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Zobair
August 13, 2006, 10:15 AM
Hats off to him! he singlehandedly snatched us the win from the jaws of defeat! Such intensity, commitment, the hunger/desperation to win (that look in his eyes), the responsibility with which he played and shepherded Razzak...What a player?! We critisize him, some of it fair and some of it unfair, when he does poorly, so it is only fair to applaud him in his moment of triumph. He saved us from real embarassment today. Thank you, Masri! You are a real asset to the Tigers!

Also hats off to Kenya, they really took the fight to us and believed in themselves and were not resigned to their fate, both things we have been guilty of too often in the past against stronger teams.

And now! for our first whitewash on foreign soil!

Rabz
August 13, 2006, 10:19 AM
yes, Mash saves us few many ugly blushes today... got us out of that dead situation and saved our face....
i think the key is self believe... Mash knows he is a decent batsman and this is Kenya for God's sake... if u stay there and play normally, u can score the runs..
and he showed exactly that...

Hat's off to you brave tiger, hats off to you.

now i think he should target for 3rd MoM in a row, that surely wud be a new record for BD.

Warlock
August 13, 2006, 10:21 AM
Mashrafe showed a lot of maturity and may be this was his personal response to the heartbreaking loss in the 3rd ODI against Zimbabwe.

Warlock
August 13, 2006, 10:26 AM
now i think he should target for 3rd MoM in a row, that surely wud be a new record for BD.
Now that you have mentioned it, I went back and checked the scorecard of the last match. I thought Ashraful was the MOM and was a bit surprised to see Mashrafe getting it. Anyway- considering his today's performance which is worth two MOM awards I guess with hindsight the judges were right to give him the MOM in the first match.:)
And good luck to him for the next match. Though, I would personally like to see BD taking the bat first and someone smashing a 100. :flag:
I would be really happy if Aftab gets some runs tomorrow. He toiled for a long time today, unfortunately couldn't stay till the end.

Ahmed_B
August 13, 2006, 10:30 AM
He is really a genuin match-winner for BD. The so-called top-order BD batsmen should be really ashamedof themselves comparing to the nerves and control of Mash!

Mohiul
August 13, 2006, 10:44 AM
Yap, It's him মাশরাফি বিন মূর্তাজা কৌশিক

DotBall
August 13, 2006, 10:56 AM
He has done very well to hold his nerve to win the match for us. Congrats to him.
We need his bowling to be more effective and economic. I hope he makes necessary adjustments to get ready for C. Trophy. May be our captains can start thinking about using other bowlers in the slog overs (if we have any better than Masri)

Miraz
August 13, 2006, 11:00 AM
This is the best ODI innings by any BD batsman under tremendous pressure. He batted with responsibility and also enured proper support from Razzak. Hats off to him. You saved our face today from embrassment.

Rubu
August 13, 2006, 11:08 AM
For today's performance I fogive 25% of his sin for that last over in 3rd game against zim.

fwullah
August 13, 2006, 11:09 AM
I STRONGLY DISAGREE. Like Shanto, Mashrafee is just a better batsman than a bowler.

If he had done his job properly earlier with the ball, we could have easily bowled out Kenya well below 184 total and we would not be in the position where our batsman were in. After taking 7 wickets of the opposition team down, you are expected to bowl them out long before the 47th over, where, Mashrafee gave away too many boundary balls in his last couple of overs.

Like I said, like Shanto, Mashrafee is a better batsman than a bowler.

Tokyobreeze
August 13, 2006, 11:10 AM
Mash really played great.And, best thing to see is that the eighth-wicket partnership has won thhe game for us.That means that we are getting matured as a team.Still it remains as a matter of shame how our so called genius like 'Ash-Fool' is playing.Just think once that we might not get into a situation like this that our lower order has to put such great effort for winning the game, if Ash-Fool didn't play that foooooolish and reckless shot .

akabir77
August 13, 2006, 11:16 AM
well done mash.. u still have it... thought you need learn how to bowl at the end...
We won couple of matches for his local team in bd league. And If I can remember correctly he won at least one or two matches from same kinda situation...This shows how important those local games r it doesn't matter what the level is

fwullah
August 13, 2006, 11:16 AM
I STRONGLY DISAGREE. Like Shanto, Mashrafee is just a better batsman than a bowler.

If he had done his job properly earlier with the ball, we could have easily bowled out Kenya well below 184 total and we would not be in the position where our batsman were in. After taking 7 wickets of the opposition team down, you are expected to bowl them out long before the 47th over, where, Mashrafee gave away too many boundary balls in his last couple of overs.

