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Mon
February 26, 2006, 06:17 PM
Fast bowler Hasibul Hossain Shanto is having a terrific time in the National Cricket League. His current stats are relatively better than Taposh, Talha, and Rajib. It was not so long ago when he was our main strike bowler. Due the fact that we need a 3rd pacer, I think it will be a wonderful idea to give Shanto a chance to play in the test team.

Given shanto’s recent performance, it’s very hard to disregard him.

cricman
February 26, 2006, 06:18 PM
OMG, Not this again!

Mon
February 26, 2006, 06:19 PM
lol. I was thinking the same before posting.
but why not?

billah
February 26, 2006, 06:20 PM
Watch out, or he will pull another Alok on you..

Someone nip dis thing in the bud right away, please...

Mon
February 26, 2006, 06:40 PM
and make it rest in peace?!

Tehsin
February 26, 2006, 06:45 PM
I am pretty sure everyone remembers Shanto's last ODI performance (against India - in a series decider ring a bell?). Some folks are made for the little leagues and Shanto is one of them.

akabir77
February 26, 2006, 06:54 PM
if shanto is in form then let him play in A team first.. People National team is not the place where u try-out wash-outs or the new stuff. U let them play in A team and if he is doing good over there for a while then pick him for ntl.

I don't understand why some people readly goes against some player!!! at least let them try out(back them) the A-Team...

I think we should try him again for the A team cause we don't have enough bowlers

Edited on, February 27, 2006, 12:02 AM GMT, by akabir77.

Edited on, February 27, 2006, 12:02 AM GMT, by akabir77.

gravitY
February 26, 2006, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Tehsin
I am pretty sure everyone remembers Shanto's last ODI performance (against India - in a series decider ring a bell?). Some folks are made for the little leagues and Shanto is one of them.

it seems that most of the ppl in this forum draws conclusion depending on prejudice! but my idea is, what is the harm to give a chance if one performs better than other? i think we should draw conclusion not depending on the prejudice rather current form of the player. and of course we have the back door open if someone doesn't perform up to the mark.

TheWatcher
February 26, 2006, 07:09 PM
Not supporting call for Shanto's inclusion in any national squad, be he is doing quite well lately, I mean pulling out three fifers in a row is no small deed. Also, it is very impressive that he got most of his wickets either caught behind, or bowled, or lbw.

If you think he is just making fool out of unexperienced rookies only, look at this scorecard (http://www.cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Scorecards/84/84247.html), he got Ehsanul in the both innings.

Edited on, February 27, 2006, 1:28 AM GMT, by TheWatcher.

AsifTheManRahman
February 26, 2006, 07:27 PM
hmm...after having done quite a bit of research on him, i daresay he's been quite impressive in the NCL so far. i say we give him (as well as ehsanul) a shot in the A team.

Rubu
February 26, 2006, 08:25 PM
Fast bowler Hasibul Hossain Shanto......did someone missed a few word or two? such as medium or slow?

we need to remember him with respect as a past contributor of the team. nothing more nothing less.

CricTiger
February 26, 2006, 08:46 PM
খাঁইছে আমারে ,আবার শান্ত
আমি পালাই

howzatt!
February 26, 2006, 08:50 PM
please!!! be it anwar hossain munir if we are THAT DESPERATE, but not shanto. we've seen time and time again that there are players that do exceptionally well in domestic cricket but sucks big time in international level. its one thing bowling to sanwar hossain and mushfiqur <u>rahman</u> and another bowling to sangakkara and jayawardene.

SMHasan
February 26, 2006, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by CricTiger

খাঁইছে আমারে ,আবার শান্ত
আমি পালাই


hahahahahahaha.......

keno jani kichu manush kichu player ke kokhonoi valo chokhe dekhe na.

pagol-chagol
February 26, 2006, 09:58 PM
Actually Shanto is dominating.

He is leading the league in wickets, 5 wickets takes, 10 wicket takes, Strike Rates and average despite missing a game.

He had three 5 wickets in a row.

He has been doing this despite playing with bowlers like Enamul Jr., Taposh, Nazmul etc.

