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pilot fan
July 29, 2006, 10:54 AM
positives

*rajib bowled a good consistant line and did not leek many runs
* Mash looks fit and he bowled superly
* Nefees proved that he is our best odi batsman
* Rafique batted well at the end

Negatives

* feilding was appaling
* Aftab, basher and ash all got out sloging
* spinners were shocking
* we did not acclerate our innings

there is know way that basher is to blame the bowlers let him down


zimbabwe played very well chiguburua and matsikkinyeri played as good a innings as i have seen for a long time and it shows that with the return of rainsford matskinyeri and madkaska zimabwe are a good side with lots of talent but like us a few years ago are short on exsperinace and as they play more games they will get better


Oh and javed omar has to be dropped

Mr-Cricket
July 29, 2006, 11:12 AM
Who died? ;)

I can't really comment, as I didnt' actually watch this game, but Bashar's field placments/bowling changes have always been questionable. Even now, he still doesn't seem to have got the hang of it. Compounded to his problems is the fact that the selectors cannot decide on the correct XI, nor the correct batting line up (there is no way that Aftab should be coming in at 3 - a position where the player is responsible for holding the innings together). Yes, the bowlers have let Bashar down, but Bashar's failure to take off Kapali sooner, his decision to bring on Ashraful when the match was in the balance, and ultimately his inability to apply the stranglehold (through attacking field placements/innovative bowling changes) after Zimbabwe lost its 5th wicket is what cost us.

Food for thought.

battye
July 29, 2006, 11:14 AM
Congratulations to Zimbabwe! Didn't see the game, obviously not televised down here in Australia, but by the look of it from Cricinfo, it was close throughout, but Matsikinyeri and Chigumbura showed some good form, and Utseya troubled the BD batsmen.

Andy-Flower, I hope you had a great time at the cricket :)

HawkEye000
July 29, 2006, 11:15 AM
Razzaq and Kapali should be replaced by Rasel and Saqibul. Both Shahadat and Mashrafe showed that the wickets are more helpful to the pace bowlers, so taking Russel would be really handy. Also our 5th (Kapali),6th (Aftab) and 7th (Ash) gave away 70 runs in 9.1 overs, so if we have Saqibul we would five specialist bowlers (Mash, Shahadat, Rasel, Rafique n Saqibul). Saqibul is as good as Razzaq in bowling and can match kapali's batting abilities too.

Mashud can be replaced by Mushfiqur. He really slowed us down in the slog overs and that cost us 15 runs. We could have easily posted 260.

Javed can be replaced Rajin but both are less gifted playesr with career SR of low to mid 50s. Ideally Nazmus Sadat or even Mehrab Hossain would have done a better job but we have to chosse one of them to partner Nafees unless the selectors come out of their defensive shells and go with Ash as Nafees's partner (but the chances of that are too remote).

So the playing eleven should be more like this,

Javed/Rajin
Nafees
Aftab
Ashraful
Bashar
Mushfiqur(wk)
Saqibul
Rafique
Mashrafe
Rasel
Shahadat

kfirooz
July 29, 2006, 11:18 AM
Just wondering what part complacency and over confidence would have played in this Bangladesh defeat

Mr-Cricket
July 29, 2006, 11:22 AM
Just wondering what part complacency and over confidence would have played in this Bangladesh defeat
After having them 101/5 (25.3), you'd have to put the loss solely down to complacency.

246/7 really should have been more than enough.

Fazal
July 29, 2006, 11:41 AM
Over all analysis:

We are still on our origianl plan of whitewash. Only that the strategy has been changed during team selection: now its kind of whitewash but there are some black spots also ... actually its more balck than white ... I mean its Chun Kali

and special thanks to Gullu, Aftab, Ashraful, Razzak, and ofcourse Alok our 5th allrounder bowler !!

