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Sham
April 17, 2003, 02:16 AM
South Africa won the toss and elected to bat first.

Three changes for Bangladesh, Sanwar in for Golla, Selim in for Pilot and Monju in for Aziz.

Edited on, May 9, 2005, 1:06 PM GMT, by radicalsami.

Sham
April 17, 2003, 02:17 AM
Tapash strikes with the last ball of his first over. Excellent over ends with the superb wicket of Gibbs. Great start for Bangladesh.

bd_cricket
April 17, 2003, 02:39 AM
didn't understand this change.

Sham
April 17, 2003, 02:50 AM
Read the thread titled "Bombshell: Pilot dropped"

South Africa 47 for 1 after 10 overs. Tapash got hit a bit but Monju is steady as ever. The fielding however has been very good, led by Kapali at point.

[Edited on 17-4-2003 by Sham]

Sham
April 17, 2003, 03:29 AM
SA are 97 for 1. We need to get some wickets now.

Sham
April 17, 2003, 03:38 AM
Clean bowled by Sanwar for 67! Good stuff by BD. SA 106 for 2 after 23.

Sham
April 17, 2003, 04:01 AM
SA are 131 for 2. Rudolph is on 49 and Dippenaar is on 10.

Sham
April 17, 2003, 04:06 AM
Caught and bowled brilliantly by Kapali for 16. SA are 143 for 2 in 31.4 overs.

DOORBIN
April 17, 2003, 04:14 AM
Maybe it is today
Our lucky day

Looks like it's going to be about 230 by SA.

DOORBIN
April 17, 2003, 04:20 AM
"We HAVE TO win today"

That's what the 11 Bangladeshi cricketers are thinking at the moment. This is exactly the way they will be thinking on 6th August in Darwin, Australia.

"WE GOT TO WIN THIS ONE"

Attitude counts.
Attitude make all the difference.
Oh yeah

Sham
April 17, 2003, 04:33 AM
caught at mid on trying to force the run rate against Kapali for 12. SA are 174 for 4 after 37.5.

shahid
April 17, 2003, 04:43 AM
Doorbin,

Nice to see someone agreeing with me and optimistic. I am :)

Sham
April 17, 2003, 04:51 AM
South Africa are 183 for 4!

Sham
April 17, 2003, 04:53 AM
Caught behind brilliantly by Selim off Sanwar for a well made 81. We have to finish off the tail now. SA are 194 for 5 after 42!

Sham
April 17, 2003, 05:19 AM
Khaled Mahmud completely screwed things up by bringing himself on for the 48th over. He had bowled 3 overs before this for 20, and he has just been hit for another 20 in the over. So he has given away 40 runs in 4 overs. With Monju, Tapash and Sanwar all with overs left to bowl, this was an absolutely terrible decision to bring himself back on.

It seemed at one stage that SA would score around 240 maximum. Now they are on 243 with 8 balls still to go.

Sham
April 17, 2003, 05:25 AM
Again, we gave away 20 runs too many in the slog overs. Actually, the last 5 overs cost us 53 runs, thanks to a 20 run over by Khaled Mahmud. With better bowler management, we should have kept them to under 250.

James90
April 17, 2003, 05:34 AM
I predict BD will be all out for 90

Sham
April 17, 2003, 05:34 AM
Monju, Kapali and Rafiq were the best bowlers for Bangladesh today with figures of 0 for 38, 2 for 40 and 0 for 42 respectively off their 10 overs. Sanwar bowled well as well, picking up two wickets for 40 off his 8. Tapash picked up the early wicket of Gibbs but then got tonked around for 57 off his 8 overs. Sujon bowled 4 overs for 40.

Sanwar should have been kept on for another over, and then Monju and Tapash should have bowled the last four overs. Replacing Sanwar with Monju in the 46th over was plain stupid. Sanwar should have bowled the 46th, and then Tapash 47th and 49th and Monju 48th and 50th. And we could have easilly avoided that 20 run over. Sanwar was doing just fine, giving away 6 or 7 an over.

None of our captains know how to handle our bowlers in the slog overs. All of them manage to screw it up somehow.

Sham
April 17, 2003, 05:38 AM
Once again, if we can bat 50 overs, I'll be happy. If we do manage to bat 50 overs, chances are, we will score more than 200. Bowling was very impressive till the last 5 overs. Actually, there were just two bad overs where SA got 35 runs. And the ground fielding I would say was pretty good, especially Kapali, who is proving that he is right up there with the best in the world at the gully/point area.

DOORBIN
April 17, 2003, 06:01 AM
That's how the Bangladeshi players are thinking at the moment.