Chronologically:
Hasibul Hossain 15 3 56 3 (1nb)
Hasibul Hossain 17 3 48 5 (1nb)
Hasibul Hossain 18 2 67 3 (3nb)
Hasibul Hossain 12 3 38 0 (3nb, 1w)(short inning)
Hasibul Hossain 12.5 3 40 5 (1nb)
Hasibul Hossain 25 3 71 5 (1w,3nb)
Hasibul Hossain 24 6 68 5 (1nb)
Hasibul Hossain 5 3 7 1 (still going on)

Not bad. I would pick him over Taposh at this point.

http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2005-06/BDESH_LOCAL/NCL/SCORECARDS/

shaoun
February 26, 2006, 10:16 PM
selecters dont care about NCL. i mean al shariar hannan had good performance in NCL. faisal hussein score 180 runs in last match. but standard of our domestic league is bad. we saw faisal hussein, ehsanul haque performing well in domestic cricket but when they got their chance they failed. i dont think shanto will be brought back into the team. because selecters in bangladesh are looking for young players who are in their teen or early 20s. and some one mentioned something about alok. alok hasnt done anything with the bat but he is showing good performance with the ball. but nothing too impressive yet, but his performance is good enough for our team as of now.

TheWatcher
February 26, 2006, 10:45 PM
Even for Shanto, this is exceptional, never before he had so many wickets or more than one fifer per season. Clearly, he found a new level of maturity.

Shanto's first class stats by season (http://www.cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Players/2/2204/f_Bowling_by_Season.html)

Mahir
February 26, 2006, 11:01 PM
i will always like shanto for what he has contributed for the team in the past. He's been my favourite bowler in BD for a long while in the past too... but should he brought back for the national team ? The natural response would be NO... but why not make him a fixture for the A-team ? or for those Board XI teams for practice match purposes when a foreign team tours us...

given that he continues his form, and there are a bunch of injuries for our strike bowlers in the national team, he may be called up then...

pagol-chagol
February 26, 2006, 11:28 PM
How tall is Shanto?

I heard he is like 6 feet 2 inches? Is that true?

cricketboy
February 27, 2006, 12:20 AM
We can look at him during the Kenya series but not against SRilanka.

laki
February 27, 2006, 12:48 AM
Give shanto a chance against the Kenyans.

roaring_tiger
February 27, 2006, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by Mon
Fast bowler Hasibul Hossain Shanto is having a terrific time in the National Cricket League. His current stats are relatively better than Taposh, Talha, and Rajib. It was not so long ago when he was our main strike bowler. Due the fact that we need a 3rd pacer, I think it will be a wonderful idea to give Shanto a chance to play in the test team.

Given shanto’s recent performance, it’s very hard to disregard him.


... vai kisu mone koiren na... apni ki ashole Hasibul Hossain Shanto ?

Fortuner
February 27, 2006, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
How tall is Shanto?

I heard he is like 6 feet 2 inches? Is that true?

I dont think he is that tall...He seems to be just 6 feet.....i hope i am not rong....

Manjurul Islam is 6'1" i think...and Shanta is an inch short...than him...

rudro
February 27, 2006, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
hmm...after having done quite a bit of research on him, i daresay he's been quite impressive in the NCL so far. i say we give him (as well as ehsanul) a shot in the A team.

A-team again? Those players who have been part of the national team for a long stretch can easily be recalled in the national team, if needed. They already have experience with big matches.

Nasif
February 27, 2006, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by roaring_tiger
Originally posted by Mon
Fast bowler Hasibul Hossain Shanto is having a terrific time in the National Cricket League. His current stats are relatively better than Taposh, Talha, and Rajib. It was not so long ago when he was our main strike bowler. Due the fact that we need a 3rd pacer, I think it will be a wonderful idea to give Shanto a chance to play in the test team.

Given shanto’s recent performance, it’s very hard to disregard him.


... vai kisu mone koiren na... apni ki ashole Hasibul Hossain Shanto ?


হা হা হা.... সত্যি হাসালেন....

Tigers_eye
February 27, 2006, 11:17 AM
Shanto became oshanto, good to see that. thank you TheWatcher bhai and pagol-chagol bhai for the stats.

