now as everyone has realized. onlyway chacha can get in the side is in place of a batsman but it is risky since our batting is really brittle. he can replace nafis(rajin is out of question) but then there is no other regular opener with JO.

feisal u r right in that rana was lucky that he did not bowl to india. but then even warne consider himself lucky not to bowl to india;)

howzatt!
June 12, 2005, 03:21 PM
Q: Who is the only BD player to have won man of the match awards in 2 consecutive games?

A: Rana.

Rana haters will be rana haters. Rana will continue to perform regardless. he is the only player capable of taking rafique's place once he retires. enamul is a better spinner, but not a perfect replacement for rafique.

Spitfire_x86
June 12, 2005, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by howzatt!
Rana haters will be rana haters. Rana will continue to perform regardless. he is the only player capable of taking rafique's place once he retires. enamul is a better spinner, but not a perfect replacement for rafique.
Rana will be always useless in Test. You don't have to be a Rana hater to admit that

howzatt!
June 12, 2005, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
Originally posted by howzatt!
Rana haters will be rana haters. Rana will continue to perform regardless. he is the only player capable of taking rafique's place once he retires. enamul is a better spinner, but not a perfect replacement for rafique.
Rana will be always useless in Test. You don't have to be a Rana hater to admit that

who was talking about tests?

feisal
June 12, 2005, 03:37 PM
agentsmith,

yes, i agree..'second spinner' is a much BETTER area for the discussion .. In fact, the radio commentator in windies rated rana higher than rafique during the one dayers (latter was wicketless..)... personally, i think they will go with three pacers..as MOST team has in england.. MOST team went if that does not work then back to a spinner.. or it will be other way round. problem is, i know as much as u do that NOTHING may work out if batsman put up 100/110 on the board... even if we bat again, it will depend WHEN spinners are in.. inside 15 or outside..opposition is 1/2 wickets down or rollicking around 7/8....

bangladesh fan,

well said about the Warne issue.. but he was not DROPPED by the selectors.. but rana was following his bowling in the test matches.. mind u he scored a fighting fifty in the dhaka test before his pair in ctg test. I will remember another incident though..the way he dropped ganguly in the slips in the dhaka test...

bottom line: it is more than a possibility that Rana will heature in the one dayers.. may be not on the first match..

Rubu
June 12, 2005, 04:35 PM
spitfire's argument that as long as we have to depend on players like rana there is not going to be much result is quite true but completely irrelevant. When time comes that we have good informed players to replace rana, I will be happy to do that. but until then there is no point talking about it.

as of right now, rana is the only allrounder we have who can both bat and bowl (slowly but surely aftab is becoming another). My experience says rana will not play the first 2 ODI. the selectors will wait for the pacers to fail miserably before picking him (how much knowledge it need to guess that they pacers will fail). and rana will then do good with both and ball. the interested part is, selectors will not learn a thing from there. during the next series, rana has to sit out again at first for someone to fail miserably before he gets a chance. this is happening ever since he started to play. this is an interesting puzzle that i can't solve.

feisal
June 12, 2005, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by AgentSmith

as of right now, rana is the only allrounder we have who can both bat and bowl (slowly but surely aftab is becoming another). My experience says rana will not play the first 2 ODI. the selectors will wait for the pacers to fail miserably before picking him (how much knowledge it need to guess that they pacers will fail). and rana will then do good with both and ball. the interested part is, selectors will not learn a thing from there. during the next series, rana has to sit out again at first for someone to fail miserably before he gets a chance. this is happening ever since he started to play. this is an interesting puzzle that i can't solve.

** Nin fact this is another misnomer u are creating, when was he dropped??? let us see his entire career.. he was picked in front OF ALOK KAPALI in the test matches against zimba in zimba..then he played with quite distinction in the one dayers.. same happened in windies..played in all the one dayers.. in the first match though neutral people mocked about his technique as he was sent in as an opener..remember that? then comes asia cup..he did play and did nothing as far as bowling is concerned.. but no special discredit as everyoen was miserable except one Ashraful innings, i JO innings and Razzak's bowling in the first match against pakistan.. Next is NZ series except Aftab's 5 wixckets and nazmul's bowling..there is nothing to talk about..then come india series.. have you seen him bowling in the test matches??? that was the only time he was dropped.. and lookslike for good reason.. he immediately came back with zimbabwe as we needed more sterngth in left arm spin.. even he was preferred to chacha in the last match.. but by that time he won two MOM too...

point is: it is not right as u claimed that he got dropped.. and thare is no puzzle so to speak.. his performance is another thing and obviously many times he sparked and performed well.. (though i am not sure about your claim of all rounder... that is a stretch) some people will rather argue other way round.. for wexample, in those zimba test, he replaced Kapali and was not good enough to bat at number 6.. Mushfique babu ( manypeople's favourite..) did so..

