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Ahmed_B
March 23, 2006, 11:34 PM
Bangladesh confirm final ICC Champions Trophy 2006 place
Brian Murgatroyd
March 23, 2006

Bangladesh confirmed their place in October's ICC Champions Trophy in India with a 20-run victory over Kenya in Fatullah on Thursday.

Only sides in the top 10 of the LG ICC ODI Championship table on 1 April will take part in the tournament and the win by Habibul Bashar's side means they cannot be overtaken by the eleventh-placed Kenya ahead of the cut-off date.

Bangladesh will now play in the preliminary round alongside Sri Lanka, the West Indies and Zimbabwe.

The top two sides from that first, round-robin, stage will then go forward to join the top six sides from the LG ICC ODI Championship table in the second round of the tournament.

The only matter that now needs to be decided ahead of the announcement of the draw for the ICC Champions Trophy 2006 is the final placing of the teams in the top six spots in the table by the cut-off date as that will affect who they play.

India and England are currently fifth and sixth respectively in that table but could swap places if England win both matches between the two sides scheduled to take place before 1 April.

Details of the draw for the ICC Champions Trophy 2006 will be released in due course.

Full details of the current LG ICC ODI Championship and how future results will impact on the table, as well as the LG ICC Player Rankings can be found here

Source: © ICC (http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc-iccct/content/story/241859.html)


Edited on, March 24, 2006, 4:36 AM GMT, by Ahmed_B.

Ahmed_B
March 23, 2006, 11:46 PM
From ICC report...
Bangladesh confirmed their place in October's ICC Champions Trophy in India with a 20-run victory over Kenya in Fatullah on Thursday.

Only sides in the top 10 of the LG ICC ODI Championship table on 1 April will take part in the tournament...
Interesting to see that ICC is calling it as Champ trophy tournament and not Champ trophy Qualifier round. :)

prasad
March 24, 2006, 12:54 AM
unless bd batsmen try to handle pace effectively ...chances of beating wi r slim.and then....there is dwayne smith .

cricman
March 24, 2006, 01:00 AM
We Came really close defending 144 vs WI only to lose by 1 wicket. So we have a chance and their great equalizer has unoffically retired from ODI cricket.

Plus the round robin will take place in India so hopefully we will have an advantage using spin in our favor. But it all depends on what venue BCCI decides to use for the Round Robin.

al Furqaan
March 24, 2006, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by prasad
unless bd batsmen try to handle pace effectively ...chances of beating wi r slim.and then....there is dwayne smith .

doesn't scare me one bit.

had the WI had even schoolground type spinners, you could count us out.

but when pacers such as mcgrath, lee, harmy, and flintoff, ge smacked by ash and aftab, WIndian pacers don't bother me one bit. not on SC pithes.

SL with their spin will be tough tho.

Beamer
March 24, 2006, 01:04 AM
I disagree. Generally the Bangla players ( specially the younger generation and bashar ) are better at playing pace bowlers than quality spinners. WI pacers will trouble them at times with pace but they are often erratic and we will put them away. However, J.O is an exception.

Rabz
March 24, 2006, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by Ahmed_B
From ICC report...
Bangladesh confirmed their place in October's ICC Champions Trophy in India with a 20-run victory over Kenya in Fatullah on Thursday.

Only sides in the top 10 of the LG ICC ODI Championship table on 1 April will take part in the tournament...
Interesting to see that ICC is calling it as Champ trophy tournament and not Champ trophy Qualifier round. :)

oh..c'mon give ICC some credit for being decent enough..
now u dont want them to rub it in our face..ey ??;)

with former world champs like SL and WI playing ....it wud b pretty embarrasing for them to play any qualifiers...
(i suppose ICC couldnt really give a rat's behind about us)

guess now they r giving us a false sense of belongingness

and we r happy to oblige..:rolleyes:

anway...qualifiers or no qualifiers..we r just happy to play and kick some butt...

GO Bangladesh:fanflag:

islam
March 24, 2006, 07:30 AM
Wi and SL will qualify....bd will lose to ZIM....

bd never do well in big games :embaressed:

Hatebreed
March 24, 2006, 07:37 AM
Alrite let's do this! :fire:

imran78
March 24, 2006, 07:43 AM
BD plays pace pretty well. they cant play swing. and if i am not mistaken, west indians dont have any big swingers in their team. theres a good chance of us beating them.