I'd take him over Taposh.

An observation: Most bowlers can come into test and perform if they have potential (who don't have experience and stats to back them up).

Batsmen can not do that. They have to have experience and patience before then can make a mark. Therefore, Faisal and Ehsanul are much better now than when they made their debut for the national team. If they can be included in the A team that would be the best thing. Instead of looking for an average 20 year old to bat against the likes of Murali, Warne, Flintoff etc.

tarifmahmud
February 27, 2006, 12:09 PM
Hi guys.....
its me again..who brought Shanto issue in here for bringing back to the national team......But sorry guys this time its not me....
I think they guy who has brought this issue now has some sense of urgency and logical thinking.....
At the moment our pace attack is struggling with injuries and performance even though we have got some new talents...but dont u think we need an experience campaigner who has returned back to his form...who else than Shanto....
I dont want to say more about it....as last time some ppl make fun of my post.

Yes, I am his one of close friends..may be thats why i have an special corner for him....but as a BD cricket pagol I think selectors can at least start thinking about him to bring him back through some proper steps as some ppl suggested give him chance in A team or with Kenya......
Yes he is over 6 feet. (k jeno jante cheyechilo)

amara shobai amader team er bhalo chai

TheWatcher
February 27, 2006, 12:13 PM
Question for Mahmud Bhai, is Shanto really 28 years of age or older than that?

pagol-chagol
February 27, 2006, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by TheWatcher
Question for Mahmud Bhai, is Shanto really 28 years of age or older than that?

Absolutely no way. He is between 30 and 33. Since he didn't take care of his body well, it will be a little bit more in practical age.

tarifmahmud
February 27, 2006, 12:23 PM
he is around 30 not more than that....ar janen to amra bangalira shobai e boyosh ektu kom beshi churi kori....

Mon
February 27, 2006, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by roaring_tiger
Originally posted by Mon
Fast bowler Hasibul Hossain Shanto is having a terrific time in the National Cricket League. His current stats are relatively better than Taposh, Talha, and Rajib. It was not so long ago when he was our main strike bowler. Due the fact that we need a 3rd pacer, I think it will be a wonderful idea to give Shanto a chance to play in the test team.

Given shanto’s recent performance, it’s very hard to disregard him.


... vai kisu mone koiren na... apni ki ashole Hasibul Hossain Shanto ?

na bai. Ami apnar motho cricket pagol who wants to see the best of our BD team. :)

It's very nice to see some constructive dialogues regarding this issue. Perhaps it is a better 'compromise' against our agonistic culture where we dismiss an issue without even disucssing it!

TheWatcher
February 27, 2006, 01:42 PM
Shanto missed his fifth fifer in the league. His figure in the last innings-

O/M/R/W- 21 10 26 4

Did not give a single extra:clap:

Whether he deserves a call in any national squad at this point is debatable, but his performances sure deserve applauds.

pagol-chagol
February 27, 2006, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by TheWatcher
Shanto missed his fifth fifer in the league. His figure in the last innings-

O/M/R/W- 21 10 26 4

Did not give a single extra:clap:

Whether he deserves a call in any national squad at this point is debatable, but his performances sure deserve applauds.

Damn, that would've been 4th fifer in a row. I don't think any BD bowler has ever done that. Also 26 runs in 21 overs? The batsmen probably went into ultra defensive mode playing against him. What happened to him? It'll be hard to stop him if he keeps playing like this.

tarifmahmud
February 27, 2006, 02:07 PM
greaaaaaaat

billah
February 27, 2006, 02:12 PM
"Wayward Delivery" Shanto must not be allowed to play the national side. Presently it may just be the viagra or something, but remember, he is not playing against our national players right now. Besides, his line was bad even when he was in top form. Against even Ashraful, he will be flayed all over the park.

Shanto helped us winning ICC trophy, thanks Shanto bhai. We are at a different stage now. We should be looking forward to our present U-19 playing in the 2011 WC final or something, not for a possible Shanto comeback...

reverse_swing
February 27, 2006, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by billah
"Wayward Delivery" Shanto must not be allowed to play the national side. Presently it may just be the viagra or something, but remember, he is not playing against our national players right now. Besides, his line was bad even when he was in top form. Against even Ashraful, he will be flayed all over the park.

