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Rubu
February 8, 2006, 09:00 AM
OK, its official now. We are a favorite of u19 world cup. This is the first time a Bangladeshi team of any type is considered favorites in a world cup tournament.

How are you dealing with this new feeling? Before that how you feel?

Tigers_eye
February 8, 2006, 09:07 AM
To tell you the truth, it has not sunk in yet. But waiting for the world to pronounce our name in the same breath with the current Indian/SL U-19 Team. Like in other cricket nations forums, coaches, writers.

Hatebreed
February 8, 2006, 09:18 AM
The feeling is great and I hope we'll keep winning.. but it's still a long way to the semi-finals so I'm trying to keep my expectations constricted... whatever happens the best feeling I'll probably ever get is when we beat India :cool:

mona
February 8, 2006, 09:23 AM
Mostly I am feeling hopeful and excited but at the same time I have this nagging feeling about our batting. I don't know what we're gonna do if we have to chase 260 or something. It might be an over-reaction, but the instability of the U19 batting line-up at the moment is so painfully similar to the national team, I think it's natural to feel apprehensive and extremely wary.

There is also India, who are on four points as well with a NRR of +3.418, although they haven't played Sri Lanka yet. I hope they are exposed in that match, otherwise we are in deep trouble if we have to play them, especially if they bat first.

Having said all that, it's wonderful to connect hope with a Bangladeshi cricket team so my joy overrides all my fears and I can't help but feel that we have a BIG BIG chance of winning it.

cricfanz
February 8, 2006, 09:41 AM
I still cant believe it...

it: i missed the match..
it: we won!!!

its so great, yet unbelievable...finally, bdesh is doing well at an international tournament, nevermind it being an U19 cup..

sadi
February 8, 2006, 09:45 AM
I don't think batting will be a concern mona.... we have so many good batsmen who are capable of scoring big.... tamim and sakib hasn't scored anything yet.... also expecting big from raqibul and shamsur rahman.... and there is always the little mushi who will take care of business if anything goes wrong in the top order... I am more concerned with our pace attack... we are giving away easy runs in the beginning of the innings....

Cricket Crazy
February 8, 2006, 09:54 AM
I'm feeling proud and can't wait to hear our name from everyone. We are going to be famous but its not sure yet. We have to go to final. :bravo:

chinaman
February 8, 2006, 10:34 AM
We all know our days will come, don't we? If not today then tomorrow or next week or next ..

We have the potential and we are heading towards the right direction. We just have to keep the faith on ourselves as players and as well as nation and continue to work hard.

sunny747
February 8, 2006, 10:38 AM
http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/58800/58883.jpg

Saqibul Hasan's 4 for 34 earned him the Man-of-the-Match award in Bangladesh Under-19s four-wicket win over Pakistan, Bangladesh Under-19s v Pakistan Under-19s, 13th match, ICC Under-19 World Cup, Colombo, February 8, 2006

Mahir
February 8, 2006, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Rubu
This is the first time a Bangladeshi team of any type is considered favorites in a world cup tournament.

Not just in a world cup, but in ANY major international tournament of this calibre. Just a whole new height of expectation surrounding this time. The fact that these young raw talents from our country are already stamped to be full of potential to achieve something historical is plain awe-inspiring.

Rabeed Imam termed it the best : "Kings of the Creche". And I say, undoubtedly the future dominators of International cricket... ofcourse if developed into the national side appropriately.

capslock
February 8, 2006, 10:55 AM
I deal with it by realizing that Under 19 tournaments ultimately mean crap all in terms of international cricket.

samircreep
February 8, 2006, 11:04 AM
dude, this guy does NOT look under nineteen:lol:

Dhakablues
February 8, 2006, 11:05 AM
I think its good... but to be honest, we all knew that Bangladesh U19 team was always a strong team when the beat Austrailam U19 twice, Pakistan, Srilanka, South Africa, Zimbabwe, UAE National Side... Its great to see them winning consistently. At this point, winning the cup is not really something that can stop the train....we already have proven the wins last year were no fluke by beating Pakistan and New Zealand this time.

I think we have to take this tournaments seriously to find our next Lara, Inzamam, Yuvraj etc. especially allrounders. We already know how powerful candidate Saqib, Mehrab Jrs has become.

sadi
February 8, 2006, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by samircreep
dude, this guy does NOT look under nineteen:lol:

lol... I am not sure about him but there are atleast couple of them who are over nineteen in this team... one of my friend played with mehdi hasan and he was saying he is way older than nineteen... also mehrab jr....

