Who should be the ODI Opening Batsmen?

[al Furqaan]

Who should be the batting openers in ODIs? I will assume the candidates are Javed Omar, Shahriar Nafees, Nafees Iqbal, and Rajin Saleh. Rajin is there since he did well as an opener in the few matches he played there.

Also since all are RHB except Shahriar, and since he has teh highest average and decent SR (65%) he is a lock for one position.

[al Furqaan]

i vote for JO and abir.

JO because, when in form he is guranteed for a decent score. Now i admit he is the slowest batsmen we have, but if he can anchor...with 5 or 6 wickets in the last 10 overs guys like ash, aftab, rafiq, and masri can score a decent total.

the only negative is that whoever is batting with JO, has to score fast with a SR of at least 70.

if JO is out of form, then rajin or iqbal can open.

ash should stay in the middle order, we need him in last 10 overs.

[cricman]

My dream would be having Ash to Open, But Ash can still be a middle order batsmen, My pick would be Javed and Shahriar Nafees, Just based on Javed's Fielding and that he's a senior member of the team. Plus he picked up the speed of his batting in NCL

Iqbal and Rajin can bat 6 and 7 or be super sub.

Heres an intresting Stat: These are Ash's 5 higest ODI Scores When he opens

36(53) SR - 67
56(82) SR - 68
52(93) SR - 55
35(69) SR - 51
66(120) SR - 55



Edited on, December 4, 2005, 7:43 PM GMT, by cricman.

[TheWatcher]

Nafees Iqbal is still inconsistent in his batting, Ashraful does better in the middle order, and Rajin should stay in the team as the super sub. So, yes, JO and Abir should be our opening batting pair in the both forms of the game:lol:

Edited on, December 4, 2005, 9:10 PM GMT, by TheWatcher.

[Hatebreed]

JO may be slow but he can stick out there for a while to get a good start for the team.. I'd like to see iqbal at 2, aftab and ashraful at 4 & 5 followed by bashar and the rest.. not quite sure about rajin's batting performance as an 'opener' but he should probably get a chance if JO consistently holds the team back.. otherwise he should stay as the supersub :)

[Haradhon]

Ashraful, the most heradled player of BD, provides a psychological edge for us in ODIs

[Safwat]

I dont want to comment anything on the current Bangladesh opening batsman.......But in 2 years time, i would love to see the "IQBAL" brothers (Tamim and Nafis). CHEERS

[fy288]

i know javed is slow and more of a test player, but we really do need stability at the top order as it does set a president to what can actually follow. With players like bashar, ash, aftab, rafique they can on there day make up for javeds slow rate. Keeping wickets until last 15/20 overs is critical in order to launch to a good total, (eg: in aus match we won, we were requiring 7 runs an over for much of game and still won!!)

Until we our batsmen mature as most are young and limited in experience, a player like omar is still required, but when the tiger cubs become mature tigers we wont need omar to open, in my view.

[sadi]

JO is not bad but I guess we spent enough time in international cricket to be a little more aggresive.... that doesn't mean that we will act stupid and send rafique and ash to open.... but we need to be aggresive and definately first 20 overs play a crucial rule in ODI now... so my pick will be Abir with rajin... rajin is a kinda batsman who has a good defense and can play new ball better than the old ball...... I feel like Rajin will be a total waste as supersub as we need someone as supersub who will come at 6-7 and can gather some runs quickly... according to me tushar will be best bet for that.....

[Dhakablues]

At this moment, other than JO and Shahrier Nafis, none has proven to be susccessful. Forget about Shahrier Bidyut ( he doesnt know what he wants in life for starters). Nafees Iqbal is slowly moving towards Hannan Sarkar/Ehsanul Haque direction. So, as far as our opener goes,,,, its status quo. We need to fire Ashraful/Aftab/ for better middle orders.

[CricTiger]

Formula for ODI openning

JO + ANOBODY = 50 over match
if
JO got out cheaply then
BD = <50 overs match
else
BD =220 + runs.

end if
**Like it or not we do not have any other options left now without JO.

[aosaif]

Originally posted by fy288
i know javed is slow and more of a test player, but we really do need stability at the top order as it does set a president to what can actually follow. With players like bashar, ash, aftab, rafique they can on there day make up for javeds slow rate. Keeping wickets until last 15/20 overs is critical in order to launch to a good total, (eg: in aus match we won, we were requiring 7 runs an over for much of game and still won!!)