Shanto helped us winning ICC trophy, thanks Shanto bhai. We are at a different stage now. We should be looking forward to our present U-19 playing in the 2011 WC final or something, not for a possible Shanto comeback...

Well said Billah Bhai and this should be the end of the story.

TheWatcher
February 27, 2006, 02:42 PM
Billah Bhai, probably you didn't notice my posts where I pointed out that Shanto is giving away very few extras nowadays and most of his wickets are either bowled, caught behind, or lbw- a clear indication that he has tightened up his bowling by a huge margin.

But the questions is how much pace he lost to achieve this new dimension :-/

Tigers_eye
February 27, 2006, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by TheWatcher
But the questions is how much pace he lost to achieve this new dimension :-/
Does it matter. As long as he is getting wickets I don't care. Rasel's pace is not that good. Masud stands right next to the wicket. line & length should compensate the lost pace.

sadi
February 27, 2006, 02:57 PM
I dunno why ppl are so against Shanto... do we have any McGrath or Lee bowling for Bangladesh right now? I don't think so... and if he can be a better option than Tapash or Nazmul.. why not? The only question is how much importance should we give to domestic cricket? Is he getting wickets against some oga-moga batsman or he is really turning corners here? Thats upto the selectors to find out... but if he has really improved, he should definately get a chance somewhere.... he is only 30... he atleast has couple of years ahead of him.....

rudro
February 27, 2006, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by billah
"Wayward Delivery" Shanto must not be allowed to play the national side. Presently it may just be the viagra or something, but remember, he is not playing against our national players right now. Besides, his line was bad even when he was in top form. Against even Ashraful, he will be flayed all over the park.

Shanto helped us winning ICC trophy, thanks Shanto bhai. We are at a different stage now. We should be looking forward to our present U-19 playing in the 2011 WC final or something, not for a possible Shanto comeback...

I agree with Billah about targeting 2011 WC and making present under 19's ready for that. However, WC matches are not test matches and hence letting one or two players like Shanto in one or two series (while we rest our key bowlers) in no way jeoperdises our chances in 2011.

pagol-chagol
February 27, 2006, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by sadi
I dunno why ppl are so against Shanto... do we have any McGrath or Lee bowling for Bangladesh right now? I don't think so... and if he can be a better option than Tapash or Nazmul.. why not? The only question is how much importance should we give to domestic cricket? Is he getting wickets against some oga-moga batsman or he is really turning corners here? Thats upto the selectors to find out... but if he has really improved, he should definately get a chance somewhere.... he is only 30... he atleast has couple of years ahead of him.....

Most people dislike him for his control problems. Speed was always his strength. If he has finally learnt to control his line and length he may have become a dagerous bowler and the reason for complain may have evaporated.

Leave no stones unturned.

pagol-chagol
February 27, 2006, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by rudro
Originally posted by billah
"Wayward Delivery" Shanto must not be allowed to play the national side. Presently it may just be the viagra or something, but remember, he is not playing against our national players right now. Besides, his line was bad even when he was in top form. Against even Ashraful, he will be flayed all over the park.

Shanto helped us winning ICC trophy, thanks Shanto bhai. We are at a different stage now. We should be looking forward to our present U-19 playing in the 2011 WC final or something, not for a possible Shanto comeback...

I agree with Billah about targeting 2011 WC and making present under 19's ready for that. However, WC matches are not test matches and hence letting one or two players like Shanto in one or two series (while we rest our key bowlers) in no way jeoperdises our chances in 2011.


There was no pacer in the u-19 who was that promising.

Shanto is not getting picked before Shahadat and russel .

He is fighting not agains Mashrafee.

He is not fighting against Mushfiqur Rahim or Saqib.

He is positioning himself to be the third pacer fighting against Taposh, Nazmul, Sharif, Alamgir Kobir, Gazi Alomgir, Mushfiqur Rahman, Chacha etc.

