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ekatturerBangalee
August 20, 2005, 04:54 PM
This is absolutely shocking. I know many members still have a hard time to accept the grave situation in our beloved country. Are we heading towards a 'religious' civil war?:mad:

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"..The Daily Star investigation spread over several months has found over 30 religious militant organisations have set up their network across the country since 1989 with the central objective of establishing an Islamic state. Many of them have given armed training to their members to conduct jihad..."

"..These militant organisations are Harkatul Jihad, Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB), Jagrata Muslim Janata, Bangladesh (JMJB), Islami Biplobi Parishad, Shahadat Al Hiqma, Hizbut Towhid, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, Ahle Hadith Andolon, Towhidi Janata, Bishwa Islami Front, Juma'atul Sadat, Al Jomiatul Islamia, Iqra Islami Jote, Allahr Dal, Al Khidmat Bahini, Al Mujhid, Jama'ati Yahia Al Turag, Jihadi Party, Al Harkat al Islamia, Al Mahfuz Al Islami, Jama'atul Faladia, Shahadat-e-Nabuwat, Joish-e-Mostafa, Tahfize Haramaine Parishad, Hizbul Mojahedeen, Duranta Kafela and Muslim Guerrilla..."

"..The militant members come from a varied spectrum -- several teachers of Dhaka University, Rajshahi University, Chittagong University, Bangladesh University of Engineering and Technology (Buet), Kushtia Islamic University, North South University, and Victoria University are involved with these militant groups, mainly looking after finances, public relations, and foreign connections..."

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/08/21/d5082101044.htm

ekatturerBangalee
August 20, 2005, 05:02 PM
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ekatturerBangalee
August 20, 2005, 05:02 PM
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ekatturerBangalee
August 20, 2005, 05:04 PM
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ekatturerBangalee
August 20, 2005, 05:06 PM
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ekatturerBangalee
August 20, 2005, 05:12 PM
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TheWatcher
August 20, 2005, 05:30 PM
Well, militant political groups in Bangladesh are as old as the country herself, so I can't find anything shocking there. People getting trained in Libya and Afghanistan and coming back to join deviant groups like Freedom party is also no new news. But, yes it is very disturbing that the new wave of militias are manipulating people's religious zeal. Also the new groups are lot more dangerous because they don't have to care about maintaining good public images to win seats in the Parliament.

Edited on, August 20, 2005, 10:32 PM GMT, by TheWatcher.

ekatturerBangalee
August 20, 2005, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by TheWatcher
Well, militant political groups in Bangladesh are as old as the country herself, so I can't find anything shocking there. People getting trained in Libya and Afghanistan and coming back to join deviant groups like Freedom party is also no new news.
Edited on, August 20, 2005, 10:32 PM GMT, by TheWatcher.
Well, National and International media have been reporting over the last 4 years that Bangladesh is becoming 'a cocoon or hub of Islamic terrorist [refer: Far Eastern Economic Review 2002, Asia Times, 2003, NY Times 2005]. Unfortunately, the BNP government, a coalition government of Islamist parties and their apologists including the former U. S. Ambassador to Bangladesh, Mary Ann Peters, have been flatly denying the existence of such terrorist groups in Bangladesh although nearly 801 persons have been killed extra-judiciously till last May either by bomb blasts or by government security forces.

Dawah
August 20, 2005, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by TheWatcher
Well, militant political groups in Bangladesh are as old as the country herself, so I can't find anything shocking there. People getting trained in Libya and Afghanistan and coming back to join deviant groups like Freedom party is also no new news. But, yes it is very disturbing that the new wave of militias are manipulating people's religious zeal. Also the new groups are lot more dangerous because they don't have to care about maintaining good public images to win seats in the Parliament.

Edited on, August 20, 2005, 10:32 PM GMT, by TheWatcher.

So what do your leaders of Jamaiti Islam and ISNA (Jamaiti-Islami western wing) has to say about this? Do you still think they are doing great job as you told me before?

howzatt!
August 20, 2005, 09:49 PM
this issue is getting serious. unless govt. does something soon, a civil war may be unavoidable. it may not happen in next few years, but matters will get worse with each passing day. what terrifies me is that in the midst of this chaotic situation in BD, BNP and AL are blaming each other. AL is blaming BNP for not taking action againt the militants, and w/o lending a helping hand, they are calling for hartals, and asking govt. to resign. i agree with AL that BNP should've taken this issue seriously earlier and shuld've done a neutral investigation of the incident of 21st august, 2004. but i don't like what they are doing to protest that. BNP on the other hand is blaming AL that they are taking advantage of these incidents by asking BNP to step down for their failure to stop such attacks. BNP has a point there, but that shouldn't keep them from probing the bombings in BD in recent years. i fear that while BNP and AL blame each other for their own political interests, these militant groups will grow stronger and stronger.

rafiq
August 20, 2005, 10:28 PM
ekaturer: curious about the exact 801 count you just gave - not becase i doubt it but these numbers are hard to know for sure. the source of this data would be good to know.

ekatturerBangalee
August 21, 2005, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by rafiq
ekaturer: curious about the exact 801 count you just gave - not becase i doubt it but these numbers are hard to know for sure. the source of this data would be good to know.

"...The present government has miserably failed in ensuring security and protection to its nationals and also to visitors. I am one of the victims of such lawlessness. I was ready to visit Bangladesh to present a paper at an International Conference in its capital Dhaka in the 1st week of January 2005. But repeated death and bomb threats did not allow me to participate. We had to take those threats seriously as a total of 801 persons have been killed and 4,613 have been wounded in Bangladesh in recent years; either by bomb blasts or by torture .

Most unfortunate, since the new government of Khaleda Zia assumed power none of the cases has been investigated properly. Only one bomb blast that killed 10 people and wounded 150 at a cultural event was investigated by the previous government and 7 people were charge sheeted. However, to our dismay, the present government dropped those charges and allowed all the perpetrators to go free. In addition, all pending investigation cases have been dropped. Under the present government, 66% were killed through extra judicial process and 80% were injured or maimed through torture by the government agencies such as RAB, Police, or/and Para military forces. The government falsely claimed that 57 people ages 22 to 57, died of 'heart attack' under its custody [most of whom had no prior heart problem] and 329 were killed by RAB, a special police battalion in 'crossfire'. In spite of so many extra judicial killings, in 2004, murder has increased in Bangladesh by 98%, acid throwing by 68% and rape by 42%. Many young girls were raped as they belonged to Opposition Parties or Minority communities. During the last 4 years there have been a total of 44 bomb blasts and grenade attacks mostly directed against Opposition Party Rallies; 17 against political rallies, 13 against Cultural events/Cinema halls, 6 against religious institutions, and 2 each against NGOs and press offices. Nearly 112 journalists and reporters have been attacked, more than 4 killed. Immediately after the takeover by Zia government in October 2001, it let loose a massacre against minority community mostly Hindus and against the main opposition party, the Awami League (AL). When intellectuals, columnists and political leaders started raising voice against such killings and cleansing, many were attacked and killed..."

http://www.drishtipat.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=198

Banglatiger84
August 21, 2005, 06:20 AM
"Immediately after the takeover by Zia government in October 2001, it let loose a massacre against minority community mostly Hindus and against the main opposition party, the Awami League (AL)."

This stamement seems to have come straight out of a communist proaganda booklet
Even staunch Awami Leaguers know how preposterous this statement is.

I can improve on that The BNP are just murderers and the AL is Bangladesh's savior. BNP has commited genocide against Hindus while under AL, Bangladesh was on way to becoming a first world country.

Majority of minority community members have been eradicated under the BNP.

AL government tolerated dissent and practised true democracy . Under the BNP, we are a mere dictatorship.

Any Bangladeshi who doesnt support Hasina is a traitor and against liberation.

Feel better?


Neither the BNP nor the AL are angels. They both are perfectly willing to murder each other, and play a perpetual blame game., while our country's image goes to the dogs.

ekatturerBangalee
August 21, 2005, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by Banglatiger84
"Immediately after the takeover by Zia government in October 2001, it let loose a massacre against minority community mostly Hindus and against the main opposition party, the Awami League (AL)."

This stamement seems to have come straight out of a communist proaganda booklet
Even staunch Awami Leaguers know how preposterous this statement is. [/quote]

I am clueless on your reaction here. I am merely a messanger posting the source following a request from member Rafiq. Your outburst should be sent to Drishtipat.org

I can improve on that The BNP are just murderers and the AL is Bangladesh's savior. BNP has commited genocide against Hindus while under AL, Bangladesh was on way to becoming a first world country. Majority of minority community members have been eradicated under the BNP. AL government tolerated dissent and practised true democracy . Under the BNP, we are a mere dictatorship. Any Bangladeshi who doesnt support Hasina is a traitor and against liberation.
Feel better?

Yawn...

[qoute]Neither the BNP nor the AL are angels. They both are perfectly willing to murder each other, and play a perpetual blame game., while our country's image goes to the dogs. [/quote]

Aha... no hesitation on blaming the country going to dogs due to AL and BNP politics; however, carefully you took out the names of Jamatis and murderous goons of the religious fanatics.....:down:

Edited on, August 21, 2005, 11:56 AM GMT, by ekatturerBangalee.

Banglatiger84
August 21, 2005, 08:11 AM
the country is going to dogs due to BNP, AL, JI, Bangla Bhai, Communist parties, JP, and pretty much every party which has tasted power either directly or through a coalition,

For that matter, I am no JI fan, however, JI has denied any involvement with the JM group, just as AL has denied its role. Why should any of these denials be more trustworthy than the other?

I never attacked or critisized you in my post. My comments were aimed at the blatantly partisan content of the webage that you posted.

For that matter, majority of Bangladesh's public opinion is for extra judicial measures against known criminals. I never heard Drishtipath complaining when innocent civilians are burned or bombed by AL hartal enforcers nor when criminals were terrorising Bangladeshi citizens.

ekatturerBangalee
August 21, 2005, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Banglatiger84
. I never heard Drishtipath complaining when innocent civilians are burned or bombed by AL hartal enforcers nor when criminals were terrorising Bangladeshi citizens.


Before I respond to you on Drishtipat, I would like to apologize to the moderators and members of this forum for this lengthy post. If you have further questions on Dristipat, please correspond with them. This thread is not on Drishtipat. However, just like Banglacricket.com., a generation of young but courageous Bangladeshis started Drishtipat to raise awareness among us. I salute and commend on their efforts. If you want to debate constructively, then debate.

Here is the URL of various Drishtipat projects:

http://www.drishtipat.org/modules.php?name=projects

http://drishtipat.org/past/tipu/images/savetipu.jpg

In early 2001, we successfully publicized and raised over $16,000 for the medical treatment of journalist Tipu Sultan. Sultan was investigating Feni AWAMI LEAGUE crime boss and ex-Member of Parliament, Joynal Hazari, and was almost killed by Hazari’s paid thugs.

http://drishtipat.org/inspiration/images/2_RIBChildhoodEdCenter.JPG

From March 26th, 2005, Drishtipat started a new section on its website called "Tales of inspiration from Bangladesh". We are featuring stories from rural areas of Bangladesh of real people.

http://www.drishtipat.org/stopviolence/image/index/02.gif

Uttorshuri, an internet forum for Bangla speaking from all over the world with technical help from Human rights organization, along with Drishtipat, has taken the initiative of this website as a mean of a constructive protest and to fulfill the need for documenting important historical events pertaining to Bangladesh .

http://www.drishtipat.org/images/Garments_disaster/Grief/thumbnails/jan16-bangladesh-factor-2217.jpg

On April 11th, 2005, the 9 storied Garments Factory in Palashbari, Savar collapsed killing more than 70 people and injuring many more.

http://www.drishtipat.org/1971/american/03.jpg

Drishtipat, with the help of Ain O Shalish Kendro, has identified seven such women who made supreme sacrifices in the war of liberation of Bangladesh, but are in desperate need of financial assistance to live their lives with dignity. It is bad enough that they never got justice for the barbaric crime against them. But it is unacceptable to any conscientious human being to see them lead a life of indignity and extreme poverty.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39720000/jpg/_39720397_rolanone.jpg

Drishtipat is helping Naeem Mohaiemen to screen his documentary Muslims or Heretics to raise awareness for the rights of the minority Ahmadiyya community.

http://www.drishtipat.org/past/arsenic/arsenic1.gif
In September 2002, Drishtipat completed its third fundraiser for the Arsenic victims in West Shapania village. The fund collected has been a little more than what we targeted. Our original target was $3500 and we collected $3850. The collected money will be channeled to Brotee via Bangladesh Environment Network. Brotee already started mobilizing the village people to form Gono Gobeshona Dal.

http://www.drishtipat.org/past/cheyedekho/images/AnnadaPrashad.jpg

The village Annada Prashad in the district of Bhola, Bangladesh, predominated by the Hindu community, saw unprecedented violence upon them immediately preceding and after the general election of 2001. Almost two hundred women were raped and hundreds of families were rendered homeless.

http://www.drishtipat.org/appeal/images/Shafiul-Haque-Mithu-sml.jpg

In December 2003, after getting viciously beaten by the ruling class, the case of Mithu is a repeat affair of Tipu Sultan from three years ago. He was left for dead. His right hand had been crushed and he has neurological problems from having been beaten on the back of his head with a chaapaati. The attack was seen as a reprisal for his reporting on the local MPs' attoricities on the local people.

http://www.southasianfloods.org/graphic/gallery/bang/bang_1.gif

September 2004: Drishtipat helped SpandaanB and Volunteers Association of Bangladesh to collect funds for the flood victims.

http://www.drishtipat.org/cover/women.jpg

Recent breakdown of law and order in Bangladesh has resulted in an alarming rise of horrifying violence against women.We, like all other fellow Bangladeshis, are deeply saddened to learn about the conditions of some Bangladeshi migrant workers in Saudi Arabia. We came to know about their conditions in several internet discussion groups and are calling for the authorities to take swift measures.

