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Rossi
May 7, 2006, 03:18 AM
Being a local sydney resident.. I ran in to Bulbul bhai in the local shopping centre.. He is leaving his new home "Sydney" and returning to Bangladesh on the 10th of May to take up the position of Coach for "Bangladesh A"... Bulbul bhai told me that initially Bangladesh Cricket Board offered him to be the Assistant Coach for Bangladesh National team.. But Bulbul bhai wanted to work with new bunch of young cricketers and pass them on to Dav Watmore for future... We wish him best of luck and hope him all the best as the coach of Bangladesh A... What do you guys think of him as the new coach for "Bangladesh A"

Aritro
May 7, 2006, 05:34 AM
I trust he's got a whole swag of Cricket Australia coaching qualifications?

Thunder
May 7, 2006, 05:39 AM
Its good to see our old horses coming back to where they belong. Our young cricketers will learn a lot from them..:)

Omio
May 7, 2006, 05:39 AM
that will b good for BD cric

Mahmood
May 7, 2006, 06:28 AM
Let us hope he makes a fine coach...not all great players become a great coach.

Omio
May 7, 2006, 06:39 AM
I thnk he could be. coz he had a good understanding with all cricketer..

Rabz
May 7, 2006, 08:32 AM
very good news indeed....
luved him as a player and looking forward to love him as coach as well...
Best of luck Bulbul

Ejaj
May 7, 2006, 09:11 AM
Not sure. wheather it is a right decision to put someone like Bulbul vai on the A- team coach. A team is second only to National team. and a more professional coach should have been hired. Moreover, Bulbul vai himself had very faulty techinique.. i wonder how much would he be able to guide A team players. No disrespect to him.. but.. he should have coached more at the beginner level of players.

Thirdman
May 7, 2006, 11:24 AM
Not sure. wheather it is a right decision to put someone like Bulbul vai on the A- team coach.

Agree with Ejaj to some extent. Although we haven't seen Bulbul coaching any kind of team yet, and I am sure he has gained a high level of coaching skills during his tenure in Sydney - I still believe he should've started with a younger team like U16 first. This would've helped him mature as a coach, would've tested him on the field, before he could've moved on to get bigger responsibilities. While his vast experience as a player and his high level of commitment to Bangladesh cricket would be a great addition to team - only classroom experience as a coach is probably not good enough for an A-team, which supplies players directly to the national team.

DotBall
May 7, 2006, 12:42 PM
Its an exciting news. Bulbul has been a strong character in BD cricket and he has diversed experience in playing and coaching cricket. I hope BCCB will give him enough freedom to do his job.

Miraz
May 7, 2006, 12:46 PM
Agree with Ejaj to some extent. Although we haven't seen Bulbul coaching any kind of team yet, and I am sure he has gained a high level of coaching skills during his tenure in Sydney - I still believe he should've started with a younger team like U16 first. This would've helped him mature as a coach, would've tested him on the field, before he could've moved on to get bigger responsibilities. While his vast experience as a player and his high level of commitment to Bangladesh cricket would be a great addition to team - only classroom experience as a coach is probably not good enough for an A-team, which supplies players directly to the national team.

Couldn't agree more :up:

Mohiul
May 7, 2006, 01:13 PM
that's a good move by BCB

sunniath
May 7, 2006, 01:26 PM
it is still to early to comment on his potential as a coach.very few good coaches in current cricket circuit have had remarkable careers at the top level.they became great coaches because of their management and analytical skills.so judging bulbul by his batting technic is crazy.same goes for chacha.a below average player,but highly respected among the players because of his soft skills.so lets wait and see what bulbul brings to the table.if we are loyal to our habits,we will surely make him the greatest coach in the world one day,and demand his resignation the next day like we do with the players.for now,we should give him a fair chance to succeed in his new responsibility.

cricket_pagol
May 7, 2006, 01:31 PM
Happy for Bulbul. I always thought he had a good cricketing brain. So i expect him to be a good coach. Let's see what happens.

