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Orpheus
April 25, 2006, 10:26 PM
I would have taken Ashraful. What are your thoughts. Good move? Perhaps.

DotBall
April 25, 2006, 11:27 PM
Good move.

thebest
April 25, 2006, 11:43 PM
I m asking the same question. It is a step backward. Ash would have already learn the lesson tht he is not indispensible

Orpheus
April 25, 2006, 11:44 PM
Good move.

why do you think it's a good move?

Spitfire_x86
April 26, 2006, 12:37 AM
OMG!!! I've just turned on the TV and saw this!!!! I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

This is a very bad example set by our selectors. Not only this is a step backwards, but it also competely nullifies the point they wanted to make by dropping Ashraful.

What has Javed done that Ashraful didn't in recent past? Apart from scoring a 40 against Srilanka and and a 50 against Kenya, he didn't do anything since the England tour. Ashraful had a 136 against Srilanka in Test and two back to back fifties against them in the test series. Did our selectors watch the last test series?

And exactly what was the point behind dropping Aftab? He was easily the best batsman after Bashar in the last ODI. He can't be blamed for "throwing his wicket away" in the 1st ODI either. Selectors have been saying he is an "ODI specialist".

Scoring 20s/30s are not good enough for Aftab or Tushar, but great achievement for Javed. Double standard at its best!!!

Faruk and Co. should be fired immediately.

Spitfire_x86
April 26, 2006, 12:48 AM
I just learned from the match thread that "Aftab got cold". If that is really the reason, then why pick JO in place of him?? They should've picked Ashraful. He would've "learned his lesson" anyway, since he was not in the first XI.

Sovik
April 26, 2006, 02:02 AM
Its a good move. Ashraful was axed. its sad that we had to pic JO. but i am happy that ashraful is dropped. he will never learn. now he should realise the fact is no one will care if you don't score

vv_sunil
April 26, 2006, 02:16 AM
i think it is a good move. aftab deserves one more chance as he played well in the last odi.

Ejaj
April 26, 2006, 02:16 AM
Spitty.. like u.. I got a kind of shock of my life to see JO in the team. This team battign is just soo thin.. unthinkable!.. JO.. is luckier than Kapali. His poor technique will be opend up very quickly today.
I can only compare this decision of selectors with one of the worst decision in the BD cricket history.... bringing back Shanto againt IND in 3rd ODI. Perhaps. this is worst than that.

cricket_pagol
April 26, 2006, 03:32 AM
I am shocked to see JO in the team...

Daddy_Mac
April 26, 2006, 03:37 AM
Thsi is a critical moment for Bd they have lost their third and Bd desperatly need a Basher JO parknership...but If we had Ashraful in the team we could have been much more relaxed cause he does take hs run fairly quickly.....
But as if now Bd hopes lie on Jo shoulder....so go..JO..go...!

Spitfire_x86
April 26, 2006, 07:59 AM
I hope selectors won't pick JO again if Aftab is fit. They showed some common sense today by continuing with SN/RS opening partnership. JO and Tushar should be dropped for the 3rd ODI and Aftab, Ashraful should come back.

Why 20 or 30 somethings are good enough for JO? Is there any gurrantee that Ashraful couldn't score this 34 if he got the chance? Both scored nearly equal ammount of runs in the test series, with nearly same top score and on top of that JO didn't get any dubious decision while Ashraful got one.

JO still has all the shortcomings that make him such a terrible player. His still swings and misses, is always a good candidiate for LBW and after hitting few boundaries early went into his infamous shell (today he played only 28% scoring shots)

sadi
April 26, 2006, 08:10 AM
Well Aftab will definately come back for next game... I am hoping javed's 30 something innings wont fool the selectors... if it does, good luck, you will see him again for the next odi....

nayef
April 26, 2006, 08:13 AM
well... atleast JO scored some runs. all this while we've been talking abt what a great match-winner Ashraful is... lets drop down the hype a bit. i he was the extra-ordinary talent that we see sometimes... he'd be scoring more runs now (already 5 seasons in international cricket).

