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sar2005
August 6, 2006, 03:37 PM
Shahriar Nafees: 5 matches, 248 runs @ 62.00
ODI Average: 35.43
I know many of us were a bit harsh on him during the whole series against ZIM. But truly believe that he has shown his class once again through his last innings. He definitely deserves a BIG THANKS from we fans for his good consistent show up so far. The way he bats, I am sure many of us would love his determination. He is the only consistency (probably after Bashar) who was able to demonstrate a true talent so far. As far as I see his technique, he well might look little ordinary with the shots when he tries to cut/slash outside the off stamp without moving his feet. However, his judgment and determination to stay in the wicket is definitely a point to praise. So far he looks like one big light in a bit darkness of BD batting line-up. Let’s hope and pray that he continues with good form and good health so that we BD fans can get rid of deadly nightmare of losing ¾ wickets within 10 overs.

Finally, you will definitely love to read what Cricinfo thinks about him (if not read already) –
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As a left-hand opening batsman, Shahriar Nafees is a rarity among Bangladesh cricketers, and at the age of 19 he was thrust into the Test squad for their maiden tour of England with just five first-class matches behind him. He hadn't fared too badly in those, however, with 350 runs at 35, and his Under-19 coach Richard McInness reckoned he had the talent and temperament to become a future Test captain. With Nafees Iqbal and Javed Omar established as Bangladesh's opening pair, the England trip was a case of watching and learning for Shahriar. He did get an opportunity in the NatWest Series, and cashed in with 75 in the final one-dayer against Australia. He made his Test debut in Sri Lanka in September 2005, and made 51 in his second match. He also got starts in all the one-day games, but converted only one into a fifty. Then in April 2006 he exploded in sensational fashion against the might of Australia, stroking his way to a brilliant hundred, his maiden first-class ton as well as his first in Tests, at Fatullah. His stunning 138, with 19 fours, set up a scarcely believable first-day total of 355 for 5 as the Aussies reeled. He added 33 in the second innings, and a brisk 79 in the second Test to show that this was no flash in the pan.- Andrew Miller (June 2006)

P.S: I’m not a relative or friend of S. Nafees ;)

al Furqaan
August 6, 2006, 03:51 PM
i agree...even if he scores 6 in one match...a 60 brings his average to a very respectable 30+...unlike ash or aftab who will score a 50 every 5th innings and the rest of the scores will be low

Spitfire_x86
August 6, 2006, 04:22 PM
His average is now respectable 35.42 after playing 22 ODIS (22 innings, 1 not out)

esteban_loaiza
August 6, 2006, 04:52 PM
If Nafees keeps it like this, he will be the captain of Bangladesh team when Bashar retires/resigns. Our beloved moron coach Richard McInnes did not select this guy for his team, remember? I see future captain in him..................

Mahmood
August 6, 2006, 05:25 PM
Nafees and Aftab, the next generation, is a completely different breed of cricketers than our senior cricketers. These kids has been in cricket and coaching since they were a child, they played worty opponents, blew away teams like Australia, Pakistan. As more of these youngsters takes over the national team, we will see the rise of Bangladesh Cricket, and years of dominating world cricket.

Fazal
August 6, 2006, 06:12 PM
Ya he did a pretty good job

Braveheart
August 6, 2006, 07:02 PM
Nafees and Aftab, the next generation, is a completely different breed of cricketers than our senior cricketers. These kids has been in cricket and coaching since they were a child, they played worty opponents, blew away teams like Australia, Pakistan. As more of these youngsters takes over the national team, we will see the rise of Bangladesh Cricket, and years of dominating world cricket.

I truly agree with you on that. Our current team is very balance however inconsistent they are. We have potentially two very good allrounders in Saqibul and Farhad. Rafique would be there at least for couple more years to hit the ball around and knock the stumps off. Abdur Razzak is very good in the onedayers while Enamul is very good at the tests. Rajin is pretty good backup bowler sometimes. Mushfiq Rahim could be a good replacement for Pilot. We have some good fast bowlers too. Mashrafi and Sahadat are pretty good in their days. Rasel is always very consistent. And all the batsmen in the team are very talented (only if they were a bit more consistent with their batting). I really think if the batsmen become more consistent and the bowlers become a bit more consistent with their line, we will have a team that can anybody at anyday.

