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CTazim
June 19, 2005, 06:40 PM
Excerpt from the report in "The Hindu" states that our bowlers are not even qualified to bowl to 10 year olds.

Here's the email to write your protest letters. As always be courteous.


thehindu@vsnl.com.

Niceman70
June 19, 2005, 07:15 PM
who the hell is that?

banindfan
June 19, 2005, 07:15 PM
Just ignore that report.EarlierThey had made a mockery of my Indian captain when he was running through his worst patch of form.I dont think you people should look up to a substandard article when a jealous reporter writes whatever has come to his mind.
When Sachin,Ganguly and Dravid have said Bangla are a very good team and also have praised the talented Ashraful ,you just can Ignore that Report

al Furqaan
June 19, 2005, 07:17 PM
just email them a scorecard of 2003 WC final.

the aussies mauled them for 350

then email them the scorecard to the match were we bowled em out for 214.

many indian journalists have the biggest chip on their shoulder

al Furqaan
June 19, 2005, 07:22 PM
banindfan is right

indianx
June 19, 2005, 07:31 PM
http://www.hindu.com/2005/06/19/stories/2005061913841700.htm

Guys, before you get angry, look at the author: Ted Corbett..

He is British and writes for an English newspaper, sometimes his reports are put in the Hindu news edition....

Faisal
June 19, 2005, 07:50 PM
who cares about hindu.com... even i wonder how many ppl read that newspaper, hahaha

Up_From_The_Underground
June 19, 2005, 08:19 PM
The writer (Ted Corbett) is a big Cry baby!!!! He needs to take sleeping pill because its going to happen more often now. ACCEPT IT. We are Tigers and we got sharp teeth to torn apart any cricket teams. We are going to play forever and soon or later the World CUP will be ours because we are positively influenced by 3 of our neighboring cricket champions (IND, PAK and SRI). So stop writing nonsese and see the Big Picutre.. Next time you write Keep this Title in your mind "Tiger is enjoying the Elite status like its three neighbors did- World Champion 2011"

Zunaid
June 19, 2005, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Faisal
who cares about hindu.com... even i wonder how many ppl read that newspaper, hahaha

the Hindu is actually a quite "respected" Indian newspaper of the Statesmen ilk. At the very least, some polite comments would make them aware - possibly, don't count on it... but never hurts

DJ Sahastra
June 19, 2005, 09:00 PM
"The Hindu" is quite respected in the southern part of India, especially Tamil Nadu.

As such, it is a blatantly leftist newspaper.

Not that i discount other Indian newspapers to be not biased but "The Hindu" is the epitome of irony and sarcasm in that while it's name is "The Hindu", it is the most "Anti-Hindu" newspaper that India has.

DotBall
June 19, 2005, 09:11 PM
Entire cricketing world is praising BD performance on June 18th 2005, even Ricky Ponting is saying that. Who give a care about some Hindu news or any of indian news paper. Enjoy the victory.

We are not here is shut everyones mouth rather we are here to play circket at the best level the world has ever seen; and along the if few people think we are not what we are then I can only say to them that they entitled to their la la land logic.

Let's win another game in this series.

cricketboy
June 19, 2005, 09:33 PM
As if India has Pacers who bowl at 150 kmh. These newspapers will never be fair to anyone. SHame on them. Let the reporter face Mashrafe. :mad:

Faisal
June 19, 2005, 09:42 PM
Who Cares about hindu newspaper??? ignore them simply:)

PoorFan
June 19, 2005, 09:52 PM
It doesn't even look like a decent front page article to me. Looks like they just pasted the writer's write from a text file, may be because he/they know that indian people like those kinds of writings. Why should we bother? just ignore it.

mwrkhan
June 19, 2005, 10:15 PM
I don't see what all the fuss is about. The offending line was rather funny in my opinion. It's just hyperbole. Nothing to get our knickers in a collective twist.

mwrkhan
June 19, 2005, 10:16 PM
BTW I had no idea the Hindu was a leftist newspaper. I was always under the impression that it was northern, right wing newspaper.

reverse_swing
June 19, 2005, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by mwrkhan
BTW I had no idea the Hindu was a leftist newspaper. I was always under the impression that it was northern, right wing newspaper.

LOL. Definitely you have no idea about Hindu. This is chennai based south indian newspaper.

m35helal
June 19, 2005, 11:27 PM
Guys...I know this news paper.....please don't pay too much attention to it...this news paper is always like this...

insideedge
June 19, 2005, 11:59 PM
This is the time to feel great. Why does one have to feel negative at any occasion. Just look at the news item closely and you will realise that it is written by a British writer, who is one of the many cricket columnists for The Hindu newspaper. The article as a whole is quite appreciative of Bangladeshi effort. The one line was obviously written in a light hearted manner.

