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babubangla
June 14, 2006, 08:11 PM
Prothom-Alo Headline: সবার আগে দ্বিতীয় রাউন্ডে জার্মানী (Germany first to reach 2nd Round) !!!!!!!!!!!

How come they publish this headline when the group is not decided yet? There are 3 more matches remaining in the group and it is still anybody’s group. Just consider the following possible outcomes in the remaining matches of the group:
Costa Rica vs. Ecuador: 2- 0
Ecuador vs. Germany: 2 – 0
Costa Rica vs. Poland: 2 – 0

In this case, the group standing will be as follows:
<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=7 width=463 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=center width="30%" height=18>Team
</TD><TD width="12%" height=18>Match
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>Win
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>Draw
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>Lose
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>F - A
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="12%" height=18>Point
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center width="30%" height=18>Costa Rica
</TD><TD width="12%" height=18>3
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>2
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>0
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>1
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>6 - 4
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="12%" height=18>6
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center width="30%" height=18>Ecuador
</TD><TD width="12%" height=18>3
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>2
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>0
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>1
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>4 - 2
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="12%" height=18>6
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center width="30%" height=18>Germany
</TD><TD width="12%" height=18>3
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>2
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>0
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>1
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>5 - 4
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="12%" height=18>6
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center width="30%" height=18>Poland
</TD><TD width="12%" height=18>3
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>0
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>0
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>3
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>0 - 5
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="12%" height=18>0
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

And Germany can still be eliminated from the group.

It was early morning in Bangladesh when the match ended. The headline must be a creation of a sleepless tired mind!!!

Source: Prothom-Alo (http://www.prothom-alo.net/v1/newhtmlnews1/index.php?Date=2006-06-15)

CricFanBD
June 14, 2006, 08:33 PM
Yeah, in that case---Germany can still be eliminated from the group. But I think it is possible only in dreams.

ialbd
June 14, 2006, 08:46 PM
oi arki.... jaha bahanno tahai teppanno
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Faceoff
June 14, 2006, 09:24 PM
I guess in this scenario they are in a good shape to make the 2nd round as one of the two best 3rd place teams.

babubangla
June 14, 2006, 09:38 PM
I guess in this scenario they are in a good shape to make the 2nd round as one of the two best 3rd place teams.

Best 3rd team rule is not used any more since there are 32 teams now.
This was a rule when World Cup used to have 24 teams.
God..you certainly miss those good old days!!!!!:)

sadi
June 14, 2006, 09:48 PM
babubhai, maf koira den oder.... channel I e same news dise ajke... its possible but really.... very little chance of happening

Hatebreed
June 14, 2006, 10:05 PM
Prothom Alo made an assumption for all the right reasons, only a miracle can turn this around.. highly unlikely!

babubangla
June 14, 2006, 10:18 PM
Yes..the chances are just mathematical and Prothom-Alo can certainly assume that Germany will move to 2nd round. When you assume something- you say "it can be safely assumed...", but you can not say "Germany in 2nd Round".

Look what FIFA says, "The result does not guarantee the hosts qualification for the Round of 16, but it leaves them with one foot in the knockout stages."

That's what a news report should look like.

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060614/1/7ljp.html

Faceoff
June 14, 2006, 10:26 PM
Best 3rd team rule is not used any more since there are 32 teams now.
This was a rule when World Cup used to have 24 teams.
God..you certainly miss those good old days!!!!!:)

hahahah, I guess I did. Thanks for the reminder. I gradually lost my interest in soccer after moving to US. Now it's all about the cows,mavs,stars.... but ofcourse cricket is still on top my list.

As for Prothom-Alo's assumption, I think they probably misundertsood the commentators assumptions of Germany almost reaching the 2nd round.

CricFanBD
June 14, 2006, 10:30 PM
Prothom-Alo Headline: সবার আগে দ্বিতীয় রাউন্ডে জার্মানী (Germany first to reach 2nd Round) !!!!!!!!!!!


