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BangladeshFan
June 27, 2006, 01:28 PM
after watching brazil vs ghana, i was wondering why people dont make them favorites. it is really hard to imagine brazil lose a match. all the players are physically super, fast and skillful, passing is immaculate. ghana was just chasing the shadows.

it really takes genius to beat them. i remember in 1990, a maradona special undid them, they were dominating the whole match until maradona got through the defence and passed to unmarked caniggia who scored. in 1998, they were surprised by a resolute french and scorching zidane headers. apart from this, brazil always reined supreme. brazil is the favorite once again, what do u think?

Tigers_eye
June 27, 2006, 01:33 PM
They are the favorites along side Germany and Argentina. Who will knock the other one out. :)

The second tier team contains: Italy, Portugal, Spain and England (over-rated).

Ejaj
June 27, 2006, 01:39 PM
Well, on paper , they still are favourite: but, on performance, I believe Germany is the most favourite team to lift the cup. They have a very effcient midfield and attack and play really fast. They also have the home advantage. Brazil, if they some how manage to go to final ( doesnt look like with current performance), they will probably get beaten by the super german team.

But, hey, I am not giving out the thoughts that Brazil wont be able to win this time too. They are pretty good enough to repeat the feat. Only worry, is the coach's tactics. He is playing old slow players are defence and midfield. Players like Carlos, Emersson, Adriano should not play in the starting eleven. It also hamper Ronaldinho game. He likes to play to the front and becoz of Emersson, he has to play below the midfield line. He was superb in 2nd half agasint Ghana and that was becoz, Silva and Juninho was doing the job in the midfield and he could make those run through the wings. This is how it should be, definitely not the way Parreira is playing at the moment.
If brazil gets beaten by teams in the next rounds, to me, I will only blame Parreira for his faulty team selection.

SS
June 27, 2006, 03:31 PM
yea true though Brazil so far not playing upto the mark, probably the selection not sure. German team looked solid so far, but they will face Argentina and that will be a decided for other two favorite team. I am considering that game like final lol.
Spain is a good team but till now as of the report says they are tieing with France, last time France pulled out a thriller defeating Brazil, so who knows what Zidan has left in him. If Italy and England goes through who knows they can do something too though they are not top favorites.

Spitfire_x86
June 27, 2006, 04:06 PM
If brazil gets beaten by teams in the next rounds, to me, I will only blame Parreira for his faulty team selection.
Yeah, it's time to drop Adriano, Emerson, Carlos and Cafu. Hopefully Robinho will be fit for the next game and Brazil will start without Adriano and Emerson. I don't think he has the courage to drop all four at once.

allrounder
June 27, 2006, 04:19 PM
brazilians look slow so far, i hope that gets changed otherwise they will be out with another shocker.

sunny747
June 27, 2006, 04:26 PM
Hmmm..after seeing France playing like that, it's gonna be a hell of a match between brazil vs france......i think there is a 50/50 chance......

abdulw11
June 27, 2006, 05:08 PM
brazilians look slow so far, i hope that gets changed otherwise they will be out with another shocker.

There is a lot of critisicm of Brazils performance yet they are able to get the results. If they are playing badly and can still get results like 4-1 and 3-0, just think what they will do to teams when they hit top gear.

Sovik
June 27, 2006, 05:19 PM
Important thing is ronaldo is getting fitter everyday

CricFanBD
June 27, 2006, 11:18 PM
No doubt Brazil is the favorite for winning the cup. But Favorite Teams don’t get the Championship always---the Burning Example is 1950's Brazil, 1954's Hungry, 1966's Portugal, 1974's Holland, and 1982’s Brazil. So anything can happen....:D

Ejaj
June 28, 2006, 02:00 AM
Although, France is my most favourite team in Europe, for some reason I am not at all happy that they beat spain to make a duel with Brazil in QF. Brazil has a very poor record against France. Somehow , brazil alawys loose against France. Next round could be the end of Brazil in this world cup. France might not be playing great football at the moment, but, one Zidance is enough to beat Brazil. Moreover, France can readily exploit Brazilian defencive weakness.