And Special Special thanks for the selectors for including Farhad, Saquib and Rahim in the tour team but playing it safe while slecting for the 1st ODI....see thats why we had a hounarable loss... (that what was our goal all these years... isn't it?)

al Furqaan
July 29, 2006, 11:49 AM
selectors did a piss-poor job by putting in 4 spinners on a track that had them fo 1-130+, whereas the pacers went 7-75 from 20 overs, at less than 4 an over, mind you.

bashar stuck with kapali too long...but he didnt have anyone else to turn to.

rasel is a must...i'll bet these same selectors will in a match at home employ 3 pacers and just one sp. spinner so that we lose again with the pacers picky up 2-150 and rafique taking 4-40. frustrated that the selectors have a pre-conceived squad and they go with that. if they correct the problem after 1st match, i won't be too angry at them tho.

bottom line...no JO, no razzak...

act 1, scene 2 [exit JO, exit razzak, enter rasel, enter rajin]

rajin should at least get 2 chances since JO got 2 and ultimately failed.

HawkEye000
July 29, 2006, 11:52 AM
the two definite changes needed...
~ Rasel in place of Razzaq (to bolster our pace attack)
~ Saqibul in place of Kapali to solve our 5th bowler problem

PoorFan
July 29, 2006, 12:05 PM
--positives
---batting
----Nafees, Rafique
---bowling
----Mash, Shahadat

--Avarage
---batting
----Bash, Ash, Alok, Mashud
---bowling
----Razzak, Rafique

--Negative
---batting
----Aftab, Javed
---bowling
----Selectors, Alok, Aftab, Ash

--Others
---Zimbo played very well, especially middle order ( big partnership )

Replacement for next game
Alok ---> Sakib
Razzak ---> Rasel

Rabz
July 29, 2006, 12:08 PM
cant belive loose fm 101/5 to 248/8..
!!!
-well played Zimbabwe...all credit to them...
-shahadat, mashree played good..
-nafees was good..but needs to pick up his scoring rate
-never get it why does habiFool lowers himself down the order?? he is the best batsman of the team.. doenst he hv enuf confidence in himself
-didnt find the usefullness of kapali, razzak
-needs to hv saleh n rusel in
-over confidence and complecency
-not worried though

i think it was a bump we needed... too bad we lost but still hv the power to win it
4-1

better be firing all cylinders next match.. they can do it..i hv my faith on them

SS
July 29, 2006, 12:13 PM
We can't play cricket ..that's the final Mortum.

PoorFan
July 29, 2006, 12:14 PM
Negative
Lucky someone should open the match thread.;)

bapzmania
July 29, 2006, 12:25 PM
bolar kisui naiiiii......but onethin ash...javed..alok shud kick out.....ash r kotodin tennage mind niye cricket khelbe.......eder kono match fee deya hobena.........cause they broken our heart....

AsifTheManRahman
July 29, 2006, 12:40 PM
if you're doing a post mortem then at least spell it right...emnite score dekhe mejajta gorom howe gese ekhon abar eshob ajaira title

desiman21
July 29, 2006, 01:17 PM
Over all analysis:

We are still on our origianl plan of whitewash. ..........

bhai re, ekhono whitewash er asha koren.. dekhen, ki ulta na amra white wash hoia jai.. khela dekhte pari nai,, but first half audio sunchi.. er por shokale uithha dekhi ay obostha.. din tai maati hoia gelo..

BangladeshFan
July 29, 2006, 01:39 PM
bd needed more on the board, zim has depth in batting and they seem to have better batsmen in middle order than their top order.

i would suggest drop JO, and go after quick scoring by opening with rafiq. if rajin replaces JO then he can bat in middle order. but bd needs to score more from field restriction overs.

Rubu
July 29, 2006, 01:41 PM
trust me, I know our selectors by now, very very well:

they will play the same team in the next match. at least rejjaq and kopali will be there for sure.

James90
July 29, 2006, 10:31 PM
5 specialist bowlers + Kapali will keep me happy.

Ishtylish cricketer
July 29, 2006, 10:40 PM
trust me, I know our selectors by now, very very well:

they will play the same team in the next match. at least rejjaq and kopali will be there for sure.