Spitfire_x86
June 12, 2005, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by howzatt!
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
Originally posted by howzatt!
Rana haters will be rana haters. Rana will continue to perform regardless. he is the only player capable of taking rafique's place once he retires. enamul is a better spinner, but not a perfect replacement for rafique.
Rana will be always useless in Test. You don't have to be a Rana hater to admit that
who was talking about tests?
Rana must be useful in Tests to be a a perfect replacement of Rafique.

Edited on, June 12, 2005, 10:49 PM GMT, by Spitfire_x86.

howzatt!
June 12, 2005, 05:58 PM
i didn't mention anywhere that he would be a perfect replacement in tests. he is an ODI player. i meant ODI, but u had to dig deep and find something to argue about just becasue i was saying something positive about rana. well, its nothing new. u argue with anyone who says anything positive about rana and negetive about bashar. moreover, u said he would be useless in ODI before the ODi series against zimbabwe, but he turned out to be one of the most valueable players. he could oneday become an useful test player too.

amim
June 12, 2005, 06:34 PM
I thought Rana is a better ODI player than Sujon. I doubt Sujon's chances of getting a genuine wicket against Aus vs England.

Rana is more than useful with the bat. So he is first choice. Sujon is my 2nd choice. I woul Rana first then Sujon if there is enough room in the team.

Rafique is always playing well against Australia and he is probably going to be more economical than anyone else.

I would have Mashrafe, Nazmul, Rafique, Rana and Aftab doing the bowling.

I know Aftab will get smashed all over the park but we can't afford another specialist bowling allrounder.

Ashraful playing well solves the problem with Rajin's inclusion.

So i would have Mashrafe, Nazmul, Rafique, Rana, Aftab and Khaled Mashud as the keeper.

And 5 specialist batsmen would be Javed Omar Belim Golla, Bashar, Ashraful, Tushar Imran and Nafis Iqbal.

I wouldn't drop Nafis because of Rajin. But if Nafis fails to perform in the first 2 ODI's then we might need to include Rajin.

Spitfire_x86
June 12, 2005, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by howzatt!
u argue with anyone who says anything positive about rana and negetive about bashar.
Yeah, I never tried to hide that I'm permanent member of Bashar fanclub and Rana hateclub :lol:

Anyway, if you like someone then you can always find points to defend him and if you don't like someone then you can always find points to criticize him :)

AsifTheManRahman
June 12, 2005, 07:15 PM
ei rana ke niye je ei bangla cricket forume koto kabbo koto itihash lekha howe gelo...:)

i think he should be an auto choice for the odi's. about the 3-pacer issue - as someone has already brought it up - i think chacha should be the third pacer. he has experience and the brain, and although has limitations, will be able to use apply experience to real game-time situations. i've had it with three quickies in the team - our pacers are simply not good enough to trouble sides like Aus and Eng. i want rana, chacha, rafique and two of tapash and masri. i wouldn't mind resting masri some time down the series - it won't be a bad idea since it's a long tour (compared to what we are used to play), and seating masri on the side bench for a couple of matches because of his failure won't mean that we are dropping him for the next series or something like that.

Piranha
June 12, 2005, 07:40 PM
Here we go again...Rana always manages to inspire a lot of heated discussion. Let us hope that he also inspires some heated match-winning cricket....

Samir
June 12, 2005, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
Originally posted by howzatt!
Rana haters will be rana haters. Rana will continue to perform regardless. he is the only player capable of taking rafique's place once he retires. enamul is a better spinner, but not a perfect replacement for rafique.
Rana will be always useless in Test. You don't have to be a Rana hater to admit that

yet he has better avg (25.00) than most of our players in test ...including pilot........

howzatt!
June 12, 2005, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
Originally posted by howzatt!
u argue with anyone who says anything positive about rana and negetive about bashar.
Yeah, I never tried to hide that I'm permanent member of Bashar fanclub and Rana hateclub :lol:

Anyway, if you like someone then you can always find points to defend him and if you don't like someone then you can always find points to criticize him :)

thats absolutely what i do. i'm not in anyone's fanclub or hateclub. i praise whoever performs well and criticize whoever fails consistently.