Miraz
March 24, 2006, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by islam
Wi and SL will qualify....bd will lose to ZIM....

bd never do well in big games :embaressed:

A crap idea:sorry:

What do you think about big game

Forget the game against Ken, Zim ....

WC against Pakistan was not big :-/

Natwest against Australia was not big enough:-/

matches against India & Sl was not big either:-/


You people are sick:head: always happy writing negatievs about bangladesh. :mad:

islam
March 24, 2006, 08:01 AM
WC against Pakistan was not big :

Match fixed

Natwest against Australia was not big enough:

When we needed to make the next stage, beating aus again, symonds rolled us 6/19.

I think you can face symonds without getting out 6 times in 30 odd balls.


matches against India & Sl was not big either

Not big, regular ODI's, there are 30 played per side each year. Only finals and ICC tourniments (and the VB/natwest serise) are big games.

On the WI issue, yes WI do not have any spin bowlers, but they have bradshaw who bowled realy well in NZ just now (yes he can swing it). Wi also have a better version of maliga (a player bd strugled with). Named Edwards.

Wi will beat Bd and beat sri lanka. But should focus on beat srilanka (eps of the big 4 don't come. sanath, jaya, muarli, vaas)

Sovik
March 24, 2006, 08:09 AM
we will beat West Indies fair and square

and islam budy, are you from pakistan? coz only pakistanis claim that the match in world cup was fixed and symonds never took 6 wickets in any international matches. so next time try to put correct stats

islam
March 24, 2006, 08:14 AM
Nope im not paki, but the game was fixed

and symonds figures
5/18 vs bd

not quite the 6/19 i said (got a little cnofused). 5/18 still rolled us, and even more economical than what i said :joy:

ahms
March 24, 2006, 08:17 AM
Hello everyone,

Know that WI has more talented players if we compare one on one. But as a team they are not successful at all. On other hand, with collective team effort Bangladesh can and will defeat any team, any time, any where, Inshallah. I mean, players must put 150% to the game. Without Lara WI is beatable with ease. Actually Bangladesh should prepare and look forward to beat WI.

Braveheart
March 24, 2006, 08:24 AM
I really think Bangladesh has a great chance of qualifying to the next round. Zimbabwe should be easily beatable. We played them at the beginning of 2005 and we have definitely improved a lot since then.

West Indies has not improved at all since we played them last time in 2004. Lara is not going to play in the odis and their batting is mediocre at best. On the bowling department they have couple good fast bowlers but nothing the Bangladeshi can’t handle. And their spin bowlers are very poor. We played very well on our last tour and we have improved leaps and bounds since then. On the slow pitches of India Bangladesh have better odds of winning.

Sri Lanka is the only team to be afraid of. But on a good day for us we can certainly give them a good run for the money. If lose to them it would not be all over. We only need to win against the other two to.

If we get to keep all our current pace bowlers out of injuries we would be in a very good position. Only thing we need to worry about is ourselves. If batsmen play up to their potential and bowlers just perform their duty we would easily reach the next round.

Miraz
March 24, 2006, 09:28 AM
Qualifying to the second round will not be easy for Bangladesh. Zimbabwe should not be any more threat to Bangladesh. But the real concern is to beat either Srilanka or WI. Srilanka is a tough choice and BD should concentrate their match against WI. Before ICC champions trophy WI has got no match in the subcontinent. If Bangladesh can exploit the condition of typical subcontinent wicket then the chance will be there.

Bangladesh is now a formidable side in ODI, the only thing to be scared is their unpredictability.

Mahmood
March 24, 2006, 09:34 AM
Bangladesh has recently beaten Sri Lanka, they can do it again with a little luck.

We should beat West Indies, based on recent performence.

If any of you have the luxury to worry about Zimbabwe, go ahead.