Edited on, August 21, 2005, 6:28 PM GMT, by ekatturerBangalee.

TheWatcher
August 21, 2005, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by dawah.tabligh
ISNA (Jamaiti-Islami western wing) has to say about this?
My apology to others, I just can't help myself but responding to DT's another ignorant post. If you look at ISNA's Board of Directors, (http://www.isna.net/about/board.html) it is apparent that this is a diverse group of Middle-eastern, American, and Subcontinental people. I never heard of this organization having any exclusive relation with any subcontinental group. Matter of fact, I heard ISNA is very much disliked by subcontinental groups like Jamat-e-Islami, Ahle Sunnah, and Jamat-e-Tabligh who created their own organization ICNA (Islamic Circle of North America).

The purpose of my earlier post was DON'T BE ONE EYED TO ISLAMIC MILITANTS. Both of the mainstream parties are now playing the blame game, apparently their intention is nothing more than using the issue to win public favor while their own militant groups will be keep destroying our education system and economic sectors. This is the time to make a strong united stand against all kind of political/religious extremisms. Remind you, country's neglegence to Sarbohara's terrorism boosted the strength of Bangla Bhai and his radical party .

And DT, you better warn your own group members of intrusion of extremists among them from other groups.

Edited on, August 21, 2005, 8:31 PM GMT, by TheWatcher.

ekatturerBangalee
August 21, 2005, 08:54 PM
Another thought provoking post on The Daily Star. More on Middle Eastern funding on fanatics and extremists imbued with the ideals of armed Islamic revolution in Bangladesh- Daily Star.

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"...From outward appearance they were doing social works as welfare organisations, building mosques and setting up madrasas for the underprivileged children, many of whom are orphans.
Then they started investing in businesses in such sectors as transport, pharmaceuticals, financial institutions, real estate, media and education.
But behind the humanitarian and business façade, they were organising terrorists imbued with the ideals of armed Islamic revolution. Funding was no problem for them -- shady funders in Kuwait, the UAE, Bahrain, Libya, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia extended their hands, filling the pockets of the militant organisations..."

"...A study by the Human Development Research Centre (HDRC) has affirmed that these organisations, once dependent on foreign funding, are now big enough to gather funds internally through various businesses. According to the HDRC, these organisations earn about Tk 1,200 crore a year from their business investment. These militants have invested in a large number of shrimp farms, using fake names and a good number of cold storages in the south-western region, according to Khulna police..."

"...Saudi-based NGO Al Haramaine Islamic Institute is one such organisation that brought in Tk 20 crore through the NGO Affairs Bureau from 1997 to 2001, its annual report of 2002 said. It was finally banned in September 2002 after the UN listed it as a terror cell. Haramaine had Tk 19 crore more in the pipeline to be spent on Islamic education in 38 districts. The police arrested seven foreign citizens of Al Haramaine in September 2002 and later, under a special arrangement with a Middle Eastern country, they were taken to a five-star hotel right from the Dhaka Judge's Court and then put on a flight under strict secrecy. .."

"...Militants received funds for madrasas from UAE-based welfare organisations Al Fuzaira and Khairul Ansar Al Khairia, Kuwait-based Doulatul Kuwait and Revival of Islamic Heritage Society and Bahrain-based Doulatul Bahrain, said intelligence sources. The HDRC study said the JMJB, under a programme called 'Operation Research', received funds from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the Muslim World League..."

"...Laden's close associate Enam Arnot and his organisation Benevolence International Organisation, which was registered with the NGO Bureau, had bank accounts in Bangladesh. A UN report said he was a top fundraiser for Laden.

Pakistani citizen Mohammad Sajid, who was arrested for attacking poet Shamsur Rahman on January 18, 1999, told police that he received Tk 2 crore and gave it to someone called Bakhtiar. Bakhtiar, when arrested in Sirajganj the same year, confessed to police that he distributed the money among 421 madrasas for training activists of Harkatul Jihad (Huji).

Both the militants said Laden had sponsored them to develop madrasa infrastructure..."


http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/08/22/d5082201044.htm

rafiq
August 21, 2005, 11:15 PM
EkaturerBangalee: the numbers you gave apparently came from a lecture by james littefield at MIT. Littelfield is married to the late SAMS Kibria's daughter, Dr. Nazli Kibria. The report appeared as a news story on the Drishtipat website, quoting Littlefield - DP did not claim otherwise.

Littlefield's sources for the data are unknown to me, but we seem to have been pulled into a Drishtipat tangent by our good friend banglatiger84. You could have read that news report on a RIHS newsletter or JMB website or by attending a Harkatul Jihad bake sale for that matter.

While organizations like Drishtipat go around doing their noble "this" and their idealitic "that", the forces of the orthodox right tighten their grip on Bangladesh. While Drishtipat struggles to find 75 NRB's awake enough to come view a movie on 71 so a few aged women warriors may get a couple thousand bucks each or donate $5 for disabled garment factory workers, the good professor Ahsanullah Galib claims to receive Tk 27 crore each year from his Middle Eastern masters to spread their interpretation of God's word. While groups like Drishtipat tries their little hearts out to fight for this, that and the other human rights violation, occasionally scoring a victory in court or in the media, crazed fanatics take to the streets in increasingly large numbers, being able to determine who is Muslim and whose mosque should now only be a temple.

The blind hatred along the AL-BNP divide has rendered us all incapable of logic, independent thought and being able to recognize a problem staring us in the face. I guess I could go on forever, and there was a point to this post somewhere but now I don't care enough about it anymore.

Sad as it is, the efforts of a Drishtipat or an EkaturerBangalee sometimes feels drops in an ocean. And yeah the ripple that each drop is supposed to make is poetic and should be inspiring, but sometimes, when all alone in the middle of the night, you just can't help but laugh and cry at the same time at the hopelessness of it all.

PoorFan
August 22, 2005, 04:25 AM
Perhaps the silence of our members on this thread shows how deep in trouble we are. Looks like we lost our imagination, interest or hope after being watching repeated failure from our government, rather increasing threat on "this" matter day by day. Vast majority of people has been totally cut off from current politics for a long time, so our voices has yet to be heard or reflect hardly any impact on our country's policies and our benefit. The people those who are on the street in name of politics or religion has never ever represent us ( vast majority of people ) except the time of our independence, 1971. Since after independence, we lost our rights and voices, but seems like we are still remaining unable to get it back, but only to see it taken away permanently. We ( vast majority of people ) all know about the pathetic standard of politics of AL, BNP, JP and co., and also know the fanatic ideology of JI, IIJ, JBM and co., but making their way by keeping silence and political inactivity. For example, couple of Galib and Bangla bhai can organize a fanatic group of people through our country wide, but we have none who really speak for us or represent us except that AL, BNP crap. Those people are marching on the street questioning our constitution and our fundamental rights, but we are unable to march toward AL, BNP head office or surround them demanding working together for our rights and security. As the same way we are also unable to surround JI or IIJ office demanding their responsibility and commitment to our constitution and security. In that sense, we may need hundreds of thousands of "passionate whiteguy" in this regard.

One of the reason we ( vast majority of people ) lost our powers, is because of our inactivnes in politics and because of our foolish mindset. For example, some people still believe seriously that we need student politics, whereas we lost the control and power of student politics, couple of decades ago ( to the political party ).

Now the a big question is, how this vast majority of people can properly and meaningfully get active with politics. We should find the way sooner than later.

Dream theater
August 22, 2005, 12:01 PM
Ekatturer banglai r u going to provide any background on more than 800 deaths you mentioned. The source should be a neutral one. Not any Indian source or any source writing with a vendetta against Bangladesh.

ekatturerBangalee
August 22, 2005, 12:46 PM
You hit the nail, PoorFan. I appreciate the truths in your post. More than anything I appreciate the courage required to take an unpopular stand. But, then again, this is our country. Bombing all over Bangladesh should be a red flag. We are in trouble and the danger the country facing is obvious- you cannot give it up to the religious fanatics. It’s a tendency to treat all the “ill issues” along the political party lines and spun. Our younger generation must face the consequences. When will we stand up and demand accountability? The biggest threat posed to our culture and society by religious fanatics of all stripes is their inability to doubt or question dogma that is clearly immoral in today’s world.

Spitfire_x86
August 22, 2005, 01:27 PM
Religious fanatics are higher in number not without reasons. And generally (when they are not bombing places) they have more acceptance among general public than dristipat folks.

ekatturerBangalee
August 22, 2005, 02:48 PM
http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/08/23/d5082301033.htm

"...Initially confined to blaming Awami League for the August 17 blasts, the government has finally identified Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) leader Abdur Rahman as a top threat to the country and ordered the law enforcers to arrest him "at any cost"...."

"...State Minister for Home Lutfozzaman Babar at a meeting with different law enforcement agencies Sunday asked them to arrest Abdur Rahman "at any cost". He also asked the agencies to compile the last two years' newspaper reports and interviews of the JMB leaders. The source quoting Babar said, "The bomb attack is just a phase in their [JMB's] gradual development as a militant organisation. They have demonstrated their capabilities. Their political interest or agenda hardly matters to us. What really matters to us is to know where they are going to hit next. May be they have plans to kill some political leaders."......"

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akabir77
August 22, 2005, 03:01 PM
so whats the solution? I think BNP is/was better option then AL? SO what do u think we the voters should do? All party's r SHAITAN so people elcted the less SHAITAN they thought at that time. And i belive they havn't done anything significant yet to think other wise...

They r trying to resolve this let them do it. if they don't people can vote the other party like they did last time. Why do we have to rush every thing??? When is this gonna stop?

Spitfire_x86
August 22, 2005, 03:17 PM
Regardless who comes to power, nobody would dare to eliminate these "jihadis", because if they touch those "jihadis'" hair then they will get labled as "anti-islamic" government. And it's needless to say that general people doesn't want to see an "anti-islamic" government.

BNP needs "dari-tupi votes" (according to an Islami oikkojot member) to stay in power, and AL doesn't want to reduce their sit count to single digit.

Dream theater
August 22, 2005, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by ekatturerBangalee
This is absolutely shocking. I know many members still have a hard time to accept the grave situation in our beloved country. Are we heading towards a 'religious' civil war?:mad:


The talk of civil war in Bangladesh is nothing but illmotivated and can not be further from the reality.

First of all, what do you think drives a country towards a civil war. We dont even have a idealogical difference in our country. most people are moderate Muslims and our country thrive on that. If bangladesh is on the verge of "civil war" would you say India( with 6/7 states fighting for separation), Pakistan ( active fundamentalists) are also fightting civil war. I bet Indian and pakistani government would disagree.

If you are the kind patriot you would like people to believe then try to take a stance like most people are doing. Dont try to ruin your countries image by smear campaign.

ekatturerBangalee
August 22, 2005, 03:33 PM
http://www.ajkerkagoj.com/2005/Aug22/images/05.jpg

"...Army intelligence nab ex-DG of Islamic Foundation at ZIA. JMB threatens direct action against Govt..."

http://www.bangladeshobserveronline.com/new/2005/08/23/front.htm

mwrkhan
August 22, 2005, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Dream theater
.........If you are the kind patriot you would like people to believe then try to take a stance like most people are doing. Dont try to ruin your countries image by smear campaign.

If we are Bangladeshis then we should confine ourselves to events in BD, as we are neither Indians nor Pakistanis we can't be bothered by what their governments do or don't do.

I agree that image is important but being willfully oblivious to what is going on will do nothing for our country's image in the long run. For once, let's stop being in denial.

Exposing the cancer of militant Islamic fundamentalism that has reared it's head (but perhaps has not taken root just yet) in BD is as good a stance as any self respecting Bangladeshi can take. This hardly amounts to a "smear" campaign.

And please, no homilies on patriotism.

ekatturerBangalee
August 22, 2005, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Dream theater
If you are the kind patriot you would like people to believe then try to take a stance like most people are doing. Dont try to ruin your countries image by smear campaign.

Dream theater, I am not running any campaign and no need to have any theatrical comments here. Just look around. All the journalists are now awake and Bangladeshi Newspapers are buzzing with 'REAL INFORMATION".

I just visited your website (bdsdf.com) and surprised to see so many posts on India bashing (p.s. I don't care for India but my country) and even folks at bdsdf.com are going ga-ga over the comments of Nizami:

"...Matiur Rahman Nizami, Ameer of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh, a partner of the alliance government, at a press conference on Saturday blamed two foreign intelligence agencies – Israeli Mosad and Indian RAW – for serial bomb attacks of August 17..."

If that is not smear campaign, I don't know what it is.


Govt embarrassed at Nizami''s comment:
http://www.newstoday-bd.com/frontpage.asp?newsdate=8/23/2005#5977


Edited on, August 22, 2005, 9:30 PM GMT, by ekatturerBangalee.

VladMamu
August 22, 2005, 04:30 PM
[i]As the same way we are also unable to surround JI or IIJ office demanding their responsibility and commitment to our constitution and security. In that sense, we may need hundreds of thousands of "passionate whiteguy" in this regard.

One of the reason we ( vast majority of people ) lost our powers, is because of our inactivnes in politics and because of our foolish mindset. For example, some people still believe seriously that we need student politics, whereas we lost the control and power of student politics, couple of decades ago ( to the political party ).

Now the a big question is, how this vast majority of people can properly and meaningfully get active with politics. We should find the way sooner than later.

I still think that what appears to be a simplistic idea of creating a law to mandate that every Bengali MUST attend school to grade 8 would change everything.

If any expats ever organize 1000's of you to go to Bangladesh to protest and spread the idea, I'll be sure to be on a plane with you. Maybe they will listen to a white guy. Maybe, they will stone him.
After university I plan to start an organization for promoting mandatory secualr education in every Nation in the world. I see this as the answer to the end of violence. Perhaps some of you will want to join.

I'm off to the Ferries for my honemoon. I am not allowed near a computer. :( So you are rid of me with these post.

Ahoj = Bye in Czech!