BanglaCool
June 13, 2005, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by BangladeshFan
once again rana showed he is an essential component to the ODI side, 7 ov 17 runs 1 wicket so far. he would be in my team infront of shujon anytime:up:

Edited on, June 12, 2005, 12:37 PM GMT, by BangladeshFan.
Agreed, only if you compare all-rounders. Unfortunately, there some advocating chacha's inclusion as a bowler only, supported by the three wickets he got against worcestershire. While I have no complains with the three wickets that he got, I would like to see some responsible batting from him, as he is known to produce long innings in English conditions.

fan_frm_the_uk
June 13, 2005, 03:41 AM
Freind na holeo jehetu Khulna te kheltam Rana ke chini onek aage thekei. Khub kach theke taar khela dekechi. Sotti bolte, kokono vabini je o national team a khelbe. Mone hoto or cheye valo player Khulna tei onek ache.
Ekon obak laage tik e, nirdidhai bote pari, je sref hard work kore o etodur eseche. O hocche se rokom player jara limitation ke come over kore prochondo rokom chesta diye. Ranar success er mul holo, or modde ekta tendency ache je sobsomoi valo korte hobe, run kore ki wicket niye. Nijei chesta kore nijer sera khela ta ber kore aante.
jara anti-RANA tader bolchi, amader onek player der cheye Ranar dharabahikota onek valo.

salin
June 13, 2005, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by AgentSmith
spitfire's argument that as long as we have to depend on players like rana there is not going to be much result is quite true but completely irrelevant. When time comes that we have good informed players to replace rana, I will be happy to do that. but until then there is no point talking about it.

as of right now, rana is the only allrounder we have who can both bat and bowl (slowly but surely aftab is becoming another). My experience says rana will not play the first 2 ODI. the selectors will wait for the pacers to fail miserably before picking him (how much knowledge it need to guess that they pacers will fail). and rana will then do good with both and ball. the interested part is,
selectors will not learn a thing from there. during the next series, rana has to sit out again at first for someone to fail miserably before he gets a chance. this is happening ever since he started to play. this is an interesting puzzle that i can't solve.

(how much knowledge it need to guess that they pacers will fail) .... Great Question :up::up::up:
this is an interesting puzzle that i can't solve.... Great argument:up::up::up:

Became your fan Agentsmith. Sweet Ragards.

Edited on, June 13, 2005, 9:03 AM GMT, by salin.

Rubu
June 13, 2005, 09:37 AM
No, man. we needs buddies here not fans. but i'm glad that u liked it.

Fazal
June 13, 2005, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by salin
Became your fan Agentsmith. <b>Sweet</b> Ragards.


Are we missing something or its just my hyper imaginary mind.
:D

Edited on, June 13, 2005, 2:48 PM GMT, by Fazal.

Rubu
June 13, 2005, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by feisal
** Nin fact this is another misnomer u are creating, when was he dropped??? let us see his entire career..

u gave me the idea. i summerized rana's career since his debut and during the time he was missed out, who was the possible reason. so, i put down the replacement's performance in those matches as well. As u can see, rana has been pretty consistant. he most of the time makes it up one way or another, rarely failed in both bat and ball.
http://img184.echo.cx/img184/4099/rana8tm.jpg

Edited on, June 13, 2005, 3:28 PM GMT, by AgentSmith.

chyicarus
June 13, 2005, 10:41 AM
Rana is a work horse and we need players like him for ODIs, who can constantly chip in with a couple of wicket and 20 odd runs. He also has a good average and has played almost every position.
He doesn't possess the talent level like other players but he can still prove to be valuable with his timely performances and help us avoid embaressing situations.
I also thought that this series, Enamul Jr. should've given a chance- since Rafique wasn't getting any bite in his bowling, and we need wicket taking bowlers, not just run stopping bowlers.

feisal
June 13, 2005, 11:51 AM
agent smith,
i never said he did not perform..imy point was he was not drooped many times as u refered in that post.. so, he is not that unlucky as he meant out to be..

thanks for creating that chart. how do u guess about rana's replacement?

for example, against asia cup against razzak's bowling was great.. but i see u have mushfiqur rahman as a replacement..

then again, with the zimbo win u relpaced mushfiqur rahman with khalid mahmud, where mushfique had terrific performance in that match...

in all 3 one dayers against india u have assumed someone or other as his replacement..while i appreciate the other information, but these substitution does not make any sense... in fact, his bowling in the test matches is responsible that he was not even in the squad... obviously, your chart will not contain that..

at any rate, looking at the score card does not tell everything...

and MOST importantly u do not have to convince me about his performance, i have been following bangladesh cricket since shamim kabir days and saw many many unimportant league matches from the 80s.. not to mention the big ones.. so i can safely conclude that i have the third person's perpspective and do not have anything for or aganist someone particular....

AND believe that class can be improved..

i will use a example here, probably astretch but please think about it.. one steve waugh was used as anightwatchman in 86-7 ashes...(at the WACA) only to come up with Bradmanesque average in the next ashes.. and he started his career as a BOWLING allrounder.. and see where he ends up.. point is rana should be an example to others.. but he should have the balance not to over hype and what is his limitation and what is not...

so, we should end the debate on this.. and let us hope that Rana proves to be a OUTSTANDING player for his country..

