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cricman
March 26, 2006, 09:35 PM
I think we all know that he's gonna be gone after the World Cup(unless BCB throws a boatload of cash at him). I hope our players can show the improvements that we've made in the Test arena in these tests vs Australia rather then get blown away for 150 and let Austrlia declare on 440/4.

So since this will most likely be his last Tests, unless we get to play another test before the WC. Here's a wishlist of mine that i'd like see in this series to show that all of his efforts haven't been put to waste.

- Score 350+ in our first innings
- Bowl the Aussies out in their first innings
- put up a real fight in our second innings
- Take a Test to the 5th day(could care less if it's for 5 overs)
- Show a balanced attack in our batting rather than relying on Ashraful and Bashar to score 75% of our runs.
- Most Important Jump on them April 9th. There only gonna have 3 days to prepare because of the SA tour. So this will be our best chance to make an impression on them.

Some of these are pretty hefty considering who were playing but i don't want DW to defend us after the tests rather i'd like our play in the field to show that we belong.

One World
March 26, 2006, 09:57 PM
Tell us about Bret Lee. How much should our players' be scared off?

Hatebreed
March 26, 2006, 10:01 PM
Who is likely to coach us if Dav is gone?

Sham
March 26, 2006, 10:07 PM
I actually think that we should get a new coach next year. I'll be the first to give credit to DW for what he has done for BD cricket. I think at the time he became the coach of the national team, we couldnt have gotten anyone better than him to take us forward.

But I don't think any coach should stay on for much more than 4 or 5 years. An injection of new ideas and style will be useful for our team after the next world cup. And also, after 4 years, you'd hope our team has got what it can get out of DW.

The one thing we must ensure is that we get the right person to take us forward from where DW leaves off. If we don't do that, we run the risk of not only not going forward but also undoing some of the good work that DW has done!

Dhakablues
March 26, 2006, 10:59 PM
My gutt feel tells me this is not Dav Watmores last test series. I dont think the players have learnt all they have from him. Right now they just started to understand what he actually says... it will take them couple years more to get the actual coaching into their head..

Stumped
March 27, 2006, 12:03 AM
A boatload of cash is not gonna do anything... he took up this job in the first place wanting to do as much good as he could for the BD team. IF he leaves then it will be for family as they are together mabe 2-3 months of the year. We all want the best for the team and we hope they have learned and will continue to learn as time goes by. Lets just see what happens and support the guys for now... the world cup is a long time away...

Rabz
March 27, 2006, 01:03 AM
if this is his last test series for us....isnt it funny in a way??

his first assignment was against Aussies back in 03
and his last assignment would be against the same Aussies !!

personally, i dont think he is going to stay with BD cricket..

over the past 3 yrs..i'd say he has done a great job for the team..
under his coaching..we have won more matches then ever, and the time he is leaving..we have a formidable team to fight back against any team in the world...

but i guess his job is not done yet...
he has still go to see off the WC in 07...

best of luck to DW and Bangladesh

BD_Ashraful
March 27, 2006, 02:14 AM
i think steve waugh would coach BD after DW goes. But Dav Watmore has been the most sucessful coach in Bangaldesh history. I hope DW can coach bangaldesh after a World Cup

Ejaj
March 27, 2006, 02:56 AM
Well. though it will be sad to loose DW.. but.. If Bd could manage to get Richard M. then .. i belive it would help bd team a lot. Many of the present team players are the result of his success. RM will be a much more helpful for them.

Miraz
March 27, 2006, 07:23 AM
I don't think Dav has nothing more to contribute for BD cricket. I think he should be with us for another 3-4 years. Its not so easy find a coach of his calibre.

If he decides to go, BCB should try to convince him with better deal. If that fails BCB should bring new coach either from Australia or South Africa. No more subcontinent coach.

Enough experiment is done:sorry:

fwullah
March 27, 2006, 08:22 AM
I only know that no good coach has left Bangladesh without any conflict with BCB officials / poor results.

I just hope that Dav Whatmore doesn't bid bye to us with either of the above two things.

Warlock
March 27, 2006, 09:40 AM
Dav has done great things with our team. I pay my respect to him. But I also think it is time for Dav and also for the BD team to move forward. Bd team is a good prospect for any coach- the job has a lot of challenge and is not as hopeless as coaching Zimbabwe or Kenya.
I think it is clear now that those days are over when we got beaten in each and every match. BD team play more entertaining cricket now which is highlighted by batsmen like Aftab and Nafees. We have a good U-19 system that will keep on providing future players. So our next target would be to cement our position as a rising team and try to overtake WI within the next few years (I believe we can do that). We need a new coach who is ready to take us to that new level.
Lastly, as my personal opinion- I think we should select an Aussie/ or English coach. Of course coaches from the sub-continent are very good too. But I think BD team still need a more strict coaching system that sticks to the basics and try to develop the players in a systematic kind of way. The Aussie or Brit coaches are really good in those things.