Fazal
August 22, 2005, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Dream theater
If you are the kind patriot you would like people to believe then try to take a stance like most people are doing. Dont try to ruin your countries image by smear campaign.

Yea hide them as much as you can for the sake of the country. Hide them under the blanket as much as you can. Just ignore the problem and pretend nothing is wrong. And just hope and pray, one day all the problems will be suddenly vanished.

And in the mean time whoever raises their voice, shut them down with "Bush-ism" ( Iraq war and the use of patriotism card). I hate those wistle blowers..... they are all trouble maker.

..... now I am brain washed. Can I go?


Edited on, August 22, 2005, 10:15 PM GMT, by Fazal.

rafiq
August 22, 2005, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by Dream theater
Originally posted by ekatturerBangalee
This is absolutely shocking. I know many members still have a hard time to accept the grave situation in our beloved country. Are we heading towards a 'religious' civil war?:mad:


The talk of civil war in Bangladesh is nothing but illmotivated and can not be further from the reality.

First of all, what do you think drives a country towards a civil war. We dont even have a idealogical difference in our country. most people are moderate Muslims and our country thrive on that. If bangladesh is on the verge of "civil war" would you say India( with 6/7 states fighting for separation), Pakistan ( active fundamentalists) are also fightting civil war. I bet Indian and pakistani government would disagree.

If you are the kind patriot you would like people to believe then try to take a stance like most people are doing. Dont try to ruin your countries image by smear campaign.


I am so happy to see DreamTheater post here - why hide behind the tiny walls of the Strategic Defense frontier - come out in the open and claim to be a better patriot than everyone else! About the bomb blasts, do you think the Indians and their Ahmadiya agents did it?

Banglatiger84
August 22, 2005, 10:56 PM
In the early 90s, Egypt was facing a similar kind of problem. However, the govt came down very strongly on fundamentalists after some tourists were attacked.

Also, the mainstream religious schools openly condemned and gave fatwas against fundamentalists. Initially, they did have some public support, but once they started attacking civilians in their dream for islamic rule, the population turned against them.

But what about Bangladesh, are 99% of the populace against such indiscriminate attacks? What do mainstream Mullahs and religious parties think of such attacks? Why dont they give fatwas against such lunatics? :umm:

ekatturerBangalee
August 23, 2005, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by Banglatiger84
But what about Bangladesh, are 99% of the populace against such indiscriminate attacks? What do mainstream Mullahs and religious parties think of such attacks? Why dont they give fatwas against such lunatics? :umm:

Well said Banglatiger84!

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. We are a democratic country, our government is democratically elected and yet, there is ‘no say’ by opposition party. It happened during rule of BNP (1991-1995), Awami League (1995-2000) and now BNP (2001- ). Instead of balanced politics, opposition always blames the ruling party, always ready to stir the pot and vice versa.

Now, the abuse of power in the name of democracy is the painful and yet important topic that we need to debate. We are a nation of Muslim majority and yet our Muslim politicians have their own share of those whose sense of morality had seemed to diminish as his or her power increased – the very dynamic is one of the signs that our peaceful religion has been hijacked and perverted by religious fanaticism right at the tip of the nose of our leaders. The people of Bangladesh need to wake up one more time before it's too late.

Tigers_eye
August 23, 2005, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by akabir77
When is this gonna stop?

When we the golden sons, cream of the crop, who can work honestly outside the country will return to homeland with one thing in mind: "to Give not to get" Can't do it from outside. Must be an example with the right intention.

Dream theater
August 23, 2005, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by ekatturerBangalee

Dream theater, I am not running any campaign and no need to have any theatrical comments here. Just look around. All the journalists are now awake and Bangladeshi Newspapers are buzzing with 'REAL INFORMATION".

I just visited your website (bdsdf.com) and surprised to see so many posts on India bashing (p.s. I don't care for India but my country) and even folks at bdsdf.com are going ga-ga over the comments of Nizami:

"...Matiur Rahman Nizami, Ameer of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh, a partner of the alliance government, at a press conference on Saturday blamed two foreign intelligence agencies – Israeli Mosad and Indian RAW – for serial bomb attacks of August 17..."

If that is not smear campaign, I don't know what it is.
Govt embarrassed at Nizami''s comment:
http://www.newstoday-bd.com/frontpage.asp?newsdate=8/23/2005#5977
Edited on, August 22, 2005, 9:30 PM GMT, by ekatturerBangalee.

lets look at your post line by line. I accused you of running a smear campaign. What did you do? you gave me an example of Bangladeshi newspapers. Could you please give me a single example of an article saying anything about an imminent civil war???? if you are just voicing your concern like print media then whats the point of bringing buzz word like Civil war, country dominated by fundamentalists.

And who cares about what Nizami says. he is just a political leader. Like Hasina said BNP did it, BNP said Awami League did it, Indian amabassador said fundamentalists did it? So everyone is blaming someone. Thats Bangladeshi politicians. Hope you make an attempt to understand.

And I am glad you visited www.bdsdf.com. Funny thing is only thing you see is "India Bashing". Very very interesting. From where I stand only thing i see is we accumulated a millions of articles mainly from Bangladeshi newspapers ( which you love when they write about fundamentalists) writing against impact of India's unwillingness to resolve trade imbvalance( which is billions of dollars), effect of Farakhaa damn, Indian support of insurgency inside Bangladesh, killing of Bangladeshi citizens in the border area almost everyday.

We are just pro-Bangladeshi. Not anti-Indian. Anyone who hurts the interest of my country i have every right to create awareness about that. Isn't that what ekatturer bangali should do too.

Funny you see only India bashing in numerous articles we have there. may be you patriotism is the kind I will never understand.

Just curious , you seem quite concerned about Bangladesh. Could you show me how many times you have opened a thread against killing of Bangladeshi citizens by BSF, how many suggestions you have uttered to resolve trade imbalance amounts to 1.5 billion dollar, how many times you have voiced concern that India's plan of river linking could dry up water from " nodi-nala" which is the life of our country???

Dream theater
August 23, 2005, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
Yea hide them as much as you can for the sake of the country. Hide them under the blanket as much as you can. Just ignore the problem and pretend nothing is wrong. And just hope and pray, one day all the problems will be suddenly vanished.
Edited on, August 22, 2005, 10:15 PM GMT, by Fazal.

So what do we have here. A person named Fazal who thinks sarcasm is the best way to drive a point home??? Someone named Fazal who thinks civil war is imminent in Bangladesh and if i think( god forbid) otherwise i should be treated with a barrage of sarcasm. My god you are smarter than avarage people.

And with your knowledge and "progga" which is burden for you( you proved it by your post) all you saw was that i told everyone to hide everything. bravo!!!!!!!!!

Dream theater
August 23, 2005, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by rafiq

I am so happy to see DreamTheater post here - why hide behind the tiny walls of the Strategic Defense frontier - come out in the open and claim to be a better patriot than everyone else! About the bomb blasts, do you think the Indians and their Ahmadiya agents did it?

Glad to be a source of your happiness. but your post baffled me. Who is hiding behind what???? Do you have problem understanding English sentences??? and what makes you think anyone who disagrees with you is hiding behind something .Especially when we are posting in the same forum. What gives me an extra layer of protection that you dont have.

Who did it??? SOme stupids who last concern is about their country. Who the mastermind behind that--- God knows. hopefully i will know someday very soon.

guy_zin
August 23, 2005, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by Dream theater
...hopefully i will know someday very soon.

& please,let know this board members who was the real culprit just after fininshing the Dream.

Dream theater
August 23, 2005, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Banglatiger84

But what about Bangladesh, are 99% of the populace against such indiscriminate attacks? What do mainstream Mullahs and religious parties think of such attacks? Why dont they give fatwas against such lunatics? :umm:

Yes we all are against them. Mainstream mullahs are gainst them. But i wonder why do i need a decree from Mullahs do prove that its wrong. Everyone knows it is. Only way to prevent this is to get the culprits and hang them . That example will work as a deterrent for future mullahs with extreme views.

In Egypt, Muslim brotherhood is still the most popular party. Even NyTimes, Washingtonpost thinks if real election takes place they will win. Bangladesh is different that that. Support for religious parties is low. The problem with the politicians that they use religion to get vote. Dont see that trend ending anytime soon.

Dream theater
August 23, 2005, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by guy_zin
Originally posted by Dream theater
...hopefully i will know someday very soon.

& please,let know this board members who was the real culprit just after fininshing the Dream.

My dream will not be done untill you can think like rest of the human beings.

So as you can see my dream might never come true.

Fazal
August 23, 2005, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Dream theater

So what do we have here. A person named Fazal who thinks sarcasm is the best way to drive a point home??? Someone named Fazal who thinks civil war is imminent in Bangladesh and if i think( god forbid) otherwise i should be treated with a barrage of sarcasm. My god you are smarter than avarage people.

And with your knowledge and "progga" which is burden for you( you proved it by your post) all you saw was that i told everyone to hide everything. bravo!!!!!!!!!

At least I am not hiding under nick name like "Dream theater". What other nick name did you used before? Are you scared to reveal your real name?

And your above comment is a perfect example where you twist info and make something out of nothing. For example where did you see that I said or think civil war is imminent? Unless you claim to be a fortune teller and a mind reader?

Therefore come out of the closet and stop accusing people left and right and try to listen other people's point of view with open mind. And may be... may be people do the same with your point of view.

guy_zin
August 23, 2005, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Dream theater
Originally posted by guy_zin
Originally posted by Dream theater
...hopefully i will know someday very soon.

& please,let know this board members who was the real culprit just after fininshing the Dream.

My dream will not be done untill you can think like rest of the human beings.

So as you can see my dream might never come true.


hey dreamer..its time to wake up ..peoples in your beloved country are passing a nightmarish time out there..come to the real world withhelding your dream theater project

allrounder
August 23, 2005, 10:24 AM
With unemployment, lack of education and living under poverty every frustrated and clueless innocent bangladeshi is up for recruiting for any kind of activities.

Should we not analysize the recent uprising of the so called radical groups who are demanding that we turn Bangladesh into an Islamic state and follow islamic shariah law or else face severe consequences? Our administration needs to create a full report and their action plan against these groups and give it to the people ASAP or else they remain accountable for not taking any actions for anything worse that might be ahead of us.

If we do not address and solve this problem within our country the result will be that these group will become more powerful, organized, full of resources and capabilities of doing harm to our people in order to achieve their goals and they have proved that already.

We have been taking the bombings, the messages, the activities of these groups lightly and our actions against them is slow. I believe that without outside resources and help there can never be such groups surviving in such a poor nation.

Whether a civil war is eminent or not should not be the debate or priority at this point. The govt needs to take serious actions to destroy these groups and bring the culprits to justice against all odds. Govt failing to do so will lose faith and trust of the people and at the same time our people will become 'jimmy' to these terror groups along with the govt. itself.

We bangladeshis should be united against everything that is harming our nation, we should not be selective and biased on issues. BD is under attack from inside and outside, we need to fight both and at the same time. <b>Please let us fight our enemies and not among us</b>.

allrounder
August 23, 2005, 10:47 AM
It is sad that for so many years we are not able to resolve the issues with India and stop them from worsening our country's condition. We are to blame for letting India continue its systematic exploitation of our country and we are to blame for letting these dariwala groups poping up within our people or the Myanmar refugee situation.

May be we really need a civil war to fight against the evils that crippled our country forever. I will back any war to free our people from the corrupt political parties, govt, institutions, groups or nations. A war do not necessarily need firearms to fight, we can have a war with the strength of our voice, non violent activities, media exposure, educational and social revolution within the people.

ekatturerBangalee
August 23, 2005, 02:07 PM
Very disturbing article:

"...DHAKA, Aug. 22 (Xinhuanet) -- Bigger attacks than the Aug. 17 string of countrywide blasts and killing of non-Muslim leaders in Bangladesh have been planned by some terrorist groups, intelligence services informed the government on Sunday...."

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-08/22/content_3388152.htm

ekatturerBangalee
August 23, 2005, 02:16 PM
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http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/08/24/2005-08-24__front01.jpg

Arrested moulana, former Islamic Foundation director Fariduddin Masud points finger at Nizami: http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/08/24/d5082401011.htm

Edited on, August 23, 2005, 7:17 PM GMT, by ekatturerBangalee.

howzatt!
August 23, 2005, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by akabir77
so whats the solution? I think BNP is/was better option then AL? SO what do u think we the voters should do? All party's r SHAITAN so people elcted the less SHAITAN they thought at that time. And i belive they havn't done anything significant yet to think other wise...

They r trying to resolve this let them do it. if they don't people can vote the other party like they did last time. Why do we have to rush every thing??? When is this gonna stop?

AL or BNP, they don't care what's in the best interest of bangladeshis. neither of these parties will take harsh enough action to stop these militants at their root. BNP will only take so much action so that they look good before next election. AL will keep on blaming BNP and calling hartals for not doing enough. if they are elected in next election they'll forget about rising islmaic militancy in our nation and start taking revenge against BNP. what we need is martial law.we need someone like parvez musharraf to sort out the uprising of militanst in our country. otherwise soon our country will turn into another afghanistan of mid-late 90s.

akabir77
August 23, 2005, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by howzatt!

AL or BNP, they don't care what's in the best interest of bangladeshis. neither of these parties will take harsh enough action to stop these militants at their root. BNP will only take so much action so that they look good before next election. AL will keep on blaming BNP and calling hartals for not doing enough. if they are elected in next election they'll forget about rising islmaic militancy in our nation and start taking revenge against BNP. what we need is martial law.we need someone like parvez musharraf to sort out the uprising of militanst in our country. otherwise soon our country will turn into another afghanistan of mid-late 90s.

