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Rubu
February 19, 2006, 09:56 AM
Bangladesher Khela as well as protohom alo said that the squad for the match tomorrow is final with JO, Rana and Nazmul sitting out. This raises three questions to me?

1. What else Rana has to do to get a position in the playing 11/12.

2. How many more chances alok chandra shaha will get depending on two 80s?

3. If he can get a trillian of chances depending on two innings what was wrong with opee, rokon, bidyut, nannu ...... they showed more sign of talent here and there than alok. why are not them given chances every other series?

I know I talked many many times before about these, but can't help it.

its a disgrace. selectors are loosing my respect.

pilot fan
February 19, 2006, 10:14 AM
i agree you completly

why is rana not playing he is the only class allrounder we have (rafique is hit or miss with the bat)

why chacha that is what we want to know

at least rajin is back in the side that is one thing that we can be thankfull for

CricTiger
February 19, 2006, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Rubu
Bangladesher Khela as well as protohom alo said that the squad for the match tomorrow is final with JO, Rana and Nazmul sitting out. This raises three questions to me?

1. What else Rana has to do to get a position in the playing 11/12.

2. How many more chances alok chandra shaha will get depending on two 80s?

3. If he can get a trillian of chances depending on two innings what was wrong with opee, rokon, bidyut, nannu ...... they showed more sign of talent here and there than alok. why are not them given chances every other series?

I know I talked many many times before about these, but can't help it.

its a disgrace. selectors are loosing my respect.

Well, we have to wait a little bit longer for the list first then we can discuss about this.If it happenএ and Rana gets the 12th or 13th man job then I will agree 100% with you.Part of our selection process still runs by political motivations and nepotism is also there.

ঐযে বললেন না
আছিলাম বুদধীমান
এখন বোকা হযে যান
আখেঁরে ভাল ফলই পাবেন
এ সব অনাচার আর গায়ে লাগবে না

Ahmed_B
February 19, 2006, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Rubu
2. How many more chances alok chandra shaha will get depending on two 80s?

3. If he can get a trillian of chances depending on two innings what was wrong with opee, rokon, bidyut, nannu ...... they showed more sign of talent here and there than alok. why are not them given chances every other series?
I'm afraid these things are becoming somewhat like the Chacha-phenomenon. Absolutely no Idea where it might end.... taking everyone to the last end of patience.

Dhakablues
February 19, 2006, 11:34 AM
You know at the end,, its not about the controversial 2 or 3 players that the match's result will be decided,, but if our core players ( Ashraful, Aftab, Bashar, Rafique, Mashrafee, Mashud) do their job,, you can think of a empty Mishti stores and jubliant Dhaka streets with flying green, red flag.

Having Javed instead of Rajin or having Rana instead of Alok/Shujon,, probably wouldnt do that much unless the top and middle order scores some decent runs and bowlers checks run ( taking 10 wicket is somewhat distant chance, though technically possible)

CricTiger
February 19, 2006, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Dhakablues
You know at the end,, its not about the controversial 2 or 3 players that the match's result will be decided,, but if our core players ( Ashraful, Aftab, Bashar, Rafique, Mashrafee, Mashud) do their job,, you can think of a empty Mishti stores and jubliant Dhaka streets with flying green, red flag.

Having Javed instead of Rajin or having Rana instead of Alok/Shujon,, probably wouldnt do that much unless the top and middle order scores some decent runs and bowlers checks run ( taking 10 wicket is somewhat distant chance, though technically possible)

খাঁটি কথাই বলেছেন. তবুও বলবো
Team sprit
বলে একটা কথা আছে না?
যাকে তাকে নিলেই হোল নাকি?

Ahmed_B
February 19, 2006, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Dhakablues
Having Javed instead of Rajin or having Rana instead of Alok/Shujon,, probably wouldnt do that much .....
Disagree..
JO & Rajin are players of somewhat similar capabilities.. but the same can't be said about Alok & Rana. Rana produces results.. wheras Alok only produces promises.

CricTiger
February 19, 2006, 12:01 PM
I DO feel for JO.Hopefully he will be back in the series soon.And RANA our unsung hero ,you will get your fair share too.Just be patient

BagherBacha
February 19, 2006, 12:15 PM
DW just loves Kapali too much

BagherBacha
February 19, 2006, 12:17 PM
i don't think selection is politically motivated. it's just the wrong choice

Shafin
February 19, 2006, 12:46 PM
no to JO,we dont need him in ODI's

al Furqaan
February 19, 2006, 01:08 PM
i think chacha will make his farwell here then enter rana...i really wanna give alok another chance.

glad to see JO out...we need to wean ourselves from him in ODIs. i don't care if he is our most consistant batsmen; we will never win matches with his consistancy anyways.

esteban_loaiza
February 19, 2006, 01:48 PM
I think our intelligent selection committee again screwed up the selection. The main thing that bothers me that we are opening with Rajin and Nafees. It is not practical for Bagladesh team to open against a rather unknown attack with Rajin who is trying to make his comeback in national team. Did he open in local league? Our "tubelight" selectors will probably understand this after this match and replace him JO. Why dont ppl like JO? We need sanity in our top order and JO certainly gives that. Seocndly how long we need to give players like Kapali a chance like this? He could be super-sub. Last, did pitch play any role in choosing the bowlers? I dont think so. The pitch might be a little fast although we blindly got rid of third pacer. We should start a new thread on what changes going to be there in the second match.

