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Sovik
November 18, 2006, 08:23 AM
India lost first practice match and this series won't be easy for them

India One-Day Squad
October 30, 2006
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="4"><tbody><tr> <td>1.</td> <td> R Dravid (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/28114.html) (captain) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>2.</td> <td> AB Agarkar (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/26184.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>3.</td> <td> MS Dhoni (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/28081.html) (wicketkeeper) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>4.</td> <td> Harbhajan Singh (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/29264.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>5.</td> <td> W Jaffer (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/29646.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>6.</td> <td> M Kaif (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/29990.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>7.</td> <td> Z Khan (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/30102.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>8.</td> <td> A Kumble (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/30176.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>9.</td> <td> D Mongia (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/31034.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>10.</td> <td> MM Patel (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/32965.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>11.</td> <td> IK Pathan (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/32685.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>12.</td> <td> SK Raina (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/33335.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>13.</td> <td> V Sehwag (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/35263.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>14.</td> <td> S Sreesanth (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/34274.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>15.</td> <td> SR Tendulkar (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/35320.html) </td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2">http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/cms/www/spacer.gif</td></tr> <tr> <td>
</td> <td> KD Karthik (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/30045.html) (standby player)</td></tr></tbody></table>
South Africa ODI Squad
November 6, 2006
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="4"><tbody><tr> <td>1.</td> <td> GC Smith (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/47270.html) (captain) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>2.</td> <td> JH Kallis (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/45789.html) (vice-captain) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>3.</td> <td> LL Bosman (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/44098.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>4.</td> <td> MV Boucher (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/44111.html) (wicketkeeper) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>5.</td> <td> AB de Villiers (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/44936.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>6.</td> <td> HH Dippenaar (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/44708.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>7.</td> <td> HH Gibbs (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/45224.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>8.</td> <td> AJ Hall (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/45396.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>9.</td> <td> JM Kemp (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/45797.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>10.</td> <td> CK Langeveldt (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/45963.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>11.</td> <td> A Nel (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/46569.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>12.</td> <td> M Ntini (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/46592.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>13.</td> <td> RJ Peterson (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/46750.html) </td> </tr> <tr> <td>14.</td> <td> SM Pollock (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/player/46774.html)</td></tr></tbody></table>

Sovik
November 18, 2006, 08:25 AM
Fixtures
South Africa A v Indians - Benoni
16 Nov
1st ODI - Johannesburg
19 Nov
2nd ODI - Durban
22 Nov
3rd ODI - Cape Town
26 Nov
4th ODI - Port Elizabeth
29 Nov
Twenty/20 - Johannesburg
1 Dec
5th ODI - Centurion
3 Dec
South Africa A v Indians - Potchefstroom
7-10 Dec
1st Test - Johannesburg
15-19 Dec
2nd Test - Durban
26-30 Dec
3rd Test - Cape Town
2-6 Jan

Andy-Flower
November 22, 2006, 04:19 AM
The tour stated off badly mayne! they lost the tour match...Dale Steyne ripped the Indians down with a 5 wkt haul bowling at 152km/h, I think they should consider replacing Langevelt with Steyne for the ODI's.

South Africa is confident coz the Indians dont perform well in S.A...really looking forward to watching today's ODI hope it doesnt rain again;(

al Furqaan
November 22, 2006, 03:01 PM
157...i love it!!! shut those jokes down

Sovik
November 22, 2006, 04:02 PM
great performance by south africa

Baundule
November 22, 2006, 04:48 PM
It was one of the sweetest defeat I have ever seen.
Those jokes should be humiliated and I wonder if it is time to question about India's one day status ;)

israr
November 23, 2006, 06:11 AM
This was expected.

Xavier
November 23, 2006, 08:31 AM
looks like India really have trouble in the one day game... with only four months to the world cup this is good news for Bangladesh!

Protic
November 23, 2006, 09:06 AM
LOL .. India got pWn3d !
Thats sad for millions of indian fans.. but well good news for Bangladesh fans!!