I like this idea

ekatturerBangalee
August 23, 2005, 10:25 PM
http://independent-bangladesh.com/news/aug/24/photo2.jpg
Malek, Ashraful, Khairul and Khaimuddin, arrested in connection with blasts from Gabtali in Bogra, were produced before the court on August 23. — FocusBangla


I am a victim of Jamaat conspiracy, Ex-director of Islamic Foundation tells court
http://independent-bangladesh.com/news/aug/24/24082005ts.htm#A1

Edited on, August 24, 2005, 3:27 AM GMT, by ekatturerBangalee.

ekatturerBangalee
August 24, 2005, 01:42 PM
http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/08/25/2005-08-25__front02.jpg

Cadres of Bangla Bhai armed with bamboo sticks and guarded by the police bring out a procession in Rajshahi city on May 23, 2004. PHOTO: File Photo

"...A number of militants who were arrested over time have revealed that they either belong to the Jamaat-e-Islami or its various wings or were past members. The most startling suspected Jamaat-militant link was unearthed at Khetlal of Joypurhat August 14, 2003. After an overnight gunfight at Jamaat activist Montejur Rahman's house, police arrested 39 suspected militants, 29 of whom confessed they were activists of Jamaat's student wing Islami Chhatra Shibir (ICS)..."

"...In August 2003, Sohel, a student of Sunamganj Government College was arrested for links with the JMB. His brother Selim made the following statement to the press on August 23: "Shibir turned my brother into an ultra-religious man and forced him to work for Jama'atul Mijahideen [JMB]." Local ICS president Abu Hanif, however, denied the link and said, "He might have worked for us previously but is no more a Shibir worker now." Other than Jamaat, some leaders of the ruling BNP also supported the militants, specially Bangla Bhai and his group Jagrata Muslim Janata, Bangladesh (JMJB) in the northern districts. Bangla Bhai himself was an active member of the ICS until 1995. When Bangla Bhai came into focus for his killings, a state minister, a deputy minister and a BNP lawmaker openly supported him and directed the local police to give Bangla Bhai shelter...."

"...Last November, three militants were arrested with 24 powerful gelatin bomb-sticks and 124 electronic detonators in Gaibandha from a Shantahar-bound train. All of them said they are ICS activists although Jamaat disowned them.
Afterward, five JMB activists were arrested while making time bombs at the residence of one Naimuddin Hazi, a Jamaat worker. On May 23 last year, JMB members marched through Rajshahi town with police escort, in which local Jamaat leaders and activists participated. After the grenade attack on British High Commissioner Anwar Choudhury at Hazrat Shahjalal Shrine in Sylhet on May 21 last year, Khelafat Majlish Amir Hahbibur Rahman called a press conference to dismiss reports of his link to the incident. Jamaat and Islami Oikya Jote leaders accompanied him to the press conference...."


[i]JAMAAT DENIAL=> Whenever any militant claims link to Jamaat, the party holds press conferences or issues statements to disclaim such connections. On August 20, Jamaat Aimr Moulana Matiur Rahman Nizami at a press conference said his party has no connection with militants. He said Jamaat does not believe in extremism and that such links are cooked up to malign the party.



Militants claim Jamaat background:
http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/08/25/d5082501033.htm

PoorFan
August 24, 2005, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by howzatt!
Originally posted by akabir77
so whats the solution? I think BNP is/was better option then AL? SO what do u think we the voters should do? All party's r SHAITAN so people elcted the less SHAITAN they thought at that time. And i belive they havn't done anything significant yet to think other wise...

They r trying to resolve this let them do it. if they don't people can vote the other party like they did last time. Why do we have to rush every thing??? When is this gonna stop?

AL or BNP, they don't care what's in the best interest of bangladeshis. neither of these parties will take harsh enough action to stop these militants at their root. BNP will only take so much action so that they look good before next election. AL will keep on blaming BNP and calling hartals for not doing enough. if they are elected in next election they'll forget about rising islmaic militancy in our nation and start taking revenge against BNP. what we need is martial law.we need someone like parvez musharraf to sort out the uprising of militanst in our country. otherwise soon our country will turn into another afghanistan of mid-late 90s.
I understand your concern on AL and BNP as per their previous record, but a martial law or a government like Parvez Musharraf should never be an option for our better interest. We had a long history of military intervention to our politics with full of bloodshed, which in my opinion caused us too much in our short history. Finally we just got the way to keep them in barrack, so there is no meaning to take a step back by bringing them out again ( martial law ). Besides any kind of dictatorship is never be a solution in a long view, world history teaches us clearly if we take a close look.

Dream theater
August 26, 2005, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
[
At least I am not hiding under nick name like "Dream theater". What other nick name did you used before? Are you scared to reveal your real name?

And your above comment is a perfect example where you twist info and make something out of nothing. For example where did you see that I said or think civil war is imminent? Unless you claim to be a fortune teller and a mind reader?

Therefore come out of the closet and stop accusing people left and right and try to listen other people's point of view with open mind. And may be... may be people do the same with your point of view.

I thought you r not that social. Want to know my name and stuff. The reason I joined the forum was to talk about cricket. So I choose my favourite band's name. Hope that makes sense.

I am Hasan. Just graduated from a college in US. Became a working man. Let me know what else you need to know.

So you are open to let everyone know whats your point of view. As soon as I let you know my God !!!!! I should rather listen to others than post. Ok.

Dream theater
August 26, 2005, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by howzatt!

AL or BNP, they don't care what's in the best interest of bangladeshis. neither of these parties will take harsh enough action to stop these militants at their root. BNP will only take so much action so that they look good before next election. AL will keep on blaming BNP and calling hartals for not doing enough. if they are elected in next election they'll forget about rising islmaic militancy in our nation and start taking revenge against BNP. what we need is martial law.we need someone like parvez musharraf to sort out the uprising of militanst in our country. otherwise soon our country will turn into another afghanistan of mid-late 90s.

Vai I cant agree more with you. Our only hope is politicians of next generation will only think about the country not the vote bank or bank balance. Some say continious election will filter out these bad politicians of ours. We can just only hope.

anthrax
August 26, 2005, 11:25 AM
my uncle from bangladesh called me yesterday to temme dat he delivered a photocopy machine to sheikh hasinas house on 15 th august (dat time she was celebrating the indian independence day)........

so now u guyz know.....where those leafelets by JMB (leafelets that demanded an islamic judiciary......found alongside every bomb) came from......

our beloved lady was busy photocopying them.......

if we cant win free and fair elections then why not go the ALL CROOKED WAY.......:fire:

note : - i was being funny............is'nt this the best time to be funny ????.........whn all our politicians are busy blaming each other........so i thought wht bout intervening in all this funny crap and tickle everyones funny bone..:fanflag:

cheers........:P

Edited on, August 26, 2005, 4:29 PM GMT, by anthrax.

Edited on, August 26, 2005, 4:30 PM GMT, by anthrax.

mwrkhan
August 26, 2005, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by anthrax

Not very funny I'm afraid. :duh:

ekatturerBangalee
September 11, 2005, 10:01 PM
http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/12/2005-09-12__front01.jpg

Bounty for arrest of Abdur Rahman, Bangla Bhai

"The government yesterday announced a bounty for information leading to the arrest of Abdur Rahman and Siddiqul Islam alias Bangla Bhai, both accused of masterminding the August 17 countrywide blasts...."

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/12/d5091201011.htm

jabbar
September 11, 2005, 10:28 PM
These guys look dodgy as hell!

Pundit
September 11, 2005, 11:24 PM
eeks ! No wonder ekatturer bangalee is so spooked, even from the safety of his home inside heartland America. These characters are straight out of a "Rakkhosher Golpo" we are typically used to hearing as small kids.

Hey, any chance I could borrow your name...ekatturer bangali ? Afterall, my spirit of Independence is as much as yours, right ? Actually, you might think about patenting it before my idea catches on.

Let Bangladesh, Freedom, & Religion prevail !

imtiaz82
September 12, 2005, 01:49 AM
Whatever this person "Bangla bhai" is doing on forcing people to follow a certain way of thinking is clearly against the teaching of Islam, as Allah (SWT) said in Quran:

“Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.” [Sűrah al-Baqarah: 256]

“If it had been your Lord’s will, all of the people on Earth would have believed. Would you then compel the people so to have them believe?” [Sűrah Yűnus: 99]

We(as muslims) should try our best to spread the message of Islam but not force people into it.Persons like "Bangla bhai" are giving a bad name to our religion and it's followers.

Also, there was a thread in BC earlier on, regarding "minority oppression" in Bangladesh. This surprises me, as our prophet Muhammad(pbuh) said:

Whoever hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys God." (Bukhari)

"He who hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state, I am his adversary, and I shall be his adversary on the Day of a Judgement." (Bukhari)

"Beware on the Day of Judgement; I shall mysefl be complainant against him who wrongs a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state or lays on him a responsibility greater than he can bear or deprives him of anything that belongs to him." (Al-Mawardi)

"Anyone who kills a Non-Muslim who had become our ally will not smell the fragrance of Paradise." (Bukhari)

I do not understand how the hindus/buddhist/christians and other minorities are treated badly by muslims, when our prophet(pbuh) has warned us so many times against it!

Edited on, September 12, 2005, 6:50 AM GMT, by nayeem007.

Fazal
September 12, 2005, 01:10 PM
<b>JMB chief Abdur Rahman's brother held in Jamalpur
Staff Correspondent</b>

Police arrested Moulana Obaidur Rahman Ibne <b>Fazle</b>, younger brother of banned Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) chief Abdur Rahman, at Madarganj upazila in Jamalpur early yesterday, suspecting his involvement in the August 17 countrywide serial blasts.

Obaidur's father late Moulana Abdullah Ibne Fazal was a member of the Jamiatul Ahle Hadith, which is now led by arrested Rajshahi University teacher Asadullah al Galib. Moulana <b>Fazal</b> was also accused of collaborating with the Pakistani forces during the Liberation War of 1971. :embaressed:

ekatturerBangalee
September 12, 2005, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Fazal
Moulana <b>Fazal</b> was also accused of collaborating with the Pakistani forces during the Liberation War of 1971. :embaressed:

Damned :duh:

Another news:
Militants' bomb factory found in city

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/13/2005-09-13__front01.jpg

allrounder
September 12, 2005, 02:02 PM
Why is it hard to understand that people do not fully abide by the teachings and preachings of Religion or Prophets.

Originally posted by nayeem007
I do not understand how the hindus/buddhist/christians and other minorities are treated badly by muslims, when our prophet(pbuh) has warned us so many times against it!

<b>Pundit</b> - Bangla bhai and JMB members are not the "real rakkhosh" but thru them we can find the links to the "real rakkhosh" who have made them what they are today. So we should definitely find them ASAP and not let them go free as we did earlier.

If what is being reported in the news and media is not really having an effect on you, may be you need to really go with the cops and look at the books, videos and bomb making materials they find and hold them with your own hands to get a feeling of the situation.

Things like this is really hard to believe that it can happen in our country, but sooner or later we need to accept the truth and act on it before it gets out of control. Also acting fast will prevent the bad image from spreading and any future plan to brand our Country to something it is not.

what you say?

imtiaz82
September 12, 2005, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by allrounder
Why is it hard to understand that people do not fully abide by the teachings and preachings of Religion or Prophets.

Yes, I know that people do not always follow the teachings of Prophet Mohammad(pbuh), but I would expect that on issues that are vague and not clear. Things that can be manipulated to have a different meaning.

But the hadiths regarding the treatment of non-muslims are very straightforward and I am not sure how they can be understood otherwise.

Anyhow, it is sad to see the lack of knowledge among people regarding Islam....

ekatturerBangalee
September 14, 2005, 09:45 PM
http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/15/2005-09-15__front01.jpg

August 17 bomb den identified in city - Courier company used to send bombs to districts

"Detectives yesterday unearthed a Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) den in the city's North Bashabo where the Islamist militants made all the bombs used in the August 17 serial blasts across the country..."

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/15/d5091501011.htm

imtiaz82
September 14, 2005, 11:47 PM
Damn! These dudes looks nothing like fundamentalist- Jihadi- Al Qaeda- extremist-islamic militants. Where is the scary beard and topi!

Ahh, they are getting smart nowadays. shaving the beard :rolleyes:

Edited on, September 15, 2005, 4:47 AM GMT, by nayeem007.

ekatturerBangalee
September 16, 2005, 05:33 PM
http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/17/2005-09-17__front01.jpg

Bomb-making materials seized from Jamaat man's house
"Tanore police arrest two top JMB militants and seize huge amount of bomb making materials from a Jamaat man's house at Chandpur village in the upazila of Rajshahi district yesterday. Photo shows (clockwise) : Arrested Tufan and Shahidullah Faruk, bomb making instruments, local made arms, and detonators...."

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/17/d5091701011.htm

ekatturerBangalee
September 17, 2005, 04:47 PM
http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/18/2005-09-18__front01.jpg

Militants clash with cops on capture mission

Police arrest four militants, from left, Abdul Matin, Shihab, Hafizur Rahman and Hasibul Islam, at a JMB den at Mirpara in Natore town yesterday.

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/18/d5091801011.htm

imtiaz82
September 17, 2005, 05:22 PM
To tell you the truth, I do not see the point of this thread anymore. People are just copy pasting daily star news report.

Most Bangladeshis abroad keep track of these newspapers and are aware of whats going on. The non-Bangladeshi members will have a worse picture of Bangladesh after joining the forum. Afterall selective news on terrorism doesn't help the image of any country.

Edited on, September 19, 2005, 3:58 AM GMT, by nayeem007.

mwrkhan
September 17, 2005, 06:20 PM
Image is important I agree. But it is also important to show the rest of the world that we Bangladeshis are as concerned about terrorism as everyone else. Allowing terrorist elements to flourish in Bangladesh will do nothing for our image in the long run.

Pundit
September 17, 2005, 07:02 PM
Even before I right, I can see one of the mods taking an aim at my rear end...you guys.....

"But it is also important to show the rest of the world that we Bangladeshis are as concerned about terrorism as everyone else."

Can we assume that mass poverty does not concerm you ? I have not seen any pics posted by you on that topic ? Which could mean any of the following...

1) poverty does not exist in BD, or
2) Poverty does not concern you, or
3) You have your eyes so focused on "terrorist elements" that you fail to see all of BD's other problems.

