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babubangla
March 7, 2006, 03:33 AM
NTV just reported that Bangladesh Team management announced the 12-man squad for the 2nd test against Sri Lanka. There is just 1 change in the 12-man squad. Alok Kapali is replaced by Mushfiqur rahim.

shovon13
March 7, 2006, 03:39 AM
so masri and aftab still out. i guess they dont want to take any risks with masri. aside from that, this is probably the best test team combination they had available. despite of his dismissals, nafis looked the part - and is therefore given another chance. and mushfiq rahim, even at his tender age, deserves a shot at the big time for his maturity level. this time he'll be at home in bogra, a sharp contrast with Lord's.

i'm feeling good about this team's batting.

PoorFan
March 7, 2006, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by babubangla
NTV just reported that Bangladesh Team management announced the 12-man squad for the 2nd test against Sri Lanka. There is just 1 change in the 12-man squad. Alok Kapali is replaced by Mushfiqur rahim.
I think that's quite perfect, and I also think Aftab is not fit for the test yet ( play through 5 days ).

thebest
March 7, 2006, 03:43 AM
At last some sensible decesion.

babubangla
March 7, 2006, 03:47 AM
If Aftab was selected, Shahriah Nafess had to open the innings with JO. Shahriar Nafees produced comparatively resonable runs in middle order. So, it was a hard decision to change his batting order. I guess Nafis Iqbal survived due to Shahriar Nafees's batting order issue.

gravitY
March 7, 2006, 03:58 AM
Good selection I'd say, despite the fact that I've advocated for axing Nafees Iqbal, he's been given another chance. I have no question about his technique and talent, but I was so mad after watching that shot (it was really painful to see such a shot at that stage of the match) in 2nd innings (also in 1st innings) and wanted to see some sort of punishment.

Aftab is, I think, still weak for five-day match while selectors do not want to take any chance with Mashrafee, which I hope would trun out to be good in long run. I think we'd get both of them at their high against Kenya [and that way it'd be easier for us to win the series, hopefully 4-0].

And finally about Musfiq, he definitely deserved a chance after the performace and maturity he's shown in U-19 World Cup. I hope he'd prove his quality and the trust selectors had upon him. Also as someone else sed, a sharp turn, from Lords to Shahid Chandu:lol:. I wish him good luck and good luck for Tigers. Wish we'd come up with a win this time. :fanflag:

Also I feel the lack of a third Seamer, btw, can Mushfiq bowl?

sar2005
March 7, 2006, 04:05 AM
I think if NI does not throw away his wicket, he does not get out cheaply. Whatmore still believe NI's match saving innings against ZIM was one of the best. Let's hope this guy shows some maturity this time (if finally included in 11).

Yeah, bowling team of 3 Rs (Rafiq, Rajib, Russel) + Enam Jr will do average. But all is now upto the batsman who should by now get ready for batting, batting and more batting.

Rubu
March 7, 2006, 08:12 AM
I would like to see masri in it, since without him we can't think about taking 20 wickets. but at the same time, we can't afford to take any risk on him.

I guess mushi will play at his home town and rajin will be the 12th man.

deshibhai
March 7, 2006, 08:17 AM
So we have a test team with four bowlers? Or is Ashraful considered the fifth bowler?

Tigers_eye
March 7, 2006, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by deshibhai
So we have a test team with four bowlers? Or is Ashraful considered the fifth bowler?
four bowlers are fine. Two are spinners who can go for long spells. Not like England (against Aus), 4 quicks who had to take bathroom breaks to be refreshed.
Along with Ash, our beloved Bashar Bhai is pretty good bowler too. Check out who he got out. :clap:


I like the fact, N Iqbal was given one last chance. If he plays, the captain and coach should be all over him and make sure he doesn't repeat test 1 outs. Out of 12 who sits?