Frost
May 7, 2006, 02:22 PM
I heard that Bulbul has taken some training to be a coach in Australia. If that is true then probably we'll be able to utilize him better. All the best for him and hopefully he will be successful.

rudro
May 7, 2006, 03:48 PM
I am glad to hear the news. But I am doubtful about it. Why?
First, if the news was true, it would come into the media first.
Second, even if the news is true, it is not professional to leak the news to a friend who would circulate it on the web before any official word from BCB.

cricketboy
May 7, 2006, 04:15 PM
Not sure. wheather it is a right decision to put someone like Bulbul vai on the A- team coach. A team is second only to National team. and a more professional coach should have been hired. Moreover, Bulbul vai himself had very faulty techinique.. i wonder how much would he be able to guide A team players. No disrespect to him.. but.. he should have coached more at the beginner level of players.

I agree with Ejaj but I think he was better of being assistant coach of Bangladesh national team before being a full coach of the A team. He could have learned somethings from Dev Whatmore.

akabir77
May 7, 2006, 07:05 PM
I think when u r a coach of a A team or national team u r players should all know the basics and stuff by that time. The coach needs to be there to
1. face the media
2. decide the strategy
3. help select the team
4. finding out players weak points
etc but not teach cricket.. so that's why i think bulbul is a great choice for A team as he is well spoken, he was very aggressive when he was captain and very good at technical stand point so he can identify players weak points quickly and help them improve it as he was technically very sound(I disagree about his faulty technique thing which was mentioned by Ejaj could you give an example why u think that way? I know he is sound cause he made 145 in the 1st ever test without giving any chances and there r other example 2. he was called javed miandad of bd team)...

SMHasan
May 7, 2006, 08:28 PM
Not necessarily you have to be a very good player to be a very good coach. Look at Bob woolmar or Jhon Buchanon all of them are low profile player but high profile coach so we need one of those.

Zaheed Mahmood
May 7, 2006, 08:29 PM
A gritty stroke-maker and an excellent fielder that he used to be, he is very much likely to make good use of his experience and make fine cricketers out of the youngsters and I wish him all the best as an A-team coach!! I wondered why he didn’t make it to the team later on (victim of nepotism?) after his promising start at our inaugural test! Lean patch? Who doesn’t have it?? Though it is too early to comment on his performance as a coach, we expect that his long experience in Australian cricket environment would help the youngsters enormously in grooming them up for delivering them to the final elite stage of cricket!!
Zaheed

jabbar
May 7, 2006, 08:31 PM
Great to see bulbul bringing back his considerable aussie experience back home!

Rabz
May 8, 2006, 12:35 AM
Agree with Ejaj to some extent. Although we haven't seen Bulbul coaching any kind of team yet, and I am sure he has gained a high level of coaching skills during his tenure in Sydney - I still believe he should've started with a younger team like U16 first. This would've helped him mature as a coach, would've tested him on the field, before he could've moved on to get bigger responsibilities. While his vast experience as a player and his high level of commitment to Bangladesh cricket would be a great addition to team - only classroom experience as a coach is probably not good enough for an A-team, which supplies players directly to the national team.

coach of U16?? what .... try solving their acne problem ?? and helping with thier school homework ??

I think it was a good move by CB ...

I'd be utterly insulted if i was AMINUL ISLAM BULBUL and offered as a BD U16 coach

i think CB wants Bulbul to play a bigger role in the following days to come and this is just the first step.... proving his worthiness in his first assignment can only take him forward... he is a role model for our youngsters and i guess he would be better person to guide them through to the next stage....cuz one of the main problem with our coaches is that lots of their advise is LOST IN TRANSLATION... sad but true....

best of luck to him n to our a side...

sadi
May 8, 2006, 08:22 AM
Can anyone verify the news first? I mean someone said Bulbul is the next A team coach and we started analyzing it without verifying the news.... I haven't heard anything like that from any newspaper or website and we should find out first whether the news is true or not...

Fazal
May 8, 2006, 11:31 AM
Some said 'Oi Je ... Akase ai ta ke?' and left.

and avery one stopped and lookin in the sky and start arguing whether its a plane, UFO or a bird. And the argument continued for 6 hours.

And then wise-guy ( I guess his name is Sadi)... "hei Miyara.. mukh ha kprey ...khama Kha Akashe dikey ki dektesen? Akase to kisue nai"

Then everyone said, "Tai to..."

akabir77
May 8, 2006, 12:06 PM
Some said 'Oi Je ... Akase ai ta ke?' and left.

and avery one stopped and lookin in the sky and start arguing whether its a plane, UFO or a bird. And the argument continued for 6 hours.