Fazal
February 8, 2006, 11:25 AM
These guys are fearless.

Tamim is a natural explosive but still raw talent. Any time he can explode with his century.

Raqibul Hasan Plays more sensible innings. It’s a good balance partnering with Tamim

Saqibul: He showed us glimpse of why so many people (including myself) think so highly about him. He may be recalled to the national ODI team sooner than you think.

Shamsur Rahman: Even though he haven't shown much in Pakistan game, he will shine at some point in this tournament. Previous coach was high on him. And he is not going to disappoint anyone.

Mehrab Hossain jnr: Another all-rounder, who may not getting all the limelight, but performing consistently (in the shadow ) with the bat as well as with the ball. Don't forget his name, at some point in his career he will play for the national team.


Mushfiqur Rahim: Ke ar bolbo about this echre paka kid. He may be still a kid, but mentality wise he is far ahead of his physical age. He is a future national team captain material. He can hit, but also knows how to achor if needed. He is the other one who will solidify his position for both ODI and TEST sooner than most people think. Don't under estimate the mental strength of this kid. He will stabilize the u-19 batting all through the series.

Mehdi Hasan: I don't much about him, but one thing I know, he is much matured than his team mates. When BD lost 5 wickets for 119, all we needed is to cool down and score 1s and 2s to meet a asking RR below 2. He did exactly that. The scoreboard doesn't tell the whole story ( 10 runs in 34 balls). But that’s what the doctor ordered at that time.


Suhrawadi Shuvo: Another very good all rounder, who shined with his ball. His batting skill was not needed for this game. And we all know he is no dummy with his bat. Actually he did very well with the ball. Another candidate ( like Mehrab Jr. and slightly behind from Mushfiqur and Saquib) on the line for national ODI team in future.

Nabil Samad: He had another effective bowling performance against Pakistan. Given time, he will shine.

Dolar Mahmud: He haven't shown his merit yet in this tournament. But he is talented. Trust me, at some point he will show his true merit with his bowling.

Kamrul Islam: Don't know much about him. MY guess is if he fail to produce, he will be replaced by Sirajullah Khadim.

sadi
February 8, 2006, 11:31 AM
nice analysis....... here is my order how they will get picked for the national team

Mushfiq
Sakib
Tamim
Shamsur Rahman
Shuvro

Umar
February 8, 2006, 11:36 AM
Fazal Bro.....Nice analysis......I liked that !:)

Jai huk.......Bangladesh are off the pressure now.....Now they should think that wecan beat anyone....and exactly thats what they are doing now(hopefully)

next big targets are..... INDIA....SRILANKA...AUSTRALIA.....and WEST INDIES may be ENGLAND.

But the main three to me are INDIA....AUSTRALIA....and W.Indies.

i guess I am right :ninja:

fwullah
February 8, 2006, 11:50 AM
"This is the first time a Bangladeshi team of any type is considered favorites in a world cup tournament."

This is NOT the first time that a Bangladeshi team of any time is considered favorites in a world cup tournament. Our U-19 team had been favorites to win the world cup last time when it was staged in Bangladesh, we were also favorites in a number of last U-19 world cups. And if I am right, if we win this tournament this time - it would be for a long time coming. (where else do you think all my pessimisms come from?)

Sauron
February 8, 2006, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Rubu
OK, its official now. We are a favorite of u19 world cup. This is the first time a Bangladeshi team of any type is considered favorites in a world cup tournament.

How are you dealing with this new feeling? Before that how you feel?

Well, it's been official since before the tournament began. May be you just transferred over from the pessimist camp? :)

These guys play for the win. The best thing about them is that they are not worried that they might lose (like the seniors). They do not want to play it safe. They go for the win.

Great to see a mentality shift. Only if that shift disseminated enough amongst us, the fans.

yaseer
February 8, 2006, 12:11 PM
:joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:

:fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:

:fanflag::fanflag::fanflag::fanflag::fanflag:

This is how i feel..........................

Tigers_eye
February 8, 2006, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by fwullah
we were also favorites in a number of last U-19 world cups.
Only because we were the host in 04. But our first match loss to NZ put everything in disarray. It was not like we were the real favorites but hyped by our Media and fans. Most of the other Media outlets did not recognise us as the favorites. They said we were a strong team but not the favorites.

Talent wise this team can give the A team all they can handle. Ofcourse they are better than the previous ones. So truely they are for the first time favorites to win anything.