I voodoo you, from now on you will dream of a kath mollah preaching your kid at the neighborhood private school.

Anyway, some of you remind me of folks here in the USA driving around in their SUVs with that $5 sticker printed in China that reads "Fight terrorism." I guess this is your version of token resistance.

mwrkhan
September 18, 2005, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Pundit
Even before I right, I can see one of the mods taking an ...............China that reads "Fight terrorism." I guess this is your version of token resistance.

What on Earth are you talking about :info::info::info:

Pundit
September 18, 2005, 11:50 PM
Now the facade of innocence.

mwrkhan
September 19, 2005, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by Pundit
Now the facade of innocence.

Really!! What on Earth are you talking about? If you have something to say just say it.

ekatturerBangalee
September 19, 2005, 09:33 AM
Many among us are still in State of Denial. How does Jamat, JMB, have to do anything with so many bomb blasts across the country? They are just peace loving Muslims, teaching all the good things in the Madrashas. It has to be a ploy by the opposition. Why on earth Bangladeshis are ruining our images to the world by talking about Islamic Militancy and Extremism in BD? Blah Blah Blah..

If you are a patriot, then speak up. People need to know what’s going on in BD these days. If you show stuff with images, you can’t deny but admit even if it is painful to so many among us to see Islam and Religion being used by some crackpots to introduce Sharias and wipe out our Bangla heritage. The August 17 bomblasts is now under intense investigation due to a worldwide outcry the gruesome incident had generated. The concerned citizens can demand for investigation and punishment but the whole process needs sincerity from the government in power. In fact, the present government did not show any sincerity in investigating any attack on the moderate political parties and secular cultural organizations. They tried to cover up and confuse the public by blaming the victims themselves for the crime. Many high level leaders of the present fundamentalist coalition government continued to blame the opposition. By actively participation in the blame game, they have again condoned the brutal attack on secularist forces of Bangladesh never mind the fact that they have encouraged the grenade throwers to become bolder in their modus operandi. It would not be a surprise if the culprits continue attacking the moderate political parties and their allied cultural organizations in Bangladesh going forward.
Under the present government, the police forces are in fact helpless. They cannot round up the original perpetrators of the crime. Instead, they are under pressure to catch someone who could be used to divert the attention from the original culprits, mainly the extremist fundamentalists. It is not an unknown fact that the militant fundamentalist organizations are actively pursuing to destabilize the Muslim countries of the world. Bangladesh is not out of their consideration.

However, in Bangladesh, the present government consists of Jamaat-i-Islami, which formed armed cadre groups such as Al Badars, Al Shams, etc., to eliminate and kill secular forces. They are alleged to carry out the killings of many intellectuals at the wee hours of our independence in December 1971. How can we be certain that they are not encouraging the armed militant Islamic fundamentalist groups using their power in Bangladesh? Who will be the beneficiaries if the militant Islamic groups destabilize Bangladesh a la mode Afghanistan by killing and eliminating secular parties and their allied organizations?

After all these hoopla, maybe just maybe, one day our politicians will come to sense, take responsibility for the current mess, fix our corrupt judiciary system, get rid of the extremists and bring back prosperity to the country.

Banglatiger84
September 19, 2005, 12:22 PM
if you categorise people killed by "islamic extremists" and "secular" people from independence to 2005, I am sure the latter category will be responsible for far more deaths.

Extremists who claim to be islamic are just one of many ills our country has been plagued with.
People have been burned or bombed to death by AL workers enforcing hartal. Are those deaths any less painful than those by "islamic extremists"?

Its not like Bangladesh was a perfectly safe and secure place when "secular forces" were in power. They are equally to blame for our image and condition.

People were killed during AL's reign, and are being killed now. Whats important is to bring all killers tojustice, and not to magnify crimes commited by any one group.

ekatturerBangalee
September 19, 2005, 07:20 PM
http://www.prothom-alo.net/v1/2005-09-19/19h3headline.jpg

Khulna mosques used as militants' training camp

"...Masud bin Ishaque, arrested in Khulna for suspected links to the August 17 serial blasts, yesterday confessed to having trained the Islamist militants in firearms and bombs in Khulna city. Giving a confessional statement to the chief metropolitan magistrate in Khulna, he also said Ahle Hadith Andolan Bangladesh (Ahab) chief Dr Asadullah al Galib, Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) chief Abdur Rahman, and some other militant leaders had met him in Khulna on numerous occasions in the last three years to discuss the training programme for the militants. Masud further disclosed that JMB was also responsible for the bomb attacks on circus and cinemas in 2002...."

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/19/d5091901011.htm

Pundit
September 19, 2005, 11:14 PM
Were not some members warned in the past for repeatedly posting newspaper articles ? Just curious.

But I guess this topic is close to heart of some mods as well ? Is it not ?

; )

Just kiddin.

ekatturerBangalee
September 20, 2005, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Pundit
Were not some members warned in the past for repeatedly posting newspaper articles ? Just curious.

But I guess this topic is close to heart of some mods as well ? Is it not ?

; )

Just kiddin.

Pundit,

Why can't you admit that being a die-hard BNP fan, you can't take it anymore that all these nonsense are happening right now at the tip of the nose of BNP Govt.?
;)
Just kiddin

ekatturerBangalee
September 20, 2005, 04:19 PM
Bomb Squad Training

Ex-lance corporal held on suspicion
60-member team carried out attacks in capital
Star Report

"...Detectives arrested retired lance corporal of the army Harun-ur-Rashid, suspected to have trained up the bomb squad of Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB), in city's Mirpur area early yesterday..."

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/21/d5092101044.htm

Pundit
September 20, 2005, 09:00 PM
BNP fan ! That's the first time someone has accused me of that, I think ! Never have really been in BD when BNP ran the country, never even as much as heard a beep of BNP from my folks, either. So I am confounded.

Well, atleast its now clear that its all about politics to you.

I believe I have expressed my concern with all things detrimental to Bangladesh (that's Bengal for you, still, right ?).

ekatturerBangalee
September 21, 2005, 07:53 PM
http://www.prothom-alo.net/v1/2005-09-22/22h9headline.jpg

Masud confesses arms training held at N'ganj
JMB cadres held secret meet at
Azampur mosque after Aug 17
Lance Nayek Harun taken on 7-day remand

"...In Dhaka, arrested Masud confessed that, the JMB also held a three-day workshop on 'theoretical arms training and Islami Jihad' in Narayanganj district. Military chief of JMB Ataur Rahman, who is the younger brother of top JMB leader Shaekh Abdur Rahman, along with two other top militants, conducted the training where a good number of apprentice militants took part.

"The JMB top leaders trained us sketching the pictures of deadly weapons on the wall board," grilled JMB member Abdur Rahman alias Masud, 18, disclosed this to the members of the Detective Branch (DB) of police Wednesday. ..."

http://www.bangladeshobserveronline.com/new/2005/09/22/front.htm



Edited on, September 22, 2005, 1:22 AM GMT, by ekatturerBangalee.

ekatturerBangalee
September 23, 2005, 05:14 PM
http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/24/2005-09-24__front01.jpg

http://ittefaq.com/uploaded/05/09/24/65386_1_a.jpg

'Mastermind' of Aug 17 blasts held

KHULNA
“…The law enforcers have claimed that at least 60 bombs were made in Abdul Hakim's house at Bagmara in Batiaghata and of those, 17 were exploded at 13 points across Khulna. Six JMB cadres were assigned to detonate the bombs, said Mahbubur Rahman, Officer-in-Charge of Batiaghata Police Station….”

BOGRA
“…Abdur Razzak, arrested at a furniture shop in Nepaltoli area of Gabtoli upazila late Thursday night, yesterday admitted his links to the blasts in Bogra on August 17, reports our Bogra correspondent. He also said Abdul Hamid, a JMB cadre from Rajshahi, used to train some 150 men in firearms at dead of night at Bhatghara Char in Nepaltoli. He said Hamid had supplied him and six others with bombs at about 10:00am on August 17 and taught them how to turn on the switches fitted with the bombs…”

JOYPURHAT
“…Police yesterday arrested two activists of JMB in Kalai area in connection with the August 17 blasts in the district, reports UNB….”

RAJSHAHI
“…Police last evening picked up Abdul Wadud from Ahab mosque at Nawdapara. A militant suspect, Wadud is the son of Ahle Hadith Andolon Bangladesh's second-in-command Shaikh Abdus Samad Salafi. Police yesterday were gathering information about his role in the explosions. Samad Salafi was arrested along with Galib on February 23….”

DHAKA
“…Police arrested one suspected member of JMB in Dhamrai area early yesterday. The arrestee, Ershad, 29, hails from Ashulia village of Dhamrai. Police said they have gathered from the arrested youth some evidence relating to the bomb attacks. …”

BAGERHAT
“…Hafez Mohammad Keramat Ali, 50, and Abdullah Sheikh, 45, who were held on Wednesday in Bagerhat, were being interrogated for their 'links to the bomb attacks', reports BDNEWS. In another development, Maulana Abdullah Gazi was brought to Bagerhat from Joint Interrogation Cell (JIC) in Dhaka and was sent to jail yesterday….”

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/24/d5092401011.htm

imtiaz82
September 23, 2005, 05:34 PM
Islam disapproves of terrorism
Scholars tell seminar in capital
Staff Correspondent

Leading Islamic scholars and thinkers from South and Southeast Asia yesterday denounced terrorism and destruction of life in the name of Islam or any religion in a continued bid to clear the Muslims of alleged involvement in such activities.

They said Islam disapproves of militancy, extremism, wars, disorder, hatred and all sorts of terrorism; it rather preaches and promulgates peace, progress, moderation, tolerance and harmony.

The very objective of Islam is to promote ethical values, while any act of violence causing deaths of innocent people or destruction of property frustrates the basic spirit of the religion, they added.

The scholars were speaking on the second day of a three-day regional seminar on "Islam: Religion of Peace, Progress and Harmony; Bangladesh: Model of a Moderate Muslim Nation" at the Bangladesh-China Friendship Conference Centre.

Organised by the Dhaka-based Centre for National and Regional Studies (CNRS), the seminar is being attended by Islamic scholars from Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Singapore and host Bangladesh.

The speakers said the Muslims usually react when there is injustice and disorder, but they never cross the limit as it is completely prohibited in the Holy Qur'an.

They claimed current struggles of the Muslims around the globe are for freedom, rights and establishing justice.

They also urged Islamic scholars and thinkers to identify ways and means to counter the strong propaganda of the western world against Islam, saying those who are accusing Islam are 'ignorant'.

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/24/d5092401033.htm

endofinnocence
September 23, 2005, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by nayeem007
Islam disapproves of terrorism
Scholars tell seminar in capital
Staff Correspondent


-"Thakur Ghor-e Key-re"?
-"Ami Kola KHai-Na.." :D:D:D

Banglatiger84
September 24, 2005, 12:27 AM
Hmm, if scholars do not speak out, then they are complicit in bombings.

If they speak out, they are doing so only if because they are related to it.
:great:

Islam doesnt approve of such acts, and if you find it funny about this, i suggest you read more about islam. There are plenty of websites where you can get information on how and why islam doesnt approve of such bombings, however you will have to make the effort to read through them :)

endofinnocence
September 24, 2005, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by Banglatiger84
Hmm, if scholars do not speak out, then they are complicit in bombings.

If they speak out, they are doing so only if because they are related to it.
:great:

Islam doesnt approve of such acts, and if you find it funny about this, i suggest you read more about islam. There are plenty of websites where you can get information on how and why islam doesnt approve of such bombings, however you will have to make the effort to read through them :)

But think it from this perspective. These people have been supporting the islamic-fundoos in many ways for many years --- but now they are arranging these seminars to save their own faces. There are some elements of hypocrisy in these seminars to denounce violence.

To prove this point further --- most of these 'scholars' probably found this 'realization' only recently - whereas everyone else is talking about Islamic-terrorism for years... all these years they were denying any existence of terror (in a way saving / hiding / breeding the fundamentalists). Now all of a sudden they are distancing them from fundamentalism!!! How convenient?

ekatturerBangalee
September 24, 2005, 12:04 PM
Jamaat link to militants becomes evident

Link of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh with different Islamist militant organisations is becoming evident with the arrest of militants in connection with the attacks on different NGOs in northern districts in February and August 17 countrywide serial bomb blasts.

While the Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) leaflets found at all the August 17 bomb blast spots demanded establishment of Islamic rule in the country, the Jamaat chief earlier openly declared that "Islamic rule will be established soon."

Jamaat chief and Industries Minister Matiur Rahman Nizami on February 25 told his followers at a public rally at Jaldhaka in Nilphamari, "Wait and see…get ready for directive."

A number of arrested militants confessed to having close ties with Jamaat and its front organisations. Moreover, Jamaat, a key constituent of the ruling coalition, has at times worked for the release of many such arrestees, which also prove its connections with the militant groups.

Jamaat's intervention and success to free the militants also clearly show that the Islamist party is enjoying administrative support and using government machinery to achieve its target.

According to police record, over 100 militants were arrested during January-August this year in connection with the bombings, and all the arrestees either belong to Jamaat or its various wings at present or worked with them earlier.

Whenever any Jamaat or Shibir activist was arrested for militant activities, Jamaat lobbied for their release, and where they failed, they announced that the arrested militant had been expelled from the party earlier.

Although a good number of activists of the banned Islamist militant organisation Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) have confessed that the JMB carried out the August 17 attacks,

Jamaat chief always ruled out JMB existence. The most wanted militant Bangla Bhai is a creation of media, he has said several times.

Even yesterday Nizami told parliament that "A section of media is also engaged in the evil design to implicate Jamaat in the incident [August 17 blasts] by hook or crook."

Jamaat lawmaker Riasat Ali Biswas in the last parliament session also denied the existence of JMB in Bangladesh.

Analysts say the reason behind Jamaat-militant link can be answered with an observation that finds a deep-rooted aspiration to secure more state power.

