ASHRAFUL waiting for AUSTRALIA

[tanvir_nus]

I know most of the people here are frustrated with ashraful. But no body can even doubt a little bit about how destructive he can be. The article in prothom alo gives us a little hope for the future. Many were expecting great knocks from him against Kenya. But to me it didn't really matter. Because the team was winning, and more importantly he was being reserved.

A very good sign, he is waiting for Australia now to make up the loss. While people like S.Nafees and R.Saleh are self motivated to work hard, the natural talent wonders like Ashraful wait for the big match and the occassion to impress. Against Australia, and at home, it doesn't get bigger than this.

I have a very strong feeling that Ashraful will fire big time this series in both ODIs and Tests. Specially in the ODIs.

So I am sitting here, waiting for the aussies, but i won't be surprised if Ashraful single-handedly gifts us victories. :fanflag:

Ashraful's vengence (http://www.prothom-alo.net/v1/newhtmlnews1/category.php?CategoryID=9&Date=2006-03-29)

[Shaan]

Originally posted by tanvir_nus
I know most of the people here are frustrated with ashraful. But no body can even doubt a little bit about how destructive he can be. The article in prothom alo gives us a little hope for the future. Many were expecting great knocks from him against Kenya. But to me it didn't really matter. Because the team was winning, and more importantly he was being reserved.

A very good sign, he is waiting for Australia now to make up the loss. While people like S.Nafees and R.Saleh are self motivated to work hard, the natural talent wonders like Ashraful wait for the big match and the occassion to impress. Against Australia, and at home, it doesn't get bigger than this.

I have a very strong feeling that Ashraful will fire big time this series in both ODIs and Tests. Specially in the ODIs.

So I am sitting here, waiting for the aussies, but i won't be surprised if Ashraful single-handedly gifts us victories. :fanflag:

Ashraful's vengence (http://www.prothom-alo.net/v1/newhtmlnews1/category.php?CategoryID=9&Date=2006-03-29)

I guess talent is there when you perform best then others,, talent is what you are capable of doing things with ease,, I feel Ashraful is now a days more concern about his performance, and that is really great for him and for Bd as well for Bangladeshis.

I guess there are plenty of talented young players in bd team, so, in my opinion instead of talent just as a excuse it should be matter of how one apply himself in the adverse situation of a game...

[Cricket Crazy]

I want Ashraful to teach those Aussies a lesson. :joy::fanflag::lol:

[Ahmed_B]

I have read the article today. It really sounded like a silly excuse from the selectors saying "perhaps Ashraful is for big opponents only"... and even Ash's own excuse "I struggled in Kenya series because they were bowling slow" also sounded pretty silly to me.

Esob faltu kotha na bole Ash should just say "I feel sorry that I could not perform" and simply move on.

[thebest]

As I mentioned in another thread he is more talented talk show host than batsman. He is never short of excuses. Let all his well wishers close to him tell him to talk with the bat

[Miraz]

I think this sort excuses will destroy Ashraful as a batsman. He is a class batsman and was out against Kenya playing some really poor shots. A good batsman can play against any opposition.

Ashraful played some good innings for Sonargaon Cricketers this year playing against similar slow bowlers in the domestic cricket.

This boy has to concentrate on his batting and not throwing out wickets and later finding excuses.

[BanglaCool]

..So if Australia bowls like kenya, what will his excuse be?

[khalifa]

I agree with the general tone of this thread, Ash is genious at fabricating excuses, he really should talk with his bat. Also, the author mentioned that there is a cycle of 7 innings for him to score a good inning, which would surpass this series with AUS.
With that said, I'm also hoping a better performance from ASH like you all.

[sadi]

A good batsman don't have an average of 20. If you are a good batsman, you score runs against any opposition doesn't matter whether they are good or bad. If he can't motivate himself against kenya or zimbabwe, we definately have some problems.

[HereWeGo]

He also struggled against zimbabwe..... don worry guys.. he is just being himself. If the trend continues than we hope that he will do better against australia.

[fishyguy]

Enough with the Ashraful worshipping threads.

This is the stupidest idea ever that he will play better against the Aussies because apparently he plays better against the strong teams.

Stop singling him out already like Indians do with Sachin Tendulkar.

And stop making a big deal everytime he fails. Hasnt he failed enough times to show that he isnt consistant.

So dont expect big things from him everytime.

Guys MOVE ON!!

[Tigers_eye]

Ash needs to have a helmet with a head phone and listen to the follwing words.

"Calm down"
"There is a fielder in the mid-on and long-on. Ponting put them their to get me out. Lee is giving short balls on the leg side just so I try to hook or pull to those fielders."

"Calm down. Coach asked me to carry the bat this session."

"Relax, I did it once, I can do that again."

"Relax. This is our home ground, with the home crowd looking upto me. I can't fall into ponting's trap."

"Calm down, The team needs me. I'll take care of braken's yorkers."

We will see nothing short of a century for sure from him then.