Over all, we should win at least 2 out of the 3 matches and move to the main round.

sadi
March 24, 2006, 09:41 AM
The game against WI would be an interesting one... WI is still pretty strong in paper.... They have batsmen like Sarwan, Chanderpaul and Gayle..... But if we can give our 100 percent, they are definately beatable..... but won't be as easy as some people think it will be

Mahmood
March 24, 2006, 09:48 AM
If we do manage a win against Sri Lanka or West Indies, it wont be easy for sure...it will be a hard faught, nail biting, heart wrecking win.

Carte Blanche
March 24, 2006, 09:51 AM
Bangladesh will now play in the preliminary round alongside Sri Lanka, the West Indies and Zimbabwe.

Looks like we have a good chance of winning 2 out of 3 if we get our acts together :D

betaar
March 24, 2006, 10:12 AM
When BD and WI play eash other- both teams will have to fight the 3rd enemy which is themselves. Who ever succeeds in doing so should have no problem beating their opponent.

I think WI will win 6 out of 10 matches against BD, but their batting is as veulnerable as BD under prressure. But bowiling wise I think BD is more balanced and will be able win the match if our batsman can score 250-260.

FaltuRidwanBhai
March 24, 2006, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Beamer
I disagree. Generally the Bangla players ( specially the younger generation and bashar ) are better at playing pace bowlers than quality spinners. WI pacers will trouble them at times with pace but they are often erratic and we will put them away. However, J.O is an exception.

well JO will get out anyway regardless of the boler.

prasad
March 24, 2006, 10:29 AM
since it an icc tourney ..lara will play surely.if injuries r not the concern...wi bowling attack willb taylor/best,edwards,bradshaw,bravo..bd has improved but playing consistent 85+mph bowling is still a concern.bd has higher chances of beating sl.but frankly,i dont c bd beating wi.i hope bd and wi qualify.

Ak
March 24, 2006, 04:01 PM
It'l be a good game between Bang and WI - Hopefully we can do it!:cool: But I doubt we'd beat SL with their full strenght side! All these people say is that we beat SL, we beat SL, we beat SL but you have to remember that SL had rested 4 1st teamers plus the very exciting Tharanga didn't play in that game we won. We should beat Zimbabwe easily and give WI a good game but people who can jump into conclusions that we can win all three games have to realise that this is a young team.;)

Tigers_eye
March 24, 2006, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by islam
Wi and SL will qualify....bd will lose to ZIM....

bd never do well in big games :embaressed:
Can't believe I tried to defend the same guy in another thread. :head::head::head::head::head::head::head::head::h ead:

Mr-khan
March 24, 2006, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by islam
WC against Pakistan was not big :

Match fixed



Source?

Fahim
March 24, 2006, 04:56 PM
i think bangladesh will beat zimbabwe and WI but not sri lanka. they will finish second place. InshAllah!

sunniath
March 25, 2006, 09:13 PM
thats my prediction as well.bcb should arrange another 4 match series with wi as soon as lara retires.then a tournament with zim,kenya and wi.our ranking will go through the roof in no time.:cool:

Tehsin
March 25, 2006, 10:05 PM
I am hoping for a win against Zimbabwe.
With WI, the chances are 50-50. Not because we are on equal strenght but because of the notorious inconsistency of the WI lot.
Sl without Vaas and Murali could lose to Bangladesh 50-50.


There is a good chance for us to make it big in the champs trophy but a lot will depend on our batsmen being consistent and aggresive.

Bancan
March 25, 2006, 10:25 PM
i m not so good in history. correct me if i m wrong but isnt the carribeans the current champs of the icc trophy.

i m sure lara will play. and if he becomes the old B C Lara again we will hav some troubles. but still we can beat them. and the zims. we can beat them easily.(i hope so) . sri lanka. i dont think we can beat them again

Bancan
March 25, 2006, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by sunniath
thats my prediction as well.bcb should arrange another 4 match series with wi as soon as lara retires.then a tournament with zim,kenya and wi.our ranking will go through the roof in no time.:cool:
how can u talk about lara's retirement. i no he is gonna retire, but dont remind me man. it hurts

prasad
March 26, 2006, 12:51 AM
lara will surely play in the champions trophy.anyway his form has not been good in the odi's recently.no hard feeling,still i feel bd has more chances of beating sl than wi.funny thing will b if bd beats sl,sl beats wi and wi beats bd.so evry match may b important due to runrate situation.