I really wonder how one can read so much into it based on one line out of 40 lines in an article written by a British in an Indian newspaper. Why is it that no one has commented on the remaining lines on the article which are quite positive?

PoorFan
June 20, 2005, 12:32 AM
I really wonder how one can read so much into it based on one line out of 40 lines in an article written by a British in an Indian newspaper. Why is it that no one has commented on the remaining lines on the article which are quite positive?
Because that couple of lines was sooo unexpected and the rest were well expected. Anyway, we should not bother.

prasad
June 20, 2005, 01:00 AM
times of india,hindustan times and the hindu,three big and respected newspapers of india.u can belittle "the hindu " like that.

DJ Sahastra
June 20, 2005, 01:01 AM
InsideEdge,

Bangla fans are one of the most passionate that i have EVER seen and also the most touchy ones.

That 'most touchy' gets magnified many times over if the concerned report has any kind of 'India' connection :)

In past, i have spent quite some time writing letters to Rediff, ToI etc. in my limited effort to make them understand this to some extent. In case of "The Hindu", i wont even make that attempt - i dislike that newspaper in entirety.

AsifTheManRahman
June 20, 2005, 01:06 AM
yeah, let's have some DJ soup for dinner. :)

DJ Sahastra
June 20, 2005, 01:06 AM
times of india,hindustan times and the hindu,three big and respected newspapers of india.u can belittle "the hindu " like that.

It's actually Times Of India, Indian Express and The Hindustan Times.

"The Hindu" is more of a regional newspaper with a little more than regional reach.

As for belittling, "The Hindu" is a disgrace to what objective reporting should be all about.

alam7770
June 20, 2005, 01:26 AM
Let's concentrate on our team and our deserving victory and ignore what the world has to say. We have to focus on being positive about our team and pass on the collective positive vibe to our team....This will mean 150 million TIGERS playing against 11 of whoever our opponent is!!!! :flag:

CTazim
June 20, 2005, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by DJ Sahastra
InsideEdge,

Bangla fans are one of the most passionate that i have EVER seen and also the most touchy ones.

That 'most touchy' gets magnified many times over if the concerned report has any kind of 'India' connection :)

In past, i have spent quite some time writing letters to Rediff, ToI etc. in my limited effort to make them understand this to some extent. In case of "The Hindu", i wont even make that attempt - i dislike that newspaper in entirety.

D.J.

IMHO and I have not discussed it with anyone as it is my personal belief more than an official stance: What Banglacricket.com and its staff are to Bangladesh cricket is what NAACP is to the African American people. :)

Remember both have to fight bigotry constantly. I am pretty sure there will be "some" white person who would feel similarly about an NAACP member, labeling him "touchy" when he heard the white person make some insensitive and untrue remarks about African Americans, as you are finding the Bangladeshi fans to be "touchy" whenever "it comes to India". The only difference is our skin colors are pretty much the same and you have been playing test cricket since 1932 whereas we are since 2000. I hope "akkalmand kay leeye Isharai kafi hai" ;) [loose translation: for the wise a subtle hint is sufficient :) ]

The power of media is enormous. As a Tiger's fan, I find it incumbent upon me to review and protest cricino et al. exploiting that advantage or privilege and consistently ridiculing Bangladesh. :umm:

Edited on, June 20, 2005, 6:33 AM GMT, by CTazim.

Edited on, June 20, 2005, 6:35 AM GMT, by CTazim.

DJ Sahastra
June 20, 2005, 01:39 AM
"The only difference is our skin colors are pretty much the same and you have been playing test cricket since 1932 whereas we are since 2000."

CTazim,

The above statement, if true, actually means that BD has been playing cricket from 1932 onwards. Cos in 1932, if there was an Indian cricket team, then it represented either a) whatever is India, Pakistan and Bangladesh today or b) None of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Now, that was just on a side note.

mwrkhan
June 20, 2005, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by CTazim
What Banglacricket.com and its staff are to Bangladesh cricket is what NAACP is to the African American people.

Whoa!! That's rather heavy.

DJ Sahastra
June 20, 2005, 01:46 AM
Also, on a final note, yes YOU SHOULD protest anything that is worthy of a protest. And there is nothing wrong in your protest with Hindu, though i haven't read the article myself. Not yet and never will.