In this case, the group standing will be as follows:
<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=7 width=463 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=center width="30%" height=18>Team
</TD><TD width="12%" height=18>Match
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>Win
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>Draw
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>Lose
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>F - A
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="12%" height=18>Point
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center width="30%" height=18>Costa Rica
</TD><TD width="12%" height=18>3
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>2
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>0
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>1
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>6 - 4
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="12%" height=18>6
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center width="30%" height=18>Ecuador
</TD><TD width="12%" height=18>3
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>2
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>0
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>1
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>4 - 2
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="12%" height=18>6
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center width="30%" height=18>Germany
</TD><TD width="12%" height=18>3
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>2
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>0
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>1
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>5 - 4
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="12%" height=18>6
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center width="30%" height=18>Poland
</TD><TD width="12%" height=18>3
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>0
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>0
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>3
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%" height=18>0 - 5
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="12%" height=18>0
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

And Germany can still be eliminated from the group.

Source: Prothom-Alo (http://www.prothom-alo.net/v1/newhtmlnews1/index.php?Date=2006-06-15)

According to your dream table: Still Germany will qualify for the 2nd round.
Cause, Germany has 5 goals (F), more than Ecuador.
To be qualifying Ecuador needs at least 5 goals. They have only 2 goals. If they lost 2-0 to Costa Rica according to your theory, they need to put 3 goals in Germany's Goal Post (Hopefully they will get this inspiration after 0-2 defeat from Costa Rica) ....Yeah may be possible....see what happens.:confused:

Hatebreed
June 14, 2006, 10:32 PM
I think that's an editorial error, not necessarily your traditional match report. If you read the aricle again it's ridden with opinions to begin with.

CricFanBD
June 14, 2006, 10:35 PM
Sorry forget to mention One thing: and hopefully Poland will eat Green-Banana all over the tournament to make this Dream true....

babubangla
June 14, 2006, 10:36 PM
According to your dream table: Still Germany will qualify for the 2nd round.
Cause, Germany has 5 goals (F), more than Ecuador.
To be qualifying Ecuador needs at least 5 goals. They have only 2 goals. If they lost 2-0 to Costa Rica according to your theory, they need to put 3 goals in Germany's Goal Post (Hopefully they will get this inspiration after 0-2 defeat from Costa Rica) ....Yeah may be possible....see what happens.:confused:

When points are equal, then comes the goal difference. Number of goal scored comes into consideration when goal difference is equal.

Tigers_eye
June 15, 2006, 08:55 AM
Ecuador is beating Costa Rica. That should end any debate.

Just for the sake of it Babu Bhai could have been right if the following had happened:
Germany 6 points goal difference 5-4.
Ecuador 6 points goal difference 5-3.
CostaRica 6 points goal difference 7-6.
Poland 0 points goal difference 0-6

Ecuador loses to CostaRica 1-2.
Germany loses to Ecuador 0-2.
Poland loses to Costa Rica 0-3 (Poland'rey taka khawailey shob kora shombhob).

Rabz
June 15, 2006, 10:45 AM
both Germany and Ecuador is already in the second round..
so i guess it ends the debate...

akabir77
June 15, 2006, 11:00 AM
I think ecudor will be in the group top as they will either draw with germany or win for sure......

Orpheus
June 15, 2006, 11:52 AM
I think ecudor will be in the group top as they will either draw with germany or win for sure......

So Ecuador can't lose to Germany? :confused: They are a damn good team but I think Germany can play football a little :)

allrounder
June 15, 2006, 12:35 PM
babubangla is now defeated by protom alo.

Frost
June 15, 2006, 01:10 PM
Prohom Alo has the ability see the future:-) Let's ask them about our cricket team's future.

ialbd
June 15, 2006, 03:24 PM
but i am sure the reporter didnt even realise the point babubangla pointed out, kintu ekhon monehoy shostir nishhash felchen...
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akabir77
June 15, 2006, 06:31 PM
So Ecuador can't lose to Germany? :confused: They are a damn good team but I think Germany can play football a little :)

that's what i am feeling lets see what happens..... I am beting on Ecudor's side.. german diffence is not that good ....:eek:

tiger_man
June 19, 2006, 10:11 AM
prothom alo might aswell announce that brazil is winning the world cup.....

lucky they didnt try that stunt in 1998 world cup final night....else ppl wud make a mockery out of them the next morning...