Like I said, like Shanto, Mashrafee is a better batsman than a bowler.

Zobair
August 13, 2006, 11:23 AM
I was thinking the same! Mashrafee's redemption! He not only ensured that we win this ODI but also shut out any possibility of us losing the series to Kenya! Now how embarassing and morale-shattering that would have been for our entire cricket establishment?! If Kenya had won today, the momentum would have been firmly with them going into the third ODI and they are the home team and they are band of fighters. A Kenyan win today would have emboldened them and destroyed our morale for the deciding ODI. Anyway, that is the past and we have had a very very narrow escape.

On another note, Mashud's batting these days has really gone downhill. His keeping remains first-rate of course! However in ODIs, to become a quality side we need a decent keeper who can be first rate batsman. Mushfiq seems to fit the bill.

Mashrafe showed a lot of maturity and may be this was his personal response to the heartbreaking loss in the 3rd ODI against Zimbabwe.

Warlock
August 13, 2006, 11:49 AM
But the real problem shouldn't escape our notice- we still don't have a batsman who can hold the middle-order together. Many of us probably remember the batting of Akram Khan against Holland (ICC) or Nannu's batting against Pak (WC). They hanged on there when it was needed, played cautiously when wickets were falling, got set and then played their shots and eventually got us through. I think it is the right kind of attitude or the right mentality of a batsman that is most needed from our players now. I mean what is this- most of our batters scoring 10-15 quick runs, almost getting set and then needlessly throwing away their wickets playing expansive shots like hooks or pulls. Why can't we get past the "Para-Moholla" style cricket game where everybody is trying to hit big and win the game in 4s and 6s. What mashrafe showed today- is you just stay there, rotate the strike, hit an occassional boundary and that is enough for a win.

fwullah
August 13, 2006, 12:05 PM
Since you mentioned the names of Akram-Nannu, that is exactly what I wanted to say in one of the posts, but then loadshedding started and couldn't write what I was thinking during the match-time.

My thoughts at the time were like this - since our Akram, Bulbul, Nannu could not do it - win a series in Kenya, then how can Ashraful-Aftab-Rajin-Shahriar Nafees do it?

Tokyobreeze
August 13, 2006, 12:42 PM
On another note, Mashud's batting these days has really gone downhill. His keeping remains first-rate of course! However in ODIs, to become a quality side we need a decent keeper who can be first rate batsman. Mushfiq seems to fit the bill.

I strongly second that Mushfiq should be brought immidiately.Keeping the world cup in mind we gotta get him ready.In the 2nd ODI against Kenya Mashud have shown that he is also becoming very frail when the pressure mounts, for which he was femous earlier.We gotta bring Mushfiq soon.The sooner the better.

mof
August 13, 2006, 12:54 PM
well done mushrafe. keep it up tigers. develop winning as habit.

we surely need the experience that our senior players bring into the squad but i doubt someone having too many bad experiences might not have the courage to take the responsibility on own shoulders and win a match for his fans. talking about pilot. he should only concentrate in tests and make the way for the youngstar in odis.

i dont think our selectors are not thinking what we are thinking today but they seem to lack confidence and always taking the decision six month late. we are always less than our maximum possible strength.

regards

pagol-chagol
August 13, 2006, 01:03 PM
I loved the maturity and the leadership skills he showed. He is growing.

sadi
August 13, 2006, 01:12 PM
I remember him saying to razzak.... tui thak please, tui out hoile amra parbona... he lead razzak and got us through... amazing knock

Warlock
August 13, 2006, 02:10 PM
My thoughts at the time were like this - since our Akram, Bulbul, Nannu could not do it - win a series in Kenya, then how can Ashraful-Aftab-Rajin-Shahriar Nafees do it?
It was more like the tailenders (Mashrafe and Razzak) won the series for us.:)
can't believe we had such a hard time beating the Kenyans. Shows the real depth (or lack of depth?) of BD cricket team.:-/
But I guess a true supporter shouldn't always complain and should support the team every now and then, so I will stop whining :) :flag: Congrats to the team but I do hope they have learnt a few lessons from the Zimbabweans and the Kenyans.

sunny747
August 13, 2006, 02:10 PM
I remember him saying to razzak.... tui thak please, tui out hoile amra parbona... he lead razzak and got us through... amazing knock

i heard that too and it really touched my heart........

al Furqaan
August 13, 2006, 02:56 PM
I remember him saying to razzak.... tui thak please, tui out hoile amra parbona... he lead razzak and got us through... amazing knock

good leadership...even better that it worked. perhaps he should be the next captain.