Germany is the only team at the moment, that look like to win this world cup. England, max .. upto semifinal. They dont have the strikers to score goals.

CricFanBD
June 28, 2006, 02:29 AM
Germany is the only team at the moment, that look like to win this world cup. England, max .. upto semifinal. They dont have the strikers to score goals.

I think you are in Germany now----did you watch any game? Or having plan to watch, just Curiosity, don't mind plz.

Ejaj
June 28, 2006, 02:35 AM
I think you are in Germany now----did you watch any game? Or having plan to watch, just Curiosity, don't mind plz. No my friend, i have not watched any match on the pitch. I have my thesis submission within next 8 days and really missed the worldcup. Also, the ticketing system was crap, Tried but luck didnt favour much. The only ticket I could have got was between Saudi Arabia Vs Tunisia. So.. was not intersted. So, unfortunately, I am also watching games on TV ,,just like you guys :)

Banglatiger84
June 28, 2006, 06:06 AM
I said that Germany will win before the Cup began and I stand by my statement.

Brazil will fall at some point, it wotn be easy to beat France, England/Portugal and liley Germany in 3 consecutive games

Hatebreed
June 28, 2006, 08:40 AM
Brasil may not be playing their best but they are still favourites. They're just under a lot of pressure because people expect too much from them and criticise for not delivering enough. They are 5 times world champions for god's sake. You can never get enough of Brasil until they win it all and it's good to see them struggling so far.. it should make them focused and work harder towards their main goal.

babubangla
June 28, 2006, 08:57 AM
Brasil may not be playing their best but they are still favourites. They're just under a lot of pressure because people expect too much from them and criticise for not delivering enough

Here comes the pressure issues again !!
"They're just under a lot of pressure" and they will play France.
Next thing you hear- "France drugged them" !!

That's how I expect to see Brazillians after the game on July 1:
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i278/babubangla/r_carlos.jpg

sadi
June 28, 2006, 09:12 AM
Brazil will fall at some point, it wotn be easy to beat France, England/Portugal and liley Germany in 3 consecutive games

Its not easy to win a worldcup... any team who wants to win it has to go through all these good teams...

Hatebreed
June 28, 2006, 09:17 AM
Here comes the pressure issues again !!
"They're just under a lot of pressure" and they will play France.
Next thing you hear- "France drugged them" !!




So you're saying there is no pressure for the world champions? :rolleyes:

Rabz
June 28, 2006, 10:18 AM
stuff History!!
history is against us !!
stuff France...
its time to take some revenge...
Want Brazil to crash France..and so they would...inshallah...come July 1

Rabz
June 28, 2006, 10:28 AM
<TABLE style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #999 1px solid" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="50%" align=center bgColor=#cccccc border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="50%"> http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/06/flag/sm2/bra.gif Brazil (BRA) (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/overview.html?team=bra) </TD><TD align=right>France (FRA) http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/06/flag/sm2/fra.gif (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/overview.html?team=fra) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="50%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR class=br align=middle><TD class=v11b>3</TD><TD class=v11 width="80%">Played</TD><TD class=v11b>3</TD></TR><TR class=y1 align=middle><TD class=v11b>1</TD><TD class=v11>Won</TD><TD class=v11b>1</TD></TR><TR class=br align=middle><TD class=v11b>1</TD><TD class=v11 width="80%">Drawn</TD><TD class=v11b>1</TD></TR><TR class=y1 align=middle><TD class=v11b>1</TD><TD class=v11>Lost</TD><TD class=v11b>1</TD></TR><TR class=br align=middle><TD class=v11b>6</TD><TD class=v11 width="80%">Goals</TD><TD class=v11b>6</TD></TR><TR><TD width="10%"></TD><TD width="80%"></TD><TD width="10%"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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Matches Database: BRA : FRA Worldcup Finals

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so i guess the stats r neck n neck...
lemme set u a pattern...
Brazil ---->won, draw, lost...
so i guess its time for them to win again...
and so they would..

babubangla
June 28, 2006, 11:46 AM
so i guess the stats r neck n neck...
lemme set u a pattern...
Brazil ---->won, draw, lost...
so i guess its time for them to win again...
and so they would..

keep dreaming.
I am glad FIFA gave you a 2-day break to keep your dream alive :)

Miraz
June 28, 2006, 11:57 AM
If Brazil plays the same way they played against Ghana, Henry is going to make his first world cup hattrick and France gonna win 5-2 (or, somthing around that).

