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pagol-chagol
August 29, 2006, 10:37 AM
It was 1 A.M. and I was sleepy. Here is a quick summary: *Bulbul and Manzurul Islam(Lefty pacer) was on TV with this anchor, who seems to know his stuffs. *The anchor dislikes Whatmore. Bulbul seems to dislike him too. Bulbul also seem to be in bad terms with the insiders. * Raised some good points. Specialist bowling and batting coaches essential. *Asharaul had avg 28 pre whatmore. Since then its 24. * Think tank has to take responsibility for the batsmen not improving. * Dave has communication problem with the team. Therefore, they implied that he sucks!?! * Ashraful need a Bengali psychologist. * Bulbul think BD can beat West Indies in Championship trophy qualifier. * Bulbul has high hopes for Shahriar Nafees. * Bulbul loves Golla and Moni. * Bulbul wants the openning chemistry of Opi +Biddut in our new pair * Bulbul looked handsome and well spoken. Looked like this actor of the natok "69", the guy who was a fraud and married to the big daughter. Has been using "Fair and Lovely" 5 times a day.

Tigers_eye
August 29, 2006, 10:43 AM
bc' tey Bulbul'er ar kono creditability thakbey na just for one comment.

"Bulbul loves Golla and Moni."

Rabz
August 29, 2006, 10:43 AM
on what tv? which show? when was it? who was the host? why u were sleepy at 1am? why not sleep by then? where r u located? dhaka?

SMHasan
August 29, 2006, 10:57 AM
on what tv? which show? when was it? who was the host? why u were sleepy at 1am? why not sleep by then? where r u located? dhaka?

lol! So many question at a time!He is gonn take his time to respond like BCB :)

And to Pago_chagol bhai (hai re, ajkal pagol chagolder o bhai dakte hoi), I don't understand one thing why Dav got communication gap with the team? Why no one raised the question in his early moments of Bd capter?

It does not matter whether Aminul likes JO or Moni, they are bunch of idiots. One doesn't know how to bat and another can bowl only flighted delivery other than nothing. It seems he is just looking at the past not the future although the future is bright!

kalpurush
August 29, 2006, 05:26 PM
I am surprized how could an ex-captain like Bulbul show little respect to our national coach! And he was on TV!! Respect is a mutual thing. If he wants to get it then he should show it to others too.

PoorFan
August 29, 2006, 10:24 PM
I am surprized how could an ex-captain like Bulbul show little respect to our national coach! And he was on TV!! Respect is a mutual thing. If he wants to get it then he should show it to others too.
<!--StartFragment -->If someone criticize someone's 'performance' and 'outcome' doesn't mean he has 'little respect' on him or 'showing no respect' to him. I find nothing on that original post, that suggest Bulbul has 'little respect' on Dav, he may 'dislike' Dav's works and outcome which is totally 'fair' in my opinion.

kalpurush
August 29, 2006, 10:57 PM
<!--StartFragment -->If someone criticize someone's 'performance' and 'outcome' doesn't mean he has 'little respect' on him or 'showing no respect' to him. I find nothing on that original post, that suggest Bulbul has 'little respect' on Dav, he may 'dislike' Dav's works and outcome which is totally 'fair' in my opinion.


Originaly posted by: pagol-chagol:

they implied that he sucks!?!
(they = Bulbul and Manjurul)

I have nothing to say here anymore!!:)

PoorFan
August 29, 2006, 11:49 PM
Originaly posted by: pagol-chagol:

they implied that he sucks!?!
(they = Bulbul and Manjurul)

I have nothing to say here anymore!!:)
... And that was pagol-chagol's remark on their ( Bulbul and Manjurul ) comment.:)

mshakir56
August 30, 2006, 12:59 AM
After losing the Zimbabwe series, its almost impossible to say, that we can beat West Indies. Keeping in Mind that before our series against Zimbabwe, West Indies Beat the hack out of Zimbabwe, just like we did to Kenya.

fwullah
August 30, 2006, 05:10 AM
For us to beat the West Indies in the Champions trophy, a lot of things will have to go our way, which are -

1. Our team will have to be in match practice, which they won't be, even after if BCB arranges some practice matches vs. BD A or BCB Academy teams

2. Our team will have to be in good spirit, which includes everybody in the team - the team management, the selectors, not only unity among the players, which there isn't at this moment

3. Our team has to have all our senior players available and in-form, Bashar may or may not play due to injury, Rafique and Pilot's form is not so much to speak about

4. Some of our youngsters have to really raise their game - anyone anytime can do it - like Saquib and Forhad Reza raised on the occassion - but who will do it this time? Mehrab Junior?