Although chances were a lot better last night, however, our cricketers will do their best.

Habibul_fan, please don't underestimate the team. Keep watching to see 2 Bangla half centuries. One by Mehrab, the other one I am not sure yet, possibly Akram Khan.

Shahid, you and I are real fighters. People like us are WINNERS, no matter what. I know, reality is on the opposite direction - so what?

WINNERS ARE ALWAYS WINNING!!!

James90
April 17, 2003, 06:14 AM
If your such winners how come BD hasn't one a game for 4 years???

James90
April 17, 2003, 06:14 AM
If your such winners how come BD hasn't won a game for 4 years???

James90
April 17, 2003, 06:17 AM
C'mon Gibbs, Harris, Ponting, Hayden they're all brilliant in gully/point i haven't seen Kapali field though so i can't say

shishir
April 17, 2003, 06:38 AM
one of the commentators was saying, "....what a cricketer he is gonna be - he's already!......"etc. etc.

just after saw his superb fielding once.

DOORBIN
April 17, 2003, 06:50 AM
That was a good question H_fan.

You invest $100,000 and start a business today. How much money will you make in the 1st year or 2nd year?

You need to have some patience. Just need to see the OVERALL pattern. Is it a winning pattern or a losing pattern?

Now you tell me.

Ehsan
April 17, 2003, 06:56 AM
We gonna lose badly...SA posted 264/5 .... Bangladesh are 19/2 in 8 overs....

Sham
April 17, 2003, 06:56 AM
Yeah, that is exactly what we are trying to do. Set targets which are realistic and achievable. How does saying that we will win everytime we take the field help anyone? I think its better to set our own targets which we can get to so the players feel a sense of achievement when we do get to them rather than feeling like they failed everytime we lose, which is every game we play.

Sham
April 17, 2003, 06:57 AM
WE are in a terrible state. We need to build some partnerships and play out 50 overs. Bashar got a bad decision I think.

DOORBIN
April 17, 2003, 07:10 AM
H-fan,

Maybe your prediction will come true tonight.

"Such things happen in cricket".....

shahid
April 17, 2003, 07:43 AM
BD 44/4 in 18.4

Check out my post in my thread. I have become a bit realistic now.

bd_cricket
April 17, 2003, 08:15 AM
26.5 Hall to Khaled Mahmud, OUT: outside the off, much too wide to be
gone after, but Mahmud is frustrated now at the mounting required
run-rate, slashing at it and giving Boucher a good catch diving to
his right

bd_cricket
April 17, 2003, 08:33 AM
31.6 Adams to Sanwar Hossain, OUT: and Adams strikes! Sanwar tries to
turn this one to the onside, the ball turns sharply across the bat
and gets the leading edge, spooning abck to Adams for a
comfortable catch

Bangladesh 104/6, Partnership of 20
Sanwar Hossain c & b Adams 9 (20b 1x4 0x6)

bd_cricket
April 17, 2003, 08:49 AM
36.3 Rudolph to Alok Kapali, two runs, on the pads, full toss, and
Kapali clips that away to midwicket to get to his fifty

bd_cricket
April 17, 2003, 08:52 AM
38.1 Rudolph to Alok Kapali, two runs, Kapali advances down the track
and lofts it high in the air trying to clear long on, but the ball
is mistimed and luckily for Kapali is dropped by Dippenaar in the
deep cover region


He should go for his maiden 100

rafiq
April 17, 2003, 08:54 AM
was that just a run out that they didn't give?

was wondering about selim's batting until that 4 just now.

rafiq
April 17, 2003, 08:57 AM
even with the as-usual batting performance today, one 50 puts us close to a decent total. it could have still been a reachable target, even now with only ten overs left, had mahmud not screwed up in the last 5 overs of the SA innings.

rafiq
April 17, 2003, 09:01 AM
pollock will finish us off.

selim vs mashud? we need to discuss this in more depth. I think mashud would have kept his end up for a few more overs against pollock and ntini

rafiq
April 17, 2003, 09:21 AM
wish our team would practise rotating the strike, batting at the death, etc. kapali cannot even get the strike.

Ehsan
April 17, 2003, 10:01 AM
I would definitely say that was a big mistake from the team management ro drop Javed. He should get a few chances. Javed is much better than Sanwar in terms of batting techniques. I don't understand why did the BCB do that. Moreover, Javed is more commitiing than Sanwar.

Ehsan
April 17, 2003, 10:03 AM
Salam to Kapali..

Kapali gets his 71 after a long time. He did a very good job to bring the target less than 100.

Ehsan
April 17, 2003, 10:06 AM
Well the match is over now.