Also remember, the last time he was dropped, he came back a better player... albeit marginally. Let him take the time off and work harder to get back.

cricket_pagla
April 26, 2006, 09:16 AM
whr iz Aftab??...
n why we hav 2 c JO again??.. n watz wit.. T.Imran??.. why hes in da team??./... sigh... BD gonna loose 3rd ODI if dis kinda shitty thins happn!.. :(

Miraz
April 26, 2006, 09:37 AM
I want to make one thing clear to everyone who are repeatedly saying Tushar, JO, Kapali should get more chance as Ashraful got numerous chances, look they way they are batting when they are in the middle. None of them looked to be soild, neither in defence nor in stroke making. When Asahraful plays he is solid in both defence and stroke play. Unfortunately he gets out with rash shot buit anybody can hardly find any lack of technique in Ashraful or Aftab. That's the point. Why should we persist with technically inadequate players and give them more chance??? They are never going to be match winner. They will be always lowering the margin of defeat in their good day and will fail in normal day.

Now team management should drop Tushar, Kapali and JO for the next ODI and bring Aftab, Ashraful and Manjarul Rana (at least he can bowl, not a crap bowler like Kopali) back in the side.

Rabz
April 26, 2006, 09:40 AM
if ash was picked up again after being axed due to aftab's illness, i guess that would have given him the false sense of importance within the team...

the whole reason of picking JO was to send ash the clear message...
u perform or boot out of the team...

we can certainly do without one "very talented" who fails to live to him own class..

the way things r going...ash would soon join the club of Rokon...
our greatly highly exceptionally talented players who failed to perform to their merit..

hope this would give ash a good reality check and he would come back good as ever...

Spitfire_x86
April 26, 2006, 09:46 AM
the whole reason of picking JO was to send ash the clear message...
u perform or boot out of the team...
Yeah, and what a great message it was! JO performed just as bad as Ashraful in the test series vs Australia, and in the ODI & Test series vs Srilanka, Ashraful clearly outperformed him.

Miraz
April 26, 2006, 09:54 AM
the way things r going...ash would soon join the club of Rokon...
our greatly highly exceptionally talented players who failed to perform to their merit..


You made a big mistake dear. With due respect to Rokon (as one of my fav. player) he can never come in the same bracket with Ashraful. Can you name a match which was won due to Rokon's heroics?? or an innings that outperformed all other player of that particular match. Ashraful is completely different, when he performs you have no answer to him, no matter whether its test or ODI. Don't speak off Ashraful so early. Don't forget he made a test century just two months back with two consecutive half century in ODI, one of which was vital for our win.

Spitfire_x86
April 26, 2006, 10:01 AM
You made a big mistake dear. With due respect to Rokon (as one of my fav. player) he can never come in the same bracket with Ashraful. Can you name a match which was won due to Rokon's heroics?? or an innings that outperformed all other player of that particular match.
You forgot about Rokon's 170+ against Namibia in a pre WC2003 practice match series :p :lol:

Miraz
April 26, 2006, 10:12 AM
You forgot about Rokon's 170+ against Namibia in a pre WC2003 practice match series :p :lol:

:) good reminder, then he should be under the same bracket with Tushar Imran :lol:

Imtiazk
April 26, 2006, 01:07 PM
My first reaction, on hearing that Aftab was down with sinus and Ashraful still had not been picked, was that this was a mistake.

However, I have now changed my mind on this. You have see it from Ashraful's point of view. The way Ashraful thinks, this would be the ultimate proof that Bangladesh could not do without him ! "Amar paye porse ora"

I am neutral on JO. I believe he is no better or no worse than most of them. His average [ and he has played quite a few matches ] is no worse than most. Criticism of him being a slow scorer is no longer valid after the England tour. Actually, I found his attitude today to be better than most. His downfall was bad as is often the case with almost everyone.