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samircreep
April 18, 2006, 05:23 AM
I noticed it in the one dayers but it's gotten increasingly worse: Raju definitely chucks. It becomes all the more apparent when he goes for the arm ball and when he wants to bowl the one that drifts in to the batsmen.

ANyways, expect to hear something right after this test match.

cracky
April 18, 2006, 09:09 AM
I thought Rajjak sucks.

AsifTheManRahman
April 18, 2006, 09:25 AM
which is also true.

cricket_pagla
April 18, 2006, 09:31 AM
Rajjak is grt!... he is especial player of our special team... n 1 mor thin.. he's not a chucker!..

rudro
April 18, 2006, 09:42 AM
I am ok with chucking or whatever you want to call it as long as umpires are OK with it. But I agree, he sucks.

cricman
April 18, 2006, 09:46 AM
I see more potental in him as a Batsmen than a spinner. Very Strong and can go over the top with ease. Took a AMAZING catch from lee to get him.

sadi
April 18, 2006, 09:58 AM
probably it will be his first and last test

sar2005
April 18, 2006, 10:07 AM
I feel sorry for Rana. With his experience, selectors just choose to give Rajjak a chance inteade of Rana (though I believe they both are ODI player).

Sovik
April 18, 2006, 10:10 AM
abdur razzak had to remodel his action. if umpires don't complain then he would be ok

zakirc
April 18, 2006, 10:12 AM
Yes he does chuck and also sux.

Despite the strategic need of having two specialist spinners, we really should have included Rasel (rather than Razzak) in place of Enamul Jr . There is no use to have a bowler like Razzaq just for the sake of strategy. Rasel could have gained valuable experience from this match for the ODI's and we could also have a look at how economic he can be against the Aussies. I dont recall Razzaq ever doing good against any strong opposition.

SMHasan
April 18, 2006, 11:03 AM
I find nothing in him still people bring him in the team.Dont know why. No turn no flight no clever bowling extremely dull. There is no life in his bowling. Dont we have a better spinner in our country? Rubbish.

Nasif
April 18, 2006, 12:04 PM
I have uploaded Razzak's action during last time he was reported. Check all the footage you will get some idea about his action.
http://www.banglacricket.com/games/picture.php?p=139

Ak
April 18, 2006, 12:09 PM
Looks dodgy - I'm not sure but it does look like it.

chinaman
April 18, 2006, 03:33 PM
Nowthing new. He was reported long ago and his actions were rectified since. Interestingly, he was reported under the old law where the maximum allowable angle was just 5 degrees for a spinner.

Currently upto 15 degrees of elbow bending is allowed giving him quite a lot of legal comfort zone.

He has not even been reported since. I find it disturbing to label someone with what he is not.

shamster
April 18, 2006, 04:47 PM
Shame .. he looks to have good economy rate. Hopefully he will be ok against weaker nation. Give the guy fair due its his first test and BG as whole are not doing well... if it was at Fatullah may be he would have done better ??

Hatebreed
April 18, 2006, 07:34 PM
He probably doesn't chuck but he sucks, even though it's his debut... in fact almost everyone in our team sucks... except Rajin, Rafique and Shahadat.

Albanycrew
April 18, 2006, 09:41 PM
hahaha....... I thought you meant to write "sucks".

sadi
April 18, 2006, 10:23 PM
I guess he sucks but remember its only his first test and spinners get better with experience and also against australia, tough debut I must say...

Locutus
April 18, 2006, 11:20 PM
I know that he sucks, but don't know about "chucks".

mhferdaus
December 11, 2006, 03:27 AM
I know that he sucks, but don't know about "chucks".


I wonder if he is going to any problem with ICC after playing with big guns and doing good :D???

Fazal
December 11, 2006, 09:54 AM
Chucks or Sucks or both ....who cares?

Atleast when he plays, most of the time he delivers.

Thats mattter more to me.

If/when he is again grounded for chucks, we will deal with that at that time. For now, he is one of the top three performers in the team, lets recognize that first.

Rihaad The Man
December 11, 2006, 11:04 AM
Another stupid thread :).If you have problem then do talk with the ICC & never open the thread like this like whatever comes in your mind :) caz it's very funny indeed :).

ICC is not having problem with him at this stage then what's your headache ? We don't have to think about it & also no need to point it out to let them know for sure .

chinaman
December 11, 2006, 11:47 AM
Dear Rihaad The Man

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Miraz
December 11, 2006, 12:29 PM
Chinaman bhai,

If any new members follow your signature link 'Welcome' he finds following two messages

'Page not found' &
'Plumb in front of the middle! ;-) and the famous index finger of David Shephard' :)

Just wondering whether it's the ideal way of welcoming new members or its something special to BC ;)

chinaman
December 11, 2006, 12:33 PM
Thanks, Miraz. That plumb is sure for Nasif, I'm at the non striker's end. He must have to return to the pavillion to fix that :)

uss01
December 11, 2006, 03:55 PM
Hahahaha. I agree. Most of them suck. Rajjak is good against Zim and Kenya, but not against Australia or Sri lanka or the big boys he played against.

He probably doesn't chuck but he sucks, even though it's his debut... in fact almost everyone in our team sucks... except Rajin, Rafique and Shahadat.

mhferdaus
December 11, 2006, 11:58 PM
Another stupid thread :).If you have problem then do talk with the ICC & never open the thread like this like whatever comes in your mind :) caz it's very funny indeed :).