Edited on, March 26, 2006, 5:52 AM GMT, by prasad.

Ahmed_B
March 26, 2006, 02:31 AM
These champ trophy matches are probably the most challenging for BD in recent times. BD has always been participating in multi-national tournaments... but always as simple participant. For the first time ever... they might be considered as one of the 3 candidates(along with WI & SL) for the last 2 places in Champ trophy final round.

BD should take the Aussi tour very seriously to improve their level.... and work hard on every weaknesses before these matches in Champ trophy preliminary round start.

Edited on, March 26, 2006, 7:33 AM GMT, by Ahmed_B.

scoilaheez
March 26, 2006, 05:38 AM
I think Bd should consider taking Enamul Haque Jnr to play against at least the zims.

If we r to beat WI then we would need to dismiss Gayle and Sarwan with our lethal new ball combo.

I also think playing Shahadat may prove too much of a risk but should be in the squad to prepare Bd for what will come from the Windies.

What happened to Tushar Imran? I thought he used to be a fantastic strokemaker and especially could slog in the final overs? Is he a chance breaking back in the team in the future?

AsifTheManRahman
March 26, 2006, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by Ahmed_B
BD should take the Aussi tour very seriously to improve their level.... and work hard on every weaknesses before these matches in Champ trophy preliminary round start.
Edited on, March 26, 2006, 7:33 AM GMT, by Ahmed_B.

i agree. how we fare against the lankans and the windies will depend a lot on our performance against the OZ's; the series may act as a confidence booster if we do well, and we've seen on quite a few occassions in the past what a good knock or two from even one batsman can do to the spirit of the entire team.

6alltheway
March 26, 2006, 06:35 AM
ok we can beat West indies and zimbos so we should make it through with sri lanka.

prasad
March 26, 2006, 08:20 AM
ok...u will remember me after the qualification round is finished.sl is much easier for bd.

Ak
March 26, 2006, 08:28 AM
Naa SL are harder than WI with their full strenght eleven playing No doubt at all. But WI are definately considering the ICC Champs Trophy will be played in India so conditions should suit us but the SL's will be ruthless and too good for us! Hopefully we'l beat WI - depends on the day if the guys are up for the fight!:fanflag:

msrajani
March 26, 2006, 09:17 AM
i think lara will not play but what about gayle attacking batsman and a spinner

prasad
March 26, 2006, 09:26 AM
lara will surely play.big men love big stage.

Miraz
March 26, 2006, 09:27 AM
Neither Srilanka nor WI are easy opponents by any standard. We have to play real good cricket to beat them. If Lara is not playing the chances against WI will increase by at least 50%. I agree with Ahmed_B our series against aussies will be a real key to judge our progress. If we lose in all 3 ODI, I don't mind but at least want to see we are fighting in every game and scoring 250+ run in each match.

Edited on, March 26, 2006, 2:40 PM GMT, by Miraz.

cricket_pagla
March 26, 2006, 09:37 AM
Bangladesh er champios hote hole.. kun kun team ke harate hobe?:karate:

BanglaCool
March 26, 2006, 10:21 AM
I think, prasad excepted, most BC members favour WI for a BD win because of the fragility of their batsmen.

nightwatchman
March 26, 2006, 10:42 AM
souce: Justice Kaiyum's report

wasim akram and salim malik gave away the the match while Saclain and other's wathced it in disbelief....

Judge admited that he let Akram got away cause he was a huge Akram fan..
hmmmmmmmmm

prasad
March 26, 2006, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by BanglaCool
I think, prasad excepted, most BC members favour WI for a BD win because of the fragility of their batsmen.

you got me wrong.wi batting is a problem yes.but more than that bd's problems in facing fast bowling is more serious.once they manage get over that it will b a evn match.bashar and ashraful always try high risk shots gainst pace.it doesnt take much time for fast bowlers to sort them out.

al Furqaan
March 26, 2006, 01:13 PM
you got me wrong.wi batting is a problem yes.but more than that bd's problems in facing fast bowling is more serious.once they manage get over that it will b a evn match.bashar and ashraful always try high risk shots gainst pace.it doesnt take much time for fast bowlers to sort them out.


