Alok Kapali slams 121 not out.

[Beamer]

Batting for Sylhet, Kapali slammed a stroke filled 121 not out ( 18 fours ! ) to bail his team out of a difficult situation. Signs of good things to come ? We only hope and pray that he will continue to build on this to reclaim his spot. Say whatever you want to say about him and he surely has left the door open for the detractors with his indifferent prolonged lack of form, but, when on song, very few in BD cricket can play like him. Good luck Kapali.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Edited on, November 28, 2005, 5:34 PM GMT, by AsifTheManRahman.

[Ehsan]

I hope he keeps the runs coming in domestic level and he will surely earn a place in the national. Its no more 1-2 century to get a place in the team, its the consistency that he needs. I am happy for his century, hope that brings his form back. Good luck boy!

[BanCricFan]

Congrats to Alok for his MAIDEN first-class century!
Hope there are a few more to come from him this season. Also a huge cheer goes to our none-other-than J.O for his centuries in both innings!:up:

[Fazal]

Good for Alok. Hope he continue performaing like this. The more selectable players we have, the better position we will be in as a team.

I only hope they don't bring him in too early after one good innings.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally posted by Fazal
I only hope they don't bring him in too early after one good innings.

arey beshikkhon opekkha korte hobe na...ektu por e dekhben ekta thread khule felbe - "Alok Kapali should be back in place of Bashar"..

anyways, i think kapali has the ability to become the best batsman in Bangladesh, if he can ever recover his lost form, i.e. anyone who's watched him play will know how brilliant he is.

[billah]

Alok & his false advertising, there should be a rule against it :)

[Rubu]

If alok is 50% of what fans believe he is, he will be back. no, let me take that back.

if alok is 50% of what fans believe he is, he would have been back by now. he is out of form since i joined BC.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally posted by Rubu
if alok is 50% of what fans believe he is....

see...that's the thing :) he isn't good anymore, but he used to be. i take back what i said about him being brilliant. i should've said "...how brilliant he <b>was</b>" to get the wording right :)

i don't see a place for alok beyond the A team any time soon. there are players who are performing better and more consistently than he is.

[tpusltn]

Congrats to kapali. Let's hope he does lots of 50's & 100's this years league. And gets his old form back.

We know he is gifted. So we can replace Ashraful with Alok Kapali.

[sadi]

I am not saying Alok should be back... but I don't think any Bangladeshi batsmen are performing consistently anyways.... however I strongly believe he should spend more time in domestic cricket and this time when he comes back, he should be back for good

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally posted by sadi
but I don't think any Bangladeshi batsmen are performing consistently anyways....

well, it all depends on how you define consistency. if you look at the international stats of the national team players over the last year or so, you'll see that they have somewhat better stats compared to kapali, who has been struggling even as a part of inferior XI's, against inferior attacks.

[tpusltn]

Ashraful is about to be dropped from the Test & possibily from the ODI. If he continues to perfom poorly in the league.

Kapali and Ashraful will find it difficul to return in the national team. Because, lots of new kids are knocking the door.

[AsifTheManRahman]

i don't understand ashraful's problem...he's so full of talent, and yet fails to score big even in the domestic leagues. amader 10 lakh taka daamer kheloar ei rounde dabbao marse...shundor ekta haash dhore niye ashche cricket maath theke...

the under 19's are really giving rise to a lot of hope. i hope we nurture them properly this time, so that they don't go astray like the likes of ash and kapali. however, in order to ensure that the young lads can perform without any tension - and thereby settle down as permanent members - a few from the current bunch will have to develop their game so that they can provide sufficient supervision and backing to the cubs once they are seasoned enough.

Edited on, November 28, 2005, 8:51 PM GMT, by AsifTheManRahman.

[Mon]

As a die hard alok fan, it feels nice to see him back in form. I hope this can pave the way for his inclusion in the national team!



Edited on, November 28, 2005, 9:33 PM GMT, by Mon.

[Ishtylish cricketer]

It's good to see Kaps perform but really we should congrats JO for scoring centuries in both innings! Kaps is good no doubt but he needs to consistantly score runs to be part of the BD team. Also guys, Kaps came in the BD team as a leg spinner not as a batsman right now he's regarded as a batsman only... it will take time for him to be consistant... but reall there should be a thread for JO's amazing performance.

[Fazal]

Ya... I am not a JO fan, but I have to admit, JO deserve more attention from us for his 2 centuries in one match.