Warlock
March 7, 2006, 09:07 AM
Good selection:bravo:.
Hope Nafis Iqbal will click in the second test. I think he was a bit unlucky to get out after having a start in the first test- twice!
If we are lucky- Rahim might play a 50+ innings.
However, Bashar's form is a reason to worry. The nagging feeling that Bashar's best days are already past him- is really bugging me. I do hope I am terribly wrong though:o.

Rubu
March 7, 2006, 09:14 AM
Ash has to squize in a few overs here and there. in fact, ash is a good bowler, and he should be bowling more. unless of course, that gets against his concentration of batting.

But they might play rajin instead of NI. in that case, we'll have a 5th bowler.

sar2005
March 7, 2006, 09:26 AM
If they select RS in front of NI, I am sure they don't want him to open a test innings, do they? In that case, capt will ask SN to act as an opener which may not be good for us.

Let's hope we play with 2 genuine openers and also mushfiq at no. 6.

Regarding the bowlers, agree, Ash can be given a bit more chance if 4 bowlers are blasted by SLankans. Let's hope 3 R's (Rafiq, Russel, Rajib) and Ejr will do the trick for us so that we don't need an extra bowler.

Spitfire_x86
March 7, 2006, 09:27 AM
No Aftab = :down:

Cricket46
March 7, 2006, 09:29 AM
We really need a 5th bowler of some merit, if we want to try and make a match out of the test. The problem is we do not have much of an all rounder in the team, barring Rafique. That is also where we miss Mashrafee, as he can bat quite decently. I am almost certain that they will play Mushfiq, and Rajin will be the 12th man. Of course, batting becomes a little stronger, but we need Aftab in future. He is our Mohinder Amarnath/Mudassar Nazar. Although, I am still in favor of having Pilot in the team as he does a good job in occupying the crease, but for his and team’s sake he needs to start scoring runs, again. And soon!

sadi
March 7, 2006, 09:32 AM
rajin sits..... good to see mushfiq getting a chance

istiak
March 7, 2006, 09:38 AM
I think he was a bit unlucky to get out after having a start in the first test- twice!

I don't really agree that he was unlucky!! If you play that kind of shot in test matches you will get out 91 in 100 times.

I think it is possibly the best team we can have, so just hope for the best.

sar2005
March 7, 2006, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by Cricket46
but we need Aftab in future. He is our Mohinder Amarnath/Mudassar Nazar.

Actually, he is our Arabinda De Silva!! Hang on Man, he is coming soon in action to destroy the Aussies. Before that, he will definitely come against KEN as strong as he came against ZIM (in 5th ODI)............... :up:

rudro
March 7, 2006, 10:00 AM
I am satisfied with the selection. I don't mind going with Rajin instead of NI. But either way is fine with me. Including Rajin will unsettle the batting order for sure. I would hesitate to do so.

Fazal
March 7, 2006, 10:07 AM
No Alok.... How was that????

Am I dreaming or what?


I wanted Aftab or Musfiq or both... atleast thats good news... but we may still end up getting Rajin and Mushfiq as 12th man. Thats not so good. They may say ...they are replacing a bowling allrounder (:P).... so they may think Rajin is a better solution as Mushfiq cannot bowl.... does he?

The rumor is Farouq claimed Mushfiq can bowl too, and thats why he was selected.

Edited on, March 7, 2006, 3:10 PM GMT, by Fazal.

Sauron
March 7, 2006, 10:11 AM
It may not be exactly what I wished for, but I like this change. Good luck to Mushfique!

al Furqaan
March 7, 2006, 10:37 AM
bowling wise...this is as good as it gets w/out mashrafee.

and if you take all test nations, take their best strike bowler out...you will get an attack like ours.

unlike the majority of fans, i am gonna make a bold prediction:

russel and rajib will be around for a long time, and will make tapash and nazmul's mothers forget about them.

of course mash is mash.

and rafiq and enam are very good as well.