Btw, i stand by my statement on the BD fans.

prasad
June 20, 2005, 02:10 AM
come on,its sports reporting.u r not allowed to sit on the fence in these issues.entire indian press(dont know abt bd) is a replica of brit press."sensationalism" is the order of the day.its just playing to public.indians love reading aussie sorry stories in cricket.if the paper said bd bowlers cant bowl to a 10 yr old,its just that they r making a mockery out of aus batting lineup.sports is for entertainment.

CTazim
June 20, 2005, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by DJ Sahastra
"The only difference is our skin colors are pretty much the same and you have been playing test cricket since 1932 whereas we are since 2000."

CTazim,

The above statement, if true, actually means that BD has been playing cricket from 1932 onwards. Cos in 1932, if there was an Indian cricket team, then it represented either a) whatever is India, Pakistan and Bangladesh today or b) None of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Now, that was just on a side note.

Based on your argument, then Bangladesh should have had test status since 1971 by default :). After all we were part of India up until 1947 and part of Pakistan up until 1971: Both test playing nations during the time frame in question.

Cheers.

Azim

insideedge
June 20, 2005, 02:14 AM
DJ,
I know that Bangla fan are very touchy on issues which may be non- issue to other non- touchy people.

As far as Hindu newspaper is concerned, its sports coverage is perhaps the best among all national newspapers. It has a host of sports columns by well known sports writers and celebrities.( By sports, I mean cricket as well as other sports. It gives very good coverage to Chess, for example, whereas other national newspapers seem to omit it altogether).

Hindu group is also the publisher of the leading sports magazine of India viz. Sportstar. I suppose you have an issue with the editorial policy of this newspaper. Personally, I judge a newspaper by its sports page.:)

Fortuner
June 20, 2005, 03:58 AM
I 've seen that they do write such kinda things but they do write a lot for our team.

Let them go to hell. Anywaz, India media mostly criticizes Bangladeshi things be it in sports or be it on ny other things.

Guys, we gotta smack them through emails.

Edited on, June 20, 2005, 12:30 PM GMT, by Zunaid.

naheyan
June 20, 2005, 05:00 AM
PPL....we shudnt take the matter so lightly. They deserve some rough replies....
If I am not wrong the daily telegraph said Ashraful's Shejdah "CHEAP"....
by saying that they did not only humiliate Ashraful but also Bangladeshis and Muslims....
do smthn abt this

GuruTM
June 20, 2005, 05:26 AM
Hello fans i have already protested to the hindu report. Here is the email for you to read.

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Hello,

We are upset about the post on the hindu about Australia Bangladesh match.
What bothers us is the immaturity of the post. Saying things like "Bangladesh does
not have a bowler quick enough to rough up anyone over the age of 10, yet
found five bowlers too lively for the Aussie top order." and "....defeats by the no-hope
babes of Bangladesh....." are just offending. Australians played their best and we just
played better on that day. For your clear understanding we are posting you some memorable
scorecards from the past.

ODI # 1993
ICC World Cup, 2002/03, Final
Australia v India
New Wanderers Stadium, Johannesburg
23 March 2003 (50-over match)

Result: Australia won by 125 runs
Series: Australia wins the 2002/03 ICC World Cup

Toss: India
Umpires: SA Bucknor (WI) and DR Shepherd (Eng)
TV Umpire: RE Koertzen
Match Referee: RS Madugalle (SL)
Man of the Match: RT Ponting
Player of the Series: SR Tendulkar


Australia innings (50 overs maximum) R M B 4 6
+AC Gilchrist c Sehwag b Harbhajan Singh 57 66 48 8 1
ML Hayden c Dravid b Harbhajan Singh 37 93 54 5 0
*RT Ponting not out 140 138 121 4 8
DR Martyn not out 88 112 84 7 1
Extras (b 2, lb 12, w 16, nb 7) 37
Total (2 wickets, 50 overs, 205 mins) 359

DNB: DS Lehmann, MG Bevan, A Symonds, GB Hogg, AJ Bichel, B Lee,
GD McGrath.

FoW: 1-105 (Gilchrist, 13.6 ov), 2-125 (Hayden, 19.5 ov).