Judging from his recent performances Shanto should come ahead of these mediocre bunch.

billah
February 27, 2006, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
He is positioning himself to be the third pacer fighting against Taposh, Nazmul, Sharif, Alamgir Kobir, Gazi Alomgir, Mushfiqur Rahman, Chacha etc.

Now, this is just pathetic, isn't it, pagol miah? Where are the nine new quickies from the pacer hunt? You've just snuffed the uphoria right out of me...:(

Tigers_eye
February 27, 2006, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
There was no pacer in the u-19 who was that promising.

Shanto is not getting picked before Shahadat and russel .

He is fighting not agains Mashrafee.

He is not fighting against Mushfiqur Rahim or Saqib.

He is positioning himself to be the third pacer fighting against Taposh, Nazmul, Sharif, Alamgir Kobir, Gazi Alomgir, Mushfiqur Rahman, Chacha etc.

Judging from his recent performances Shanto should come ahead of these mediocre bunch.

Very well said. We don't have a 3rd pacer. Nazmul may have the potential but still vastly inexperienced. Travelling outside the continent (would require to have 4 pacers) demands we nurture some of these quicks. Shahadat should get a call.

TheWatcher
February 27, 2006, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Cats_eye
Originally posted by TheWatcher
But the questions is how much pace he lost to achieve this new dimension :-/
Does it matter.
I think it does, if he turned out to be another nagging medium pacer like Chacha (remind you, he too gets fifers in our NCL), don't see any place for him in any national squad.

At 30+ years age, his fitness level won't be that good to get him into the ODI squad (he is already infamous for dropping catches). His recent performances in list-A matches won't help him out there either. So, only chance he has is coming into the Test squad as the third seamer, and here he will need to bowl at 80+ mph.

About Rasel, imo, he sure does need to get quicker to be a successful Test bowler too.

pagol-chagol
February 27, 2006, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by billah
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
He is positioning himself to be the third pacer fighting against Taposh, Nazmul, Sharif, Alamgir Kobir, Gazi Alomgir, Mushfiqur Rahman, Chacha etc.

Now, this is just pathetic, isn't it, pagol miah? Where are the nine new quickies from the pacer hunt? You've just snuffed the uphoria right out of me...:(

Thats just the reality. (Don't buy too many lottery tickets)

Did you think those nine pacer hunt kids would suddenly take care of all your pains?

You know even Pakistan's Asif had to climb uphill for a long time before this series.

sadi
February 27, 2006, 04:05 PM
There was no pacer in the u-19 who was that promising.

Shanto is not getting picked before Shahadat and russel .

He is fighting not agains Mashrafee.

He is not fighting against Mushfiqur Rahim or Saqib.

He is positioning himself to be the third pacer fighting against Taposh, Nazmul, Sharif, Alamgir Kobir, Gazi Alomgir, Mushfiqur Rahman, Chacha etc.

Judging from his recent performances Shanto should come ahead of these mediocre bunch.

Yep thats the point... just like I said before... if he is really doing good, he definately deserves another chance..... When Mashrafee comes back, I don't see him playing but right now, definately he should've been in the squad...

Tigers_eye
February 27, 2006, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by TheWatcher
I think it does, if he turned out to be another nagging medium pacer like Chacha (remind you, he too gets fifers in our NCL), don't see any place for him in any national squad.
We haven't seen such consistency in our league even when Wasim Akram played. So Shanto is no Chacha.


At 30+ years age, his fitness level won't be that good to get him into the ODI squad (he is already infamous for dropping catches). His recent performances in list-A matches won't help him out there either. So, only chance he has is coming into the Test squad as the third seamer, and here he will need to bowl at 80+ mph.

About Rasel, imo, he sure does need to get quicker to be a successful Test bowler too.

Not all has to have speed in order to be successful. Sir Richard Hadlee in his later age is a perfect example. Mota mia Botham another. But I agree with you, we all would love to see Rasel get his speed up a bit.

Ockey
February 27, 2006, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by billah
"Wayward Delivery" Shanto must not be allowed to play the national side. Presently it may just be the viagra or something, but remember, he is not playing against our national players right now. Besides, his line was bad even when he was in top form. Against even Ashraful, he will be flayed all over the park.