5. No injury worries - besides Bashar, Mashrafee, Shahadat and others have to be 100% injury-free during the tournament

So, I see a lot of variables for us to beat the West Indies, and lets not forget the fact that the players of the WI team will also have to play badly on the given day.

thebest
August 30, 2006, 07:14 AM
Ok I got the candidate of the media. they want Bulbul to replace Dave. I hv no problem on tht.
I did not saw what comment he made on Golla. But any comment on Golla's importance to team who force me ask his cricketing judgement? and beating WI in champions trophy. if he spoke as a supporter, he could dream. But as a former captain, I would again ask his judgement. Today, if there is poll, whether we beat WI in Champions trophy, it would a close contest. even fans do not have faith on the team. It does not only include SS or fwullah, but lots of fan who like to see glass half full.
Ash need Bangali psycologist to perform. I dont think so. He just need good old kick in the back.
Bulbul does not like DW. Does it matter? DW is not there to win popularity contest. Pre-DW Ash may have an avg of 28 but we have only one win againest established nation which is even clouded by match fixing allegation. Why he did not talk about HB's performance or Rafiq?

Ahmed_B
August 30, 2006, 07:41 AM
Hmm... quite a thread by pagol-chagol. :)

Hei man... this is turning out to be one of those 'kan niye gelo chil-e' threads... probably due to lots of misinterpretations of a 2nd hand commentary(by p-c) of the interview. So I guess it's upto pagol-chagol again to set the tone of the thread back on track..

However, just my opinions on the matter:

1) Bulbul is a matured cricket brain and he surely won't go as far as making disrespecting comments against Dav.

2) No coach in the world is flawless.. and if anyone has the right to do some constructive criticism on coaching... it has to be from the senior and prominent retired national team players of the country. Bulbul surely has earned that place in our cricket. And ofcourse... criticizing any negative aspect of any coach is not a sin, rather it can be productive as well.

I am not going to make any more comments on the other points ... because I did not really watch the interview and so I don't know exactly what was the mood or tone of the whole discussion.

sadi
August 30, 2006, 07:55 AM
We are commenting on this whole issue without even knowing what exactly he said against Dav or for Golla.

TheWatcher
August 30, 2006, 10:12 AM
*Asharaul had avg 28 pre whatmore. Since then its 24.
Did Bulbul really claim that ? That's weird, because according to statsguru (http://statserver.cricket.org/guru?sdb=player;playerid=24667;class=testplayer;fi lter=advanced;team=0;opposition=0;notopposition=0; homeaway=0;continent=0;country=0;notcountry=0;grou ndid=0;season=0;startdefault=2001-09-06;start=2001-09-06;enddefault=2006-04-20;end=2003-05-20;tourneyid=0;finals=0;daynight=0;toss=0;schedule ddays=0;scheduledovers=0;innings=0;followon=0;resu lt=0;seriesresult=0;captain=0;keeper=0;dnp=0;recen t=;viewtype=bat_list;runslow=;runshigh=;batpositio n=0;dismissal=0;bowposition=0;ballslow=;ballshigh= ;bpof=0;overslow=;overshigh=;conclow=;conchigh=;wi cketslow=;wicketshigh=;dismissalslow=;dismissalshi gh=;caughtlow=;caughthigh=;caughttype=0;stumpedlow =;stumpedhigh=;csearch=;submit=1;.cgifields=viewty pe) Ashrafool actually had a lower Test average during pre-DW era. I am not a DW fan either, but blaming him for Ash's inconsistency sounds ridiculous.

kalpurush
August 30, 2006, 12:29 PM
Hmm... quite a thread by pagol-chagol. :)

Hei man... this is turning out to be one of those 'kan niye gelo chil-e' threads... probably due to lots of misinterpretations of a 2nd hand commentary(by p-c) of the interview. So I guess it's upto pagol-chagol again to set the tone of the thread back on track..