ICC is not having problem with him at this stage then what's your headache ? We don't have to think about it & also no need to point it out to let them know for sure .

I guess you are truly a Razzak fan, and I am too and that is why I am worried, some member here found some fault with his action and we have to think of a backup plan if we get haired ( darrel hair )

EDIT : I wonder how would he do now that he got his confidence , will he be able to slay aussies :D?

btw what was the original post can someone pm me :D, yes i am a very curious person :D

Kabir
December 12, 2006, 12:19 AM
btw what was the original post can someone pm me :D, yes i am a very curious person :D

This is the original post:
I noticed it in the one dayers but it's gotten increasingly worse: Raju definitely chucks. It becomes all the more apparent when he goes for the arm ball and when he wants to bowl the one that drifts in to the batsmen.

ANyways, expect to hear something right after this test match.

I guess Rihaad missed the fact that it was opened in April of this year!

gatekeeper
December 12, 2006, 12:51 AM
Yes he does chuck and also sux.

Despite the strategic need of having two specialist spinners, we really should have included Rasel (rather than Razzak) in place of Enamul Jr . There is no use to have a bowler like Razzaq just for the sake of strategy. Rasel could have gained valuable experience from this match for the ODI's and we could also have a look at how economic he can be against the Aussies. I dont recall Razzaq ever doing good against any strong opposition.

Do you recall Rasel doing great things against strong oppositions? Point is this team is being prepared/groomed/motivated for the world cup. And in the semi-slow or semi-fast or sometimes outright flat wickets of the Carribbean, Razzak is a better option, Rasel's slow medium would most likely get a lot of stick. One could make the case for Enamul but he can be expensive at times, I think hes more suited for tests. Rzzak isn't the best but used cleverly he can be very useful. I wouldn't like to see him bowling in SOuth Africa or Perth but the West Indies would be OK.

mhferdaus
December 12, 2006, 03:38 AM
This is the original post:


I guess Rihaad missed the fact that it was opened in April of this year!

i meant to say the man's post not the first post, slangs reminds me of matefatazzi, and sometimes can be entertaining ha ha :D, sometimes weapon of the weak.

i did though react to bob ( bi*** of bush )'s comment and probably he was close friend to Rihaad an probably this is vengance?!?

neways hope Razzaq is now cleared, 15 degree angle gives even some other bowlers' a new chance no?

akabir77
December 12, 2006, 10:43 AM
First I thought this discussion was on paki razzak cause what he did in the zimbo series no way could any one say he sucks then i saw the date...lol

chinaman
December 12, 2006, 11:02 AM
btw what was the original post can someone pm me :D, yes i am a very curious person :D

This is the link for the original posts. There are few more threads as well - search on Razzak to find them all.

Razzak reported for suspect action!!! (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=5653)

Nasif
December 12, 2006, 11:22 AM
Also, if you want to see his old action in WMV and animated GIF (total 12 pics) that was reported you can find it along with his page:
Abdur Razzaq (Raj) (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/../games/profile.php?c=22):
http://www.banglacricket.com/games/picture.php?p=135

http://www.banglacricket.com/games/images/cricketers/Raj-action1%20%28turn%29.gif

By the way, he has corrected his action, this is not his current action.

Umar
December 12, 2006, 02:50 PM
well...why do we have to talk about this? atleast he is better in ODI's and not he is 12th RANKED ODI bowler ! So Keep secret as a SECRET !

chinaman
December 12, 2006, 09:48 PM
There is no secret. The plain truth is, he had problems with his actions during certain delivery under the old ICC rule. Now the ICC rule has been changed as well as his actions has been ractified. He no longer has the problem.

Please note, under the current ICC rule, bending of elbow is allowed upto 15 degrees.

mhferdaus
December 13, 2006, 01:31 AM
First I thought this discussion was on paki razzak cause what he did in the zimbo series no way could any one say he sucks then i saw the date...lol

just going down the memory lane and looking for inrony :D

Rihaad The Man
December 13, 2006, 03:30 AM
Razzak already got cleared from ICC , long time back . So , what's the point to talk about this now ?

Yeah we know , Enamul Haque Moni was playing cricket at one stage for BD but he's an umpire now :) ........

Does it sound funny :) ?..........

Navarene
December 13, 2006, 07:18 PM
A bit off topic. Who is the guy fielding on slip cordon (see the video clip posted by Nasif)? Interesting to notice that his hands are still glued on his knees when the ball was already delivered and flied half way of the pitch!! I guess the slip fielder is Mr. Hablu :)

ialbd
December 13, 2006, 07:23 PM
oh tao bhalo eita puran thread...

at first I read 'Razzak Sucks', ekdom fire hoye dhuke dekhi 'chucks'....
ICC cleared him for now, but if he becomes famous like Murali, they'll come bak at him for sure.... hope he corrects his action by then.

kalpurush
December 14, 2006, 11:49 AM
oh tao bhalo eita puran thread...

at first I read 'Razzak Sucks', ekdom fire hoye dhuke dekhi 'chucks'....
ICC cleared him for now, but if he becomes famous like Murali, they'll come bak at him for sure.... hope he corrects his action by then.


It's done!:-D

kalpurush
December 14, 2006, 11:51 AM
A bit off topic. Who is the guy fielding on slip cordon (see the video clip posted by Nasif)? Interesting to notice that his hands are still glued on his knees when the ball was already delivered and flied half way of the pitch!! I guess the slip fielder is Mr. Hablu :)

110 out of 100! Good eye!!:-D