Edited on, March 27, 2006, 2:42 PM GMT, by Warlock.

nayef
March 27, 2006, 09:54 AM
Even if DW leaves now, I'd say he's done a phenomenal job... compared to where we were when he took over.

Flipper
March 27, 2006, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Ejaj
... it will be sad to loose DW..

Don't say it, Dav is a "Professional". :-/

Edited on, March 27, 2006, 9:38 PM GMT, by Flipper.

6alltheway
March 27, 2006, 04:39 PM
No doubt DW has done a good job and we thank him hugely for that. But its time to move on and time for a change

jayed
March 27, 2006, 04:56 PM
HOW ABOUT GETTIN WASIM AS FAST BOWLING COACH, ABDUL QADIR AS SPINNING COACH AND IMRAN KHAN AS MAIN COACH.

and if we try, we could get some1 like javed miandad 4 batting coach....

Dhakablues
March 27, 2006, 05:32 PM
and then change the team name to Pakistan A team?

FaridpurChicago
March 27, 2006, 06:01 PM
Thanks god, you chose Imran as coach, not as a captain !! Not a bad idea though !

I think whatmore has lot more. But I also think we need to change. Lets see how it works after a change. Our Ash, Aftab learned a lot but struggling to apply consistently last two years. Who knows, a new coach might be better. I like Bob wolmer among all the current coaches.
Let's try someone new.

Edited on, March 27, 2006, 11:04 PM GMT, by FaridpurChicago.

brikonwall
March 27, 2006, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Dhakablues
and then change the team name to Pakistan A team?

ha ha ha ha...dude, you are funny...

:joy::joy::joy:

moinkhan
March 27, 2006, 06:17 PM
Here's what I found on ICC's FTP. If these are not outdated, BD will play 3 more test series before WC. So, BD-AUS might not be the last test series for DW with us.

September 2006:
Bangladesh host India

December 2006:
New Zealand host Bangladesh

February 2007:
Bangladesh host England


Source: http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/test/future_tours/2006.html

TheWatcher
March 27, 2006, 06:22 PM
I will love to have Steve Waugh as our coach. He has no experience in the job, but with a cricketing mind like him, I don't think it matters. What is he upto nowadays anyway?

Other than him, John Wright should be the first option BCCB should consider. With his coaching experience with India and Kent, he should be a natural choice for us. Also, our batters being our main headache, I think Wright has lot to offer here.

Steve Rixon (currently coaching Surrey) might be another option BCCB should consider.

About Bob Woolmer, what I read from cricinfo, he is seriously considering to retire from coaching job after the coming world cup.

Hasib
March 27, 2006, 06:30 PM
The heading is misleading... thought it was some sort of breaking news... so change it .... Its not like this is our last test series before the World Cup

Edited on, March 27, 2006, 11:32 PM GMT, by Hasib.

TheWatcher
March 27, 2006, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by moinkhan
Here's what I found on ICC's FTP. If these are not outdated, BD will play 3 more test series before WC. So, BD-AUS might not be the last test series for DW with us.

September 2006:
Bangladesh host India

December 2006:
New Zealand host Bangladesh

February 2007:
Bangladesh host England


Source: http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/test/future_tours/2006.html
India is not hosting/touring us before the World Cup for sure. England will be also too busy playing in the VB series to visit us in February, 2007. NZ is probably looking for other options for better match practice before the VB series and the World Cup, though they have not yet confirmed anything for the month of December.

Edited on, March 27, 2006, 11:41 PM GMT, by TheWatcher.
Reason: typo

Ishtylish cricketer
March 27, 2006, 07:32 PM
It would be sad to see him leave for all that he has done for us. I too don't think that dollars will make him stay. On the other hand i remember seeing this interview where Steve Waugh said that he would love to coach a developing country such as Bangladesh and I for one would welcome this with both of my arms.

SMHasan
March 27, 2006, 07:44 PM
To loose Dave would be a big loss for us so we should try to keep him as long as possible. He gave us a lot and still lot of things can be taken from him. He is a wonderful character.

Some people might say its better to have a change but I think Bangladesh have just started to get the result of an enterprise which began few years ago. If we keep DW for another term surely we will do something good in near future. Another thing is -DW now knows ins and outs of our team so its better to have him for some more yrs.