Rubu
June 13, 2005, 07:21 PM
feisal, u got me wrong bro. no, i was not trying to show u that he did perform by the chart. my main objective was to show the on and off patern of his playing ODI. about the replacement i labeled it as "possible replacement". there is no way to be certain, right? thats why "possible".

sure, at the bottom line, we all want not only him but also the whole team to perform.

feisal
June 14, 2005, 06:09 PM
agent smith,

i got it..

i like your nickname.. but where is that shark... that was better...
as i mentioned in other thread: i am for rana if it is betwen him and chacha..

also, forgot to appreciate rana's contribution in the last one day against zimba that innings really remains an enigma.... in fact, if u consider last 4/5 years..that is probably the highest score by a bangladeshi opener batting first (means not alosing cause..)..well even hannan scored afifty that day...if memory does not betray me..

esteban_loaiza
June 14, 2005, 06:18 PM
We should play two spinners.... historically Oval pitch always helped the spinners a little bit, moreover the two spinners bowled pretty well in the practice match

feisal
June 14, 2005, 06:36 PM
esteban-loaiza,

do u mean test matches?? Oval has always hosted the last test of the english season..

reyme
June 14, 2005, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by AgentSmith
I know spitfire, you are the 2nd best rana hatter here. but where did the 1st disappears suddenly? I mean Sham. I had some VERY "lively" discussion with him about rana.

hopefully rana will play in the odi and prove u guys wrong once again!

After having a long arguments with me on RANA, SHAM finally gave up and decided not to write anything on rana topic. Beamer still writes and spitfire would not give up ever.

At that point the issue was who was a better choice between rana and kapali. Kapali even with his apurba kopal and non stop support from his fans due to his "talented" label, kicked out of the team and failed to become the 6th position batsman for the team, which proved my prediction correct. My prediction was BD team needs Rana more than Kapali, and some so called talented players.

reyme
June 14, 2005, 08:04 PM
Rana will outperform Ashraful both in batting and bowling average in the ODI series. Too bad no one will give it an importance until after the series is over and stat will prove me correct one more time.

Beamer
June 14, 2005, 09:05 PM
reyme
Good to hear from you again. I have stopped writing and arguing about Rana. Regarding Chacha, I won't even argue, as it is pointless. I will be watching how these two "superstars" perform. In the meantime, I wish them luck, as we will need a lot of it..

Beamer
June 14, 2005, 09:16 PM
feisal
That Rana innings was away in Zimbabwe last year. We had a hundred opening partnership with Rana and Hannan. Both got fifties. Rana scored 60+actually . You mention that innings was an enigma. I say it was an anomaly.

Lonewolf_bd
June 14, 2005, 09:43 PM
Based on performance and statistics, there is no reason not to take Rana into the ODI team. He might not have the talent of an Ashraful or the class of a Sumon, but he more often than not delivers what is expected of him. In the final analysis, thats all that counts.

Rubu
June 14, 2005, 09:51 PM
Anomaly? could be, but then again the same has to be the innings in asia cup with ash, the innings in Namibia before zim tour to avoid some embarrassments and that unbeaten 33 against WI. forgot details of the innings in Namibia but it can sure be dug up if needed.

but i remember one thing. before u stopped arguing about rana u made a comment that rana is another mushfiqur in making. u asked to mark your words. as u can see, i did. i'm hoping to prove you wrong, in this vary series. even if he can't do it in this series, he will never end up like hannan mushfiqur or alok. u can mark my word in this! the reason is the fighting characteristic. rana will not give up, and so he will stay.

FaltuRidwanBhai
June 14, 2005, 10:14 PM
for some reason rana just seems different. he knows that he is not the favorite for some unfortunate reasons. and for some reasons it is hard for him to stay in the spotlight. so he knows that it is hard for him to stay in the team and he will work harder than anyone to stay in the team. and this way he will do better than anyone even though he might not be a stroke player like ashraful.

Sam
June 15, 2005, 08:26 AM
Everybody has his own perspective and it varies too much from person to person. If I ask, who the best cricketer of Bangladesh is, obviously there will be quite different answers.
Similarly, question about Rana is also subjected to these perspectives. But, if I ask one question, who is the 2nd best genuine spinner of Bangladesh after Rafiq with a better batting ability, I believe most of us will agree that it is Rana. That's why Rana cannot get chance in the Test any more ahead of Enam Jr., whereas in ODIs he is an automatic choice, if Team Management considers having two spinners in the team.

Beamer
June 15, 2005, 10:04 AM
AgentSmith
Wow! I must appreciate the level of support you have for your guy Rana. Thanks for rekindling my memory. I, indeed have made that comment earlier. You don't have to prove me wrong though . Playing well for Bangladesh is all that I/we care about. There is no personal grudge here against Rana. Please understand that. I am allowed to dislike someone ( as a cricketer ) just as you are entitled to your likings. I have been proved wrong before. Won't be surprised if that happens again!

Chacha is playing instead of Rana! I think Rana is the better of the two.