And then wise-guy ( I guess his name is Sadi)... "hei Miyara.. mukh ha kprey ...khama Kha Akashe dikey ki dektesen? Akase to kisue nai"

Then everyone said, "Tai to..."

And then Fazal came and told us the joke :)

Niceman70
May 8, 2006, 12:14 PM
Some said 'Oi Je ... Akase ai ta ke?' and left.

and avery one stopped and lookin in the sky and start arguing whether its a plane, UFO or a bird. And the argument continued for 6 hours.

And then wise-guy ( I guess his name is Sadi)... "hei Miyara.. mukh ha kprey ...khama Kha Akashe dikey ki dektesen? Akase to kisue nai"

Then everyone said, "Tai to..."


Hahahahahahahahahaha

sadi
May 8, 2006, 12:19 PM
lol... nice one Fazal

Tigers_eye
May 9, 2006, 11:37 AM
Brother Rudro was the first one to see that there wasn't any cloud in the blue sky. He was the first one to question why most of us were staring at the blue sky.

Sadi, the witty one, expanded on it, lol.
... But I am doubtful about it. Why?
First, if the news was true, it would come into the media first.
Second, even if the news is true, it is not professional to leak the news to a friend who would circulate it on the web before any official word from BCB.

sadi
May 9, 2006, 12:33 PM
Lol.... Rudro gets the credit... since we haven't heard anything since then, probably its one of the chile kan niye gese thread and we better check our sources next time before making fool out of ourselves

Fazal
May 9, 2006, 12:44 PM
Brother Rudro was the first one to see that there wasn't any cloud in the blue sky. He was the first one to question why most of us were staring at the blue sky.

Sadi, the witty one, expanded on it, lol.

In that case looks like I have to change my story a little bit then.

Here is the revised one:

Someone suddenly screamed looking up in the sky 'Oi Je ... Akase ai ta ke?... Allahr ki kudrot dekhen dekhen !!!!' Everyone stopped and and strat looking in the sky.Eventually they start arguing whether its a plane, UFO or a bird. And the argument continued for 6 hours. In the mean time the 1st person left the site with couple of money-bags in his hand.

And then the wise-guy ( I guess this is rudro) ... said... "Bhaisob.. Apnara ke bolen... Akase to kichui dekha jai na". Someone from the crowd (I guess its omio) said, "matat kisu ache ne? Atto boro boro dui khan pakhi.... Dakter-re Chok Dekhan..."

So the wise guy left. The crowd continue looking at the sky and agruing with each other....

Finally the street-smart-guy came ( I guess his name is Sadi)... "hei Miyara.. mukh ha korey khama Kha Akashe dikey ki dektesen? Akase to kisue nai. Jar jar poket dekhen ... sob thik ache to?"

Suddenly the crown realized the trick and start looking for their wallet in their pocket... couple of them sat down in the street crying...

"Khaise Amare..." said one.... "Amar money bag taw gayeb..." said the other

End of my story! (version 2.0)

Sauron
May 9, 2006, 01:03 PM
:D

So looks like Rossi likes pockets ..., huh?

Tigers_eye
May 9, 2006, 01:38 PM
I hated Rossi. 3 times he pickpocketed and didn't get caught. Socrates, Cerezo, Falcao, Junior, Zico, Edars' mind boggling skill and talent came to a halt. You guys know, six months before that he was in jail?? Why did the italians set him free???

zahid
May 9, 2006, 04:28 PM
Thanks for the insider unofficial news. Shabash Rossi.
Btw, I know that Bulbul is in Australia doing some degree in coaching. And he is doing the highest level one. We had Channel S presenters talking to hm via phone last time .

BanglaCool
May 10, 2006, 05:34 AM
Can anyone verify the news first? I mean someone said Bulbul is the next A team coach and we started analyzing it without verifying the news.... I haven't heard anything like that from any newspaper or website and we should find out first whether the news is true or not...
It helps to live in the same city or even a distant one ;-)

Ishtylish cricketer
May 10, 2006, 07:02 AM
This news could be false as far as I am concerned but if not best of luck to Aminul Islam. I still think a better and a more qualified person meaning someone with knowledge in IT, using statistical softwares and specialist batting and bowling softwares, biomechanics, and someone who can motivate players should be hired. I don't know Bulbul's ability in IT or computers but I think he would be able to motivate players.

chinaman
May 10, 2006, 10:15 AM
The news is still a speculation since we can not verify it.