Baundule
March 7, 2006, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Cats_eyeAlong with Ash, our beloved Bashar Bhai is pretty good bowler too. Check out who he got out. :clap:

Hope, you are not joking :)
Btw, I watched that match with fear on my eyes that Lara was going to make the first ODI double century. Well, HB did it! :) WI scored 165 (if I can recall correctly) in the first 15 overs; but managed only 149 in the remaining 35 overs! Good come back by the Bangladeshis and HB, the bowler initiated that!

to that match (http://uk.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1999-2000/WI_IN_BDESH/SCORECARDS/WI_BDESH_ODI2_09OCT1999.html)

Fortuner
March 7, 2006, 10:46 AM
Why the hell is NI still there??????:mad::mad::mad:

After getting out in that Idiotic way. He ought to be taught a lesson by being dropped for 2nd test match.....

Did NI bribe them to take him????

If No one is there to open with JO, I would say that as a rong fact. Rajin is there. Better give him a chance to play and we all noe Rajin's defence is gud...

Baundule
March 7, 2006, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Fazal
The rumor is Farouq claimed Mushfiq can bowl too, and thats why he was selected.


ha ha ha! That's hilarious!:D
Faruq now tags Rahim as a bowler!!:lol:

amra_korbo_joy
March 7, 2006, 10:53 AM
Why they did not try to open with Aftab. Aftab proved that he can play pace attack comfortably in many occasion. Besides, he is excellent fielder, match winner and a dependable medium pacer.:mad::mad:



Edited on, March 7, 2006, 3:54 PM GMT, by amra_korbo_joy.

sadi
March 7, 2006, 11:01 AM
NI deserves another chance... he looked good while he was batting..... if he can correct his stupidity, we can see some big innings from him.....

Tigers_eye
March 7, 2006, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by amra_korbo_joy
Why they did not try to open with Aftab. Aftab proved that he can play pace attack comfortably in many occasion. Besides, he is excellent fielder, match winner and a dependable medium pacer.:mad::mad:
One has to be in the team to play. Aftab is not in the team. Worry later why he didn't open.

We have 3 openers in the team and yet you want another middle order who is not in the team to open? Why not allow Ash and K Mashud to open instead? Both can play the pace and proved it several times in the past. The Coach and the selectors knows who should open and who should not. This is not an ODI that the strategy makers will test batsmen into new positions. When you have a strong batting lineup like India and the pitch is dead only then you can test players in different positions.

Fazal
March 7, 2006, 01:08 PM
If Selected, I predict NI will do better this time, but he will be out with same ol same ol silly shot.

esteban_loaiza
March 7, 2006, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by amra_korbo_joy
Why they did not try to open with Aftab. Aftab proved that he can play pace attack comfortably in many occasion. Besides, he is excellent fielder, match winner and a dependable medium pacer.:mad::mad:



Edited on, March 7, 2006, 3:54 PM GMT, by amra_korbo_joy.

Opening with Aftab in test = Chhagol diye jomi chash

esteban_loaiza
March 7, 2006, 01:31 PM
We are relying on our four bowlers pretty much.... whenever we rely on someone, it always turned out to be a disaster. If Sri Lanka have a big partnership then four bowlers might get tired and there would be almost no one to back them up and provide a little variety. Anyway, our main concern is batting, so our team is loaded with specialist batsmen. Who is the 12th man by the way?

Anybody suggests any punishment for Iqbal if he makes any ridiculous shot again?

LateCut
March 7, 2006, 01:33 PM
This is a mistake. Let Rahim play a few A matches before he is thrown into the fire. Let's not destroy his confidence like many others before him.

Sauron
March 7, 2006, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by LateCut
This is a mistake. Let Rahim play a few A matches before he is thrown into the fire. Let's not destroy his confidence like many others before him.

Oh please!

He already played enough matches to prove that he is not afraid of the fire. That's how you forge gold - mold it with fire.