Sovik
August 6, 2006, 07:05 PM
i am happy for him and hoping he will do the same against kenya

baisab
August 6, 2006, 07:49 PM
In my opinion he is the best opener Bangladesh has ever had, only problem is that he needs a consistant partner, and thats not JO, i think Rajin needs to be given more chance to open with him so that their partnership can develop. Or maybe Reza can start thinking about the number 2 position now that he has started his senior journey.

DotBall
August 6, 2006, 08:00 PM
S. Nafees is done very well to score a hunderd and staying Not Out. I am impressed by his determination and focus. He is an example for many upcoming youngersters.

It is way too early to call him "Mr. Consistent" or "Best Openning Batsman of BD" or anything else of that sort. I wish him all the best and I hope that he will become an outstanding batsman in this era of BD Cricket..... we need him to be.

SMHasan
August 6, 2006, 08:36 PM
Congrates to Nafees. Was at work so could not follow the last bit but well done. Now the afsos is we could have played like this in all the matches!

ialbd
August 6, 2006, 08:52 PM
yea S.Nafees might be the BD captain in future. Cant picture aftab or ash being the one......
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BD Tigers
August 6, 2006, 08:55 PM
Great job by Nafees. He is a different class and I feel bad when i see people calling for his head to after failing in couple of games.

Same goes for Rajin. This guy proves everybody wrong everytime after getting a chance, but we fan always goes basark when he doesnt score quickly or something. Some of us need to grow up.

Sovik
August 6, 2006, 09:13 PM
yea S.Nafees might be the BD captain in future. Cant picture aftab or ash being the one......

ash as a captain! god save us all.

ASA
August 6, 2006, 10:57 PM
Clearly the future captain ... hope he continues the accent.

He needs a reliable partner as many said here ... Rajin should PERMANENTLY replace JO !!!

Duck
August 6, 2006, 11:44 PM
Bucket full of congrats for Nafees for his tons..........and done the pride salvage mission for al the BD suckers............truly a portray of self-belief and mere application of that.....he is improving correcting his weakness.........that Aftab himself has not shown yet (getting big runs...that is cricket all about )....

Kamini
August 6, 2006, 11:46 PM
Hats off to Naffes! Cheers guyes!

HoPe he Keeps it up.

Rabz
August 7, 2006, 12:59 AM
congrats to Nafees.. he has on more occassions, lived up to our expectation than not... and yes, he has that consistency..as of yet...
great going man... plz keep up your good form in the future as well
all the best wishes to you.

PoorFan
August 7, 2006, 04:26 AM
I am not yet ready to call him consistent, though he is the best so far we got.

thebest
August 7, 2006, 04:41 AM
I am not yet ready to call him consistent, though he is the best so far we got.
I agree. One single ton, does not change the scenario. I would like to see a scatter graph of his score. I want to know also the standard deviation. He is as inconsistent as his team mate. In this series it is 70+,1,0, 45 and 100+. Average shooted due to the not out.Too much fluctuation.

Tokyobreeze
August 7, 2006, 08:32 AM
I agree. One single ton, does not change the scenario. I would like to see a scatter graph of his score. I want to know also the standard deviation. He is as inconsistent as his team mate. In this series it is 70+,1,0, 45 and 100+. Average shooted due to the not out.Too much fluctuation.

At least lot more consistent then Ash-Fool...At least there are 3 very good innings within 5. From so called world-class (non-performing) all-rounders like Ash-Fool, we are getting one good innings in every 20 or so innings.:down:

Fazal
August 7, 2006, 08:38 AM
I think both are true:

1. Few good scores should not be viewed as Nafees is already the best ever opener of Bangladesh. He showed some mental lapses here and there.