If it is true, I'd be very disappointed. What we need is an experienced coach with proven track record. Our A team and u19 teams are the life lines for the national team. While the u19 team gets some attention, the A team has largely been neglected and reduced to almost ceremonial matter. Failure to appoint a full time world class coach only confirm this notion.

I have very high regards for Bulbul and I'm sure he has what it takes to become an excellent coach. I sincerely wish him all the luck. But I'm not ready to give him an easy pass as a coach just because he was once my hero as a player.

We are an 'improving' cricket nation. We deserve nothing less than the best possible care.

BCB should take care of the wound first instead of hiding it under colorful clothings and gimmicks.

think 1st, speak 2nd
May 11, 2006, 01:48 AM
Dear Forum fans, I read with interest your comments concerning Aminul Islam as the new Bangladesh A team coach. I am also living in Sydney and have been involved around the Premier cricket and first class cricket system in a number of Australian cities for the last15-20 years.

I also watched on the TV with great interest and admiration for you guys during the series against the Aussies and believe it or not I hoped like crazy that BD could pull off a win for the greater good of the game. So too did many other Aussie supporters I must say!

I am surprised by your comments concerning the BD "A" team coach - is it true? I may be completely off on the wrong track here, but it was my understanding that BD has 2 Aussie guys working in the system supporting your National Team.

As far as I was aware BDC appointed Shaun Williams Game Development Manager as well as being the A team Coach and also BDC have Allister DeWinter as the head coach of the U/19's and I heard, the soon to be opened National cricket Academy?

That is the word going here in Australian cricket circles anyway, but maybe it's not right - who knows? or maybe things have changed quickly, but I don't know why that would be the case ??

What I can say for sure is that these two guys have earned a lot of respect in Australia before they left and both have really strong records in coaching and playing at a high level in Australia.

They come from different parts of Australia, DeWinter played a lot of good first class cricket in Tasmania before he retired and got into coaching, where he has earned a reputation in Australia as an excellent motivator and very good bowling coach as well being an excellent team coach at National Youth Level. He then moved to WA as a coach and everyone that works with him will tell you that he is a top-class operator. It was no surprise that he left Aus. for more opportunities as he was right up there in the system in Australia but of course there are limited opportunities for these guys so I guess they have to look internationally.

Williams was a Victorian (I think) who departed Melbourne for more opportunities as a player in the Northern Territory and Australian Capital Territory during the early to mid 90's - where his opening batting and captaincy earned him great respect as a hard working batter, brilliant fielder and very smart tactician. From memory he scored heavily against all the visiting First-Class teams and consistently scored good runs against the visiting International Teams, but in the Aussie system because it is Territory cricket these matches are not officially classified - the NT and ACT are still fighting for official status from the Board at the moment I think. I heard he retired a little prematurely due to injury, but the powers that be decided to install him as the head coach immediately after he retired and he had great success as the senior coach as well. He is also credited with being the instigator of the Northern Territory Institute Cricket Academy which is very highly regarded. As far as I know, because he retired a bit early he has been a fullly qualified Level 3 - High Performance coach (the highest coaching qualification) for the best part of 10 years. His departure to BD was not unexpected as those that know him say that he has much to offer and it was only a matter of time before somebody took him.

I’m not sure about Mr. Aminul Islam, obviously he played for Bangladesh, which is a great honour - but I would be very surprised if he could come anywhere near these guys for coaching and playing credentials - at this stage anyway. From what I hear Mr. Aminul has been playing and coaching in Sydney sub-district ranks and has been doing his Level 2 coaching certificate (?) But I'm not really sure about this.

With due respect, comparing this with what the other guys have achieved in Australia at this stage is like comparing chalk and cheese!

Anyway, if nothing else you should all be happy that you have two such good guys working for cricket in BD. Hopefully they will come back to Aust. one day with more good experiences gained from being in Bangladesh. In the mean time, for the good of the game we all hope that they and everyone else that works in Bangladesh cricket can continue to make big moves forward.