Shanto helped us winning ICC trophy, thanks Shanto bhai. We are at a different stage now. We should be looking forward to our present U-19 playing in the 2011 WC final or something, not for a possible Shanto comeback...

Performance in the domestic cricket league should be the no. one determining factor in decideing whether a cricketer gets selected or not for the national team, not age or any other criteria. Of course there will be disparity between the domestic league and international cricket. And our domestic cricket league may not be the best out there but it should be the first pool from which a national selector picks players from. And like most things in life, past poor performance shouldn't automatically disqualify a player from getting back into the team if he has recently performed well.

The whole purpose of sports, besides entertainment, is to build camaraderie and team spirit among players and fans. It also teaches us to compete under a set of rules so all parties playing the game are judged fairly. So to be fair to the all the players in the domestic league, the national selectors should spell out what criteria they use to select players to play for the national team. If performance in the domestic league isn't an indicator of a player's talent and maturity then I would really like to know what other indicators are being used. I refuse to accept the theory that age should trump performance.

I believe Bangladesh should adopt the recruiting strategy that's used by some of the Western countries where recruitment starts at a very early age. It basically involves a hierarchy. Those who perform well in middle school get to play, as they grow older, for their high school team. Those who do well in high school get recruited by the best colleges (through athletic scholarships) to play in the varsity teams. Those who play well in varsity teams get recruited by the domestic and international leagues. And finally, the best players from the domestic and international leagues get to play in the national team. This hierarchy creates a safety net for athletes ensuring that athletes at the very least get a good education even if they are unable to compete at the next level. Schools and universities also win because of the sponsorship deals, ticket and merchandise sales. The hierarchy also reduces the need for youth recruitment camps to search for the best talent out there - a strategy that BCB has followed every year - because the best talents will automatically funnel through the system. Sorry to deviate. But just wanted to offer a better solution.



Edited on, February 27, 2006, 9:33 PM GMT, by Ockey.

TheWatcher
February 27, 2006, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by Cats_eye

Not all has to have speed in order to be successful. Sir Richard Hadlee in his later age is a perfect example. Mota mia Botham another.
:) Now that's too much Cats_eye, bringing Hadlee and Botham in this discussion. In terms of controlling the ball, Shanto probably won't even come close to Rasel. As far I can remember, Shanto could only produce outswingers. May be he added some slower deliveries to his armory now, but don't think he has suddenly become a great mover of the ball.

But I guess saying Shanto may have gone down to Chacha speed doesn't make sense either. It is really bugging me what has suddenly changed for him, in the last Dhaka premier league, he got beaten even in matches against Indira and Agrani; in the last round match against Victoria, he gave 51 runs in 4 overs without taking a single wicket (he was playing for Old DHOS in the league).

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RazabQ
February 27, 2006, 07:20 PM
Anyone who lives in Dhaka should go and watch the man at least in the nets to give us a realistic view of his bowling these days.

I for one have to admit that he has been very very consisten in the NCL and based on this, he should at lesat be called into the national team Nets. Dav should bring him in and have him bowl to Aftab, Ash, Bashar and SN and see what he can do.

There is no point in sending him on A-team tours. A-team tours are not for veterans usually. But, on the flip side, just because you were once discarded should not mean that you can never come back. Wasn't Raw-freak discarded for the longest while? ;)

billah
February 27, 2006, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by RazabQ
Wasn't Raw-freak discarded for the longest while? ;)

Rafique was not included in every match, due to the presense of Enamul Sr. during the ICC era. I don't remember him being discarded for any extended periods.

sonarbangla
February 28, 2006, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by cricman
OMG, Not this again!


:joy: 100% support goes to this statement.. i remember wht the hell did that freak did against india.. lol

pagol-chagol
February 28, 2006, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by sonarbangla
Originally posted by cricman
OMG, Not this again!


:joy: 100% support goes to this statement.. i remember wht the hell did that freak did against india.. lol

I am sure you can find examples like that about every player. I don't mean just Bangladeshi players, you can say that about international stars too.