However, just my opinions on the matter:

1) Bulbul is a matured cricket brain and he surely won't go as far as making disrespecting comments against Dav.

2) No coach in the world is flawless.. and if anyone has the right to do some constructive criticism on coaching... it has to be from the senior and prominent retired national team players of the country. Bulbul surely has earned that place in our cricket. And ofcourse... criticizing any negative aspect of any coach is not a sin, rather it can be productive as well.

I am not going to make any more comments on the other points ... because I did not really watch the interview and so I don't know exactly what was the mood or tone of the whole discussion.

Good points!:lol:

kalpurush
August 30, 2006, 12:31 PM
We are commenting on this whole issue without even knowing what exactly he said against Dav or for Golla.

Pagol-chagol er pallay porle emon-e hoy!:D

ialbd
August 30, 2006, 01:40 PM
hehe... seems like an interesting interview. Hard to accept Bulbul being so outspoken, I thought he is just the opposite.
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pagol-chagol
August 30, 2006, 03:15 PM
Since no one else has confirmed anything about the interview or its points so far, I conclude that this interview never took place and I must have dreamt it up. It was like 1 am, you know. Don't ask me what I was on. (unless you want to buy)

Ubiquitous
August 30, 2006, 03:31 PM
Well, I did see Bulbul on tv today, and he was talking.. so I guess it was an interview? Only I was flipping channels and something more interesting was on somewhere else so he just got 5 secs of my attention before the channel changed...

pagol-chagol
August 30, 2006, 03:38 PM
I am surprized how could an ex-captain like Bulbul show little respect to our national coach! And he was on TV!! Respect is a mutual thing. If he wants to get it then he should show it to others too. Actually bulbul didn't disrespect Whatmore. The anchor was very critical of Whatmore and Bulbul was giving him approving smiles every time he was critical of Whatmore. Those can't be discounted away as polite smile. Definitely approving smile. The anchor's job is to be critical but, he had a chip in his shoulder because he was ignoring Whatmore's good parts. By the by, all ex-captains can show their disrespect to all coaches. There is no protocol to stop that. They have the right to be critical. Bulbul brought up many constructive points but, it was obvious that he thinks its time for a change. Many of BC users agree on that as well.

pagol-chagol
August 30, 2006, 03:41 PM
on what tv? which show? when was it? who was the host? why u were sleepy at 1am? why not sleep by then? where r u located? dhaka? It was 1 am US east coast time. 90% sure its Channel-I. 10% chance NTV. Can't remember. Why not sleepy? I kicked out my 3rd wife for asking me questions like that.

pagol-chagol
August 30, 2006, 03:44 PM
bc' tey Bulbul'er ar kono creditability thakbey na just for one comment.

"Bulbul loves Golla and Moni." Bulbul clearly stated that he thinks very highly of Golla, his experience is invaluable for BD.

pagol-chagol
August 30, 2006, 03:50 PM
Dav got communication gap with the team? Why no one raised the question in his early moments of Bd capter?

This was a big issue in the interview. The anchor basically said Dav has no business in BD if he can't communicate with his players. Both Bulbul and him were saying why wasn't this raised before the africa tour. Manjurul was very very diplomatic throughout and didn't say one odd words. Only once he let his guards down when he had a big smile when one caller insisted on including Alok Kapali in the XI. The anchor loves Kapali too. Bulbul seemed neutral on that.

pagol-chagol
August 30, 2006, 03:55 PM
Ok I got the candidate of the media. they want Bulbul to replace Dave. I hv no problem on tht.
I did not saw what comment he made on Golla. But any comment on Golla's importance to team who force me ask his cricketing judgement? and beating WI in champions trophy. if he spoke as a supporter, he could dream. But as a former captain, I would again ask his judgement. Today, if there is poll, whether we beat WI in Champions trophy, it would a close contest. even fans do not have faith on the team. It does not only include SS or fwullah, but lots of fan who like to see glass half full.
Ash need Bangali psycologist to perform. I dont think so. He just need good old kick in the back.
Bulbul does not like DW. Does it matter? DW is not there to win popularity contest. Pre-DW Ash may have an avg of 28 but we have only one win againest established nation which is even clouded by match fixing allegation. Why he did not talk about HB's performance or Rafiq? Bulbul said its possible that we could beat WI in this climate and he is optimistic. There is nothing unfair about that. Same goes with Bangali psychologist. He could be wrong but you see it has its points.