Bd lose by 93 runs.

South Africa 261/5 (50 ov)
Bangladesh 168 (49.0 ov)

rafiq
April 17, 2003, 10:10 AM
it cannot be easy being a bangladesh selector, to give them some credit. it's not like they are having to choose between world class players. most of these guys are not qualified to play at this level, it's going to make very little difference if it is javed or sanwar since no one is consistent from one day to the next

Ehsan
April 17, 2003, 10:27 AM
To get a consistent performance a player needs to be in the side regularly.

Are we doing that???

Check out other players who are very consistent, they are taken in the team for every match. IF sometime they produce some bad performance that doesn't effect the decission of the selectors.

How can our players be consistent when they dropped after a bad performance and thats why they are not picking up the confidence. They always have fear of something in their mind when they go down to play except Ashraful who's is very confident.

Those players whom we know have the ability to perform and was in form in the domestic cricket should be included in the team for most of the tournament matches. They must be given some chances.

[Edited on 17-4-2003 by ehsan]

Ehsan
April 17, 2003, 10:32 AM
When is our tests against SA is starting?? Wt date??

Tehsin
April 17, 2003, 10:34 AM
Given enough time, Kapali will turn into a world class player. Same goes for Ashraful. They not not be Tendulkar or Lara's but they don't have to be.

I was surprised to see Tareq with the ball in the earlier matches, he had a less then memorable league and he only think I can think of is that the BCB selectors were using this tournament as a test ground - if so, they did a good job. They tried out a fw combinations.

Imran Sarwar is 5 times better then Mohsin Kamal - why Lobby picked Mohsin (to please the PCB boss of course) is beyond me. Either they get a world class coach or let local coaches/players do the coaching. No point hiring folks like Mohsin who don't even have any solid club coaching experience in their resume.

Hope we had done better but given our recent performance (World Cup), I see a slight ray of hope. Atleast now I can bet that we can beat Canada (unless that Australian has other plans) 5 times out of five. (Lowered expectations - before the world cup, I would have picked Kenya, now have to be happy beating Canada).

bd_cricket
April 17, 2003, 10:51 AM
I was thinking that Kapali will get the man of the match award because of his all-round performance (batting, bowling & fielding).
Ashraful's man of the match award in the first match with SA drove me hoping for this. But unlucky Kapali - couldn't impress Clive L. over Shaun Pollock.

Orpheus
April 17, 2003, 10:52 AM
Tehsin Bhai, you bring a very good point here. I think we should keep Imran as an assisstant coach. Let the foreighner teach the players technique but Imran is needed for the communication. Basically Imran can set up the expectations straight and the mild Jharis if not met. Most of our cricketers probably don't understand English - so I think communication is a big issue here.

So instead of having a bowling coach and a batting coach like many of you have suggested - I would rather go with a foreign whatever coach for the technique but Imran for kicking a$$

Kapali got the mentos playmaker of the day! for his all-round performance - so he should be happy!!! Just made 2 + G :D Finally money is going to our players! Feels good!

[Edited on 17-4-2003 by Orpheus]

Sham
April 17, 2003, 12:09 PM
I agree with Orpheus. Even when we do get a foreign coach, I think we should keep Imran in the national fold as assistant coach. I think that would be a good idea. As for specialist batting or bowling coaches, I don't think we need them on a full time basis. But it might be a good idea to bring different people in form time to time for workshops like we did with Roberts.

As for Kapali, an excellent all-round performance. 2 for 40 off ten overs, 71 runs and he saved about 15 runs on the field. Inspirational stuff. Hats off to him.

Arnab
April 17, 2003, 01:45 PM
Where did you guys actually see the match? On the internet?

Sham
April 17, 2003, 01:54 PM
BTV on Homeview.

rafiq
April 17, 2003, 03:58 PM
arnab, i swa it on willowtv.com on the pc. it was 30 bucks for the tournament or 15 per game. someone said dish carried it as well for the same fee.

James90
April 17, 2003, 04:16 PM
I went to get at 4/46 and woke up with them scoring 168.....once again Kapali was the saving grace and if Pilot were their they would have faced out the 50

Since both Javed and Sanwar are in such horrid form and shoot me for saying this but maybe Aminul or Nannu could play

I think Tushar's the more logical option

Ehsan
April 17, 2003, 05:42 PM
You have a point James. I think James is right. But we should give Javed one more chance. Javed should play in this test as he's very patient with the bat.

If Javed fails we should bring up Tushar to replace him and not Sanwar again. He was given many chances.

But still Sanwar may be considered for his bowling over Tushar but not over Javed.

[Edited on 17-4-2003 by ehsan]