Jamaat is aiming to get tickets for 100 seats of the coalition in the next parliamentary elections and it wants to have other Islamist parties with it to make the plan a success, said an analyst.

According to the analyst, Jamaat's quite-evident role in the bomb blasts is a powerful demonstration of its militancy prowess and also a warning to the BNP that it will have to face trouble if it wants to break alliance with them.

"Jamaat is also sending signal to other Islamist parties and militant groups that they will face trouble if they do not join hands with it," the analyst said, pointing to a recent speech of the prime minister in which she asked other Islamist parties to join the coalition.

MILITANTS' JAMAAT LINK

Bangla Bhai, head of the killing squad of the banned Jagrata Muslim Janata Bangladesh (JMJB), had been an active Shibir member until 1995.

JMB chief Abdur Rahman and his father were also Jamaat workers.

Many in the JMB leadership joined the organisation on special assignments from Jamaat and Shibir. Moreover, statements of the arrestees prove that Jamaat is involved with the JMB one way or the other.

Nasiruddin, whom police arrested in Satkhira on August 17 and who first confessed that the JMB carried out the countrywide bomb attacks, told the police that he was a Jamaat worker until 1995.

On September 1, police arrested Tariqul Islam in Faridpur with Shibir certificate and he confessed to police that he was involved with the organisation in his student life.

After his arrest at Debiganj in Panchagarh on February 23 last year, militant Azizul told police he was previously a Shibir member and now a worker of the JMB.

JMB militants Samiul Al Siju and Fazlul Haq admitted after their arrest at Gangachhara in Rangpur on February 23 that they were active Shibir workers.

However, the then assistant superintendent of police of Rangpur in his probe report on the attack on Brac office identified the two as Rukans of Jamaat.

In August 2003, Sohel, a student of Sunamganj Government College, was arrested for having links with the JMB. His brother Selim told the press on August 23, "Shibir turned my brother into an ultra-religious man and forced him to work for JMB."

Local Shibir President Abu Hanif, however, denied the link saying, "Sohel might have worked for us previously but is no more a Shibir worker now."

Last November, three militants were arrested with 24 powerful gelatine bomb-sticks and 124 electronic detonators in Gaibandha from a Shantahar-bound train. All of them said they are Shibir activists although Jamaat disowned them.

Ahle Hadith Andolon Bangladesh (Ahab) chief Asadullah Al Galib, who is now in jail custody for bombing an NGO office, organised a press conference in Rajshahi town on February 17. A Jamaat lawmaker from Satkhira attended the event.

LOBBY AND RELEASE

Police on the night of September 14 arrested two Shibir activists with CDs and books allegedly on Islamic jihad at the Jatiya Sangsad Bhaban premises. Jamaat lawmakers lobbied with the speaker for their release following the incident.

The next day Tejgaon police produced the two before a court without bringing any specific charges against them and the two were released.

Speaker Jamiruddin Sircar admitted that lawmaker Abdul Aziz made a phone call to him requesting him to initiate steps to release the two Shibir men.

Three days after the August 17 blasts, Rapid Action Battalion arrested five militants, including Jamaat leader Abdul Majid, in Dinajpur and handed them over to the police. Majid was freed within 30 minutes following intervention of the local Jamaat unit.

Police arrested five militants, including one Ramijuddin in Dinajpur on August 22. The district Jamaat unit bailed out Ramij from the police station.

JAMAAT & SHIBIR BOMB BLAST SUSPECTS
Police arrested Jamaat activists Kafiluddin, Kazi Nazrul Islam and madrasa teacher Jarjis in Chandpur and Omar Faruk at Parbatipur on August 19.

Abdul Haq, former Jamaat unit chief of Gabtoli, Bogra, Abul Hossain and Mujibur Rahman were arrested in Khulna a day later. Police arrested Shibir activist Helaluddin at a mosque in Bianibazar of Sylhet on September 9.

Police in Kushtia arrested Shibir activist Mutassim Billah on August 22 for his links with the August 17 blasts.

Police arrested 11 suspected militants, including Enamul--a follower of Bangla Bhai, and two Rajshahi University (RU) students, at their Puthiapara training camp in Paba upazila on July 19.

Enamul, also the team leader, was a Shibir activist before he had joined the Jagrata Muslim Janata, Bangladesh (JMJB) a year ago. The RU students Golam Mustafa and Ibrahim Hossain claimed they "support" Shibir.

JAMAAT'S DENIAL & THE TRUTH
Police on September 16 arrested two top JMB militants with huge amount of bomb-making materials and four firearms at a house belonging to a Jamaat activist in Tanore, Rajshahi.

One of the arrestees Moulana Shahidullah Faruq, JMB's Chapainawabganj sector commander, is the son of Moulana Meserullah Nasir Uddin, a Jamaat activist and a madrasa teacher. His elder brother Obaidullah is a Tanore upazila unit Jamaat leader.

Their mother Shahida Begum told The Daily Star that Faruq was a Shibir activist and joined the Ahle Hadith Jubo Sangha after completing madrasa education in 2002. Faruq, however, said he had joined JMB in 2002 although the Ahab protested this statement.

Jamaat Secretary General and Social Welfare Minister Ali Ahsan Md Mujahid in a protest letter regarding the Tanore incident denied Jamaat's links of any sort with the arrestees although Rajshahi Jamaat in a statement on the same day admitted that Obaidullah is the vice president of local Jamaat supporters' committee.

The law enforcers on September 8 recovered hundreds of bombs and materials for bombs from the house of Ataur Rahman, brother of JMB chief Abdur Rahman, following the confessional statement by former Jamaat ameer's son AHM Shamim of Habiganj.

Jamaat claimed Ameer Moulana Saidur Rahman, who had served as the district Jamaat chief for three years since 1989, had been expelled from the party.

Despite Jamaat's claim of having no contacts with Shamim, the existing district Jamaat chief Prof Ashraf Uddin requested a top official of the district police over phone to release him, saying Shamim is a "good boy" and that police had arrested him mistakenly, said a police officer.

The Jamaat-militant link was revealed at Khetlal in Joypurhat on August 14, 2003, after a gunfight at Jamaat activist Montejar Rahman's house, which was being used as a training camp. Police arrested 39 suspected militants and 29 of them confessed to being Shibir activists. They said Shibir had assigned them to work for the JMB.

Montejar, who had been the chief of Baraitola union Jamaat until 2001, however, escaped arrest. Police found a list of Jamaat-Shibir activists and Jamaat publications from the house.

Jamaat said it had expelled Montejar two years before the incident.

The police found out from his diary that he had applied to become a Rukon, a midlevel position in the Jamaat party hierarchy.

Police also recovered a letter written to him by the district ameer of Jamaat and seized some leaflets, letters and JMB receipts of fund collection for jihad. Local police had told the press that a significant number of people, who subscribed to the JMB, were members of Jamaat.

A training manual titled "Proshikkhan Guide" was recovered from a den of militants in Goran in the capital. It was learnt that the text was for Shibir activists.

Hishami Al Talabi, writer of the training manual, has translated several books of Jamaat founder Moulana Abul Ala Moududi.

During the raids police found some documents from the militants' house that show that they used to regularly donate to Jamaat.

Some militants arrested from different parts of the country played an active role in the last parliamentary elections for Jamaat candidates. Jamaat, however, claims they were expelled.

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/22/d5092201033.htm

imtiaz82
September 24, 2005, 12:39 PM
Hanif’s jibe at secularism irks
non-Muslim AL leaders
Hasina tells leaders to keep mum
KHADIMUL ISLAM

The recently reported suggestion of the opposition Awami League’s Dhaka city unit president, Mohammad Haif, that the party should officially abandon its secularist principles has generated commotion among a section of party leaders, particularly those belonging to the Hindu faith.
Hanif, former mayor of the capital and the leading member of the Awami League’s central working committee, told a Bangla daily on September 22 that it was time for the party to abandon secularist principles and replace them with the slogan of ‘freedom of religion and religious practices’.
Claiming himself a ‘Muslim first’, the Awami League leader also told the Bangla daily that he has ‘no problem with being labelled as a fundamentalist’. Hanif categorically said that he believes in religion, Islam in the present case, and not in secularism.
Arguing that the Awami League should abandon the slogan of secularism, Hanif reportedly said that the party adopted the secularist slogan ‘as a tactical move’ in special political circumstances after the country’s independence in 1971, and ‘the party needs to change the principle to meet the demand of the time’.
Hanif reinforced his remarks the next day, when a couple more dailies confronted him over the issue.
Hanif’s observations have caused a lot of concern among the secularist section of the party, particularly among those belonging to the Hindu faith.
The party president, Sheikh Hasina, however, is learnt to have asked central leaders on Thursday night to refrain from making any public comment for or against Hanif’s observations.
‘The interpretation of secularism is clearly defined in the party constitution. If he (Hanif) has a different interpretation, he is free to put forward his opinion at the appropriate party forum,’ Suranjit Sengupta, a presidium member of the party, told New Age Friday evening.
‘Unless we get clarification of his statement at the party’s working committee meeting, I am unable to make further comment,’ Suranjit added.
But Mukul Bose, an organising secretary of the party, told New Age over telephone on Friday that Hanif should not have made such a public statement.
‘I will not make a detailed comment on the controversial statement. What I can only say at the moment is that he (Hanif) should not have made such a public statement,’ said Mukul. ‘We shall raise the issue at the next working committee meeting of the party.’
Osim Kumar Ukil, former general secretary of the party’s student front, the Bangladesh Chhatra League, and assistant publicity secretary of the party, refused to comment ‘at the moment’.
When contacted, some of the mid-ranking leaders, having left political backgrounds, preferred to remain tight-lipped.

http://www.newagebd.com/front.html#2

endofinnocence
September 24, 2005, 12:51 PM
ekatturerBangalee, you are doing a commendable job of exposing jamaat and co. but what about the others who are hidden in the society? Here's a story of jihadism fueled by state. link (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-fg-khan23sep23,0,3206976.story?coll=la-home-headlines)

imtiaz82
September 24, 2005, 01:19 PM
Dhaka urged to take lead in
upholding spirit of Islam
Regional seminar ends
STAFF CORRESPONDENT

A three-day regional Islamic seminar ended with the adoption of the Dhaka declaration on Saturday, calling upon Bangladesh to take the lead in Asia in upholding the spirit of Islam.
‘Bangladesh has set a model of a moderate Muslim country and it can take the leadership for waging a campaign to uphold the real spirit of Islam,’ according to the declaration of the seminar, titled Islam: Religion of Peace, Progress and Harmony.
Adopting the declaration unequivocally, the participants said there is no room for militancy or terrorism in Islam, which preaches peace and harmony for mankind and does not approve attack on innocent people to pursue any sort of objectives, even if religious.
Condemning the August 17 bomb blasts in Bangladesh, the 9/11 attacks in the United States and the 7/7 bomb attacks in Britain, it said, ‘The rights of oppressed Muslims cannot be established through the act of terrorism; rather it will severely frustrate the just causes of the Muslims.’
It said Bangladesh is a unique example of communal harmony which can be replicated in other countries, particularly in the Muslim ones.
Nearly 300 delegates representing madrassahs, mosques and religious institutions in Bangladesh, Pakistan, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, India and Sri Lanka participated in the seminar organised by the Dhaka-based Centre for National and Regional Studies.
‘We believe in jihad, but not with the involvement of bombs and deaths and not against the non-Muslims. This is a jihad against poverty; this is a jihad for development,’ said the vice-chancellor of the Dhaka University, SMA Faiz, who was the chief guest at the concluding session.
Professor MA Cader from Sri Lanka urged the Muslims across the world to update their knowledge about Islam through ‘ijtehad’ (decision taking independently on the basis of Quran and sunnah).
The vice-chancellor of the Southeast University, Shamsher Ali, opposed the identification of extremists as ‘fundamentalists’ and said, ‘Actually, the persons who believe in the fundamental principals of universal peace and brotherhood are fundamentalists’.
A former director general of the Islamic Foundation in Dhaka, Syed Ashraf Ali, said there were issues which were strikingly similar in all the major scriptures of different faiths.
Dr Hassan Mohammad of the Chittagong University said everything should not be ‘Islamised’ in the name of Islamisation of knowledge, saying that it might often contradict the basic and universal spirit of Islam.

http://www.newagebd.com/nat.html#2

Banglatiger84
September 24, 2005, 01:26 PM
"This is a jihad against poverty; this is a jihad for development"

"Professor MA Cader from Sri Lanka urged the Muslims across the world to update their knowledge about Islam through ‘ijtehad’ (decision taking independently on the basis of Quran and sunnah)"

:up:

ekatturerBangalee
September 25, 2005, 03:30 PM
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Faisal & Shammi

Kakrail Mosque was used to train Aug 17 bombers

The capital's Kakrail Mosque, widely regarded as the fulcrum of Tablig Jamaat, had been used to train the militants how to switch on the bombs that rocked the country on August 17...."

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/26/d5092601011.htm

ekatturerBangalee
September 26, 2005, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by nayeem007
Islam disapproves of terrorism
Scholars tell seminar in capital
Staff Correspondent

Leading Islamic scholars and thinkers from South and Southeast Asia yesterday denounced terrorism and destruction of life in the name of Islam or any religion in a continued bid to clear the Muslims of alleged involvement in such activities.

They said Islam disapproves of militancy, extremism, wars, disorder, hatred and all sorts of terrorism; it rather preaches and promulgates peace, progress, moderation, tolerance and harmony.

The very objective of Islam is to promote ethical values, while any act of violence causing deaths of innocent people or destruction of property frustrates the basic spirit of the religion, they added.

The scholars were speaking on the second day of a three-day regional seminar on "Islam: Religion of Peace, Progress and Harmony; Bangladesh: Model of a Moderate Muslim Nation" at the Bangladesh-China Friendship Conference Centre.

Organised by the Dhaka-based Centre for National and Regional Studies (CNRS), the seminar is being attended by Islamic scholars from Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Singapore and host Bangladesh.