pagol-chagol
August 30, 2006, 03:58 PM
Did Bulbul really claim that ? That's weird, because according to statsguru (http://statserver.cricket.org/guru?sdb=player;playerid=24667;class=testplayer;fi lter=advanced;team=0;opposition=0;notopposition=0; homeaway=0;continent=0;country=0;notcountry=0;grou ndid=0;season=0;startdefault=2001-09-06;start=2001-09-06;enddefault=2006-04-20;end=2003-05-20;tourneyid=0;finals=0;daynight=0;toss=0;schedule ddays=0;scheduledovers=0;innings=0;followon=0;resu lt=0;seriesresult=0;captain=0;keeper=0;dnp=0;recen t=;viewtype=bat_list;runslow=;runshigh=;batpositio n=0;dismissal=0;bowposition=0;ballslow=;ballshigh= ;bpof=0;overslow=;overshigh=;conclow=;conchigh=;wi cketslow=;wicketshigh=;dismissalslow=;dismissalshi gh=;caughtlow=;caughthigh=;caughttype=0;stumpedlow =;stumpedhigh=;csearch=;submit=1;.cgifields=viewty pe) Ashrafool actually had a lower Test average during pre-DW era. I am not a DW fan either, but blaming him for Ash's inconsistency sounds ridiculous. Bulbul didn't say that. The anchor did. Thanks for varifying. I was going to do that myself.

pagol-chagol
August 30, 2006, 04:04 PM
hehe... seems like an interesting interview. Hard to accept Bulbul being so outspoken, I thought he is just the opposite. Yes, bubul has become a very good speaker. I remember him minmina like Bashar. He wasn't mean or anything. He was intelligent and raised some very good points. The Golla love was the big bummer. He also brought up Moni when Monjurul said that Nannu, Akram,Bulbul served BD long time and ..... as if Moni were in the same league as this trio. You could read Bulbul by his body language everytime the anchor made a comment. Monjurul was too careful though.

Tigers_eye
August 30, 2006, 04:08 PM
pagol-chagol pura pagol hoiye gasey. Pabna onek dur. Eikhaney (north america) kono nam kora paglagarod asey?

pagol-chagol
August 30, 2006, 04:09 PM
hehe... seems like an interesting interview. Hard to accept Bulbul being so outspoken, I thought he is just the opposite. Yes. Very interesting. Bulbul wasn't as outspoken but, it was good to know where he stands. A lot of good points raised. The anchor by being so Awami-BNP type fanatic anti whatmore put some spotlight on Bulbul. Ow, now I know why he looked so fair.

pagol-chagol
August 30, 2006, 04:15 PM
Hmm... quite a thread by pagol-chagol. :)

Hei man... this is turning out to be one of those 'kan niye gelo chil-e' threads... probably due to lots of misinterpretations of a 2nd hand commentary(by p-c) of the interview. So I guess it's upto pagol-chagol again to set the tone of the thread back on track..

However, just my opinions on the matter:

Thanks. Is that enough. Let me know if you need more. I need to go back to my asylum.

akabir77
August 31, 2006, 08:27 AM
man i want to see the interview now...

Rabz
August 31, 2006, 09:17 AM
So, I see a lot of variables for us to beat the West Indies, and lets not forget the fact that the players of the WI team will also have to play badly on the given day.

Why would they hv to play badly??
Why cant we play good to win a match "on a given day"
or atleast for your sake,
"play better cricket", not necessary meaning WI playing bad.

I dont want WI to loose, i want us to WIN. there is a huge difference in that acheivement.

If you want to make it even more clear, when we beat Australia last year June, they didnt play bad cricket to loose to us. We simply played better that given day to win the game. we bowled better, fieled better and batted better (along with a century maker) when compared between two teams. and thats why its ONE DAY game, not a test match.

seems like u r not ready to give the due credit to our players incase they do achieve that milestone.

from where i see, the glass is indeed half full.

Thank You.

Tokyobreeze
August 31, 2006, 09:31 AM
Pagol_chagol Bhai...