Would you give up on Mashrafee for the last 4 overs in the 3rd ODI?

Would you have given up on Ashraful for dozens of blunders at crucial times?

Basher's irresponsible pulls deserve some spanking too.

Why do people have selective memory.

zahid
May 24, 2007, 05:40 PM
Erm.... Had to revive this topic :)

TheWatcher
May 24, 2007, 06:01 PM
:) Ha Ha, I was also very excited about Shanto's performances in NCL that year.

Shanto was called to the A-team for the tour of Zimbabwe based on those performances last year. Here are his bowling figures in that tour -

In four-day matches:
7-3-17-2
21-1-81-0
19-3-70-1
13-3-59-1
20-4-58-0
7-0-34-2

In one-days:
5-0-29-0
6-0-34-1

As you can assume, my excitement about Shanto was completely gone after that tour.

Sohel
May 24, 2007, 06:02 PM
THIS IS FROM 2006... TALK ABOUT NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO DETAILS!!!eishob kam keno kortasen bhai?

Trigger_Tiger
May 24, 2007, 06:02 PM
The question is, how good is Shanto now?

Sohel
May 24, 2007, 06:04 PM
:) Ha Ha, I was also very excited about Shanto's performances in NCL that year.

Shanto was called to the A-team for the tour of Zimbabwe based on those performances last year. Here are his bowling figures in that tour -

In four-day matches:
7-3-17-2
21-1-81-0
19-3-70-1
13-3-59-1
20-4-58-0
7-0-34-2

In one-days:
5-0-29-0
6-0-34-1

As you can assume, my excitement about Shanto was completely gone after that tour.

Zahid's not laughing... he's serious... ;)

Niceman70
May 24, 2007, 06:05 PM
and of course we have the back door open if someone doesn't perform up to the mark.

i kinda disagree because i don't think anyone showing basher the back door...

zahid
May 24, 2007, 06:11 PM
The question is, how good is Shanto now?

Precisely. Can someone update us on his 2007 performance in NCL ?

BonBon
May 24, 2007, 10:00 PM
chengra pagol bhat pae na booira pagol amdani..

Sohel
May 24, 2007, 10:05 PM
ouch...

gatekeeper
May 24, 2007, 10:39 PM
Erm.... Had to revive this topic :)

You seem very fond of Shanto. Are you from Old DOHS?

Fortuner
May 24, 2007, 11:09 PM
Shanto has to perform in
A team or Academy team matches...1st..

betaar
May 24, 2007, 11:56 PM
he is around 30 not more than that....ar janen to amra bangalira shobai e boyosh ektu kom beshi churi kori....

Shanto is at least 34/35 and he's not taller then me which makes him exactly 6 feet tall. I know all this just because I played cricket with him few years in old DOHS and he's my close budy's cousin.

And I don't think we should reinvest on someone at his stage who is showing the last glimmer before withering away. Definitely as his wellwisher I'd hope he could comeback, but to me the well being of BD comes first then the people associated with nostalgic memories.

Mahir
May 25, 2007, 01:40 AM
I am pretty sure everyone remembers Shanto's last ODI performance (against India - in a series decider ring a bell?). Some folks are made for the little leagues and Shanto is one of them.

Thats pretty harsh on a bowler who was our striker with the new ball for a long time. Shanto is NO little league bowler, and his godawful performance in that ODI is better forgotten. And surely that single match showing doesnt indicate the quality and level of his bowling abilities. Maybe his national team days are long over, but his recent form is undoubtedly impressive. But that's not to say that I am personally looking forward to a possible call-up for him.

Fazal
May 25, 2007, 08:47 AM
Shanto's fan-ra eto Oshanto Keno?

Protic
May 25, 2007, 03:32 PM
LOL, shanto plays for OLD DOHS ? eh..the place in Dhaka where i live..
=) I see him every friday at the mosque..for namaj.
He looks OLD =| I dont think he should be given any chance.

JamesBond
May 25, 2007, 04:29 PM
I used love Shanto's style of bowling.. too bad he cant bowl that fast buts its a good news that he can be back in squad again..