2. But we cannont ignore what he have achived so far, we need to acknowledge that. Further, there is no denying that he is showing a huge potential and alteast learning better than some of the seniors players.

So yes he is not there yet.... but he is going in the right direction. And thats a huge positive for us.

gatekeeper
August 7, 2006, 08:39 AM
Yes, Nafees deserves kudo-for this series atleast. He's only the second Bangladesh batsman to score centuries in both forms of the game, Asraful being the other one.

But lets not get carried away. We've seen this before in our players. A year or two of good performance and all sort of adolation by the media and the fans then they fall apart. I am not yet ready to brand him as our "Mr. Consistant".If he performes at this level AND improves for the next two years or so then yes he's our guy. Until then lets hope he delivers, the kid certainly has the goods.

It is also too early to even think about his captaincy.

Tigers_eye
August 7, 2006, 08:41 AM
S. Nafees is done very well to score a hunderd and staying Not Out. I am impressed by his determination and focus. He is an example for many upcoming youngersters.

It is way too early to call him "Mr. Consistent" or "Best Openning Batsman of BD" or anything else of that sort. I wish him all the best and I hope that he will become an outstanding batsman in this era of BD Cricket..... we need him to be.

I totally agree with you. The first ball duck stings a little. Hooking down the fine leg side in every opportunity, that's what he needs to work on. Good kid just needs to mature a little.

Tokyobreeze
August 7, 2006, 08:51 AM
I think both are true:

1. Few good scores should not be viewed as Nafees is already the best ever opener of Bangladesh. He showed some mental lapses here and there.

2. But we cannont ignore what he have achived so far, we need to acknowledge that. Further, there is no denying that he is showing a huge potential and alteast learning better than some of the seniors players.

So yes he is not there yet.... but he is going in the right direction. And thats a huge positive for us.

Exactly!Nafees is putting on good show from the beginning of his career and until now his consistency as an opener is pretty good comparing to the other players of our team.Of course, he has long way to go and its very early to predict that he will keep scooring runs like this and/or will become captain...but we certainly hope he does...Will be a great thing for our cricket...Until now he is showing every element, at least to become hopeful!

Spitfire_x86
August 7, 2006, 09:11 AM
Findings from this thread: (http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=17129)

Player -- ODI batting average -- ODI batting average (Zim & associates excluded)
S. Nafees -- 34.42 -- 21.42
Aftab -- 25.** -- 17.**
Ashraful -- 19.44 - 19.81

His average aganist minnows is world class (55.5 from 9 matches/inningses), but he hasn't been really consistent against big teams. He played well in Natwest series, but in the 3 ODI serieses against Srilanka and Australia he hasn't done well. (especially in the last 2 serieses).

Hopefully he will be able to improve his ODI record against bigger teams, too.

Duck
August 7, 2006, 09:46 AM
Findings from this thread: (http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=17129)

Player -- ODI batting average -- ODI batting average (Zim & associates excluded)
S. Nafees -- 34.42 -- 21.42
Aftab -- 25.** -- 17.**
Ashraful -- 19.44 - 19.81

His average aganist minnows is world class (55.5 from 9 matches/inningses), but he hasn't been really consistent against big teams. He played well in Natwest series, but in the 3 ODI serieses against Srilanka and Australia he hasn't done well. (especially in the last 2 serieses).

Hopefully he will be able to improve his ODI record against bigger teams, too.

Even when we are not able to win against the so called minnows like Zimbos and kenya.......please dont discriminate what SN is doing..........Talents like Aftab, Ashraful should have taken these series against Ken, Zim for correcting their weaknesses....coz they cant even hang in there....in the middle of the pitches...and do something for the teams' ultimate business: the win...when we cant dare to win against the Zims, who bothers whether we are winning agaisnst big Guns or not!