খালি তো বুলবুল এর কথা লিখলেন । মনজুরুল কি কিছুই বলে নাই? একসময় যখন মনজুরুল বল করতো (এবং মিঃ বেলিমকে দেশের সেরা ওপেনার ভাবা হতো (আল্লাহ মাফ করুক)), তখন তো সে বল করার সময়ও বাকা হাসি দিতো । ইন্টারভিউ-এর পুরা টাইমও কি ওই বাকা হাসি দিয়ে কাটাইছে?

pagol-chagol
August 31, 2006, 11:35 AM
Pagol_chagol Bhai...

খালি তো বুলবুল এর কথা লিখলেন । মনজুরুল কি কিছুই বলে নাই? একসময় যখন মনজুরুল বল করতো (এবং মিঃ বেলিমকে দেশের সেরা ওপেনার ভাবা হতো (আল্লাহ মাফ করুক)), তখন তো সে বল করার সময়ও বাকা হাসি দিতো । ইন্টারভিউ-এর পুরা টাইমও কি ওই বাকা হাসি দিয়ে কাটাইছে? Monjurul had a small smile on his face the whole time but he was able to cover what he really thinks. He made sure he wasn't giving any body language supporting any of the anchor's comments. Only during that Alok comment his baka hashi became really big. After watching this interview I am convinced that this guy is really really sharp. He always looked sort of dumb on the cricket ground. What do I know?

kalpurush
August 31, 2006, 12:42 PM
Actually bulbul didn't disrespect Whatmore. The anchor was very critical of Whatmore and Bulbul was giving him approving smiles every time he was critical of Whatmore. Those can't be discounted away as polite smile. Definitely approving smile. The anchor's job is to be critical but, he had a chip in his shoulder because he was ignoring Whatmore's good parts. By the by, all ex-captains can show their disrespect to all coaches. There is no protocol to stop that. They have the right to be critical. Bulbul brought up many constructive points but, it was obvious that he thinks its time for a change. Many of BC users agree on that as well.

For sure anybody has the right to be critical. I just hope it should be logical, justifiable. Any sensible and constructive criticism is good for our cricket. :D

SMHasan
September 1, 2006, 09:34 PM
pagol-chagol pura pagol hoiye gasey. Pabna onek dur. Eikhaney (north america) kono nam kora paglagarod asey?
[বাংলা]আরাকানসাস পাগলা গারদ আছে না? এত ভয় কিসের?[/বাংলা]

bapzmania
September 1, 2006, 09:57 PM
I dont want WI to loose, i want us to WIN. there is a huge difference in that acheivement.
100% agree with u........

Fazal
September 5, 2006, 05:31 PM
pagol-chagol pura pagol hoiye gasey. Pabna onek dur. Eikhaney (north america) kono nam kora paglagarod asey?

Ache Ache.... Virginia-te 'Dominion Hospital' Ache... eta shudhu matro Pagol ar Chagol-der Jonno. Bangali pogolera 10% discount pai... ar ter uporey jodi cricket premik hoi ta-hole additional 5% discount pai.

al Furqaan
September 5, 2006, 06:38 PM
fazal bhai...does ur sig mean an aknowledgement of sakib's intelligent and correct quote...or is it just a space filler?

Fazal
September 5, 2006, 07:54 PM
fazal bhai...does ur sig mean an aknowledgement of sakib's intelligent and correct quote...or is it just a space filler?

an aknowledgement of sakib's intelligent and correct quote

rudro
September 5, 2006, 09:47 PM
Ache Ache.... Virginia-te 'Dominion Hospital' Ache... eta shudhu matro Pagol ar Chagol-der Jonno. Bangali pogolera 10% discount pai... ar ter uporey jodi cricket premik hoi ta-hole additional 5% discount pai.
I wonder how you figured it out.....

mhferdaus
September 5, 2006, 10:27 PM
I heard the biggest pagla garod is in india, but not sure if it is only a myth ...

kalpurush
September 5, 2006, 11:21 PM
I wonder how you figured it out.....

er-e nam aabhiggata!:D

pagol-chagol
September 6, 2006, 10:40 PM
Hey - I have yet to see any comment on that interview. Did it really take place or did I drink too many worms?

Rabz
September 7, 2006, 03:30 AM
I heard the biggest pagla garod is in india, but not sure if it is only a myth ...

well, do you need a special "garod" for paglas in india? [...edited..]

and your myth be true, who knows, after all it has to be in either[...edited..] isnt it?