Bowling O M R W
Khan 7 0 67 0 (2nb, 6w)
Srinath 10 0 87 0 (3nb, 2w)
Nehra 10 0 57 0 (3w)
Harbhajan Singh 8 0 49 2
Sehwag 3 0 14 0
Tendulkar 3 0 20 0 (1w)
Mongia 7 0 39 0 (2nb)
Yuvraj Singh 2 0 12 0

India innings (target: 360 runs from 50 overs) R M B 4 6
SR Tendulkar c & b McGrath 4 2 5 1 0
V Sehwag run out (Lehmann) 82 107 81 10 3
*SC Ganguly c Lehmann b Lee 24 44 25 3 1
M Kaif c Gilchrist b McGrath 0 4 3 0 0
+R Dravid b Bichel 47 87 57 2 0
Yuvraj Singh c Lee b Hogg 24 48 34 1 0
D Mongia c Martyn b Symonds 12 18 11 2 0
Harbhajan Singh c McGrath b Symonds 7 12 8 0 0
Z Khan c Lehmann b McGrath 4 20 8 0 0
J Srinath b Lee 1 6 4 0 0
A Nehra not out 8 7 4 2 0
Extras (b 4, lb 4, w 9, nb 4) 21
Total (all out, 39.2 overs, 180 mins) 234

FoW: 1-4 (Tendulkar, 0.5 ov), 2-58 (Ganguly, 9.5 ov),
3-59 (Kaif, 10.3 ov), 4-147 (Sehwag, 23.5 ov),
5-187 (Dravid, 31.5 ov), 6-208 (Yuvraj Singh, 34.5 ov),
7-209 (Mongia, 35.2 ov), 8-223 (Harbhajan Singh, 37.1 ov),
9-226 (Srinath, 38.2 ov), 10-234 (Khan, 39.2 ov).

Bowling O M R W
McGrath 8.2 0 52 3
Lee 7 1 31 2 (4nb, 2w)
Hogg 10 0 61 1 (2w)
Lehmann 2 0 18 0
Bichel 10 0 57 1 (4w)
Symonds 2 0 7 2 (1w)


<a href="http://aus.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/WORLD_CUPS/WC2003/SCORECARDS/FINALS/AUS_IND_WC2003_ODI-FINAL_23MAR2003.html">score card at cricinfo </a>



And there is another scorecard:


ODI # 2201
India in Bangladesh, 2004-05, 2nd One-Day International
Bangladesh v India
Bangabandhu National Stadium, Dhaka (day/night)
26 December 2004 (50-over match)

Result: Bangladesh won by 15 runs
Series: 3-ODI series level 1-1

Toss: Bangladesh
Umpires: AFM Akhtaruddin and Aleem Dar (Pak)
TV Umpire: Nadir Shah
Match Referee: BC Broad (Eng)
Man of the Match: Mashrafe Mortaza


Bangladesh innings (50 overs maximum) R M B 4 6
Nafees Iqbal c Dhoni b Agarkar 9 33 22 1 0
Mohammad Rafique lbw b Khan 0 7 2 0 0
*Habibul Bashar b Agarkar 17 34 21 3 0
Mohammad Ashraful c & b Kartik 28 52 41 1 2
Aftab Ahmed b Kartik 67 124 98 5 1
Rajin Saleh run out (Yuvraj Singh) 0 10 10 0 0
+Khaled Mashud c Joginder Sharma b Sriram 20 34 24 2 0
Khaled Mahmud run out (Kaif/Dhoni) 17 50 38 2 0
Mashrafe Mortaza not out 31 44 39 3 1
Tapash Baisya b Khan 17 24 13 2 0
Nazmul Hossain not out 3 1 2 0 0
Extras (lb 4, w 6, nb 10) 20
Total (9 wickets, 50 overs, 211 mins) 229

FoW: 1-1 (Mohammad Rafique, 1.2 ov), 2-26 (Nafees Iqbal, 6.5 ov),
3-37 (Habibul Bashar, 8.4 ov), 4-81 (Mohammad Ashraful, 18.2 ov),
5-88 (Rajin Saleh, 20.5 ov), 6-132 (Khaled Mashud, 29.5 ov),
7-168 (Aftab Ahmed, 38.4 ov), 8-187 (Khaled Mahmud, 43.6 ov),
9-226 (Tapash Baisya, 49.4 ov).

