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cricman
September 2, 2006, 02:11 PM
Javed yes, Javed no?
Bishwajit Roy

When the national selectors sit in a day or two to pick the final squad for next month's International Cricket Council (ICC) Champions Trophy, the fate of veteran opener Javed Omar would be the main agenda in an otherwise customary discussion.There were strong opinions among the members of the team think-tank that the time had come to take a courageous decision about the opener who has been in and out of the one-day side for a long time.

It was learnt that the Faruque Ahmed-led selection panel including coach Dav Whatmore and captain Habibul Bashar are seriously considering to give Javed a message about his one-day fate and try a new opening pair in the ICC's second biggest one-day tournament in India.

In the five-day game, Javed's atypical ability to occupy the crease still might be considered as a quality but many believe that it is now very costly for the one-day side when Bangladesh loves to peer the slogan in the shorter-version that 'we go for win in the one-day game'.

Left-hander Shahriar Nafees, who was recently appointed vice-captain of the team for the October-November competition, apparently seemed to have settled in the opening slot through his impressive batting in the last one year but needs a real partner to not only solve the opening problem but also avoid the repeated top-order failure.

It was time and again proved that Javed's, who so far has played 53 ODIs over eleven years, uncharacteristic 'cut and chop' shot is not good enough to build up or carry an innings in the abridged version and the selectors' cut-throat approach towards him also gave the indication that they were also undecided about his position.

After some poor performances in the first three matches in Zimbabwe Javed, where he scored 8, 10 and 6 respectively, was dropped for the remaining games and was finally excluded from the Kenya leg of the African tour.

Now the inclusion of young Mehrab Hossain in the 18-member preliminary squad for the Champions Trophy made many believed that the selectors were ready to go one step forward to inject new blood in this position.

The chief selector admitted they are in for quite an intense discussion on the topic when they meet within two days to decide the final 14 before the ICC deadline.

"When we included a young guy in the preliminary squad as an opener then understandably it would be an issue that we must discuss intensively. We can't write off anybody but what I want to say is that the next World Cup is very much on our mind," said Faruque without elaborating.

When asked whether they still needed a dour start that Javed had usually provided for the team, the former national skipper and a dashing batsman came up with a diplomatic explanation.

"You know that the top-order batting is a real headache for our team and we believe that once we get a consistent opening pair the problem would be half solved. There is no problem if any opener plays cautiously because it is very important to give the team a platform to build on. But it is worthless if you play cautiously and get out after making 25 or something like that," he said.

"We tried different combinations in the opening slot but unfortunately nothing has come out of it. If we want to find the perfect one before the World Cup, we should try it as early as possible," he added.
It was learned that most of the members were determined to close the Javed chapter in the one-day game although there was a different opinion who believed that "there is still lack of competent challengers right at the moment and that's why it would be suicidal to say the long-serving opener goodbye".

But the reality is that the team will never find a useful combination if the selectors stick to their old policy of 'inclusion and exclusion' which will only prolong the agony for a batsman like Javed.

Since Bangladesh's entrance in the international stage in 1986 there was a time when 'a respectable defeat' would have been an achievement, but this is not the case these days. You just can't sit back and say 'we have to play positive'; it is time to win.

http://www.thedailystar.net/2006/09/03/d60903040122.htm

Javed Noooooooooooooooooo

Fazal
September 2, 2006, 02:41 PM
Looks like Javed is still a "May be", atleast in the selector's mind. Thats why he is still not out of the equation yet.

Orpheus
September 2, 2006, 02:55 PM
I wonder where he got the idea for his Title :p

cricket_pagol
September 2, 2006, 05:23 PM
Javed Noooooo!!!!

Sovik
September 2, 2006, 06:28 PM
no no no no

Zobair
September 2, 2006, 06:37 PM
No.

baisab
September 2, 2006, 07:39 PM
Nah

Carte Blanche
September 2, 2006, 07:48 PM
Nay.
Naysayers unite.