Pre-mature introduction, destroy his confidence, blah blah blah. Don't be a cry-baby. This is not a one-size-fits-all solution. Some people are more ready than others. I doubt that you even saw how he played at Lords.

sadi
March 7, 2006, 01:56 PM
he will be fine..... he is quite matured for his age.... he can take the heat

ASA
March 7, 2006, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Fazal
If Selected, I predict NI will do better this time, but he will be out with same ol same ol silly shot.
Yeah - you said exactly what i was thinking. The kid has class - I hope he gets to utilize it this time - before choosing another stupid ball.

rudro
March 7, 2006, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by LateCut
This is a mistake. Let Rahim play a few A matches before he is thrown into the fire. Let's not destroy his confidence like many others before him.
I thought Mushfiq was the one who gave us the 3-0 series triumph last year against ZIM A (which was much stronger than current ZIM team). Also Mushfiq was part of the A team's tour to England, right?

Hatebreed
March 7, 2006, 03:37 PM
Good to see Mushfiq included in the team... I'm doubtful about NI so I hope he'll stick to the wicket this time

Too bad Masri can't play... it'll be too difficult to bowl SL out twice

Navarene
March 7, 2006, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by sadi
NI deserves another chance...
If Nafees deserves another chance, then Alok deserves another chance in the same token. Alok was quite unlucky to get out in both innings of the 1st test (for the umpires have given the wrong decision against him), where as the way Nafees threw away his wicket was unbelievable! Seems like he tends to forget that it was a Test cricket and not a street cricket at the outskirt of Chittagong city!

I am not satisfied with the selection. Nafees should have been booted. Aftab should have been in. Going with only 4 specialized bowlers is a sheer luxury, since Test cricket is all about taking 20 wickets. We definitely miss an allrounder in our team and Alok would be the justified candidate for that place.

Edited on, March 7, 2006, 8:41 PM GMT, by Navarene.

oracle
March 7, 2006, 03:53 PM
Shahadat looked like he was bowling much tighter. At least if you compare with what he showed at Lords. So i am expecting improvements as his test career progresses. What I am worried about is Enamul. I sincerely doubt he can repeat his 10 wicket bowling feat against this SL side.

Still get the feeling the team is batsman short?

Fazal
March 7, 2006, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by oracle
Still get the feeling the team is batsman short?

Atleast its stronger than last team (on paper). Bowling wise now its pretty much 4 bowler and thats it, not much option left.

The thing that worries me most is Gullu and NI opening the innings. The way Gullu bats now a days give me panic attack... I don't know how he manage to survive for a while though. NI case is completely different. Starts well, build up the iniings and suddenly you see the unexpected.

One is slow death, you know its comming you just wait and wait every time he dodge a bullet. The other one is quick and sudden death by silly shot, when you are expecting somthing great is happening.

Edited on, March 7, 2006, 9:03 PM GMT, by Fazal.

sufism
March 7, 2006, 04:02 PM
I hope rahim does well. But i don't quite agree with the idea to play him in test matches so soon. i hope we r not gonna feel the need of a 5th bowler. Ash is not good enough to fill up the 5th spot. we r badly missiing Mash and Aftab.

sadi
March 7, 2006, 04:03 PM
Definately a bowler short....... either aftab or alok could definately help... maybe bashar is planning to use ashraful this time.... he is the only other bowler available....

pagol-chagol
March 7, 2006, 04:05 PM
So the logic is:

Since Shahriar Nafees played well in the middle order we need to keep Nafis as openner.

If Shahriar Nafees played badly then we would have discarded him and kept Nafis as openner.

I guess Nafis had a bulletproof plot gifted from God.

Fazal
March 7, 2006, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
I guess Nafis had a bulletproof plot gifted from God.
So you are saying NI is slowly becoming the next Alok of Bangladesh Team?

TheWatcher
March 7, 2006, 04:43 PM
I guess all that our management now care is to see the match going beyond the fourth day. Weakening the bowling attack is quite ok with them because,in their thinking, the longer the Lankans bat, the better it is.

reyme
March 7, 2006, 04:48 PM
Wanted to see Aftab in the team in place of NI. But again, based on the fact that Aftab is not fit for 5 days, this is a good team. I am expecting a draw.

pagol-chagol
March 7, 2006, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by TheWatcher
I guess all that our management now care is to see the match going beyond the fourth day. Weakening the bowling attack is quite ok with them because,in their thinking, the longer the Lankans bat, the better it is.