could not disagree with you more.

first off, bashar and ash play risky shots against anyone, spinner, pacer alike. recently though ash has shown (at least against quality opposition) a desire to settle down at the crease.

bangladeshi batsman are now waaaaay better playing fast bowling then they are against spinners. ash, aftab, and shahriar nafees could, on their day at least, take any fast bowler to the cleaners.

whereas your cousin, who is a part time leggie, would prolly trouble most BD batsman. sad, yes i know.

if you need proof, look at what murali did in the last 4 tests against bangladesh and compare with vaas, fernando, and malinga.

also look how ashraful, aftab, and SN bashed mcgrath, lee, harmison, and flintoff in ENGLAND over 2-3 matches, not just a 10 over spree.

bottom line, whilst bangladesh is capable of beating anyone...they are waaaaaaaay more likely of beating WI (almost 50-50) then they are Sri Lanka.

i think you believe otherwise because we have beaten SL once and never WI.

Edited on, March 26, 2006, 6:13 PM GMT, by al Furqaan.

prasad
March 26, 2006, 01:47 PM
bd were trying some outrageous shots against murali.that was the problem.playing defensive is easier against spin than against fast men(85-87+).i still cant forget how bd played against lawson in bd.and they were not trying outrageous shots then.

ok then take a bet,i bet sl-bd match will b closer than bd-wi.then u shud not post here for a month after the qualification round.i will do the same obviously if i am wrong.

ps:dont get me wrong.i'll b happy if wi and bd get through to the champs trophy.

al Furqaan
March 26, 2006, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by prasad
bd were trying some outrageous shots against murali.that was the problem.playing defensive is easier against spin than against fast men(85-87+).i still cant forget how bd played against lawson in bd.and they were not trying outrageous shots then.

ok then take a bet,i bet sl-bd match will b closer than bd-wi.then u shud not post here for a month after the qualification round.i will do the same obviously if i am wrong.

ps:dont get me wrong.i'll b happy if wi and bd get through to the champs trophy.

not posting here for a month...can't do that. i am too important here. i am the only member here whose posts i agree with 100% of the time. :lol:

at any rate, without the wager, your own. lets bet for bragging rights. i say the bangladesh-WI match will be closer than BD-SL. its a risky bet for both of us.

so even if bangladesh win both, if they beat WI by a greater margin then SL, i win.

and also, nafees iqbal and javed omar both got out to defending murali.

lawson, for all his exploits, is not a permenent guy in WIndies lineup. whereas, our team is a completely different team at least in terms of self-confidence and belief and abilities.

and you should really have a look at ashraful's batting against england in the multimedia section.

prasad
March 26, 2006, 11:39 PM
:Di knew u wud not agree to this.this your no1 cricketing mb.its no2 for me.i post more on a wi website.:umm:ok agree to all the terms.bragging rights.fine.

prasad
March 30, 2006, 01:33 AM
ok......its clear lara will play the odi's to b matchfit fot wc 07.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/sports1.html

nayef
March 30, 2006, 10:46 AM
its a bit ironic for the defending champions to play in the qualifiers!

prasad
March 30, 2006, 11:08 AM
blame the icc.in a way...it is fair though.wi isnt exactly in a winning form.
just searched through cricinfo and found this...

lara's 100 (http://www.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/1999/OCT/005860_CI_09OCT1999.html)

sar2005
March 30, 2006, 11:19 AM
Prasad, thanks for burning our old injury. Whoever what says, he is really a genious.

prasad
March 30, 2006, 11:25 AM
seriously,i hope wi and bd go through.sl is such a boring team.sl-bd-wi..shud b one amazing qualifier round.cant wait for it to begin.

nayef
March 30, 2006, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by prasad
blame the icc.in a way...it is fair though.wi isnt exactly in a winning form.
just searched through cricinfo and found this...

lara's 100 (http://www.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/1999/OCT/005860_CI_09OCT1999.html)

If i remember correctly, bashar ended up with figures of 1/31 from 10 overs in that game.. was one of the most economical performances by a BD bowler. He can boast that his first wicket in ODIs was of a living legend!
I watched the game live.. and it was simply amazing seeing Lara bat.