Until we our batsmen mature as most are young and limited in experience, a player like omar is still required, but when the tiger cubs become mature tigers we wont need omar to open, in my view.

Haha! Yeh thad be so awsum. I can hear the commentators sayingn: "Now here come the two....master-blasting-brothers of Bangladesh. After dismantling a toothless australian attack yesterday, I would think they'd be licking their lips at the prospect of another mauling, this time against south africa. Tamim Iqbal.....perhaps the sparkier one......accompanies his elder sibling, Nafees Iqbal out to the middle now....."

[aosaif]

Javed is getting better at scoring faster. I think he might one day become one of the best batsmen we've ever produced.

[syedmahm]

Javed and ?

[Fazal]

Originally posted by aosaif
Javed is getting better at scoring faster. I think he might one day become one of the best batsmen we've ever produced. :lol:

[PoorFan]

Javed and Shahriar Nafees

Now way to change that until Iqbal shows improvement.

[sadi]

Originally posted by aosaif
Javed is getting better at scoring faster. I think he might one day become one of the best batsmen we've ever produced.

:yawn:

[cricket_pagol]

Originally posted by aosaif
Javed is getting better at scoring faster. I think he might one day become one of the best batsmen we've ever produced.

:-/:bald:

[aosaif]

heh, you guys having a great laugh at my comment eh?

Well I've followed our cricket long enough so I know I don't make comments out of the blue. I'm backing my comment, mock it all you want. If anyone told me that bashar would one day become our country's best batsman, I woulda said that that was the stupidest thing i've ever heard given his overall poor technique, but bashar did become one of the best in the world at a time. Javed has a certain temperment and determination that a world class batsmen need. He has more of this than any other bd batsman.

I did say that he MIGHT become the best we've ever produced. He has it in him, despite his limited shots. Many world class players have varying types of limits.

He's in really top form now. He has been for a while. His determination can only make him better.

[BangladeshFan]

how long it will take us to realize JO is no good? does bd want a respectable loss or a daring win?

if a team wants to win, they have to accept crushing losses. i am ready to take "crushing losses" to hope for being a better team in future. so i ll go for iqbal and nafis.

[Dhakablues]

I dont think you will have any sponsors/spectators left if you want to go that route....

Edited on, December 6, 2005, 11:59 PM GMT, by Dhakablues.

[AsifTheManRahman]

my vote goes to the JO-Shahriar pair, given that iqbal doesn't get back to form any time soon. i'd like to see these two settle down as permanents in the team, so that we won't have to shuffle our boys around that much. JO's doing a decent job ATM, and we don't have anyone better than him; Shahriar too has all the goods, and can only get better with time.

we should look at nurturing iqbal in the meantime. i'd like to watch him and shahriar develop a strong understanding and stand tall as our openers 3/4 years from now.

[sadi]

I am not saying JO is bad or anything...... he is good and he should be in the team... however making him the best batsman in the team will be really injustice to other batsman specially bashar........ he has been the most consistent batsman of all in bd and his average speaks for him...

[PoorFan]

Originally posted by sadi
I am not saying JO is bad or anything...... he is good and he should be in the team... however making him the best batsman in the team will be really injustice to other batsman specially bashar........ he has been the most consistent batsman of all in bd and his average speaks for him...
None of BD batsman is consistent!

Javed is best batsman because he can hang on the pitch sometime.
And Bashar is best batsman because he can pull and hook and make runs sometime.

[al Furqaan]

JO's doing a decent job ATM, and we don't have anyone better than him; Shahriar too has all the goods, and can only get better with time.


abir does have all the goods, but the way you said it implies that JO has them as well. JO has only one good, frankly a good we need like oil, the ability to play within weaknesses and put some small price on your wicket.

abir is amazing. when everyone was calling for his head after his debut match when he scored 10 from 30 balls, i knew he was gonna be good because of the way he looked while batting. he just had this aura around him.

[Rabz]

i reckon JO deserves some more credit than what often we fans n media give to him....

he is the un-sung hero of our cricket's infancy...

eg..remember the bd-eng game when eng scored a gizzilion runs n ash smashed 94 ...?? only javed managed to score 50+ in that match..rest...?? well... needless to say...we were all out for 220 something..
add 58 with 94 and subtract the rest with 226...

whats left ?? multiply it by 9...thats how much JO deserves a place in the team...at least till WC 07

guess enuf has been said bout JO already in the past ... both pros n cons...

so i rest my case...