Edited on, February 19, 2006, 6:49 PM GMT, by esteban_loaiza.

TheWatcher
February 19, 2006, 01:59 PM
Well, I am happy to know that it is not Faruk who included Kapali based on his personal liking, rather it is Whatmore who thought Kapali fits his game plan better.
"He (Kapali) has always been a multi-skill player. He has no assurance to bat at number five like previous occasions but we always feel that in a one-day game, number seven to nine batsmen can play important roles. There is a slight change in our vision with the team and it is that area," said Whatmore.

-DS
Most probably, Bangladesh will loose all matches against Lanka anyway, so DW is ought to try something different this time regardless how desperate the measure seems to us.

shovon13
February 19, 2006, 04:03 PM
at most what rana will produce is 20 runs (although i highly doubt that), and maybe a bowling figure like this

10-0-43-1

he's replaceable. understand that? but thats beside the point. this is chacha's farewell game. rana will be in the team for the next couple of odis. so quit whining.

BanCricFan
February 19, 2006, 04:24 PM
Guyz,
I think the team for tommorrow is ok. It looks quite balanced.
Hope Rajin and Nafees can give us a good start and Aftab,Basher and Ashraful clicks. I have a hunch Kapali will deliver the goods for a change! He can come in before or after Mashud according to the situation.
Eager to see how Mashrafi and Rasel bowls together. I think Ash should be given a few overs regularly in ODI's! He used to get good turn and bounce.

shamster
February 19, 2006, 04:28 PM
Razzaq and Kapali need to produce becuase I do not see the justification of including them ahead of Rana. Rana what more does he have to do ? Any Mahmud is retiring so he might go up the packing order now. I wonder if Mahmud decided to retire before or after knowing that he was in the first XI.

CricTiger
February 19, 2006, 04:31 PM
রাজ হোল SUPPER SUB
বুঝলাম না
এতদিন জানতম ALLROUNDER রা
SUPPER SUB হলে ভাল হয়
এখন দেখি সবই নতূন
রাজ আবার কবে থেকে ALLROUNDER হোল?

shongkhonil
February 19, 2006, 04:45 PM
Actually Raz is not that bad with the bat. I watched him bat in 2004 (I think it was Asia Cup) and he knows his way around with the bat. He might easily score more than our tender top order.

Spitfire_x86
February 19, 2006, 05:24 PM
Alok surely doesn't deserve a place in the team right now.

But at least he's keeping Rana away from the team :lol:

Edited on, February 19, 2006, 10:25 PM GMT, by Spitfire_x86.

esteban_loaiza
February 19, 2006, 05:59 PM
Raj is a better batsman than bowler.........

Asif
February 19, 2006, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by esteban_loaiza
Raj is a better batsman than bowler.........


oyeee... haita kobe thaikkkaaa:info:

CricTiger
February 19, 2006, 08:18 PM
আজকাল এই ফোরামে অনেক নতূন জিনিষ শিখছি
রাজ হোল ভাল ব্যট্সম্যান
কাপালী রানার চেয়েও এগিয়ে
RUBU-র মতো তাই বলতে চাই
ছিলাম বুদ্ধীমান হইলাম বোকা

মনে হয় CAT(CRICKET APTITUDE TEST) টা
আবার দিতে হবে

thebest
February 19, 2006, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by CricTiger

আজকাল এই ফোরামে অনেক নতূন জিনিষ শিখছি
রাজ হোল ভাল ব্যট্সম্যান
কাপালী রানার চেয়েও এগিয়ে
RUBU-র মতো তাই বলতে চাই
ছিলাম বুদ্ধীমান হইলাম বোকা

মনে হয় CAT(CRICKET APTITUDE TEST) টা
আবার দিতে হবে


আমারো দিতে হবে। কাপালী ১৫ জনে থাকবে না, সুপার সাব হবে এখন দেখি ৮ নাম্বার ব্যটসম্যন। কিন্তু ব্যাট করতে নাম বে ৪ নাম্বারে। তাহলে রোকন, আকরাম কি দোষ করল? কাপালী ভালোয় তেল বাজ। আমার আর কিছু বলার নাই।কবে পোলাও খাইছিলাম তার ঘি এখনো শুকে বেরাছি ?