I am going with France. Solid defence, better midfield, they only need to use their opportunities.

Come on Henry!!!:)

sadi
June 28, 2006, 12:04 PM
keep dreaming.
I am glad FIFA gave you a 2-day break to keep your dream alive :)

make sure you come back and visit this thread on saturday... I would definately want to hear something from you after Brazil crush France..... Zidane abbu ke dore kada chara kuno upay nei Babubangla bhai :lol:

Banglatiger84
June 28, 2006, 12:55 PM
The French defence is very very strong, they have 6 defence minded players who can thwart Brazilian attac. On the other hand, even though France have a lot of quality up front, Henry is horribly out of form.

Sovik
June 28, 2006, 02:49 PM
ronaldinho looked ordinary in last match.

SS
June 28, 2006, 03:03 PM
We should seek advice of a psychic

CricFanBD
June 28, 2006, 07:28 PM
make sure you come back and visit this thread on saturday... I would definately want to hear something from you after Brazil crush France..... Zidane abbu ke dore kada chara kuno upay nei Babubangla bhai :lol:

If France Crush the Red Hot Favorite Brazil, What will you do? Don't take it so much serious----it is just an another game, nothing else.

sadi
June 29, 2006, 08:25 AM
If France Crush the Red Hot Favorite Brazil, What will you do? Don't take it so much serious----it is just an another game, nothing else.

lol... I wont do anything... I will go and watch semifinal and start supporting another team... maybe argentina if they can win against germany... they are my second fav... I know its just a game... I am just having fun here.... maybe you are getting too serious... no??

Sovik
June 29, 2006, 08:58 AM
if brazil don't make it to semifinal i will be supporting france for next games cause Zidane is my one the most favourite footballer

thebest
June 29, 2006, 09:17 AM
France Vs Portugal would be a cracker semi final, but I want a final where youth of Argentina would meet the guile and experience of France. Go the blue teams. Hail to Argentina ; Hail to France.

Sovik
June 29, 2006, 09:39 AM
France Vs Portugal would be a cracker semi final, but I want a final where youth of Argentina would meet the guile and experience of France. Go the blue teams. Hail to Argentina ; Hail to France.

first you have to survive germany. they won't be as bad as serbia & montenegro and will be much better than mexico. tomorrow might be the day for the argentinain fans last match of this tournament

allrounder
June 29, 2006, 09:45 AM
Oh yeah? these are against Japan and Ghana, i will wait and see how they play wheb they face the big names in football.


There is a lot of critisicm of Brazils performance yet they are able to get the results. If they are playing badly and can still get results like 4-1 and 3-0, just think what they will do to teams when they hit top gear.

Sovik
June 29, 2006, 09:50 AM
Oh yeah? these are against Japan and Ghana, i will wait and see how they play wheb they face the big names in football.

ghana wasn't a bad team. they played really well in this tournament. and i don't believe japan was as bad was serbia & montenigro

thebest
June 29, 2006, 10:01 AM
first you have to survive germany. they won't be as bad as serbia & montenegro and will be much better than mexico. tomorrow might be the day for the argentinain fans last match of this tournament
Oh yea; Argentina is as weak as Costarica; Ecuador A, Poland and Sweden. Ivory Coast can beat any of those. and for your information S&M qualified directly from the group of Spain . So they are must be a bad team. Khik Khik
Remember 86, 98 the last two times Brazil met France in WC. We all know the result. Team of Brazil 86 could beat any day the team of Brazil 2006.
So hail the blues

Sovik
June 29, 2006, 10:11 AM
argentina isn't weak as costarica but germany is stronger than mexico. and speaking of serbia, they were not that weak but they got splitted as 2 different countries just 2 weaks before worldcup and that could affect any team very badly.

and we have 2 days to find out what happens to those 4 teams. and i will be very happy if argentina beats germany, then everyone will have a fair chance of wining the cup and i really like to see argentina vs brazil in the final

Bancan
June 29, 2006, 12:38 PM
brazil fans shouldnt get too cocky. the french team will win for sure inshallah

babubangla
June 29, 2006, 12:46 PM
brazil fans shouldnt get too cocky. the french team will win for sure inshallah

Forum vorti shoto shoto brazil fan mukh var korey bosey thakbey--- vabtei kharap lagay. But what else can we do?