Bowling O M R W
Agarkar 9 1 31 2 (1nb, 2w)
Khan 8 1 53 2 (1w)
Joginder Sharma 10 1 51 0 (3nb, 1w)
Kartik 10 0 43 2 (5nb)
Sriram 10 1 37 1 (1w)
Mongia 3 0 10 0 (1nb)

India innings (target: 230 runs from 50 overs) R M B 4 6
V Sehwag b Mashrafe Mortaza 0 3 3 0 0
*SC Ganguly c Mashrafe Mortaza b Khaled Mahmud 22 84 42 3 0
Yuvraj Singh c Rajin Saleh b Tapash Baisya 4 13 8 1 0
S Sriram st Khaled Mashud b Mohammad Rafique 57 114 91 7 0
M Kaif run out (Rajin Saleh) 49 105 56 5 0
D Mongia lbw b Tapash Baisya 12 21 18 0 0
+MS Dhoni c Habibul Bashar b Mashrafe Mortaza 12 16 11 2 0
AB Agarkar c Aftab Ahmed b Mohammad Rafique 9 18 15 1 0
Joginder Sharma not out 29 34 22 4 0
Z Khan c Mashrafe Mortaza b Khaled Mahmud 10 23 14 1 0
M Kartik run out (Aftab Ahmed) 3 11 6 0 0
Extras (lb 4, w 3) 7
Total (all out, 47.5 overs, 227 mins) 214

FoW: 1-0 (Sehwag, 0.3 ov), 2-5 (Yuvraj Singh, 3.2 ov),
3-51 (Ganguly, 17.1 ov), 4-114 (Sriram, 28.5 ov),
5-131 (Mongia, 33.2 ov), 6-155 (Dhoni, 37.2 ov),
7-170 (Kaif, 40.1 ov), 8-172 (Agarkar, 40.5 ov),
9-204 (Khan, 45.6 ov), 10-214 (Kartik, 47.5 ov).

Bowling O M R W
Mashrafe Mortaza 9 2 36 2 (1w)
Tapash Baisya 10 2 35 2
Nazmul Hossain 7 0 26 0
Khaled Mahmud 9.5 0 40 2 (1w)
Mohammad Rafique 10 0 57 2 (1w)
Aftab Ahmed 2 0 16 0

<a href="http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/IND_IN_BDESH/SCORECARDS/IND_BDESH_ODI2_26DEC2004.html">cricinfo scorecard</a>

We hope you understand what we want to say. Thank you.

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Fans we need to protest this kind of yellow journalism.
What do they think of themselves. Give me feedback.

Edited on, June 20, 2005, 2:47 PM GMT, by Zunaid.
Reason: put long url inside hyperlink

Edited on, June 20, 2005, 2:51 PM GMT, by Zunaid.
Reason: same again

PoorFan
June 20, 2005, 06:06 AM
...If I am not wrong the daily telegraph said Ashraful's Shejdah "CHEAP"....
by saying that they did not only humiliate Ashraful but also Bangladeshis and Muslims....
How do you know that was a "Shejdah"? All foreign newspaper/article says he "kissed the pitch".

ekatturerBangalee
June 20, 2005, 09:46 AM
All eyes are now on tomorrow's match with England. It would be interesting to see the reaction from "The Hindu", if we do well.

Maybe, it was my fault to quote and post the message for "The Hindu".

For the time being, this is a dead issue. We beat the bush enough :lol:

Zunaid
June 20, 2005, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by ekatturerBangalee
We beat the bush enough :lol:

not enough - he got elected for the second time ;)

sorry, could not resist.

Now back on topic: it'll all stop when we start performing consistently...

ZunaidH
June 20, 2005, 09:56 AM
I say, tomorrow when we teach the English lads a lesson, the Hindu will shut up. No worries. I also say, DJ is right that we are a touchy, emotional bunch. That's ok though. We just carry a legacy. I don't see any harm.

indianx
June 20, 2005, 01:57 PM
If anything, it's Ted Corbett to whom you need to send the mails not The Hindu, they have a contract with him, meaning he writes a column for them, so they are obligated to print what he writes. Too much unnecessary anger towards the Indians, if you beat the English tomorrow and hopefully Bangladesh will win, then you will show the British press.

DJ Sahastra
June 20, 2005, 02:32 PM
IndianX,

If you haven't realised that as yet, then there isn't half as much delight in hitting back at the likes of Ted Corbett as to snubbing the few and dwindling number of Indian supporters left (And now i know why) by showing them the scoresheet of India's embarassing losses or moments of anguish.

Look at the poster who is teh "Taem Manager" and whose reposte to teh article which has seemingly nothing to do with India, is an attempt at embarassing the Indians with the world-cup final defeat of India and a BD win over India.

When someone mentions how badly India lost to Australia in th world cup finals, he doesn't even realize a salient point - That India did reach the finals as a worthy challenger to the crown.

Sadly enough, it is getting increasingly difficult to stay an Indian supporter of the BD team. Not that they need one anyways.

Ibrahim
June 20, 2005, 02:37 PM
What is this heck? What that Hindu......is it Danguli

Zobair
June 20, 2005, 02:44 PM
this thread is going the way of the dodo. I am making sure of this.


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