Granted that Kaps bowled poorly but sometimes 4th or 5th bowlers bowl badly besides there are other worst players than him. At least in batting Kaps seems to know what his role is what he is supposed to do. He unlike Nafees didn't waste too many balls. In fact because our 4th and 5th bowlers got lit up pretty badly we ended up losing the game. Having said that we should have posted a total close to 300 but there is no one to accelerate at the bottom for us other Raffique and if he fails we don't put a big enough score on the board. Other reasons... well I don't even know why JO still plays international cricket. He would get my respect if he actually retired now and let some younger players come in develope. I remember "Boof" Darren Lehmen and Nasser Hussain retired early to make room for Clarke and Andrew Strauss respectively in spite of performing well. Why can't JO do something similar. He is absolutely s**t and I can't quite understand how he gets selected playing so crap.

thebest
July 30, 2006, 01:56 AM
SN 6 (He should have been there till the end and also did not try for a catch)
JO * ( I m not going to grade him; He is above evrything)
Aftab 2 ( He should be get a grade of 0, but as cricinfo mentioned he got out a good ball; Being part time bowler he would he should have more off day than regulars)*
Ash 4 (The only thing remain is to beat him for throwing start. as part time bowler he could be excused for bad bowling)
HB 5 (you have to consider how poor ODI batsman he was before last year Aus match he could have got a 6 same as SN but as captain when he would learn that he has to deciede on field without DW's instruction)
Alok 2 (Ideal batting as number 6 but sucks as bowler;He was a bowler, who can bat but now he is even worse than ___ )
Pilot 5 (As usual behind the wicket but he need to be more attacking; batting at death with strike rate below 100 is not acceptable)
Rafiq 5 (Very good batting at death is neutralized by fairly ordinary bowling; Man you are losing it in ODI, not everyday you would get opponent reeling at 50/4)
Rajjak 4 ( After a high againest aussi, it is very ordinary performance considering the fact that he was there only 15 days ago)
Mash 6 ( Took a briliant catch; Bring us back in the hunt but did not yet learn to bowl at death)
Rajib 6 ( Bowled brilliantly after changing end but shouldd sort out his no ball/wide ball problem)
Selectors 0 (What on earth they selected 2 pacers in African wicket)

My replacement

Rajjak replaced by Russel

I know most of the members joined Anti-Alok club. Lets not give him the ball; He is the ideal no 6 which we don't have.

*
Aftab Ahmed c Taylor b Mupariwa 0 (16 for 2)
Great delivery on off, kicked from a length, feathered to the 'keeper
But as a batsman he should be prepared for those.

Duck
July 30, 2006, 02:16 AM
The thread should be titled: Post Mortum Of Selectors.
I hate these guys all along........they are not proactive........cant think ahead to take a right combination of the team.......... And now they have messed well up with commissions for their middlemanship!

I think complacency and overconfidence are behind this result. :(

Rabz
July 30, 2006, 02:25 AM
very good analysis thebest..agree with most of ur comments..
the changes id have made today was:
Rajin replacing Kapali
Rusel replacing Razzak

Bashar must bat at no 3... no exception

HawkEye000
July 30, 2006, 02:30 AM
very good analysis thebest..agree with most of ur comments..
the changes id have made today was:
Rajin replacing Kapali
Rusel replacing Razzak

Bashar must bat at no 3... no exception

That would be too much pressure on Aftab's bowling, he has to bowl 10 overs, I think the only way we could solve the fifth bowler problem is by including saqibul in place of any of our 6 batsman.

mzia
July 30, 2006, 05:25 AM
Favorite, underdog, whitewash, series win abroad etc these things should be munching by the media people, fan forum, critics. Player's minds should occupy only play matter. Recent Indian tour in WI shown the characteristics of these favorite, underdog, whitewash, series win abroad by the ODI result of 1-4 in favor of WI.
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1<SUP>st</SUP> ODI Bangladesh lost to Zimbabwe; they played well, and rest matches Bangladesh will have to do better. Especially captain should come up with his encouraging role. Ground fielding was visibly poor. Bowler rotating is very effective weapon which basher could not prove his professionalism in last match. He should discuss with Khaled and Rafique. Wish good luck for Tigers.
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