Ahmed_B
February 8, 2006, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by MasterBlaster
And I say, undoubtedly the future dominators of International cricket... ofcourse if developed into the national side appropriately.
This is exactly the thought that comes to my mind seeing our current U-19 team's strength compared to the other countries.

Last U-19 World Cup
BD beat teams like Aussies inconsistantly and few other teams.. became Plate Champs.
The success somewhat infiltrated into the the national side (with inputs from that very U-19 side): BD has started to beat stronger teams (IND/AUS).. but quite inconsistantly.

This U-19 World Cup
BD U-19 are consistantly and confidently beating the other nation's.. high hopes for playing into the finals!

Question is....(and my feeling also..)
Will this success infiltrate into the National side within next few years (Surely with some inputs into the side from these U-19's) and will BD start beating other national teams atleast bit more consistantly?

Edited on, February 8, 2006, 5:15 PM GMT, by Ahmed_B.

sadi
February 8, 2006, 12:14 PM
I am really proud of these kids and I really think they can go a long way...... wanna see them bat first against Uganda and get a good batting practice...

Sauron
February 8, 2006, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by fwullah
"This is the first time a Bangladeshi team of any type is considered favorites in a world cup tournament."

This is NOT the first time that a Bangladeshi team of any time is considered favorites in a world cup tournament. Our U-19 team had been favorites to win the world cup last time when it was staged in Bangladesh, we were also favorites in a number of last U-19 world cups. And if I am right, if we win this tournament this time - it would be for a long time coming. (where else do you think all my pessimisms come from?)

As far as I remember, BD was not the favorite per international media in last world cup. Bangladeshi fans had high expectations (somewhat justifiable). But the U-19 team did not have such a results' streak that time. They were at the start of their transformation. This time around they have ramped up to the full transformation.

Originally posted by fwullah
where else do you think all my pessimisms come from?


That, my friend, I think is genetic. :lol::lol:

(J/K of course, no offense intended)

hello_cricket
February 8, 2006, 12:19 PM
We should deal with the new 'feeling' very happily and very 'positively'. However, we have a long way to go. We should take each game at a time and prepare to 'win' it. In this journey we should not undermine any team including Uganda. I would like to see Bangladesh win the Trophy.

TheWatcher
February 8, 2006, 12:49 PM
A win always feels good, and a win against a talented team like Pakistan is great. But I still think our batsmen played immaturish (which is not unusual considering their age) to make a hard game out of an easy one. In the last few matches, there is a noticeable trend of our batsmen getting out after getting set in the wicket, most of the times playing unnecessarily over aggressive. Cubs, like seniors, are showing worrying tendency of going for big shots most of the times instead of finding gaps and keep rotating the strike with ones and twos. Fortunately for us, Paki batters also played recklessly and the quality of their fielding side was no comparison to that of ours.

Talents are definitely there, in a year or two, this team may turn out to be a better one than the current national side, but for now, they have a lot to learn if they were to be successful in international arena.

Edited on, February 8, 2006, 5:51 PM GMT, by TheWatcher.

TheWatcher
February 8, 2006, 02:26 PM
DS Report (http://thedailystar.net/2006/02/09/d60209040131.htm)

Chief selector Faruque Ahmed, who is now in Sri Lanka with the future stars, highly praised Mushfiqur's innings although he was not satisfied with the top-order batting in two matches.

"Mushfiq played a real captain's knock. It was also a composed and class knock which guided the team to a comfortable victory after the bowlers had set the platform. But I'm really disappointed with the top-order that failed for a second time," Faruque told the Daily Star Sport over phone from Colombo.

The former national captain, however, was excited with the fact that Bangladesh for the first time qualified in the upper stage of the competition.

"It was not unexpected given their success in the last seven months but no doubt it was a big achievement for an extraordinary batch which has the ability to win matches consistently," said an elated Faruque.

"The boys came into this tournament as one of the favourites and so far they have proved that it was not a fluke and I can only assure you that boys are ready for further challenges. They have the rare quality to avoid complacency after winning any matches," he added.

"We are not thinking about our quarterfinal match rather we are looking forward to beat Uganda in the last group match tomorrow to maintain the winning run," he said.

Edited on, February 8, 2006, 7:27 PM GMT, by TheWatcher.

Rubu
February 8, 2006, 03:23 PM
I have not talked about my feelings yet even though I opened the thread. To be honest, I feel pressure. Pressure to live upto the expectation. Hope the players do not feel the same way.