Edited on, February 20, 2006, 3:21 AM GMT, by thebest.
Reason: font size

Haradhon
February 19, 2006, 11:12 PM
I would Kapali a chance becasue of his techniques and age. From the just finished World Cup I can see that our U-19s are better prepared technique-wise and psychologically. One of the weaknesses is playing the pacers as batter 1-5.
Kapali can play pacers; so I would give him a chance.

In the long run, we need to groom Mushfiqur Rahim and Mehrab , Jr., or even Shamsu Rahman for the ODI team

BappyHayat
February 19, 2006, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by CricTiger

আজকাল এই ফোরামে অনেক নতূন জিনিষ শিখছি
রাজ হোল ভাল ব্যট্সম্যান
কাপালী রানার চেয়েও এগিয়ে
RUBU-র মতো তাই বলতে চাই
ছিলাম বুদ্ধীমান হইলাম বোকা

মনে হয় CAT(CRICKET APTITUDE TEST) টা
আবার দিতে হবে


:lol::lol::lol: :bravo:

Apnar kotha deikha na haisha parlam na...

CAT ta koi dewa jai...bolben?

vv_sunil
February 19, 2006, 11:49 PM
i also feel, rana and javed should be in the team. Nazmul, is okey
javed can anchor the innings and rana is always giving more than 100%

PoorFan
February 19, 2006, 11:52 PM
1. What else Rana has to do to get a position in the playing 11/12.

2. How many more chances alok chandra shaha will get depending on two 80s?
1. It's not what Rana has to do ... more like Chacha have to retire and Alok / Razzak have to fail again ... Rana will be back soon for sure.

2. May be this is the last chance ... Hope he ( Alok ) shine this time.

Personally I think Javed should open with Nafees, Rajin should play one down, since we are not AUS or IND, we should target to play through 50 overs and score around 250. In that sense we need both Javed and Rajin in the team. May be after Chacha's farewell, we may see both of them are playing together.

Flipper
February 20, 2006, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by PoorFan

Personally I think Javed should open with Nafees, Rajin should play one down, since we are not AUS or IND, we should target to play through 50 overs and score around 250. In that sense we need both Javed and Rajin in the team. May be after Chacha's farewell, we may see both of them are playing together.


If we want to win, we have to think positively. Yes, we are not India, but we can become India. I love JO, but he is a temporary solution to our Batting line as I said before. We should continue to look for betterment.

Since it's ChaCha's farewell, here is something: When Bangladesh toured Australia, a reporter asked Khaled Mahmood wheather he thought his team had a chance against Australia. He replied, we play every game to win.

I think that's should be our attitude in every game.

Spitfire_x86
February 20, 2006, 02:16 AM
250 is not a very good score anymore. It has become like 200 of mid-90's. We should always aim for minimum 250, and look beyond. With Javed in the XI, it's never possible.

Fazal
February 20, 2006, 02:27 AM
আমার কিন্তু একটাই প্রস্ন ..... WHY !!!!!!!!!!


Originally posted by esteban_loaiza
Raj is a better batsman than bowler.........

খাইসে....তাহলে তো বলিং এও খবর আছে.

PoorFan
February 20, 2006, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by Flipper
Originally posted by PoorFan

Personally I think Javed should open with Nafees, Rajin should play one down, since we are not AUS or IND, we should target to play through 50 overs and score around 250. In that sense we need both Javed and Rajin in the team. May be after Chacha's farewell, we may see both of them are playing together.


If we want to win, we have to think positively. Yes, we are not India, but we can become India. I love JO, but he is a temporary solution to our Batting line as I said before. We should continue to look for betterment.

Since it's ChaCha's farewell, here is something: When Bangladesh toured Australia, a reporter asked Khaled Mahmood wheather he thought his team had a chance against Australia. He replied, we play every game to win.

I think that's should be our attitude in every game.
Well, I am not against looking betterment, but losing all wickets ( most of the time ) before finishing 50 overs not going to take us any where. It doesn't matter how aggressive we are in our mind, all it matters how we ACT and the RESULT from that act. We have seen so many times that losing early wicket always trigger our top order collapse, and we end up not able to play through 50 overs or scoring around 200. That means we are nowhere near to compete any opponent these days.

But then again, one Javed or Rajin cant hold the FAMOUS top order collapse every time I guess.

Spitfire_x86
February 20, 2006, 05:36 AM
Originally posted by PoorFan
But then again, one Javed or Rajin cant hold the FAMOUS top order collapse every time I guess.
True, but they not better than others in terms of "saving the team from collapse" anyway.

Just like the other BD batsmen, Javed and Rajin has lot of single digit scores.