This is not a bad plan. Pretty smart actually. Rain on the 4th and the 5th day in the forecast.

Looks like there is close to 50% chance of draw.

Fazal
March 7, 2006, 04:59 PM
I don't want a draw assited by rain. I would rather take the loss, if we cannot make it by ourselves.

pagol-chagol
March 7, 2006, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Fazal
I don't want a draw assited by rain. I would rather take the loss, if we cannot make it by ourselves.

We would have lost the 1st game even it rained out 9 hours from that game. We would have lost that game even if it rained.

Obviously a 30 hour draw game is better than a 27 hour draw game.

And a 27 hour draw game or lost game is much better than 21 hour lost game.

Fazal
March 7, 2006, 05:47 PM
Its pretty much confirmed that Mushfiq will play at #6 ahead of Pilot and Rajin will be the 12th man.

The only concern is local newspaper claims that he is pretty weak against Spinners. Anyone can validate or invalidate the claim?

Sauron
March 7, 2006, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Fazal
Its pretty much confirmed that Mushfiq will play at #6 ahead of Pilot and Rajin will be the 12th man.

:up:
Great!!!

Originally posted by Fazal
The only concern is local newspaper claims that he is pretty weak against Spinners. Anyone can validate or invalidate the claim?
That depends on which newspaper it is. Unless it is Prothom Alo or Daily Star, I would not trust a claim like that.

Fazal
March 7, 2006, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Sauron
That depends on which newspaper it is. Unless it is Prothom Alo or Daily Star, I would not trust a claim like that.

I think its in DailyStar as well as NewAgeBD.

Sauron
March 7, 2006, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Fazal
Originally posted by Sauron
That depends on which newspaper it is. Unless it is Prothom Alo or Daily Star, I would not trust a claim like that.

I think its in DailyStar as well as NewAgeBD.
Oooh! Then I'm a little worried.

Well, we'll know soon enough. Remember your own advice লুঙ্গি ঝাড়া ... কুফা বিতাড়ন ...

LateCut
March 7, 2006, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Sauron
[quote]Originally posted by LateCut
I doubt that you even saw how he played at Lords.


I was there in person. I have an autograph from him while he was having batting practice. He did not bat very well either.

TheWatcher
March 7, 2006, 07:04 PM
OK, after reviewing all the oneday matches Mushfiq played against Zim A, in the premier league, and at the u/19 level, it seems that SLA's get his wicket more often than others do.

However, I guess, you can all remember that Aftab was not that great against Murali either. So, I think it worth a try to see how Mushfiq handles the situation.

LateCut
March 8, 2006, 09:46 AM
How much did he score in 1st innings? How many ball he lasted? Who claimed his wicket?

I rest my case.

sadi
March 8, 2006, 10:18 AM
looks like he is a little weak against spin... I might be wrong though... if thats the case, maybe he can bat up the order.... batting at number 3 or something..... I don't think Habibul Bashar would do that though as he is doing quite well himself over there....... but tell you what.... its hard for someone as young as mushfiq to come to crease and face murali and when murali is bowling really well...

Flipper
March 8, 2006, 11:22 AM
Not fair to conclude anything, though he needs to improve his technique specially when playing Murali. I thought DW disscussed on playing him back foot. And, about Doosra, will be read as he gains more experience.

Sauron
March 8, 2006, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Sauron
Originally posted by Fazal
Originally posted by Sauron
That depends on which newspaper it is. Unless it is Prothom Alo or Daily Star, I would not trust a claim like that.

I think its in DailyStar as well as NewAgeBD.
Oooh! Then I'm a little worried.

Well, we'll know soon enough. Remember your own advice লুঙ্গি ঝাড়া ... কুফা বিতাড়ন ...


Okay Fazal! Looks like your info from DS was correct. Mushfiq did not look comfy with spin at all.