Sovik
August 7, 2006, 09:47 AM
looks like ashraful is maintaining his form against all oppostions regardless of their strength

cricket_dorshok
August 7, 2006, 10:33 AM
At least lot more consistent then Ash-Fool...At least there are 3 very good innings within 5. From so called world-class (non-performing) all-rounders like Ash-Fool, we are getting one good innings in every 20 or so innings.:down:

Who told you that Ash is consistant. Its immaterial to compare S.Nafees with Ash. Ash is our consistant inconsistant player.

I also yet to consider Nafees as a most consistant or best openner. Let him play. Aftab's average was also around 30, now its dropping down. So to judge Nafees's consistancy, we need to wait more. But yes what he is doing is far better than his team mates.

cricket_dorshok
August 7, 2006, 10:37 AM
Findings from this thread: (http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=17129)

Player -- ODI batting average -- ODI batting average (Zim & associates excluded)
S. Nafees -- 34.42 -- 21.42
Aftab -- 25.** -- 17.**
Ashraful -- 19.44 - 19.81

His average aganist minnows is world class (55.5 from 9 matches/inningses), but he hasn't been really consistent against big teams. He played well in Natwest series, but in the 3 ODI serieses against Srilanka and Australia he hasn't done well. (especially in the last 2 serieses).

Hopefully he will be able to improve his ODI record against bigger teams, too.

That means, Ash is the most consistant incosistant performer.

mac
August 7, 2006, 10:55 AM
S Nafees is surely going to be the next captain. Hats off to him.:up:

al Furqaan
August 7, 2006, 11:38 AM
Findings from this thread: (http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=17129)

Player -- ODI batting average -- ODI batting average (Zim & associates excluded)
S. Nafees -- 34.42 -- 21.42
Aftab -- 25.** -- 17.**
Ashraful -- 19.44 - 19.81

His average aganist minnows is world class (55.5 from 9 matches/inningses), but he hasn't been really consistent against big teams. He played well in Natwest series, but in the 3 ODI serieses against Srilanka and Australia he hasn't done well. (especially in the last 2 serieses).

Hopefully he will be able to improve his ODI record against bigger teams, too.

well, SN has only plated a few matches against the big boys...i think he'll come through for us there...but its good to see that someone is using the minnows to boost his averages...i mean thats what happens with all the stars in the World Cup; they pummel the minnows and get their stats up.

Tokyobreeze
August 7, 2006, 12:10 PM
Who told you that Ash is consistant. Its immaterial to compare S.Nafees with Ash. Ash is our consistant inconsistant player.



I didn't say Ash-Fool is consistent...Rather I tried to say that the consistency of Nafess should be praised more considering the abysmal inconsistency of Ash-Fool.

shaoun
August 7, 2006, 01:16 PM
its good to see shariar nafees performing well. he scored a century against australia in the last series. i dont think we should consider aftab and ashraful. aftab has been alot more consistant then ashraful, specially in odi. ashraful can score big runs against any team and he proves it ones every year.

Spitfire_x86
August 7, 2006, 01:30 PM
well, SN has only plated a few matches against the big boys...i think he'll come through for us there...but its good to see that someone is using the minnows to boost his averages...i mean thats what happens with all the stars in the World Cup; they pummel the minnows and get their stats up.
SN has played 13 matches against big teams and 9 matches against Zimbabwe/Kenya. Stars of other teams don't play 41% of their matches against minnows. So even if Tendulkar averages 80 against Kenya, it doesn't influence his overall average too much.

BTW, it's just bothering me that his average really doesn't show his real capabilities yet. Bashar's test average remains nearly same, even if we take out the tests against weakened Zimbabwe side.

I just brought up some important stats for discussion. It doesn't mean that I don't appreciate SN's consistent performance against minnows or Aftab's ability to destroy bowling attacks of lesser quality. Afterall, not many from our team has been able to do these things regularly against weaker sides. But our real goal is higher than that, and we should always remain aware of it.

kalpurush
August 7, 2006, 02:20 PM
I am still in shock though Nafees played great in the last ODI against Zimbabwe! I am trying to forget the misery we been through, but can't!! Who knows how long it will take...