SMHasan
September 2, 2006, 08:35 PM
When this stupid guy bats then it seems that his elbows dont move freely and it looks disgusting to me. Say no to JO. It's a bit harsh, we respect him for serving BD cricket and no longer we need you. Sorry Javed.

khankm
September 2, 2006, 11:33 PM
Yesssssssssss

fuzzy
September 3, 2006, 01:28 AM
no javed neither rajin.
ash should opening and da youngstar doing well both of them very good players.
saqib is remains me hussey. and farhad of maharuf dey r both goog.

fuzzy
September 3, 2006, 01:33 AM
can rajin play like martyn don't think so. bcose he is very defensive. can't play big shot.
he was tryin so in last 1dyer vs aus, i had 2 giv his wkt away bcose he even play da on the gap. and javed no. ash should be bcose he is our player.

kalpurush
September 3, 2006, 01:45 AM
JO - Yes, Yes, Yes for...............Test( for year or two)!:D

Spitfire_x86
September 3, 2006, 02:10 AM
JO - Yes, Yes, Yes for...............Test( for year or two)!:D
Only if you want to gift the opposition a gurranted early wicket for next one year or two :)

Mr-Cricket
September 3, 2006, 03:43 AM
Javed Gooooo (away)!

nasifkhan
September 3, 2006, 04:12 AM
Javed Javed Javed..........

cricket_dorshok
September 3, 2006, 05:05 AM
NOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

bapzmania
September 3, 2006, 08:52 AM
plz don't do this to javed.......it will be the 3rd time that javed is not gonna selected for Wc....but my opinion "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

Sovik
September 3, 2006, 10:03 AM
javed does not deserve any chances, not even in tests

sadi
September 3, 2006, 11:36 AM
No. Atleast our selectors are thinking about it now, thats a start. Thank you Javed for your contribution. Lets move on.

layperson
September 3, 2006, 04:01 PM
"When asked whether they still needed a dour start that Javed had usually provided for the team, the former national skipper and a dashing batsman came up with a diplomatic explanation."

The reporter must have been high or something. He referred to Faruq as a dashing batsman !!!! He was arguably the slowest batsman to play cricket for bangladesh
and probably one of the worst. Dashing my foot !!!! This is one problem with media people in Bangladesh, they always refer to former players with flowery adjectives even when they are not true for that particular player. I have seen bengali commentators do the same when introducing former players like KHaled Mahmud and they were using adjectives that no players in Bd yet earned !!! Where is their objectivity one wonders.

SMHasan
September 3, 2006, 07:02 PM
"When asked whether they still needed a dour start that Javed had usually provided for the team, the former national skipper and a dashing batsman came up with a diplomatic explanation."

The reporter must have been high or something. He referred to Faruq as a dashing batsman !!!! He was arguably the slowest batsman to play cricket for bangladesh
and probably one of the worst. Dashing my foot !!!! This is one problem with media people in Bangladesh, they always refer to former players with flowery adjectives even when they are not true for that particular player. I have seen bengali commentators do the same when introducing former players like KHaled Mahmud and they were using adjectives that no players in Bd yet earned !!! Where is their objectivity one wonders.

I was also wondering what they have said about Faruque. I am not laughing at him but surely media people don't know how to pay respect to the cricketers!But at the same they need to write something so lets ignore them.

Rabz
September 3, 2006, 11:29 PM
It has to be a sure NO!
No way Javed in the ODI team.

Shehwar
September 4, 2006, 08:07 AM
Yes to JO!......JO all the way......from his No 1 FAN...

SMHasan
September 4, 2006, 09:31 AM
Yes to JO!......JO all the way......from his No 1 FAN...

What makes you a JO fan? Do you want him in the ODI team? If yes then you don't want progress of Bangladesh cricket. It is as simple as it is.

BD Tigers
September 4, 2006, 11:39 AM
I am JO fan but I also think his time from ODI is gone. Too bad for him that he cudnt play a single WC in his life time. But he still has something to give in tests tho.