[cricket_pagol]

Congrats to Alok... hopefully he will carry on this form and get back to the national team.

Good to see Rajin doing pretty well this season, he will be our star performer this season.

Ahsraful's performance has been such a downer this season... may be he only plays his best against the best team in the world (his 100 against AUS)!!!!!!!!!

[sadi]

well thats not a good excuse....... he should start scoring runs consistently and make that his habit...... the problem with him is that.... he shows off too much when he gets out to bad and don't give the bowlers their due respect

[Fazal]

I think Ash is protesting against low salary in NCL by not scoring any runs. He is saving all his runs for Sonargaon Cricketers for the club tournament.

[cricket_pagol]

Originally posted by Fazal
I think Ash is protesting against low salary in NCL by not scoring any runs. He is saving all his runs for Sonargaon Cricketers for the club tournament.

This makes sense, Ash can only score a certain number of runs in a period of time. The low NCL salary is not worth Ash's runs... he better save his runs for the guys who pay him more. I am scared that Ash will try to prove us wrong by scoring poorly for sonargaon aslo!!!!

[CricTiger]

One good innings after a zelion of years and new thread has born.

What can I say about Kapali .


-First ever test hattrick bowler for BD?
-Wasted talent

And very soon we will get another thread in favor of his induction of the National team.

When do we learn from our mistakes ?

[James90]

Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
see...that's the thing :) he isn't good anymore, but he used to be. i take back what i said about him being brilliant. i should've said "...how brilliant he <b>was</b>" to get the wording right :)

I struggle to see how a cricketer of his age can lose brilliance so suddenly. I'd put it down to a lack of form and a glitch in his technique that was found out at the highest level.

[thebest]

if alok has a thread for a scoring a century what JO done wrong. He have 2 centruries and only consistent performer of national team. He is as talented as me as a cricketer. Unfortunately I did not realize cricket would be so popular in a decade time. If Bangladesh did not play test cricket, few would have heard his name. He is worse than Rokon - the duck master. end of story.

Edited on, November 29, 2005, 1:22 AM GMT, by thebest.

[al Furqaan]

i have never seen alok play.

how talented is he compared to ashraful???

and does he have the ability to single handedly punish bowling attacks like ashraful?

what is his style of batting? is it all pretty like ash's?

[Sauron]

I have watched most of the matches that Alok played in. My overall impression about him is that he can be a really stylish and prolific batsman on a docile pitch against fast bowling, or a hard pitch against spin.

The best thing about his style of play (in his initial good days) was that he wasn't intimidated by fast bowling, unlike most other Bangladeshi players. But he is not comfortable at all against even mediocre spin.

Only my personal opinion, i.e. not an expert opinion.

[fab]

Originally posted by thebest
He is worse than Rokon - the duck master. end of story.
Who is worse than Rokon?

Alok, Hannan and Ash were the most promising young batsmen when they came to Australia in 2003 and lets not forget that Alok was amongst the one or two saving graces in that dreadful WC series.

[CricTiger]

Originally posted by al Furqaan
i have never seen alok play.

how talented is he compared to ashraful???

and does he have the ability to single handedly punish bowling attacks like ashraful?

what is his style of batting? is it all pretty like ash's?
He was a bowler.
Then became a good bat .
Took the first test hattrick for us against PAK.
Then he became a good allrounder .
Then everything started falling apart.
Management tried him in every possible possitions to keep him in the team nothing worked out for him.
And for past 1 and half years may be more he is out from the team.
So far I know his techniques are very good and solid but somehow he lost his touches.Even VIV RICHARD praised him on one occassion for his bat.

[shaoun]

alok got more chances to stay in the national team then anyone. since 2003 against pakistan he didnt have any good score with the bat. he failed each and everytime he played for the national team until he got dropped on england series. he got chances to do something with the a-team and he hasnt done anything even for the a-team. last NCL he showed some promise as he did decent with the bat and with the ball. but nothing so good that the selecters can bring him back. i mean farhad reza al shariar golam rahman had better league then he did. alok didnt do anything special in this years corporate league. he was a flop on the first match and finally he scored 121 against chitagong. SO WAT. javed omar scored back to back century. last year shaheen ahmed scored back to back century. scoring a century doesnt mean anything. as you can see that i am not a fan of alok because he got too many chances. hannan rokon they didnt get even quarter of the chances alok got.

[Sauron]

Originally posted by shaoun
alok got more chances to stay in the national team then anyone. since 2003 against pakistan he didnt have any good
...
...
didnt get even quarter of the chances alok got.