The speakers said the Muslims usually react when there is injustice and disorder, but they never cross the limit as it is completely prohibited in the Holy Qur'an.

They claimed current struggles of the Muslims around the globe are for freedom, rights and establishing justice.

They also urged Islamic scholars and thinkers to identify ways and means to counter the strong propaganda of the western world against Islam, saying those who are accusing Islam are 'ignorant'.

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/24/d5092401033.htm

EDITORIAL: The Bangladesh Observer
Dhaka Declaration From Seminar On Islam

A three-day seminar participated by Islamic scholars from South and South-east Asia has come up with an eight-point declaration for the Muslim world. The seminar has roundly denounced religious extremism and recommended reform of madrasha education. Titled " Islam: Religion of Peace, Progress and Harmony; Bangladesh: Model of a Moderate Muslim Nation", the seminar did indeed identify how the image of Islam has been sullied and a few suggestions it put forward merit consideration for Muslim countries not only in the region but elsewhere as well. For example, if the suggestion for incorporation of science, mathematics, computer, environment, agriculture and technical education in madrasha curriculum gets the green light, things are likely to improve. The madrashas may not provide an easy recruitment field for religious extremism. Then the eagerness shown to see both men and women as equal partners of development through empowering the latter makes quite an impression.

The first part of the title of the seminar surely makes a strong case for itself. No argument about that. Sure enough, it has made a bold assertion that there is no place for intolerance and militancy in Islam. We could not agree more. In fact, the inherent message of all religions is peace, tolerance and love. Unfortunately, the aggressive or distorted brands of some of the great religions have been the cause of limitless bloodshed throughout centuries. The agents of religions have monopolised them. It is because of this, visionary political thinkers have been in favour of keeping politics and religion apart. If religion teaches complete submission to the Almighty, it can and should never interfere with anyone's personal belief or state politics.

Why try to paint a sovereign land as a Muslim. Hindu, Christian or Buddhist country? No highly developed, powerful and larger country would like to be known as a land of any particular faith.

It is because of this we feel not quite at ease with the last part, 'Bangladesh: Model of a Moderate Muslim Nation.'

It makes us confused and also it does not support facts. The country's constitution has nowhere mentioned that it is a Muslim country. The 8th amendment to the constitution brought about by military dictator Ershad has interpolated Islam as the state religion. Should it negate secularism—one of the fundamental principles of the original constitution? Do we give credence to a military dictator's pretence of religion? Religion was not his forte, her merely tried to bluff the religious minded.

The seminar then delivers a pat on the back of Bangladesh by terming it a model country of 'communal harmony' because its 'constitution recognises all citizens as equal'. We are familiar with this kind of ploy where religion is used as a means to achieving a narrow objective.

At a time Bangladesh has earned quite an infamy for the August 17 serial bomb attacks and their uncomfortable connection with religion-based parties, this seminar has deliberately diverted its focus from the main issues to the ones that touch—but not quite adequately—the sentiment of the people. The motive becomes clear when Bangladesh is endorsed as the model country to lead the Muslim world. We could not be happier if Bangladesh earned such a rare honour! Cleverly crafted words disguised the twin purpose of defending the Islamic militant parties and those at the helm of power. The lavish showering of eulogy on Bangladesh may have one simple purpose: to offset the negative image of the country under the alliance government. The condemnation of August 17 bomb attacks should have included all the preceding grenade and bomb attacks. Understandably, a seminar of this order tries to avoid being critical of the host country's government but there is not a word expressing concern over the rise of Islamic militancy in Bangladesh and the government's failure to deal with it. How does it deserve so much praise? More questions about the purpose of the seminar will be asked than can be answered

ekatturerBangalee
September 26, 2005, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by endofinnocence
ekatturerBangalee, you are doing a commendable job of exposing jamaat and co. but what about the others who are hidden in the society? Here's a story of jihadism fueled by state. link (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-fg-khan23sep23,0,3206976.story?coll=la-home-headlines)

Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan is a great scientist, IMHO. I will refrain from making any statement against the allegations. We are entering into a slippery slope here. So far as I am concerned, he has not done anything wrong to Bangladesh. Let the Pakistanis decide his credentials.

imtiaz82
September 27, 2005, 01:20 PM
Military finds no militant link of army men
Julfikar Ali Manik

A quick inquiry of the military intelligence has found no evidence for the allegations against retired and in-service army personnel of having any link with Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) or training its activists on bomb-making.

The situation arising out of the allegations against army men took a twist as the information provided by civil investigators about the statements of JMB activist Obaidullah Suman, his identification of retired army lance corporal Harun-ur-Rashid as a bomb-trainer, and Harun's information about the involvement of eight in-service army men in the training came under doubt.


Following the development, the military intelligence is about to investigate how, why and who provided the information about the army men's involvement in the August 17 bomb attacks that shook the whole nation.


Military sources said they are sure that Harun, arrested on information that he along with former honorary captain of the army Mohiuddin trained the JMB bomb squads, was not involved with the JMB, "let alone training them".


The information about former honorary captain of the ordnance factory Mohiuddin's involvement was also not proved as no Mohiuddin with this designation was found in the ordnance factory records.


"We've found one retired honorary captain with this name who was a clerk of the army engineering corps...He was merely a clerk and had no training in bomb," said a source in the army.


Although Mohiuddin did not match Suman's statement, the Directorate General of Forces Intelligence (DGFI) picked up clerk Mohiuddin, who hails from Kishoreganj, from Kachukhet in the capital a couple of days ago and interrogated him.


On being sure that he had no link with the banned militant organisation, the DGFI later released him.


Irked by Harun's alleged confession, which pointed finger at links of eight in-service defence personnel to the August 17 countrywide bomb blasts, the military intelligence forces launched their own facts-finding mission Thursday.


All intelligence units of the army, navy and air force, including the DGFI started the inquiry with the DGFI acting as co-ordinator. The government civil intelligence agencies also took part in the inquiry.


The DGFI also prepared a report on the findings, which they will submit to the authorities concerned soon, said sources.


After his arrest in Monipur on September 20, Harun confessed that he had trained JMB cadres on bomb-making and operation techniques and also named eight serving defence personnel as trainers of the JMB bomb squads, investigators in Kishoreganj said.


According to them, Obaidullah Suman, who is now in Kishoreganj jail, identified Harun at the Kishoreganj Police Station as their trainer.


Newspapers also carried reports with reference to the investigators that Harun named the eight military personnel as being involved with the August 17 attack.


Checking Harun's statement given to civil investigators and interrogating him, the military intelligence found that the lance corporal is not the 'Harun' referred to by Obaidullah Suman. "Suman does not know this Harun," said the army source.


Harun's statement also did not include anything that establishes links of any serving military personnel with the attack.


"The lance corporal [Harun] kept saying that he was in no way involved in the attack or with Jama'atul Mujahideen," said the source.


Harun was handed over to Kishoreganj police Monday and the court sent him to jail as police did not seek any fresh remand.


"This Harun is not the person Obaidullah Suman knows. We're still looking for the Harun mentioned by Suman," Sub-Inspector Waziullah of Kishoreganj Police Station, who is investigating Harun's role, told The Daily Star yesterday.


On the lance corporal's fate, he said, "It'll be decided in the course of the probe."

Although the military intelligence was sure that Harun did not name any military personnel in service, it received the names of a few military men from different sources who might be involved with the JMB.


"But the information and names were not specific. In spite of it, we conducted an inquiry but did not find any military personnel linked with the militants," said the military source.

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/28/d5092801033.htm

ekatturerBangalee
September 28, 2005, 09:42 PM
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Hunt for Islamist Militants

"...Law enforcers will soon launch a combing operation against Islamist extremists hiding in the Sundarbans since the August 17 countrywide serial bomb blasts. Meanwhile, law enforcement agencies yesterday arrested eight activists of Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB), which is blamed for the August 17 attacks, in Comilla and Joypurhat, and police attached the valuables of Jagrata Muslim Janata Bangladesh (JMJB) leader Bangla Bhai from his house in Bogra.

According to highly placed sources, 33 Islamist extremists of the banned JMB, JMJB, Ahle Hadith Andolon Bangladesh (Ahab) and Harkatul Jihad of Khulna division went into hiding in the Sundarbans after August 17.

State Minister for Home Affairs Lutfozzaman Babar at a views-exchanging meeting in the southern district on Tuesday directed three law enforcement agencies to crack down on the Islamist extremists and other outlawed parties and burst their dens, reports our Khulna correspondent...."

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/09/29/d5092901022.htm

imtiaz82
September 30, 2005, 01:07 PM
Indian and local criminals jointly staged Aug 17 blasts
BDR chief alleges as Delhi talks conclude
Pallab Bhattacharya, New Delhi

Bangladesh Rifles chief yesterday said some "criminal elements in India" had colluded with similar groups in Bangladesh to stage the August 17 countrywide blasts.

BDR Director General Maj Gen Jahangir Alam Chowdhury said this, speaking at a press conference at the end of three-day talks with his Indian counterpart in New Delhi.

The talks between the border guards of the neighbouring countries ended with divergent views reigning on issues like border fencing and cross-border infiltration. Both the sides, however, agreed on confidence building measures through stepping up of simultaneous and co-ordinated patrol along the border.

Indian Border Security Force (BSF) Director General RS Mooshahary said his force has suggested to BDR that it [BSF] would hand over to them a list of the areas requiring zero line fencing so that it can be approved by the Bangladesh government.

The question of fencing of the 4095-km border between the two countries remained unresolved with Bangladesh resisting India's move, contending that the fencing has "a defensive structure" attached to it.

"We want to conduct border-fencing at the level of zero-line due to topographical reasons. But BDR is opposed to it, saying that such fencing is "defensive in structure," Mooshahary told the joint press conference.

"We have decided to promote swap of training facilities, as well as cultural and sports exchanges," he added.

On cross-border infiltration, BDR stuck to its stance that there is no insurgent groups operating inside Bangladesh territory while BSF maintained insurgent leaders like Arvind Rajkhowa, Paresh Barua and Anup Chetia of ULFA, and Nayanbasi Jamatia and Bishwa Mohan Debbaram of National Liberation Front of Tripura are holed up in Bangladesh.

The BDR chief said it is in fact the criminals from India who had infiltrated into Bangladesh and in conjunction with local criminals perpetrated the serial blasts.

Mooshahary denied the allegation and said there was only one Indian among over 500 people arrested in Bangladesh after the bombings. The arrested Indian national named Niazuddin had been living in Bangladesh for the past 17 years, he added.

"It is known internationally that leaders of north-eastern insurgent groups like Barua and Chetia are in Bangladesh," he said.

On the issue of the killing of BSF officer Jewan Kumar allegedly by BDR along the border with Tripura in April this year, Chowdhury said an investigation by top Bangladeshi officials had exonerated his men from the charge.

Mooshahary expressed dissatisfaction with the investigation carried out by Bangladesh and insisted that BDR personnel shot the officer dead when he had crossed over the border unarmed for discussion with the Bangladeshi border guards.

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/10/01/d5100101033.htm

reverse_swing
October 1, 2005, 01:28 PM
Daily Star: Militant kingpin Mufti Hannan captured >> (http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/10/02/d5100201011.htm)

ekatturerBangalee
October 1, 2005, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by reverse_swing
Daily Star: Militant kingpin Mufti Hannan captured >> (http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/10/02/d5100201011.htm)

Interesting confession:

GOVERNMENT SHELTER?
"..After this government came to power, I appealed to the then home minister Altaf Hossain for mercy," Hannan, clad in a white T-shirt and check lungi, said as he was brought to reporters at Rab-1 office in Uttara.
"It is Moulana Mohiuddin (Madina editor) who mediated between me and the home minister and I submitted a petition through him to get my name erased from the attempt on Sheikh Hasina case."
Asked what the home minister had assured him, he said, "He assured me of staying in Dhaka and not to get frightened, and move freely until situation normalises."
"It was for his assurance that I did not think of fleeing the country," he added.
But before the home minister could do anything for his mercy, Altaf was made commerce minister, Hannan said, adding he was staying in Badda since then...."


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Great achievement by RAB.
Here is another story.


"..Mufti Mohammad Abdul Hannan, the mastermind of the assassination attempt on Sheikh Hasina and a key leader of Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami (HuJI), a banned Islamist outfit, was arrested by RAB.."


http://www.bangladeshobserveronline.com/new/2005/10/02/front.htm

Edited on, October 2, 2005, 3:29 AM GMT, by ekatturerBangalee.

ekatturerBangalee
October 2, 2005, 05:33 PM
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Mufti: Several ministers promised to save him from case for attempting to kill

“…Mufti Abdul Hannan yesterday told a court that the law enforcers were not supposed to arrest him as some influential ministers of the government had assured him that he would be exempted from the charge of attempting to kill Sheikh Hasina….”

“…Under interrogation by Rapid Action Battalion (Rab), Hannan yesterday confessed to planting 76-kg bomb at Kotalipara on July 20, 2000, but he did not elaborate on how he got involved in the plot…”
“…Hannan told Metropolitan Magistrate Kamrunnahar that he went to Pakistan for study in 1979 and later he visited some other countries also for study. He said he returned home in 1981. He went to Afghanistan in 1984 for military training….”
“…A student of Sarsina Madrasa in Barisal, Hannan studied in Deoband madrasa in India. After graduating from a madrasa in Karachi, he had joined the Afghan war against the former Soviet occupation. He was even wounded in a battle there. Returning home at 1995, he started organising the Harkatul Jihad….”

KHULNA
“…Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) cadre Shahidullah alias Lokman told Khulna police on Saturday that he along with five others had made bombs in the house of Saint Joseph school's teacher Abdul Hakim Gazi. He also said the bombs were used in the blasts at 13 spots across Khulna city on August 17.
"I detonated bombs on the compound of Khulna Judges' Court and left Khulna for Dhaka the following morning,"

RAJSHAHI
“…Suspected militant Akhtarul Alam was taken on a three-day remand. Akhtarul is suspected to have been channelling funds to Bangla Bhai's Jagrata Muslim Janata, Bangladesh and JMB….”