ZunIAD
August 13, 2006, 04:37 PM
Hats of to Mashrafe and Rasel who played professinally to win the game for bangladesh. This is especially good for mashrafe since he bowled the bad last over on 3rd odi against zimbabwe. I am sure this will give confidence in other games. The question why the hell we won by 2 wickets against kenya? What happend with our batsman was it nerve, form or kenya bowled well? Not professinal batting at all. I guess it harder playing overseas.

BangladeshFan
August 13, 2006, 04:42 PM
bd performance was poor indeed, 134 for 8 and mashrafi heroics saved the day. every batsman threw their wickets, tried flashing strokes and got caught. even number 10 rajjak hit a 6 and got away with it. they are suffering from over confidence syndrome.

cricket_pagol
August 13, 2006, 05:04 PM
Every player has his ups and downs. You cannot expect a player to produce match winning performance all the time. I guess Masri's weakness has been his bowling at the end of the innings. But, with his sheer determination i think he will conquer his weakness.

Sovik
August 13, 2006, 08:47 PM
mash needed this too. i think everybody has forgiven him after this match winning performance

bapzmania
August 13, 2006, 09:09 PM
After the 1st Odi.....he said "Fao Fao 150$ pailam".....now after the 2nd Odi what he will say...but newayz ty for ur great work which saves us from another shame....

Tendulkar_Mcgrath
August 13, 2006, 11:58 PM
no doubt!!!

mac
August 14, 2006, 12:05 AM
Thanks Mash for saving us, I think we have found our new captain.:flag:

rafiq
August 14, 2006, 12:24 AM
mashrafee was great

btw i don't know why mashud has lost all fluency with the bat, but all those advocating "immediate" drafting of mushfiq as keeper in the ODI squad, i have one question: have you seen the boy keep? How does his keeping compare with Mashud? Do you think he should learn keeping during the WC?

ammark
August 14, 2006, 01:17 AM
finally a sane word from Rafiq bhai abt Pilot. Sure, Mushfiq could have kept wicket in this series to hone his skills, but Pilot was also excellent behind the stumps too. Its ridiculous for people to already call in pichchi Mushfiq in the highest level just because Pilots batting sucks.

Anyways this thread is dedicated to Pagla: He was our match winner no doubt... and kudos to him for saving the face of BD team. I forgive him for his last overs vs Zim. Especially if we lost yesterday, you think you'd want to show your face in the cricket world?

Rabz
August 14, 2006, 01:35 AM
the thing with Akram,Bulbul and Nannu is that they didnt get their fame overnight.
when they started to play the game it was purely for the love and passion of it.
there were not much money, not much expectation. they learned it the hardest way.they r the true torch barrier of this game for our country. they knew their limitations and played accordingly. hec they had to come out in the street once to demand a proper cricket ground to play some regular games. thats how hard it was for them.

but for our Ashrafools, Aftab and gong, it came too easy. one good innings early in thier career, they all of a sudden found themselves in the realm of international media, fame, money, fortune and everything that comes along with it. and also knowing thier abilities and potential, which i hv to admit is very good, they somehow lost the plot. they think they can be Tendulkar or Lara and go out there and belt every possible ball.

yes dedication is there, but im not sure bout hardwork and perseverance...
they had it too easy and thats the main problem..

look how the youngsters Sakib and Reza is playing. they, being the new generation of cricketers and coming from within a hard fought contention, knows they would hv to play good to stay in the team. hope this is the case in the future and we would see other players being consistent as well.

Dhakablues
August 14, 2006, 01:49 AM
1. Mashrafee is always a better bowler than a batsman. He is the strke bowler for Bangladesh and before him, none of us knew what a fast bowler was in Bangladesh, with all due respect to Badshah, Prince et al. You cannot think of a complete pace attack withou Mashrafee.
2. Mashrafee always had ( and maybe still has) the potential to become an allrounder. Today he proved that again. Its no surprise to anyone that he carried the bat till the end because in all honesty, today's team had 10 batsmen who has some kind of big scores or assisted big scores with them.
3. Can you please get past that 18 runs over from Mashrafee? Give some credit to Zimbabwe as well to score those runs. Its not that easy to score 18 runs in one over and not easy to bowl an in-form bastmen in marauding mood in final overs either. He is by far not the worst bowler in the face of earth and only in 4th time in the history of ODI a team was won like that. And if Bangladesh lost the 3rd match because of Mashrafee than could you ask why we lost the 4th match? Was it due to him as well?
4. Take it or leave it, there is only one/two players in the squad that never gives up meekly for the country ( which is called being a professional in other countries),,, Mashrafee is one of them. If you saw the game today, he was non-challant after the win, he did his job as a player, he completed the win and waiting for the next match. There is no questions about his bowling capabilities. There are hopes about his batting as well.