Hey Bhai,
Are you sure that you are not me? May want to make sure with Fazal.
Here is a thread that almost says that you are me! (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/viewthread.php?tid=14879)

[thebest]

Originally posted by fab
Originally posted by thebest
He is worse than Rokon - the duck master. end of story.
Who is worse than Rokon?

Alok, Hannan and Ash were the most promising young batsmen when they came to Australia in 2003 and lets not forget that Alok was amongst the one or two saving graces in that dreadful WC series.

Even considering WC he is worse than Rokon. Rokon at least can bully the weak opponent, Can Alok do that? Alok is all style no substance. Rokon is better than Alok. Here is their stat from test. Except againest Pak, SL and WI, Rokon has better average than Alok for every other country.

T Run H Av 100 50
Alok Kapali 16 559 85 18.03 0 2
Rokon 15 683 71 22.76 0 4

First Class Match
M I NO Run Hi Av 100 50
Kapali 50 88 3 1678 85 19.74 0 9
Rokon 45 83 3 2383 128* 29.78 3 14

Now who is better? The stat does not include this year NCL. But still could answer the Kapali Fan Club

[Dhakablues]

Its just another century by an ex-National team player. Theres lot of cricket between now and the next selection. And no,,I dont think any U19 players are gonna be promoted to national team in near terms. The selectors have a good alternative in respect to Batsmen, Bowlers. Albeit, we dont have an off-spinner but other than that,,, Alok has a long way to go to be in the national team.

[PoorFan]

:great: for Alok! He just ensured his place for next game, and of course for Sylhet!

[Fazal]

Originally posted by Sauron
Hey Bhai,
Are you sure that you are not me? May want to make sure with Fazal.
Here is a thread that almost says that you are me! (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/viewthread.php?tid=14879)

:D this time I am more alert.

<b>"Of old there was Sauron the Maia..." </b>really helps me to distinguish between the two of you.

[sadi]

There is no point arguing who is better Alok or Rokon. Both are very attacking batsman and both failed for the national team. However, I am a Alok fan and will love to see him score some runs consistently.

[GuruTM]

Ok, Ok i will open two threads on JO now. And one thread will not stop because JO's second century was a not out. Only one century, there you go............
He is this, he is that...........
Go and check Inzamam's first class record before being picked to play for pakistan.

[Ishtylish cricketer]

Guys debating about Kap's ability and comparing them to other players seem to be by far the most favourite topic of everyone in this forum. We should cut the crap and get with the fact that both were good players well in case of Kaps he has many more years to play but one thing for sure Kaps sometimes makes the thread for the wrong reasons. I like Kaps as a batsman but we must remember that in Bangladesh there are very few players who are consistent and since he came in the team as leg spinner we should really allow him to develop and mature as a batsman. As for Rokon, he too got many opportunities but failed to deliver but Kaps even though considered at first to be a bowler steped in the WC. It would be in the best interest of bd if both of them can return to good form or find someone at least can be the go to guy. I don't care who it is or how he plays as long as he gives us the runs.

[akabir77]

more good palyer better for bd team.. congrats Alok.. keep it up.. score more hunders now...

[AsifTheManRahman]

he did a good job taking his 121 to a 156. we need scores like these in the ncl :up:

[sadi]

is there any double hundred in ncl in last couple of years? Whats the highest individual score?? anyone knows?

[Mon]

as far as i know, Golam Rahman Himel scored 160 last year. Anybody else scored higher than that?

[AsifTheManRahman]

yup. there was bashar with a 224 for biman, and pilot with a 201*. there have also been other instances of double tons from bangladeshi batsmen abroad (tushar imran, for eg). i can't stretch my memory any further.

[AsifTheManRahman]

ok let me give this another shot. i think imran farhat from pakistan also had a double in one of his matches in the NCL.

[TheWatcher]

Double century? Nazimuddin (Ctg) had scored one last season.

[Ishtylish cricketer]

Despite the stubborness towards hooking anything short when in form Habibul Bashar is Bd's best batsman without any doubt it's just that as a captain he's got to be more reliable that's all. He needs to get his average from 30 odd to 40 in tests and in ODI's he should at least average in the 30s. Habs is a decent player i think compared to most of the Bdeshi batsmen. Agree that he lacks styles and grammar but he more than makes up for it with his powerful cuts and hooks and most importantly with runs.