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally posted by al Furqaan
abir is amazing. when everyone was calling for his head after his debut match when he scored 10 from 30 balls, i knew he was gonna be good because of the way he looked while batting. he just had this aura around him.

yeah...i just hope we can hold onto him. i hope he and iqbal don't get lost into the wilderness like so many talented openers have done before (mehrab and shahriar hossain to name a few).

[BangladeshFan]

Originally posted by Sydney
eg..remember the bd-eng game when eng scored a gizzilion runs n ash smashed 94 ...?? only javed managed to score 50+ in that match..rest...?? well... needless to say...we were all out for 220 something..
add 58 with 94 and subtract the rest with 226...

whats left ?? multiply it by 9...thats how much JO deserves a place in the team...at least till WC 07
...

how many balls JO took to make his precious 58........ must be over 100. he was settling his place in the team, nothing else. he even tried to challenge ashraful by strokes. see the highlights, when he hit a 4 he was not even talking to ash, as if "if u can do it, i can do it too". that is the reason he was trying to hit 4s, which he could not and ended up giving maidens, when he should be sensibly giving the strike back to ash. the guy is as selfish as anything. bd need selfish ones in test matches, not in ODIs.

[Mav]

not me.

[CricTiger]

Atleast JO is holding one side and as a sheet anchore that should be his job.Yes he is sometime very slow to rotate the strike but he is very consistent on not throwing his wickets cheaply. Yes he needs to change his game for ODI and I guess lately he has been working on these issues (NCL is a proof).

Anyway its better to have him in the team and put some runs on the board other than lossing 4/5 wickets within 15 overs and not to be able to play full 50 overs.

[cricman]

Originally posted by CricTiger
Anyway its better to have him in the team and put some runs on the board other than lossing 4/5 wickets within 15 overs and not to be able to play full 50 overs.

You forget, we have pilot he can turn 90/5 to near 200.

I voted for JO, But I Think we will eventually see Ash and Abir open, It'll be like our own version of Sewag and Tendu and I think it's gonna in the next series we play in. We already put Rafique and Iqbal opening, Ash and Abir will be next.

[shovon13]

so the reason for keeping JO in the team is because without him we'll be 25/5? well if he IS in the team wont we be 25/4 (given that he actually doesn't get out too)? how is that so much better?

Jo is an essential part of our test team. but in odi's, he's not. if wickets are falling...they will keep falling. there are two batting ends. Jo cant be batting at both of them. i think we all are missing the point. our odi batsmen need to figure out how to score at a brisk pace without giving their wicket. it has nothing do with Jo, or his style of batting. its not like Jo holds one end in EVERY game we play. it just doesn't work out.

my odi opening pair: abir (i do agree with him being amazing. this guy's batting is just classy looking)
nafis (solid, just needs to find his rhythm. he's the version of Jo we want in our odi team. able to hold one end with a strike rate of 70 or so)

[shovon13]

my edit thing isn't working for some reason.

"our odi batsmen need to figure out how to score at a brisk pace without giving their wicketS AWAY." <-- correction.

in addition to that:
in fact, because of Jo's slow batting, the batsmen at the other end attempts to compensate for it by trying to score too fast. as a result we often see wickets falling at the other end.

[Fortuner]

Abir should always be there for us to open coz he is not like any BD batsmen. If we look at the way he plays he doesnt play like any BD batsmen. He plays wisely and keeps the scoreboard ticking. Most of BD batsmen come and jst wana have a blast. Abir has got a gud temparament. Abir sees the situation and plays. Besides Abir is well educated(edu is need in regard to some condition in cricket...if i am not wrong)

So, Abir should always open for us.

Comin to the 2nd opening batsman....i would say JO should be kept only in test...for oneday..we need some1 who has got both excellent defence and attacking power. Not like JO...an ***...cant take big shots when he should take in ODI. Cant hook or pull. ODI - opening batsman must noe how to play all shots if he is to give da team an excellent platform....

I would say lets call up Tamim Iqbal or some body else...given the condition he is mentally strong like Abir...and noes how to play all shots ...for ODI
:lol:

we cant bring his elder bro coz we have seen.. he aint so gud...jst normal..better make him play as a middle order...lol...

So..for test...JO-Abir
ODI - Abir and some1 else except JO

Edited on, December 11, 2005, 4:09 PM GMT, by lance_klusner.

[choolwa abir]

I think Abir and Golla should and will open. This is a combination of aggressor (Abir) and Grafter (golla) and this partnership will blossom INSHALLAH given time.