Beamer
August 7, 2006, 02:49 PM
What I find the most encouraging aspect of his short career so far is his ability to play longer innings when he gets set. That is a very cruicial element needed if you want to become a succesful batsman. Offcourse, at any time, a great delivery can take your wkt and you can't do anything about it. But the ability to extend your innings to a longer bigger one after being set is something that is missing from our other players. Good going so far. We need a permanent partner for him..

al Furqaan
August 7, 2006, 03:39 PM
What I find the most encouraging aspect of his short career so far is his ability to play longer innings when he gets set. That is a very cruicial element needed if you want to become a succesful batsman. Offcourse, at any time, a great delivery can take your wkt and you can't do anything about it. But the ability to extend your innings to a longer bigger one after being set is something that is missing from our other players. Good going so far. We need a permanent partner for him..

spot on

cricketboy
August 7, 2006, 05:15 PM
Cant even think S. Nafees was left out of the squad from our Under 19 squad in Under 19 world cup in 2004 in Bangladesh. They made Ashiqur Rahman captain, a person who looked like a below average player.(I went to the stadium for few games, I was in BD at that time). :cool:

I think if Nafees can perform well one day he may be our new captain but that should be about 2 years later atleast.

akabir77
August 7, 2006, 05:55 PM
good job by SN but for how long???

Bd batsmen are like Bangla movie actress. Once they become popular they become fat when in this case...

HawkEye000
August 7, 2006, 06:05 PM
His average aganist minnows is world class (55.5 from 9 matches/inningses), but he hasn't been really consistent against big teams.

He averaged 62.50 against Australia in the test matches. So it's not that he does not play well against quality bowling. It is really a matter of time before he gets it right against quality opposition in the ODIs.

Duck
August 7, 2006, 07:34 PM
good job by SN but for how long???

Bd batsmen are like Bangla movie actress. Once they become popular they become fat when in this case...

......hahaha..........the best depiction of BD players............:D

Dhurr
August 7, 2006, 07:47 PM
sar2005, cats eyes and beamer, good posts.

esteban_loaiza
August 7, 2006, 07:58 PM
The good thing for Nafees is that Aftab and Ashraful are much more talented than him. So both Aftab and Ashraful will play great innings here and there (and be highly inconsistent) and people will praise them so highly they will think they are Tendulkar or something. Reprters will write highly emotinally charged reports on them. They will become model for some companies, etc. etc. What I am trying to say that spotlight will always be on some other guy, not of Nafees. So he will have a greater chance to grow and learn the game in the right way. May be this was his secret for consistency.

Dhurr
August 7, 2006, 08:05 PM
The good thing for Nafees is that Aftab and Ashraful are much more talented than him. So both Aftab and Ashraful will play great innings here and there (and be highly inconsistent) and people will praise them so highly they will think they are Tendulkar or something. Reprters will write highly emotinally charged reports on them. They will become model for some companies, etc. etc. What I am trying to say that spotlight will always be on some other guy, not of Nafees. So he will have a greater chance to grow and learn the game in the right way. May be this was his secret for consistency.

Now every one is making a big deal about Nafees because he scored a century. Wait until he goes through a bad patch, and then everyone will jump on the anti-Nafees bandwagon and say how he scores so slowly (which he does). Pretty much every one here jumped on the anti-Golla bandwagon, so I dont doubt that they will jump on Nafees's case too once he goes through a lean patch.

ZunIAD
August 7, 2006, 09:58 PM
I believe Nafees is our batsman. When this guy bats he looks comfortable on crease. His tempermant and shot selection is good. He has good confidence about his ability and doesnt let pressure get to him. I would expect a failure here and there but i believe he will be consistent most of the time. Mark Waugh was in the panel on fox sports when the match was being telecast in australia, he made good comments on his ability and classified him as a class batsman. He toured England with BD A and played excpetionally well in both odi and 4 day matches averaging of 35 on both

Carte Blanche
August 7, 2006, 10:02 PM
Clearly the future captain ... hope he continues the accent.

