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HawkEye000
July 31, 2006, 07:22 PM
It seems like Rinke was stumped of Mashrafe's bowling in the 2nd ODI. Has Masharfe lost so much of pace that Mashud is standing up to him and Rinke still charged down the wicket.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2006/7/12989/html/scorecard.stm
http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/98/98926.html
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/zimvbdesh/engine/match/249204.html

Or Mashud just run him out with Rinke standing outside the crease after the delivery was bowled. In the tiger cricket site the scoecard shows Rinke was runout but Mashrafe is credited with a wicket.
http://www.tigercricket.com/Score.aspx?matchid=444

It would be better if anyone from Bangladesh could confirm what actually happened.

Sovik
July 31, 2006, 07:29 PM
confused. cause i saw first 2 of 4 outs were run out but later it was corrected in cricinfo. may be rinke was standin out side of the crease and charged down the wicket and masud threw and broke the stump

Fazal
July 31, 2006, 07:30 PM
I think its "Mashud just run him out with Rinke standing outside the crease after the delivery was bowled" based on some game report that I read. cannot remember the soruce though.

RazabQ
July 31, 2006, 08:02 PM
Masree bowled a ball which beat the batsman, who in his follow thru footwork probably stepped out of the crease. Pilot ostensibly collected the ball and then threw it at the stumps. Since batsmen were not attempting a run this dismissal would be credited as a stumping and thus the wicket would be attributed to the bowler.

This does not imply that Pilot was standing up to him. In fact, according to tigercricket and daily star, Masree was bowling quite fast.

HereWeGo
August 1, 2006, 12:00 AM
here is what has happened

Rinke was standing outside his crease while facing mashrafee to counter the swing as so many of the batsmen does in recent times. Pilot was standing in his usual spot, some 20 yards away from the stump i presume.

The bowl that was bowled was a beauty, the batsmen was comprehensively beaten outside the off stump. Pilot collected the ball and threw it at the stumps. The batsmen was not aware about pilot throwing the bowl at the stumps, he was looking at the wicket. the next thing he knew that there was an appeal and he was declared stump out.
It was an unusual type of dismissal to witness. I think Waqar younis got a wicket like this once. u can check his stats to be certain.

Miraz
August 1, 2006, 04:17 AM
Masree bowled a ball which beat the batsman, who in his follow thru footwork probably stepped out of the crease. Pilot ostensibly collected the ball and then threw it at the stumps. Since batsmen were not attempting a run this dismissal would be credited as a stumping and thus the wicket would be attributed to the bowler.

This does not imply that Pilot was standing up to him. In fact, according to tigercricket and daily star, Masree was bowling quite fast.

Exactly!!

If rinke had a touch with his bat, it would have been a run out. This is a case of stumping as he failed to made contact and was outside the crease and Stumping is not the solo property of spinners:)

James90
August 1, 2006, 04:33 AM
Yeah, I look an identicle stumping against Padua this year. The batsman wasn't too happy.

HawkEye000
August 1, 2006, 05:07 AM
Exactly!!

If rinke had a touch with his bat, it would have been a run out. This is a case of stumping as he failed to made contact and was outside the crease and Stumping is not the solo property of spinners:)

Stumping has nothing to do with getting a touch with the bat or not. It depends on whether the batsman was attempting a run or not.

A batsman can be stumped of any edge that hits the ground before the keeper collects it and takes the bails off with the batsman not attempting a run and obviously being outside the crease. A batsman can be even stumped from a dropped catch as long as no other fielder is involved and batsman didn't attempt a run. :)

Miraz
August 1, 2006, 06:02 AM
Stumping has nothing to do with getting a touch with the bat or not. It depends on whether the batsman was attempting a run or not.

A batsman can be stumped of any edge that hits the ground before the keeper collects it and takes the bails off with the batsman not attempting a run and obviously being outside the crease. A batsman can be even stumped from a dropped catch as long as no other fielder is involved and batsman didn't attempt a run. :)

Agreed!!

This is what Wikipedia says about stumping

In cricket (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket), a batsman can be out stumped if:

the wicket-keeper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicket-keeper) puts down the wicket, while
the batsman is:
out of his ground (because he has moved down the pitch beyond the popping crease (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popping_crease), usually in an attempt to hit the ball),
receiving a delivery which is not a no ball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_ball), and
not attempting a run.Stumping is the fifth most common form of dismissal after caught (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caught), bowled (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowled), leg before wicket (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leg_before_wicket) and run out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_out). It is governed by Law 39 of the Laws of cricket (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_cricket). It is usually seen when a medium or slow bowler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowler_%28cricket%29) is bowling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_%28cricket%29). It requires co-operation between a bowler and wicket-keeper: the bowler must induce the batsman to move out of his ground, and the wicket-keeper must be quick enough to break the wicket before the batsman makes his ground (i.e. places the bat or part of his body on the ground back behind the popping crease (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crease_%28cricket%29)). The bowler obtains credit for dismissing a batsman who is stumped. A batsman may not be out stumped off a no ball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_ball), but may be stumped off a wide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_%28cricket%29) delivery.
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Ahmed_B
August 1, 2006, 07:03 AM
It seems like Rinke was stumped of Mashrafe's bowling in the 2nd ODI. Has Masharfe lost so much of pace that Mashud is standing up to him and Rinke still charged down the wicket.
No necessity to extend the imagination so far ahead really!

Or Mashud just run him out with Rinke standing outside the crease after the delivery was bowled. In the tiger cricket site the scoecard shows Rinke was runout but Mashrafe is credited with a wicket.
Yes.. that's exactly what happened. Full credit goes to cleaver Pilot and it was a crucial time when BD needed a wicket desperately. Because Bashar had missed one easy slip-catch and Shahadat missed an easy run-out chance and it was getting real frustrating. That stumping by Pilot really charged up the tigers again and frustrated ZIMs very much. It kind of turned around the mood of the match towards BD.