Ehsan
March 27, 2006, 08:04 PM
I want a new coach too. We definitely need a batting coach and a fast bowling coach for young talents like Shahadat, Russel, and Masri. May be the fast bowling coach can also contribute to pace hunt bowlers.

I remember we were going to hire someone for the fast bowlers, does anybody have any update on that?

Edited on, March 28, 2006, 1:06 AM GMT, by Ehsan.

realElastic
March 28, 2006, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by One World
Tell us about Bret Lee. How much should our players' be scared off?

Scared ? Well he's not coming to eat players, just to bowl at them.

No one should be scared of Bret Lee. Just play him. That'll make a difference.

Ahmed_B
March 28, 2006, 06:52 AM
I'm afraid I can't agree with ICC's decision to not give BD any test matches for the next 1 year. BD is currently on an upward learning curve and this will hamper their progress quite a lot.

sayem
March 28, 2006, 09:08 AM
I think DW should stay for another 3-4 years with BD. He has done a fantastic job with his dyanimic coaching methods as opposed to old fashioned style and and given the state of BD cricket, he should be given a generous rewards for staying on..worse comes to worse, if DW leaves after wc 2007 BD could replace him with other high profile coaches for example:

* Dave Houghton - Former Zimbabwean opener and current Derbyshire head coach.

* Steve Rixon - Former Aussi keeper, Kwis and Surrey coach

* Tom Moody - Former worcstershire coach and current SL coach

* Geofry Marsh - Former Zimbabwe coach

* Rodney Marsh - In my opinion, one of the toughest man around.

What do u guyes think?

Raja
March 28, 2006, 09:38 AM
I prefer Bob Wolmer. He is the most techno coach in cricket world.

FaridpurChicago
March 28, 2006, 11:01 AM
I preferred Bob Wolmer. Yes, he wanted to retire but a good proposal may motivate him changing his decision. Don't recommend Tom Moody. Ami jani na O SL player der shathe ki mood dekhaise. Keno na, or join korar aage SL chilo number 2; athocho ekhon Zimbabwe er moto champion trophy-r relegation e harbe !!

zakirc
March 28, 2006, 01:57 PM
As far as I remember .. .about six months ago DW indicated in an interview that other boards are showing interest in him and he might leave on Financial Grounds. I do not blame him, he is a professional and has to make his living by coaching. A professional should maximize his income during the years he can.

His contribution to BD team has been phenomenal. And apart from his unwillingness to have a full-time bowling coach, I really dont have much to complain. As for his job with BD team, it is far from over. Remember, this person took SL to win the WC ... so history says he is capable to contribute much more for the BD team. We may not agree to all of his coaching methods (Like I ddn't a few lines back), but it sure is effective.

In case DW leaves, since Steve Wuagh expressed his interest, I would be very happy to see him as BD coach. A cricketing mind like that is capable of defining coaching methodology .. so his lack of experience in coaching does not matter to me.

Edited on, March 28, 2006, 6:57 PM GMT, by zakirc.

prasad
March 28, 2006, 02:43 PM
bd cricket is improving at a rapid rate.firing him after the wc will b a foolish decision.try visiting any message board(ind,wi,pak,sl,aus..) the attitude towards bd cricket is more positive.i feel bd shud take something from ecb.ecb looks duncan fletcher as a long term coach and r reaping the benefits.bd shud do the same.even the losses of bd these days r not that bad.there is always some fight in bd matches.

mafizraju
March 28, 2006, 04:30 PM
I dont think it will be good decesion to let him go. BCCB is way more richer now than what they used to be 2-3years ago. So I dont see any reason for them not to retain him. For steve wagh or any other big name in the game its hard to say how good of a coach he would make. Hardly any great player made a great coach. However Steve can be used in this country for sure, Steve can be a great coach for age group cricketers. He can be of mighty influence on young minds. But end of the day question remains whether bd can manage such a high profile cricketer as a coach at any level?

Nazmul
March 28, 2006, 04:54 PM
he is a brilliant coach and he proved it trough bd criocket too.
1. victory against australia
2. against india
3.srilanka

sayem
March 28, 2006, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by prasad
bd cricket is improving at a rapid rate.firing him after the wc will b a foolish decision.try visiting any message board(ind,wi,pak,sl,aus..) the attitude towards bd cricket is more positive.i feel bd shud take something from ecb.ecb looks duncan fletcher as a long term coach and r reaping the benefits.bd shud do the same.even the losses of bd these days r not that bad.there is always some fight in bd matches.

BCB is not looking to fire DW in any ways...its matter of him staying for as long as possible, this is what BCB wants. DW to stay for long as possible....