However, its a good and rare feeling of 'we are better'. given the situation from where they won both of the matches, I can see the biggest difference between them and the national team. in those situations, most likey the seniors would lost their nerves. These kids seems like "OK the sitation is bad. so, I'm gonna go out there and do the right thing. what would happen, is useless to think". if they were not able to keep it cool in both cases, they would have loose at least one. this is what making me even more hopeful. they will not loose until the game is over.

sadi
February 8, 2006, 03:26 PM
these kids can play under pressure... they won the tournament in dhaka against srilanka.... they are having fun out there which is a good thing

TheWatcher
February 8, 2006, 03:46 PM
Talk about pressure...
[quote]"There has been a bit of pressure on us with `phone calls going back and forth to Bangladesh over the past couple of days so hopefully this will relieve some of it," said coach Allister de Winter afterwards.

-ICC website

6alltheway
February 8, 2006, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by capslock
I deal with it by realizing that Under 19 tournaments ultimately mean crap all in terms of international cricket.

man thats a dumb statement to make.

it means our future is bright even though our present is showeded.:fanflag:

mshakir56
February 8, 2006, 04:58 PM
The entire world knows now that we are one of the teams who might win the world cup, I am satisfied.

Aurangzeb
February 8, 2006, 05:06 PM
good for bangladeshi cricket...frankly, i didn't even know this tournament had even started...but good on you guys beating pakistan...as an aside, can we steal ashraful from you guys?

Fazal
February 8, 2006, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by Aurangzeb
can we steal ashraful from you guys?

What you will give in return? Asif and Salman Butt?

Aurangzeb
February 8, 2006, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Fazal
Originally posted by Aurangzeb
can we steal ashraful from you guys?

What you will give in return? Asif and Salman Butt?

tough bargain, but i'll have to decline...however, as a goodwill gesture...you can have mohammad sami for free...:lol:

nsd3
February 8, 2006, 05:36 PM
I feel positive about our future in cricket. It wud be fair to dream about 2011 WC when our team shoud be matured enough to target semi final (atleast) in senior world cup.

Quarter final opponent could be England or Zimbabwe, I guess. Batting should click from top order, bowling (pacers) should be more accurate and disciplined rather than adventurous (like rajib in Lords).

Go BD go - win it in such a fabulous way that everybody can remember this for a long long time.

Fazal
February 8, 2006, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Aurangzeb
tough bargain, but i'll have to decline...however, as a goodwill gesture...you can have mohammad sami for free...:lol:

If you give him free, we will take him. We need some fast bowlers for our a-team. He will fit there nicely.:lol:

Rubu
February 8, 2006, 06:13 PM
since you are such a gentleman and giving us a free sample, how can we resist giving the favore back. you can have all of the following national players of ours:

khaled mahmud
alok kapali
hannah sarkar
tushar imran
mushfiqur rahman
anwar hossain munir

want any more? I can give you a full set of 14 players who played in national team recently.

Sauron
February 8, 2006, 06:21 PM
If he just takes Khaled Mahmud, that alone would make me a very happy fan.:lol:

Aurangzeb
February 8, 2006, 06:28 PM
ahahahahaha...i'm afraid nobody other than ashraful would make it on the current pak side...but thanks anyways...but on a serious note, i believe bangla is on its way up...should have seen the look on those bharatwasi's faces when bangla beat them in that odi...Aahahahahaha

CricTiger
February 8, 2006, 07:07 PM
I am delighted and feeling good. Still saving my energy for that moment when U-19 will lift the cup. :great:

al Furqaan
February 8, 2006, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by mshakir56
The entire world knows now that we are one of the teams who might win the world cup, I am satisfied.

spot on, :bravo:

PoorFan
February 8, 2006, 10:49 PM
I feel like we have tough time ahead, since our batsman are not producing good partnership last 2 matchs. It's pretty disappointing, even though we won those matchs comfortably, but in super league or tournament phase ( semi ), there is no option but win against same level ( strong ) opposition. To win these opposition, we must need big innings from our batsman, big partnership, and play through 50 overs. This time we got huge chance to win against them, since we already won against them at least once ( except IND, WI ). But one bad day ( against ZIM or ENG ) can kick us out even before semi! and that would be really pathetic! Playing in semi against AUS or WI or IND will be more tough, if we cant play big innings and partnership.

BD has never been in a position like this ( favorite ), which seems / could be a big weakness. Anyway, now I feel like, it will be very very disappointing if we fail to play in semi final.