He needs a reliable partner as many said here ... Rajin should PERMANENTLY replace JO !!!

Not clearly. There was a time many used to say Rajin is clearly the future captain. Pretty soon Rajin actually lost his place in the team. Let's be more patient with this Abir kid as well.

ZunIAD
August 7, 2006, 10:07 PM
Dhurr dont be pessimistic on nafees. I am no huge fan of nafees but i am sure nafees has the abilty unlike golla, opi, sarkar (who doesnt know where his offstumps is hehehe) and who ever. As i said above his technique, shot selection, tempermant and confidence will make him the perfect candidate for opening. This is obvious when he bats unlike most Bd batsman who looks uncomfortable on the crease. A good batsman looks comfortable on the crease and it is obvious. Take ricky pointing, Inzamamul Haq, Rahul Dravid and alot more to mention.

ZunIAD
August 7, 2006, 10:11 PM
Rajin is a denceny player with both bat and bowl. I think people were just plain stupid to think of him being the captain. I dont know about nafees ability to captain. The selection panel, team and management would know who is the right captain. Captain requires charisma, heart and nerves. It is dumb for the public to make a judgement who is the right captain.

Dhurr
August 7, 2006, 10:13 PM
Dhurr dont be pessimistic on nafees. I am no huge fan of nafees but i am sure nafees has the abilty unlike golla, opi, sarkar (who doesnt know where his offstumps is hehehe) and who ever. As i said above his technique, shot selection, tempermant and confidence will make him the perfect candidate for opening. This is obvious when he bats unlike most Bd batsman who looks uncomfortable on the crease. A good batsman looks comfortable on the crease and it is obvious. Take ricky pointing, Inzamamul Haq, Rahul Dravid and alot more to mention.

I am not pessimistic. If anything, I think he's a pretty darn good player. I just think when he goes through a bad patch (and every player in the world does, one time or another), banglacricket fans are going to jump on his case and mention his slow strike rate, how he fishes outside the off stump and so on. I think he should stay and I think he'll be very good for our team's future.

Fazal
August 7, 2006, 10:26 PM
So far Nafees have shown us hope than any other possible alternatives in top order. Now he is not perfect, but on the other hand its a darn good individual performace for him.

Tomorrow he may loose his form, make silly mistakes, will be enemy #1 for the fans, or he will continue to grow further .and will be the fan favorite #1.. who knows... we don't know the future... and its pointless to try to predict... we will deal with that in future.

But as for now... he did a good enough job to get fan's kudos and thats what he should get now.

Spitfire_x86
August 7, 2006, 11:24 PM
Now every one is making a big deal about Nafees because he scored a century. Wait until he goes through a bad patch, and then everyone will jump on the anti-Nafees bandwagon and say how he scores so slowly (which he does). Pretty much every one here jumped on the anti-Golla bandwagon, so I dont doubt that they will jump on Nafees's case too once he goes through a lean patch.
Comparing SN with Golla is a crime. Golla isn't going through a lean patch, this has been his true form throughout most of his international career. He didn't miss two world cups without a reason. Although he was in the 1997 ICC Trophy squad, he didn't get a single game. Someone who is not good enough for ICC Trophy can never become indispensible Test/ODI player, but somehow he became one in the eyes of selectors and some fans.

cricketboy
August 7, 2006, 11:27 PM
One bad thing about Nafees is that he is sometimes too slow and after staying for a long time gets frustrated and slogs and gets out.

sar2005
August 29, 2006, 06:54 AM
Congratulations to SN on becoming the VC of BD. Let's hope that the responsibility doesn't create pressure on his batting. I can recall his performance as a captain in BD A team and that was quite good. By the time when Bashar/Pilot will retire, I hope he will be a world class captain in the cricket world.

Let's have a look again what CI says about him -
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/56153.html