:joy:

mac
June 29, 2006, 01:16 PM
Forum vorti shoto shoto brazil fan mukh var korey bosey thakbey--- vabtei kharap lagay. But what else can we do?

:joy:

Amar bhabte valoi lage. Good to see France returning to the winning track.:up:

Ejaj
June 29, 2006, 03:41 PM
Oh yea; Argentina is as weak as Costarica; Ecuador A, Poland and Sweden. Ivory Coast can beat any of those. and for your information S&M qualified directly from the group of Spain . So they are must be a bad team. Khik Khik
Remember 86, 98 the last two times Brazil met France in WC. We all know the result. Team of Brazil 86 could beat any day the team of Brazil 2006.
So hail the blues

I agree that Brazil doesnt have good record against France.They were beaten last two matches . But, saying Brazil team of 86 is better than present 2006, is probably a bit too much. Greatest Brazilan team not to win the world cup was in 82. France had a much better team in 86 than now . They were European champ that time and Platini was the world footballer of the year two times. They were the hot favourite in 86 to win the worldcup. Brazil 86 team were great in playmaking. But two things lacked compared to present team. Even though, present brazilian defence isnt that great, but it is still much better than 86 and far far better than 82. For 20 years, that Brazil couldnt win the world cup, the main reason was not to have a good defence system. And, other thing that lacked in 86 was surely , having a great goal scorer. Even though, present brazil isnt playing any quality football, they are still scoring goals. And in the game of football, goal makes the champion. Zico wasnt fit in 86 and only played two matches as sub including that fateful match against France. Socratis were not in the best form. The best players were unlikely, Alemao and Careca (the most over rated player ever). Falcao was horribly out of form and spend almost entire worldcup in the Bench. Mueller was the worst brazilina striker I have ever seen and I will never forgive his miss against Argentina in 90. Defence.. pathetic Camacho and Maceda were simply awful. So Even though Brazil played beautiful game under Tele santana, due to above reasons, they never won. Contrary to those teams, the present team is much better in terms of efficiency. I persoanlly, think Ronaldo is a much better Scoring Machine than Zico or Careca. They may not play the mesmerising game of 82/86, they surely are much more resutl oriented than them. Persoanlly I would preffer a team that can give achieve goal than a team playing very beutiful but not been able to score what it matters.

In a head to head battle, present team will surely tear apart the team of 86, simply because the defence of Tomas, Camacho, Vicoor and Maceda will be looking like a fool against present attack of Ronaldo, Robinho, Ronaldinho, Kaka.

Sovik
June 29, 2006, 04:21 PM
at least we will have more than 24 hrs to cheer than argentinain fans, they will definitly go home tomorrow

CricFanBD
June 29, 2006, 06:52 PM
It seems that Fight has already begun between Brazilian, Argentina's and France's supporters. Where is Germany's supporter? Are they alive? Knock Knock! Is anybody at home?

Rabz
July 1, 2006, 03:27 AM
guys..this is not 98...this is 06...
wake up...
Jhore bok pore ar fokirer keramoti bare..
just because u beat brazil in in 98 doesnt mean u can beat again...

Brazil is way too good this yr...
France is not a problem..
im thinking of playing world cup 94 final rematch... Brazil V Italy
and again...

Brazil will be the champ!!

tutul
July 1, 2006, 03:39 AM
go France! dont really care who wins WC as long as its and Europiean country. never like latin americans.