[nightwatchman]

he sould leave cricket and join Hamid Bhai in the commentry box..
Sick of these so called talents
Never seen him playing with front foot

[exotic]

Originally posted by Cats_eye
"There is a fielder in the mid-on and long-on. Ponting put them their to get me out. Lee is giving short balls on the leg side just so I try to hook or pull to those fielders."



I think Ponting will be better off to put fielders in the Deep fine leg and Square Leg to get him out Hooking and Pulling. But I don't see him getting out in that fashion. Those stupid miss timed lofted drives (alongwith khochas/slashes toward slips/gully) over mid-off and mid-on done the trick most of the time in the past. Lets hope he plays sensibly this time, no doubt he got the talent.

[fishyguy]

Heres my prediction.

I'll be generous and say Ashraful wont get fast 50 in any of the test matches.

And if he does he has earned my respect.

[cricket_pagla]

:duh: wat abt AFTAB??

[Sauron]

Ash has a valid point about pace of Kenya Vs Aussie bowling.

[ASA]

Originally posted by Sauron
Ash has a valid point about pace of Kenya Vs Aussie bowling.
I can't believe I'm hearing this ... so let me ask BanglaCool's question again "..So if Australia bowls like kenya, what will his excuse be?" Or are the Aussies too stupid to figure out that Ash can't play slow ... so they'll keep bowling fast?!! :pig:

[ASA]

Originally posted by sadi
A good batsman don't have an average of 20. If you are a good batsman, you score runs against any opposition doesn't matter whether they are good or bad. If he can't motivate himself against kenya or zimbabwe, we definately have some problems.
Infact, this was a great chance to improve this sorry average which he apparently missed. Shariar Nafees, JO and Aftab made a good use of this opportunity ... and that's exactly how their averages should be improved. We should not forget that many good players and teams have actually made records on our backs. If Ash is waiting for 'blue' runs against good teams only ... we have to wait pretty long to see his average improve.

I mean it ... :head:

[Sauron]

Originally posted by ASA
Originally posted by Sauron
Ash has a valid point about pace of Kenya Vs Aussie bowling.
I can't believe I'm hearing this ... so let me ask BanglaCool's question again "..So if Australia bowls like kenya, what will his excuse be?" Or are the Aussies too stupid to figure out that Ash can't play slow ... so they'll keep bowling fast?!! :pig:

One of the very successful Bangladeshi bowlers (when overall success was limited anyway) was Aminul Islam Bulbul. His deliveries were so slow, that the batsmen usually could swing his bat twice by the time the ball arrived (really).

Stroke makers always have problems with deliveries that don't come on to the bat. Ash is suffering from that.

a little innovative footwork and a little more patience can get Ashraful over this problem. Unfortunately he has not been able to muster that yet.

To asnwer your question - "..So if Australia bowls like kenya, what will his excuse be?" - the answer is "same excuse". Which is exactly why we need hard sporting wickets for the Aussie series, rather than slow turning ones that will reduce Bret Lee et al to Kenyas level.

Please read my response before knee-jerking into another retort.

[istiak]

His excuse against Kenya is complete rubbish. Next time he might say “I only like full toss underarm bowling”. How Rajin and Nafees were scoring then?

[sadi]

Originally posted by Sauron


To asnwer your question - "..So if Australia bowls like kenya, what will his excuse be?" - the answer is "same excuse". Which is exactly why we need hard sporting wickets for the Aussie series, rather than slow turning ones that will reduce Bret Lee et al to Kenyas level.



Oh come on Sauron.... so if every team starts bowling like that, how long do you think Ash can give that excuse?? Excuse is always an excuse.... and trust me, Kenya's bowling wasn't that slow that he couldn't time the ball.... It shouldn't even be an excuse... doesn't matter how your opponent bowls, you need to make your runs

[Sauron]

Okay, I need to clarify a bit further.

As I mentioned in my previous post - Ash needs more innovative footwork and little more patience to deal with bowling like Kenya's. This totally jives with what your earlier statement was. Ash is talented, but NOT the great batsman that many of us think he is.

He is giving an excuse, and I am not okay with him giving excuses. I am not trying to justify or advocate his excuse.

My main point is - the guy is not lying. His excuse is not a good one, but it is not something he just made up either.

[khalifa]

RAB should confiscate Ash's new Toyota, for batting irresponsibly throughout the KEN series...........:head:

[sar2005]

Some of us went crazy to support his excuse. There is no place of such comments in this level of cricket. All the slowing bowling attack teams should then start winning their mathces by grabbing good batsman cheaply. I don't understand how stupid this Ashraful is. He should start consulting experts before talking to journalists.

Edited on, March 29, 2006, 7:00 PM GMT, by sar2005.

[nayef]

ashraful needs a sports psychologist or a yoga trainer...

matty hayden grabbed the opportunity to score 380 against a weak Zim bowling line-up and this man complains of the lack of pace of the attack! I though batsmen of the subcontinent played slower bowlers well :-/

[LeeXU]

Initially , I have lot of confidence. Now I am getting frustated seeing his inconsistency. You have to gamble on him.
Nevertheless, my earnest is hope that it will be his showtime now against Aussies.

