Nadir Shah's umpiring - What did you think?

[billah]

The match with Kenya was Nadir Shah's debut in ODIs. He's been TV umpire for sometime. He works in Bangladesh local tourneys. He comes to the USA often to umpire in California's local cricket. It is encouraging to see another Bangladeshi breaking through the ranks. He comes from a purebred cricketing family, as many of us know.

He looked pretty stylish and composed, but I thought he was also a bit overcautious in the field, to avoid a wrong decision, I guess. What did you guys think of his umpiring? Did he get any decisions wrong? Did he do a fair job? Can we expect him to hang around to inspire more Bangladeshi ex cricketers to follow this career path?

[Anher]

I just want to say..its so unfair all the time all low quality umpires do their job against BD

[Ahmed_B]

Did you read this yet? (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/viewthread.php?tid=16747)
Umpiring on 1st match, from both the BD & PAK umpires, were sometimes annoying. This time not because they gave lots of outs that were not out... rather they did not raise their fingers when they actually should have.

Edited on, March 18, 2006, 6:02 AM GMT, by Ahmed_B.

[Dhakablues]

He gave out some of the really crappy decisions.. He didnt give out few lbws. But more than him,, who the heck was the 3rd umpire? Was he watching the same game?

[FaltuRidwanBhai]

well nadir shah and the other pakistani umpire were not taking any risk. they were calling the third umpire. i think that is much better than giving a wrong decision. as it was nadir shah's first time in international cricket he probably did not want to take any risk. so i think that was a very good step from him. well towards the end he probably did not have given 2-3 lbw decisions which were pretty close. again he gave the benefit of doubt to the batsman which is what an umpire should always do. so overall i would say he did a great job.

[FaltuRidwanBhai]

Originally posted by Dhakablues
He gave out some of the really crappy decisions.. He didnt give out few lbws. But more than him,, who the heck was the 3rd umpire? Was he watching the same game?

yes i think the third umpire really needs some good sleep. i dont think he was seeing the same stuff that we were seeing. probably he was drunk or too sleepy.

[Shafin]

Nadir shah did good,better than many elite panel umpires,with proper care,i think we can finally get an umpire in the elite panel

[Shafin]

Originally posted by Dhakablues
He gave out some of the really crappy decisions.. He didnt give out few lbws. But more than him,, who the heck was the 3rd umpire? Was he watching the same game?
It was our beloved Gomramukho mahbubur chacha :down:

[Flipper]

If I remember it correctly, Ravi Shastry once (during zim series)said that Nadir shah seems to be the best umpire in Bangladesh, and he doesn't understand why a umpire like Mahbubur gets chances ahead of him.

[yaseer]

Nadir Shah looked composed and yes he was over-cautious.
I want him to carry on......at least his personality and approach looked better than the other two (Mahbubur Rahman & Akhtaruddin Shaheen))

[oracle]

i was satisfied. I have'nt seen much of his umpiring to tell you the truth, so it's wait and see but looks promising.

[Miraz]

Nadir Shah was really poor in making decisions. If we continues like this fashion he has got no future in international cricket.

[samircreep]

Um, he has no conception of what a no ball is.Dude, as long as some part of the foot is behind the white line, it's perfectly legit.Poor Mash had to suffer the brunt of his errors.

[thebest]

First of all, he is done ok. To me given not out better than giving wrongly out.
Regarding no ball issue, if I remember correctly in one test match Saqi bowled six no ball and in four of them he got wickets. Umpire did not notice once. The umpire was D Shephard. The match is this http://eap.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2001/PAK_IN_ENG/SCORECARDS/PAK_ENG_T2_31MAY-04JUN2001.html

If Shepard can make mistake on noball I think Nadir Shah entitles. By the way none of the decision has any effect on the result.

[sar2005]

He was not brave enough to make a decision. Alright, knowing the fact that the match was pretty much one sided, he might took this safe stand. But I think we need to look his performance in a tight game where a decision may become very vital. Perhaps we will need to wait for one more serries to see how he comes out in a close match.

[Navarene]

Considering the fact that it was Shah's first ever international match to officiate, I will give him benifit of doubt on some of his flualty decision i.e. no balls and lbw. I liked his appraoch and smartness in the middle compared to kebla kanto Mahbub or Shaheen. He surely will gather experience with officiating more and more matches so lets have some patience.

[Zobair]

He appears to be a competent umpire. However, I feel he is trying too hard. Through his TV-umpiring he has earned himself (deservedly) a reputation of someone who is not afraid to make the tough decisions (bashar's stumping down the leg side by Taibu and Shastri's subsequent praise), and now I think he sees himself as someone who will do the same out in the middle. He appeared so concerned as to not be seen as favouring the home-side he was extra-conservative with his LBW decisions. However his no-balling was not very impressive because it could be either of 2 things: 1) the man needs to brush up on his rules, or 2) he is not properly positioned to make accurate calls. Both are flaws that need to be corrected ASAP. I hope Nadir Shah will review the tapes of his first performance, and put in a better show in the next few ODIs. Its high time we got our umpires represented on the elite panel, purely on merit of course, and Nadir Shah despite his below par performance appears to have the temperament and ability.

[CricTiger]

Originally posted by Zobair
Nadir Shah despite his below par performance appears to have the temperament and ability.

I do agree with you 100%.
And I would like to see Enamul Haque Moni with Nadir Shah. If Moni becomes serious then he will be a good prospect for umpiring too.

[6n4]

Originally posted by Flipper
If I remember it correctly, Ravi Shastry once (during zim series)said that Nadir shah seems to be the best umpire in Bangladesh, and he doesn't understand why a umpire like Mahbubur gets chances ahead of him.

:up: well said bro ! and yap.. mahbub looks awwayz stupid to me . He is not even smart to be thr as an umpire; whenever i saw him thr..i found him giving wrong decision always ! he is very annoying character like CHANNEL I COMMENTATORS:P

[akabir77]

I think he did great job. he called for 3rd ump as all the ump should do in all cases. I dodn;t know which out you guys think that 3rd ump shouldn't have given in the 1st odi? the only controversy was with JO's out and i am 100% sure tikolo took it. the finguers clearly shower wraped around the ball and the ball never touched the ground..... and all the run outs where clear..

[shamster]

Please don't hate me for saying this we need good umpires and we need them on the panel they can only get better by having exposure

[shamster]

Originally posted by CricTiger
Originally posted by Zobair
Nadir Shah despite his below par performance appears to have the temperament and ability.

I do agree with you 100%.
And I would like to see Enamul Haque Moni with Nadir Shah. If Moni becomes serious then he will be a good prospect for umpiring too. Moni an umpire ? wow

[Anher]

too earty to comment!! Umpires do mistakes...lets see does he improves or not

[BagherBacha]

shah was aweful abt no ball decisions especially when bd was bowling.

[BagherBacha]

Originally posted by samircreep
Um, he has no conception of what a no ball is.Dude, as long as some part of the foot is behind the white line, it's perfectly legit.Poor Mash had to suffer the brunt of his errors.



agreed 100%. i just posted abt his no ball call and then i saw ur post. how come he is confused abt no balls (illegal balls according to channel I Pundit)