Ejaj
July 1, 2006, 08:13 AM
Although France had better world cup records against Brazil, I would still pick Brazil to overcome France. Unlike 98. they dont need to depend on Ronaldo only to score goals. Only if coach plays Ronaldo and Adriano togather. then there is a chance that France will win. On the other hand, Brazil is in better postion to have adriano as a sub. If ronaldo doesnt fire, then he can be replaced with an equally good striker at that central striker position. SO. unlike 98, France will not have the chance to relax abt the central forward postion. It will be full time bombering on their defence and full time engagement of their defenders to mark either ronaldo or adriano. Exciting!!

tiger_man
July 1, 2006, 09:44 AM
Brazils road to final is as clear as garden paths...the group matches were pissin easy.
Playing Ghana in quaters and France in quaters and england or portugal in semi..

Germany on the otherhand had it tough....Argentina then Italy next round.

Sam
July 1, 2006, 04:27 PM
Brazil is out of the WC. Finish!
They lost to France 1-0
Brazil's road to final was not a garden path, rather it was full of thorns in the quarter final.

Sovik
July 1, 2006, 04:33 PM
better team won today

Nasif
July 1, 2006, 04:33 PM
They played quite crap today. You can't win playing like that. They were simpley outplayed. France deserved to win today.

Miraz
July 1, 2006, 04:43 PM
I am going with France. Solid defence, better midfield, they only need to use their opportunities.

Come on Henry!!!:)

France proved my word, though after the exit of Argentina I was supporting Brazil today.

babubangla
July 1, 2006, 04:49 PM
make sure you come back and visit this thread on saturday... I would definately want to hear something from you after Brazil crush France..... Zidane abbu ke dore kada chara kuno upay nei Babubangla bhai :lol:

I AM HERE.
Please come and join the celebration with me.

Bancan
July 1, 2006, 05:02 PM
I AM HERE.
Please come and join the celebration with me.
i m here too.

Spitfire_x86
July 1, 2006, 05:04 PM
I'm still hopeful.

France will not go to the final :E

babubangla
July 1, 2006, 05:13 PM
This thread is kind of outdated now.
I hope some one else will open a new thread with "Germany is the favorites" or "Italy is the favorites" soon !!

Miraz
July 1, 2006, 05:22 PM
This thread is kind of outdated now.
I hope some one else will open a new thread with "Germany is the favorites" or "Italy is the favorites" soon !!

Why not 'France is now the most Favourite' :) after todays display.

So, babu bhai you take the initiative :lol:

thebest
July 1, 2006, 08:47 PM
After Pekerman's foolishness, I was depressed. When I woke up in the morning, France cheered me up. Go france. Viva la Blau, Viva la France

CricFanBD
July 2, 2006, 03:38 AM
i m here too.
Me too.

:D :D

babubangla
July 2, 2006, 03:05 PM
The "Favorites" crashed down by Magical Zidane
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/07/02/zidane_wideweb__470x286,0.jpg

SMHasan
July 2, 2006, 07:55 PM
So at last we saw the best of Zidane in this WC. Critics are silent now and I believe they can win the world again. Those who don't like France or Zidane if they like good and art of football then they should like Zidane playing the game. very few people have played this game better than him. He showed some beauty of this game by playing in a calm way. He was simply extraordinary against Brazil. Go Zizou Go!

Daddy_Mac
July 2, 2006, 10:41 PM
brazil fans shouldnt get too cocky. the french team will win for sure inshallah
yes.....Zizu will lead France to second WC glory in three WC's.....

tiger_man
July 3, 2006, 11:50 AM
I am sick of european soccer...Brazil, Argentina adds some new flavour to the game and with those teams out, WC is no more interesting than Euro cup.

babubangla
July 3, 2006, 12:02 PM
I am sick of european soccer...Brazil, Argentina adds some new flavour to the game and with those teams out, WC is no more interesting than Euro cup.

Indeed..teams like Brazil and Argentina makes the WC more colorful.
In Bangladesh, football fans all over the country mostly splits between Brazil and Argentina. I think tht's true for the whole Indian subcontinent. or even for whole Asia.

But what can we do?
Argentina paid price for tactical mistake of their think tank.
And Brazil?? Zidane is too good!! ( I wrote the whole post just to come to this last sentence .. :))