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khalifa
March 8, 2006, 06:21 PM
Read Utpol Shuvro's column in todays prothom alo -
http://www.prothom-alo.net/v1/newhtmlnews1/category.php?CategoryID=9&Date=2006-03-09

A nice column with statistical facts that HB has a potential to be the all-time great 'Mr. Fifty'. A specialist batsman with highest rate of not converting 50s to 100s, or even bigger innings!
A must read for members who rate Utpol Shuvro as just 'tabloid' writer, should read this.
For the rest, can you explain the reasons behind it - lack of temperament??

cricman
March 8, 2006, 07:31 PM
Sachins the leader w/ 116(with the 100's) i think, This is Bashar's 23rd? Thats very good considering the fact that Bashar has played test cricket for 5 years

mhferdaus
March 8, 2006, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by cricman
Sachins the leader w/ 116(with the 100's) i think, This is Bashar's 23rd? Thats very good considering the fact that Bashar has played test cricket for 5 years

are you talking test or one day?

sachin has high percantage of converting 50s to 100s, his unconverted 50s are about 60 and converted 100s are about 40.

But this is test we are talking about, the best non-conversion rate is of some Carribean players, can not remember his name right now, he scored about 20 50s and no hundred !!!, I wonder if that is even beatable.

cricman
March 8, 2006, 07:44 PM
:sorry: Allan Border is the Leader with 90 in 156 Tests, so Bashar has 22 with this one in 40 Tests.

Cricinfo (http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/STATS/TESTS/BATTING/TRIVIA/MOST_50_PLUS_SCORES_IN_TESTS.html)

mhferdaus
March 8, 2006, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by cricman
:sorry: Allan Border is the Leader with 90 in 156 Tests, so Bashar has 22 with this one in 40 Tests.

Cricinfo (http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/STATS/TESTS/BATTING/TRIVIA/MOST_50_PLUS_SCORES_IN_TESTS.html)

Some peope misunderstood I guess,

Alan made 27 100s out of 90 50s rate : 30 percent

Habib made 3 100s out of 22 50s rate : 13.6 percent

hope now everyone gets it

Flipper
March 8, 2006, 08:25 PM
One of the facts to consider for his dismal conversion rate is because in most of his innings, he has to work on making new partnership as wickets tumble on the other end.

Btw, there is a misconception that Bashar has 50 against all test playing country after his innings of 69 last night. Bashar had a 84 against sri lanka 6 months ago, so he acheived that feat long ago.

pagol-chagol
March 8, 2006, 09:37 PM
I bet he has the record on not converting 50s into 60s. :E

sar2005
March 8, 2006, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by pagol-chagol
I bet he has the record on not converting 50s into 60s. :E

Yeah, probably the ration between fifties and hundreads are not as good as other world stars. But surely he is by far our greatest star. One should not compare any other BD player with him.

zakirc
March 9, 2006, 12:42 AM
Considering the record of other Bangladeshi Batsmen, I will really want to have another few Bashar's in the team.

sar2005
March 10, 2006, 10:40 AM
So, 5 years of test cricket has delivered only one true test class batsman........BASHAR!! If we could have 3 Bashar standard batsman, we could be one of the good test competitor.

The way he played 2nd innings is simply fantastic!!

zakirc
March 10, 2006, 02:37 PM
So true ... Bashar is definitely the Best .... and we criticise him??

yaseer
March 10, 2006, 02:50 PM
He is by far our best batsman......no doubt about that.......

BASHAR WILL BE OUR FIRST CRICKETING LEGEND IN THE COUNTRY.

nannu
March 10, 2006, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by yaseer
He is by far our best batsman......no doubt about that.......

BASHAR WILL BE OUR FIRST CRICKETING LEGEND IN THE COUNTRY.

we allready have a legend :-> nannu.
forgot so soon? u nemokharam :E

FaridpurChicago
March 10, 2006, 03:48 PM
I'm always a great fan of consistency and who else give it with bat. Yes, Rafiq gives it with ball. Don't compare Bashar and Rafiq with anyone else. Two other names might come here. Ash is a big hitter, full of talent, but we can't rely. Mash is consistent with bowl but not consistent in the team.

This is what I wrote about Bashar's match of yesterday in another thread :

Hariharan wanted to finish the match on 3rd day and get his money in short spell.... Then come the matter of Bashar. Bashar was a set batsman. The way he was batting, it looked like he is wall like Ind Captain Dravid. The way he was striking, it looked like he is a match winner like Pak captain Inzi. In fact he was a mixture of both those subcontinent captains. If Bashar weren't given out that way and Rahim would stay for 30/40 deliveries, Tigers could make 300 in this innings. Definitely that would be a fighting score.

sar2005
March 11, 2006, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by FaridpurChicago
............Tigers could make 300 in this innings. Definitely that would be a fighting score.


If our score was 300+, I am sure the match would be draw (with some more rain on 5th day)!