[sadi]

still waiting to see runs for our star batsmen. I wonder why they are so flop in ncl. They cant score runs in international level and now they cant score runs in domestic level either. Only exception is JO. :yawn:

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally posted by sadi
still waiting to see runs for our star batsmen. I wonder why they are so flop in ncl. They cant score runs in international level and now they cant score runs in domestic level either. Only exception is JO. :yawn:

actually, they ARE scoring, except ash and aftab. it's just that they are either scoring too fast or too slow, and getting out after scoring half centuries that is unsatisfactory.

[jabbar]

who cares if Kapali hit 121... let's see if he can do it against decent opposition

[sadi]

well the problem with him is not quality but consistency. He already scored against quality opposition like WI and pakistan. All we need is for him to get back his form.

Btw, Ctg is quite decent opposition.

Edited on, November 30, 2005, 9:24 PM GMT, by sadi.

[Rubu]

Originally posted by jabbar
who cares if Kapali hit 121... let's see if he can do it against decent opposition
I'm not sure you can see that! to be able to see how he does against quality opponents, kapali has to get a chance to play against them. i don't think he is getting that anytime soon.

[shovon13]

Originally posted by Rubu
Originally posted by jabbar
who cares if Kapali hit 121... let's see if he can do it against decent opposition
I'm not sure you can see that! to be able to see how he does against quality opponents, kapali has to get a chance to play against them. i don't think he is getting that anytime soon.

jeeze

[sadi]

well lets wait till he cracks couple more hundreds and then maybe we can talk abt him.....

[jabbar]

Originally posted by sadi
well the problem with him is not quality but consistency. He already scored against quality opposition like WI and pakistan. All we need is for him to get back his form.

Btw, Ctg is quite decent opposition.

Edited on, November 30, 2005, 9:24 PM GMT, by sadi.

No, I'm afraid Ctg are not decent opposition... c'mon, let's get real here.... scoring a century in NCL is a bare minimum for intl. consideration. Basically, you need to score a century every 2-3 innings in NCL if you want to be true intl. standard. One century by Kapali in a blue moon doesn't cut it for me. Kapali's career is still on hold guys, accept it.

[jabbar]

Originally posted by Rubu
Originally posted by jabbar
who cares if Kapali hit 121... let's see if he can do it against decent opposition
I'm not sure you can see that! to be able to see how he does against quality opponents, kapali has to get a chance to play against them. i don't think he is getting that anytime soon.

you got me there on a technicality! Haha! Quite right, quite right....

Well, players like Kapali can probably be given one-offs in some ODIs, but as for Tests...... not until they can prove in ODI.

I dunno, perhaps tour matches when other teams come and tour BD.

Edited on, December 1, 2005, 10:35 PM GMT, by jabbar.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally posted by jabbar
No, I'm afraid Ctg are not decent opposition... c'mon, let's get real here.... scoring a century in NCL is a bare minimum for intl. consideration. Basically, you need to score a century every 2-3 innings in NCL if you want to be true intl. standard. One century by Kapali in a blue moon doesn't cut it for me. Kapali's career is still on hold guys, accept it.

i agree with what you said about players having to crack a century every 2/3 matches. hitting a 60 or a 70 every now and then in the ncl shows that you're far away from being fit for international cricket (bashar excepted); because if you're going to do well in test/odi's, you're gonna have to learn to smack mediocre first class opponents at your free will.

unfortunately, not many of our national team members have that ability. the difference between our national and A team is very thin, and that's not because we have so many quality players (like Australia), but because all the players we have lack consistency.

we will start bagging wins more consistently once a situation arrives where one of the criteria for considering a player for the national team will be how well he can do what javed did in the previous round, and how often he can repeat it.

[sadi]

Originally posted by jabbar
Originally posted by sadi
well the problem with him is not quality but consistency. He already scored against quality opposition like WI and pakistan. All we need is for him to get back his form.

Btw, Ctg is quite decent opposition.

Edited on, November 30, 2005, 9:24 PM GMT, by sadi.

No, I'm afraid Ctg are not decent opposition... c'mon, let's get real here.... scoring a century in NCL is a bare minimum for intl. consideration. Basically, you need to score a century every 2-3 innings in NCL if you want to be true intl. standard. One century by Kapali in a blue moon doesn't cut it for me. Kapali's career is still on hold guys, accept it.

well I guess you missed my point... the point is we already know he can score against quality opposition.... the problem with him is consistancy...... ofcourse a score in a blue moon will not cut it for him.... he gota score regularly thats pretty obvious... he got the talent.... just cant score runs regularly and thats why he is out of the team and rightly so