PoorFan
August 14, 2006, 02:24 AM
Mashree did a great job yesterday and saved us from the BIGGEST humiliation in this Afro series. But I still cant digest the series lose to Zimbo. Our top order is the BIGGEST loser in this whole Afro series, cant forgive them.

Hatebreed
August 14, 2006, 02:25 AM
Mashrafee's Redemption.

Well done Masri, glad to see you not choke under pressure. Hopefully this performance has given you much of your confidence back. Keep it up!

thebest
August 14, 2006, 05:30 AM
Mashree did a great job yesterday and saved us from the BIGGEST humiliation in this Afro series. But I still cant digest the series lose to Zimbo. Our top order is the BIGGEST loser in this whole Afro series, cant forgive them.

:up:
Any way, I blame Mash only at the heat of moment for the terrible lose.
Taylor's brilliance and Pilot's reactive captaincy lose that match.
Mash job well done. but we (team management) have to think about his bowling at death. even yesterday, he lost it. From SL series this may be 4th or 5th time in 10 odd games he has concede more than 15 in an over. Yesterday was not a pressure sitution. we have to concede he is not yet ready to bowl at death. Let Rajjak and Rafiq do it. He should finish his quota before 30 when the ball is hard and new

fwullah
August 14, 2006, 07:06 AM
I say, why not let Mashrafee bowl his last over as the 38th or the 39th over in a conventional ODI?

I mean, in an usual ODI match, we usually bring a pace bowler to come into the attack - as is the tradition.

By the way, talking about bowling at the death, neither Mashrafee, Shahadat nor Russel is good enough, is there any chance for Tapash Baisya to bring back to the national side?

kalpurush
August 14, 2006, 09:47 AM
Ha! ha!! bringing back Tapash? Unfortunately, he is good only to play domestic cricket now a days...

kalpurush
August 14, 2006, 09:50 AM
Mashree led from the top.
I fogive 35% of Mashrafee's sin for that last over in 3rd game against zimbabwe!<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Tigers_eye
August 14, 2006, 10:06 AM
To honor the Norail Express I have changed my signature.

As much as I have critized him for the full tosses, I should balance it out for his Hudini act.

sadi
August 14, 2006, 10:54 AM
If you know Mashrafee can't bowl at death, why give him the ball in the first place? Let him sort his bowling in the death in domestic cricket first and when he feels comfortable, bring him back... for now, let rafique and someone else do it... I know, you always expect your strike bowler to do this job for you but sometimes you have to work around things...

Batting wise, it was a great knock... the way he drove the ball, it was way better than our specialist batsman... he kept the ball in the ground when all of the batsmen hit it in the air (eg forhad reza, played well and get out when mishra took a great catch but why drive it in the air in the first place?). Did anyone see his stright drive four? It was probably the shot of the match. Any batsman would feel good about himself after playing this shot.

shovon13
August 14, 2006, 02:39 PM
when your best pacer is having a hard time bowling at the death, the team's responsibility is to help him learn how to bowl at the death. masri wouldn't even be playing in the national team for most test nations, because he's too young. he is still on a pretty steep learning curve, just like almost everyone else on our team. cant believe some of you are suggesting not letting him bowl at the death ever.

Ubiquitous
August 14, 2006, 03:35 PM
i think the suggestion is to let him bowl the last over(s) after a little bit more practice. he clearly has the right temperment, if his batting is anything to go by. he just needs to learn that four attempted yorkers is just not on..

Ahmed_B
August 15, 2006, 05:11 AM
Hats off to this big lad! Great bowling today!!

Mash was just too very good for the Kenyans... and the way he bowled today, he is becoming very accurate and vicious with every game. He is surely going to be one big tool for BD in the coming world cup in te Carribean Fast wickets! :)

HawkEye000
August 15, 2006, 05:44 AM
It was not long before some bc members seriously thought he took bribes to throw a match against Zimbabwe. Hopefully some sense had gone to the head of those bc members. Hopefully very soon he would also start bowling in the death overs too.

Rabz
August 15, 2006, 05:51 AM
Impressive Mashree at his best again !!
what a performance...
he certainly redemped himself beyoud that dreadful one over aginst kenya...

keep it up Pagla !