Hatebreed
September 4, 2006, 12:29 PM
Not in ODIs no, for tests he could still prove to be useful.

al Furqaan
September 4, 2006, 06:39 PM
No. Atleast our selectors are thinking about it now, thats a start. Thank you Javed for your contribution. Lets move on.

best said...top post that!

when javed does leave, i will be sad. i was sad (i'm sure we all were deep down inside) when chacha left. but are we a better team? hell yeah.

thanks to all those who helped BD cricket, and JO and chacha (et al) all helped in major ways.

we just don't need JO or chacha anymore. its not their fault. they gave their best, and we have just outgrown them. we have evolved beyond what they can deliver. its a part of nature.

PoorFan
September 5, 2006, 12:45 AM
'Javed yes or Javed no' doesn't mean anything without ultimate 'result'... hope for the best though.

sensible
September 5, 2006, 01:16 PM
This is interesting......Some in BC talks/writes as if JO is the one and only reason for Bangladesh performing so poorly.

SMHasan
September 5, 2006, 01:47 PM
This is interesting......Some in BC talks/writes as if JO is the one and only reason for Bangladesh performing so poorly.

It is not the only one reason but it is one of the main reasons. We need a good batsman to be a part of the batting line up. There is no point of playing with 10 players as there are opportunity to take 11 players :)

Fazal
September 5, 2006, 04:33 PM
There is no point of playing with 10 players as there are opportunity to take 11 players :)

10 players? I thought we are playing with 9 players.

SMHasan
September 5, 2006, 08:31 PM
10 players? I thought we are playing with 9 players.

Well if u count our Kapali the monster.

Tokyobreeze
September 6, 2006, 12:19 AM
No
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iie/dame (No in Japanese)
Kabhi Nehi
প্রশ্নই আসেনা

If Javed is included again, selectors must be killed!

Rabz
September 6, 2006, 12:19 AM
This is interesting......Some in BC talks/writes as if JO is the one and only reason for Bangladesh performing so poorly.

I hope u dont mean Spitfire..do you ?:D
be careful mate...
next thing u know he will come with a new thread:

"Sensible: Yes or No?"

and im afraid he has got a much more bigger following than you at this point in BC.:D :D

Tokyobreeze
September 6, 2006, 12:33 AM
I don't want JO in tests either.I would rather play Rajin in his place in tests.Or Mehrab will get ready as a consistent opener in tests too in time.JO should be sent back to 4-day game of national league where he truely belongs(may be).

Sovik
September 6, 2006, 06:58 AM
This is interesting......Some in BC talks/writes as if JO is the one and only reason for Bangladesh performing so poorly.

not only reason but he had played major role in some batting collapse .

sensible
September 6, 2006, 08:42 AM
I hope u dont mean Spitfire..do you ?:D
be careful mate...
next thing u know he will come with a new thread:

"Sensible: Yes or No?"

and im afraid he has got a much more bigger following than you at this point in BC.:D :D

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D :D

By the way, Sydney, this is Duronto.

MarufH
September 6, 2006, 08:48 AM
Javed NO!

Reasons...

1. He has technique problem
2. He can't score fast
3. He can't bowl while Mehrab Jnr is going to be handy
4. He got some kind of attitude... He was happy to score 85* playing 50 ovrs. And saying we should be happy BD team occupied the crease for 50 Ovrs.
5. He can't score at all... he is totally out of form while Mehrab rockin'!!!

Rabz
September 6, 2006, 11:25 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D :D

By the way, Sydney, this is Duronto.

Oh ! Duranto Ghurni from Paltak?
Welcome to BC! oh! i see you already has 84 posts here, so id rather say, welcome back.Nice to see u again.

Hoping to see your more often here and on Paltak next time BD playing cricket.

sensible
September 6, 2006, 04:28 PM
I do come here off and on to read...Don't write all the time. SOme of the posts here ar really entertaining....like the threads for and against some cricketers. I enjoy reading posts telling me to have faith in Ash even though he fails us again and again and again and .......On the other hand, it fun to see how many of BC members are against JO.....Does anyone has a count of how many anti-JO threads were opened here untilnow? Mods may be of help here! This would be an interesting stat.

About the room, I sure will be there for the next series. Zim series I was watching (to some extent) on TV. That's why I wasn't in the room.

Flip Master Mick
September 9, 2006, 05:07 AM
Javed For Tests!