BOGRA
“…JMB bomb squad member Abdur Razzak, arrested on September 22 in Gabtoli, gave statement before a first class magistrate yesterday, confessing his involvement in the blasts in Bogra on August 17….”

SATKHIRA
“…Two JMB operatives arrested last week in Satkhira for suspected links to the countrywide blasts were placed on a three-day remand each yesterday. The arrested JMB activists Ashraf Ali Master of Tengra and Abdul Ahad of Baliadanga village in sadar upazila were shown arrested in a case filed with Sadar Police Station for the explosions….”

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/10/03/d5100301011.htm

ekatturerBangalee
October 2, 2005, 05:40 PM
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Editorial: The Bangladesh Observer

Hannan’s Arrest: What Next?

The arrest of one of the most wanted Islamist militants, Mufti Abdul Hannan is important on several counts. At the end of 2003, the Dhaka Divisional Speedy Tribunal found him guilty of masterminding the plot to assassinate former prime minister and now leader of the Opposition Sheikh Hasina and awarded him life term in absentia. Charge-sheets were submitted against him in several other bombing and arms cases. An Afghan war veteran, Hannan is the founder of Harkatul Jihad, a Pakistan-based militant outfit, in Bangladesh. So his arrest by all accounts looks to be the greatest ever success by the security agencies. We say this even after the police had to their credit the catch like Asadullah Galib, a professor of Arabic of the University of Rajshahi and the chief of Ahle Hadis Andolon, another Islamic outfit. Hannan has both the religious orientation and the guerilla and explosive training. He has been actively involved in the recruitment and training of militants.

More importantly, his arrest might lead to unravelling the mystery behind the August 17 countrywide bombing and earlier bomb and grenade attacks because he is thought to have coordinated the attacks along with Jamaatul Mujaheedin and Jagrata Muslim Janata chiefs Shaikh Abdur Rahman and Siddiqul Islam Bangla Bhai respectively. Already the Harkatul chief has exploded nothing short of an information bomb. He claims he maintained through monthly Madina editor Moulana Mohiuddin communication with former home minister and now commerce minister, Altaf Hossain Chowdhury. The minister assured him of 'no fear' and move freely. This assurance emboldened him to live in Dhaka and not to flee the country.

Does it make any sense? It surely does. Unless a terrorist of his calibre convicted for life imprisonment is provided shelter by powerful men, a man on the run cannot think of Dhaka as his refuge in his wildest dream. Sure enough, the master juggler of words who earned notoriety by commenting on the killing of a child in his father's lap on a rickshaw to the effect that Allah has claimed what is his property is going to deny the charge. Most likely the mediator will stand in his defence because both men's interest will meet at a point now. However, we cannot forget that the former home minister and the incumbent state minister for home have misled the nation for three and a half years. When the newspapers regularly published graphic reports on the rise of militancy, including the medieval brutality by Bangla Bhai, arms consignments getting into the country and the guerilla training conducted by the militant outfits, both have exhibited exaggerated enthusiasm to deny those. This continued even after the seizure of a truck-load of arms at Bogra and the biggest ever arms haul in several trucks at Chittagong jetty.

The denial game has not quite disappeared. Even the state minister for home is still not sure if there is existence of religious fundamentalism in the country. He said on Saturday at Chittagong circuit house his government is yet to figure out whether this poses a problem for the country. Naivety has its limit! This government is trying to cover up incidents proving embarrassing for it. Should they be considered from the embarrassment point of view? All this leads us to believe that the government has calculation other than the rest of the country would like it to have. The important issue is security of the country and its rescue from its slide into the hands of militants. Hannan's statement implicating Altaf Hossain should be probed into and if there is truth in it, the minister must be brought to justice. No one is above law and the country.

Edited on, October 2, 2005, 10:44 PM GMT, by ekatturerBangalee.

PoorFan
October 3, 2005, 02:31 AM
Last week I was in Dhaka and was able to read Ittefaq, Shangram, Inqilab etc. and I felt like ....

AL and BNP has brutally divided our country from TOP to BOTTOM into two pieces for a long long time. Now some religious political party are desperate to break this country in more pieces, in name of Islam and so called Islamic ummah. But our government is still working on eye washing the people by denying "existence of religious fundamentalism in our country"! or by saying "Terrorism does not exist in Islam"! or "Islam does not allow terrorism"! These are all political statement we understand that, but the reality is, terrorism does exist in most of the Muslim countries, and those people does call themselves as Muslim, no matter you call them so or not. If our government fail to bring those people to justice including the political people who directly or indirectly support them, we will lose our poor democracy near future for sure. To do that sincerely and effectively, I don't see other way but a strong coalition government with BNP and AL. The people who are supporting BNP and AL and arguing / blaming? each other, should think about this matter seriously.

btw, I am / was not a fan of any political party of Bangladesh.

ekatturerBangalee
October 3, 2005, 04:00 PM
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Militants strike again on courts

".. 2 killed in Laxmipur, Chandpur; Ctg judge escape narrowly as bombs hurled on him did not burst; 38 including judge, cop wounded; JMB leaflet found; 10 held..".

LAXMIPUR
"Two bombs went off one after another with big bangs on the ground floor of the district joint and sessions judge's court building at around noon..."

CHANDPUR
"A bomb went off in the courtroom of First Sub-Judge Dipen Dewan on the first floor of the Judge's Court at around noon...".

CHITTAGONG
"One Laltu, 18, hurled a bomb kept inside a thick and hollow HSC Test Paper of 2003, targeting Second Joint District Session Judge Dilzer Hossain at 11:45am. However, the bomb did not reach its target and hit the judge's desk, breaking the table-glass. As the bomb did not explode, Laltu tried to hurl a second bomb kept inside a geometry box while fleeing...".

CHUADANGA
"Two bombs exploded at a fish market in the town at 9:00pm Sunday night, leaving Shuk Chand, 60, an employee of an ice depot, badly injured...".

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/10/04/d5100401011.htm

ekatturerBangalee
October 4, 2005, 04:22 PM
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‘Hannan had link with cultural
function blasts’< http://www.newagebd.com/front.html#2>


Govt expresses concern
Intelligence report on JMB's 'suicide squad'


"..The high level of the Government has expressed deep concern over an intelligence report about the formation of 'suicide squad' of Jamm'at-ul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) for conducting massive bomb attack with devastating impact at any time in any part of the country...".

http://www.bangladeshobserveronline.com/new/2005/10/05/front.htm

ekatturerBangalee
October 7, 2005, 02:49 PM
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http://ittefaq.com/news.php?id=129996&sys=3

ekatturerBangalee
October 7, 2005, 02:53 PM
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http://www.prothom-alo.net/v1/newhtmlnews1/category.php?CategoryID=1&Date=2005-10-07&filename=07h1

ekatturerBangalee
October 7, 2005, 02:57 PM
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Gunmen for judges, security in courts

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/10/07/d5100701011.htm

ekatturerBangalee
October 7, 2005, 03:10 PM
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Top JMB operatives captured in Chandpur and Joypurhat . They plotted to kill judges at dist courts on Oct 3

http://independent-bangladesh.com/news/oct/07/07102005ts.htm#A1

ekatturerBangalee
October 7, 2005, 03:17 PM
Govt confused by minister’s alleged role in Hannan’s mercy plea

The government was again confused on Friday as a state minister and two BNP leaders were reportedly found involved in the efforts of Mufti Abdul Hannan, a militant kingpin, to manage mercy for him in four cases.
‘The reported involvement of two ministers in the mercy petition of Mufti Hannan has made us confused,’ a senior minister told New Age Friday evening.
The minister, also a policymaker of the government, made the remark when his attention was drawn to reports published in two Bangla daily newspapers.
The reports said the state minister for water resources, Gautam Chakraborty, who was also minister in charge of Gopalganj, the district BNP president Saifur Rahman Nantu and senior vice-president Maniruzzaman Pinu recommended that the mercy petition should be considered.
According to the reports, Hannan, a senior leader of the banned Islamist outfit Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami, filed a petition to the home ministry on November 17, 2002, for his mercy in four cases, filed against him on ‘political grounds.’
Altaf Hossain Chowdhury, then home minister, asked the committee concerned in the ministry to examine the petition.
The committee officials concerned, however, did not forward the file as the petitioner, Hannan, was in hiding. Gautam in the evening on Friday told New Age, ‘I cannot remember to have recommended a mercy petition for Hannan. But I am sure he never met me.’
The state minister said his signature might have been forged. ‘I will go to the home ministry on Sunday to verify whether the signature is genuine.’ ‘I might have recommended examining a petition if it had been forwarded to me or placed before me by local lawmaker or party leaders,’ he said.
‘Recommending examination of an issue does not mean that authorities concerned are bound to implement it,’ he said.
Hannan, arrested in Dhaka on October 1, told reporters he had contacted Maulana Muhiuddin Khan, editor of the monthly Madina, and former home minister Altaf Hossain Chowdhury to get relief from the cases under the arms and explosive acts.
Both Altaf and Muhiuddin denied their involvement with Hannan’s petition.
Hannan was convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment in an arms and explosive case.

http://www.newagebd.com/front.html#3

ekatturerBangalee
October 10, 2005, 04:25 PM
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http://ittefaq.com/news.php?id=130946&sys=3

Militants plan blasts to free arrestees
Harkatul threatens to blow up Khulna installations if Hannan not released

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/10/11/d5101101033.htm

ekatturerBangalee
October 11, 2005, 04:49 PM
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ekatturerBangalee
October 15, 2005, 02:17 PM
Minister’s Questionable Link

Editorial: The Bangladesh Observer

On October 8 and 9, the Rapid Action Battalion (RAB) launched successive drives to catch a most wanted man. On October 12 and 13, the same person accompanied Commerce Minister Altaf Hossain in the latter's car and participated in the BNP party programmes at Patuakhali. He even had no problem visiting various Durga pandals alongside the minister. Well, at the time of carrying out the search operation in his house by the RAB, nine of his associates were arrested. One of them had warrant against him and the rest were shown arrested under section 54 and sent to the court. He was lucky to escape arrest on both occasions.

How come a most wanted criminal accompanies a minister and also takes part in party programmes? Record however says that this is not for the first time that the commerce minister has been linked to such elements. When he was the home minister, newspapers published pictures of gangs with criminal records accompanying him or having their part in various functions he attended, including his visit to the residence of slain principal Gopal Muhuri in Sylhet. But it was the time when his government consistently denied any link with such elements or the Islamic militants. Now the situation has changed and the government has admitted that not the Opposition but Islamic fundamentalists are carrying out the bomb attacks. Mufti Hannan, the chief of Harkatul Jihad, after his arrest has even made the startling disclosure that he had approached the former home minister courtesy of Madina editor for mercy and the minister assured him there was no danger.

Old habit dies hard. The commerce minister is reluctant to give up his connections with questionable characters. It now becomes increasingly clear that the former home minister has compromised his position ever since his induction into politics on retirement from the air force. When he was removed from the portfolio of home, he is reported to have said that his new assignment in the commerce ministry was a promotion. It matters little if he considers it a promotion or not. What matters most is the integrity of men in positions like the one he holds. Much depends on the personal integrity, accountability and transparency of a minister. Only one minister with dubious links can give a government enough of a bad name. If there are several of them, the government ought to sink under its own weight.

Unfortunately, ministers charged with links with the Islamic militants do not feel they have the obligation to come clean on the charges. The government also does not ask them to step down and prove beyond any reasonable doubt their innocence. It is a strange situation. Far less serious charges brought against ministers cause heads rolling in countries where self-esteem and accountability are the signature mark of public positions. Here the attitude is that once elected, no scandal can uproot the holder of a portfolio. It is because of this, respect for law is at a low ebb. The high and mighty flout laws of the land with impunity and have no accountability to the people. Their double standard has been at the root of most of the social ills and encouraged the rise of the Islamic militants. No further proof is needed to bring Altaf Hossain and the likes of him to trial. He has abused his position and must stand trial. Or else, people will take it as a proof of some of the ministers' link with anti-social elements and Islamic militants. This also confirms the belief that the government does not want to come clean on the issue.

ekatturerBangalee
October 19, 2005, 03:12 PM
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Bomb materials found at mosque rest house

"...Police recovered huge quantities of bomb materials from the rest house of a mosque in Sylhet town, 21 hours into Tuesday's bomb attack on a judge in the district, while the Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) activist caught after the attack admitted to making the attack.

JMB activist Akhtar Hossain, who was caught by pedestrians immediately after he hurled a bomb on Divisional Speedy Trial Tribunal Judge Biplob Goswami in front of his residence, said in his confessional statement to a magistrate that he did it as part of the JMB's countrywide programme of attacking judges.

"I did it to establish the law of Islam and it is part of our jihad to establish Islam in Bangladesh," he said in the statement.......".

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/10/20/d5102001033.htm

ekatturerBangalee
October 19, 2005, 03:19 PM
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Hatebreed
October 19, 2005, 03:59 PM
I have always supported the RAB for capturing and punishing these criminals, terrorists and seizing thousands unlawful items including firearms, bombs, ammunition and drugs that had nearly tarnished our nation. At least the present government has done something worthy to fight crime in the country. I just hope RAB too does not give into corruption and keeps up their hard work.

ekatturerBangalee
October 24, 2005, 04:50 PM
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JMB member Mizanur Rahman Mukul, right, arrested at a boarding house in Faridpur yesterday. CDs and books, left, on warfare in Afghanistan, Kashmir and Chechnya and jihad seized from him.

Faridpur blast kingpin held
"...Police yesterday arrested a member of Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) with huge CDs on warfare and jihad along with letters written in Arabic in Faridpur. Police said the arrestee, Mizanur Rahman Mukul alias Moabia, 30, coordinated bombings at eight spots in Faridpur on August 17...".

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/10/25/d5102501033.htm