[FagunerAgun]

Another fantasy thread in BC. Ash does not have any consistency. He should not have been in the team but why he is because we don't have any more fantasy batsmen to charm BD cricket fans occasionally.

soja banglai koi " nai mamur theke kana mamu bhalo" ki aar korbo.

[tanvir_nus]

It's absolutely ridiculous how people here are saying ashraful is media hyped and inconsistent. How many bangladeshi batsmen have scored back to back fifties, how many bangladeshi batsmen have thrown bowlers like harmison out of the attack. The list goes on. The only reason I can come up with all your frustration is that you expect too much from him. When media, fans and coach expect you to repeat such performance again and again the pressure will eventually get to you, and sometimes you have to give in. He is human afterall. But saying he is finished and branding him as a player with no future is absolutely rubbish.

He is learning the responsibilties. He is becoming more confident. In the recent series he was being over-confident no doubt but there was no point in the middle he looked uncomfortable. He is in good touch. Form is temporary, he will get it back.

I always have supported a few players. Aftab, S.Nafees, Ashraful,Rana... time and time again they have proved me right. I say, keep your faith in bangladesh's most premier batsmen.
I am not saying he is great, I am not saying there will be no other bigger than him, but he certainly will carry our flag in future. Just wait and see.

[thebest]

Dear Tanvir Bhai
If Ashraful is not media hyped than may I ask you what is the definition of Media hype? You want to know how many BD players have back to back 50. Just look at our captain. I think he have done it couple of times. Infact Shareer Hossain has back to back century againest international oppossition AFAIK. Throwing out Harmison, Razzak thrown out Mcgrath at his pomp in Australia. It does not make him better than Inzi or Yousuf. So please stop this nonsense talking.
Nobody here has any iota of doubt about his talent but we are talking about his achievemnet. If he does not improve, I have no doubt he would replace Carl Hooper as the greatest underacheiver in my life time.
I have heard lots of time he is learning. Five year is a long time to learn. After one responsible performance he throws out the good work in the next. How many of us remember his score after 116,158* or 136. All of them are single digit score. even after the famous Cardiff innings he was out first ball in next innings. Fortunately for us the bail did not dislodge and he taken out Harmy.
Form is temporary, class is permanent is not applicable to him because he has not yet shown he belongs to top class. He showed he has the potential to be there.

[PoorFan]

Well said thebest.:up:

[istiak]

Originally posted by Cricket Crazy
I want Ashraful to teach those Aussies a lesson. :joy::fanflag::lol:

It looks that you are under influence of your AVTAR:lol:

[cricbb]

hope ash has kept his best for the Aussies

[LateCut]

Ash has broken into ICC top 100 test bowler ranking (98th)! Now watch out Australia (specially Ricky Ponting). I think they are shaking in their boots.

[istiak]

Originally posted by LateCut
Ash has broken into ICC top 100 test bowler ranking (98th)! Now watch out Australia (specially Ricky Ponting). I think they are shaking in their boots.

lol!!

So in legspin department we got a strong answere to Warny:lol:

[sadi]

Ash has potential......noone ever doubts that.... we fans have problem when he doesn't realize his problem and throws away the wicket....... its very important for a batsman to apply himself in the wicket and build a partnership and make some runs.... but usually what happens is he get some runs and become very complicent.... next game you see him throwing his bat.... most of the time he comes back with single digit.... sometimes though it clicks and the innings like the one against england happens....

My point is he has to realize his potential and his importance to bangladesh team..... he is not a slogger like afridi that we can afford him to go and throw his bat.... we need his batting everytime he goes out there to bat.... yeah sometimes he will fail.... but as long as he shows application, I am sure we fans wouldn't mind it

[sar2005]

The way he is playing, he is becoming an Afridi for BD. I wonder if he can ever become an Inzi or Yousuf. That's really we need!

[betaar]

Shouldn't the selectors label Ash as the "teams-with-express pace-in-ODI speacialist"?

May be just to get the best out of him, selectors should include him in the team on every 7th match.
Or may be we should ask him if its his every 7th match he will only play good? In that case he will have to score at least 220 runs on every 7th match to give his average some respectability.

I think this guy is wasting his talent in the wrong channel and that is the "excuse channel". :mad:

[realElastic]

Ashraful was waiting for Australia and didn't see Kenya coming ?

Kenya's bowling was too slow for him ?

P l e a s e !!!

Don't let anyone insult your intelligence like this !

[ManInBlack]

This is what Ashraful is...Nothing more nothing less.

Tests Avg 24.87
ODIs Avg 19.88
First-class Avg 28.48

[fishyguy]

Originally posted by sar2005
The way he is playing, he is becoming an Afridi for BD. I wonder if he can ever become an Inzi or Yousuf. That's really we need!

quoted for truth.