SMHasan
September 7, 2006, 11:07 AM
Hey - I have yet to see any comment on that interview. Did it really take place or did I drink too many worms?

[বাংলা]কাকড়া ?[/বাংলা]

nsd3
September 8, 2006, 06:12 PM
There could be personal aspirations by BD ex cricketers to grab Dav's position one day. Bulbul with an overseas qualification on coaching (I guess) may be ahead of others now from that perspective. This could be his launching pad to become highly coveted BD coach in the near future.

Pointing out communication gaps of a foreign coach - it's easy to establish one' weak sides. However, I don't think this is a positive/constructive approach by anyone who wants to develop the team in the long run. This may backfire soon (who knows Ashraful may skip playing and try for the job of a coach and start talking same thing about Bublbul if Bulbul eliminates Dav one day)....... Ok I'll stop here. It was just a story.....long time no cricket....getting bored.

Flip Master Mick
September 9, 2006, 05:20 AM
bulbul showing his true colors...

pagol-chagol
September 9, 2006, 01:22 PM
There could be personal aspirations by BD ex cricketers to grab Dav's position one day. Bulbul with an overseas qualification on coaching (I guess) may be ahead of others now from that perspective. This could be his launching pad to become highly coveted BD coach in the near future.

Pointing out communication gaps of a foreign coach - it's easy to establish one' weak sides. However, I don't think this is a positive/constructive approach by anyone who wants to develop the team in the long run. This may backfire soon (who knows Ashraful may skip playing and try for the job of a coach and start talking same thing about Bublbul if Bulbul eliminates Dav one day)....... Ok I'll stop here. It was just a story.....long time no cricket....getting bored.

Looks to me that Bulbul isn't in the best of terms with the current gods of BD cricket. There needs to be a palace coup before Bulbul even has a miniscule shot. Its obvious to most people what his goal is. Good for him.

TheWatcher
September 12, 2006, 02:25 PM
I am wondering if Bulbul had his own communication problem when he was coaching NSW University team. Otherwise, why in the earth he had wasted the opportunity to work with Geoff Lawson and Michael Slater :confused:

Fazal
September 13, 2006, 03:47 PM
Here comes Aminul the coach
Staff Correspondent
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Former national captain Aminul Islam will take on a new role in Bangladesh’s domestic cricket after he agreed to coach Acme Laboratories in next month’s Corporate Cricket League.

Aminul, who for a decade was a popular player starting way back in the late 80s, did not coach any local team.
Having obtained his coaching certificate from Australia and also tasted a practical experience coaching the University of New South Wales last season, he said was keen on sharing his experience after returning home to settle.
‘I was looking for an opportunity to work here and now Acme has provided me that. I am very happy to have been contracted by them,’ said Bangladesh first Test century-maker on Wednesday.
Amniul did not even rule out the prospect of being a player-coach for Acme in October 1 league. [newAgeBD]

Tigers_eye
September 13, 2006, 04:00 PM
We need Aminul back in the test team :)

being a player/coach is the first step. lol. Just kidding! guys take it easy.

nsd3
September 13, 2006, 04:02 PM
Becoming an asst. coach for the national team would need Bulbul to eliminiate Fahim/Ratan/Salahuddin who had been working closely with different foreign coaches and BCB. Let's see how it goes.

SMHasan
September 13, 2006, 09:12 PM
Becoming an asst. coach for the national team would need Bulbul to eliminiate Fahim/Ratan/Salahuddin who had been working closely with different foreign coaches and BCB. Let's see how it goes.

That will be tough.

nsd3
September 13, 2006, 09:33 PM
It's good to see Bulbul started straight away as a coach at a club level (Acme). It shows that he wanted to do it in the country rather than spending time away overseas and first thing in the season he just started it on his return. So he gets good points on determination and planning. Now what is left to see is how he implements his learnings and gets results in his new coaching stint. Best of luck to him.

pagol-chagol
September 14, 2006, 09:07 AM
Becoming an asst. coach for the national team would need Bulbul to eliminiate Fahim/Ratan/Salahuddin who had been working closely with different foreign coaches and BCB. Let's see how it goes. Unfortunately, it doesn't depend on how good a coach Bulbul is, it depends on what types of connection he has and how close he is to the decision makers. Burning bridges after you pass them comes back to hunt you too often.