It certainly looks for a very promising future - but everyone must be patient I think. Rome wasn't built in a day!
:) :flag:

crickwizard
May 11, 2006, 02:08 AM
Just talked to one of the BCB folk in Bangladesh, this news is a complete dud. Don't spend time on it.

TheWatcher
May 11, 2006, 01:39 PM
It seems Bulbul also told his team mates in Sydney that he got a job with BCCB.

We bid farewell (before next season anyway) to the likes of the great Bully who returns to Bangladesh in a few weeks to take on a new position in Bangladesh cricket ....

Source (http://www.ssdcc.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=1157)

Tigers_eye
May 11, 2006, 01:46 PM
May be it is time to rewrite the story.... (fazal bhai, where are you)

Fazal
May 11, 2006, 02:02 PM
May be it is time to rewrite the story.... (fazal bhai, where are you)

Not Yet...

1. Its a quote from another message board written by user named by Hirsty.

2. I don't see where Bulbul says or verifies that he got that job. Hirsty simply says, "We bid farewell (before next season anyway) to the likes of the great Bully who returns to Bangladesh in a few weeks to take on a new position in Bangladesh cricket". He may be pick-pocketed by Rossi also.

3. Even Hirsty doen't claim that Bulbul got the coaching job of team-a also. It can be any job with BCB, which is very likely.

Nera Ek Bar-ee Bel Tolai Jai.... Next time Nera just watches and enjoys while another victim goes to Bell Tola without a helmet.

TheWatcher
May 17, 2006, 03:44 PM
I am wondering who has started the rumor about BD-A coaching job, Rossi or Bulbul himself ?

Anyway, thanks to our Australian fan for background info about De Winter and Shaun Williams.

Mr Williams seems to be using his connection with NT Cricket Academy well, so far we have four Bangladeshi youngsters (two last year, two this year) who went over there to train under that academy and to play in Darwin league. A big thanks to him also.


Williams was a Victorian (I think) who departed Melbourne for more opportunities as a player in the Northern Territory and Australian Capital Territory during the early to mid 90's..... He is also credited with being the instigator of the Northern Territory Institute Cricket Academy which is very highly regarded.
think 1st speak 2nd, can you also provide us info about our new national team trainer Paul Chapman? He comes from Canberra, which falls under Australian Capital Territory (ACT), right ?

sadi
July 19, 2006, 12:11 PM
Forget about BD A team... he hasn't got any offer from BCB till now and thinking of coaching Mohamedan... player/coach... not bad...

http://www.jaijaidin.com/view_news.php?News-ID=7049&issue=44&nav_id=4

TheWatcher
July 19, 2006, 02:01 PM
Forget about BD A team... he hasn't got any offer from BCB till now and thinking of coaching Mohamedan... player/coach... not bad...

http://www.jaijaidin.com/view_news.php?News-ID=7049&issue=44&nav_id=4
Well, what to say other than that Bulbul returned home too early. One or two more seasons with NSW University would have made him a lot more valuable candidate as a coach. Also, he could have finished level three coaching over there.

ialbd
July 21, 2006, 06:03 AM
so is this true at all? Either ways, Bulbul going bak to BD and getting involved with BD cricket (with all his Aussie experience) shud be a positive move.

I remember one of my friend (he used to play Nirman) use to say it but dont know if its entirely true. National team or A team coaches do not teach technique (obviously Chappell doesnt teach Dravid how to bat), its more like a talent management job, where he tells player the style they should play with and thus combining the talents together for the whole team(its more like team managers in football). So to be a national/A team coacht you dont have to have a flawless cricketing technique, in-depth cricketing knowledge & experience prove to be better assets.

Root level players need guidance from coaches with the perfect techniques so that they can correct themselves. I think Bulbul will serve right if he gets the job (or may be in charge of the development squad, or whatever thats after the A team).
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BangladeshFan
July 21, 2006, 04:34 PM
i agree with "think 1st speak 2nd". coaching of national or even A team should go to specialist coaches with experience which bd currently has. if bcb wants to use bulbul, ideally they should use him with younger players like U-19 or U-16. younger players are more likely to grasp new things , he will also gain coaching exp in the process. bulbul was a clever and agressive batsman and was good against spinners(which he couldnt be without good technique). i think he will come valuable specially to the younger upcoming batting talents.