Hatebreed
November 23, 2006, 09:31 AM
What a thrashing by SA! India's ODI performance has gone down the drain... hopefully it continues so we can beat them in the WC!

Tehsin
November 23, 2006, 10:51 AM
BIG MOUTH + FOOT = BCCI. Err, I meant looks like BCCI has a serious case of Foot IN Mouth decease. 91 all out, I hope the SA cricket board and the folks at the stadium are getting their money back from BCCI.

I wanted to add more to that but will refrain. Just use your imaginations.

(in response to: http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=17680)

Tintin
November 23, 2006, 12:55 PM
>> Thats sad for millions of indian fans..

Not exacly unexpected, though.

akabir77
November 23, 2006, 01:32 PM
hey they should be raligated to 2nd tier now. also bd should say if we play them we will loose all kinds of money. who would want to watch a team who gets out for 91. oops its not just bd that does that....When bd gets 91 its batsmen r bad but when other countries does that the bowlers r good and picties where un playable etc etc

CricFanBD
November 23, 2006, 07:11 PM
Did Chappell say anyrhing to South Africa's team like WI before?

What is the status of Indian Press now? ...Still a big mouth??

Rabz
November 23, 2006, 07:25 PM
Ha Ha Ha...
the news of India getting humiliated makes my day...
great going SA.

suck the life out of the indian players so that they have no strength left to play in the world cup next year and eventually loose every single match including a thrashing lose to BD by 210 runs.

afrina
November 25, 2006, 09:44 AM
Hi guys, may be i'm the newest member of this forum. I'm blind fan of SA obviously not excluding BD. After a long time SA got such sweet win. Good news for SA fans.

naheyan
November 25, 2006, 10:35 AM
Ha Ha Ha...
the news of India getting humiliated makes my day...
great going SA.

suck the life out of the indian players so that they have no strength left to play in the world cup next year and eventually loose every single match including a thrashing lose to BD by 210 runs.




WHY exactly 210 runs margin??????????

Sam
November 26, 2006, 03:32 AM
What a spell from Zaheer!
3-2-1-2

Sam
November 26, 2006, 04:38 AM
South Africa is in real trouble. They are reduced to 76/6 after 19.2 overs.

Hatebreed
November 26, 2006, 06:42 AM
Think again, 76-6 to 274-7! record 8th wicket partnership! Justin Kemp scored his maiden 100(89), Hall 56(47)! What a fightback, no wonder this team chased a world target to win. GO SA GO! :-D

Xavier
November 26, 2006, 06:44 AM
Can you believe it? South Africa end their innings on 274/7 with Kemp 100* off 89 balls (6x4 7x6) and Hall 56* off 47 balls. New world record for 8th wicket partnership!
(sorry hatebreed, didn't see your post!) btw check for them at the next world cup... SA are my favourites to win with Australia and WI!

Hatebreed
November 26, 2006, 06:45 AM
138 runs from 14.1 overs, RR: 9.74 (Hall 56, Kemp 75)!

Rabz
November 26, 2006, 07:18 AM
WHY exactly 210 runs margin??????????

Not quite sure to be honest..
just a figure came up to my mind while writing the post...
a margin that is very very humiliating i suppose...

Sam
November 26, 2006, 07:24 AM
An unbelievable innings from Kemp. This is called determination. From 0/2 to 274/7 is really great.

Sam
November 26, 2006, 07:26 AM
India also started tottering. Shehwag (good for nothing) gone for a :duck:. First blood by Pollock.

Miraz
November 26, 2006, 07:31 AM
Unbeleivable comeback by South Africa.

130 odd run in last 11 overs.

They'll wrap up the series quite easily.

Miraz
November 26, 2006, 10:10 AM
Dravid is fighting his lone battle.

India completely lost their way.

India 148/7 , required rate around 10

Omio
November 26, 2006, 11:06 AM
Big shame for india

Tehsin
November 26, 2006, 11:54 AM
Usually, when playing against an inferior team, BIG teams lose their concentration and resort to careless cricket. Hence, the 76 for 6. Plus, they were probably thinking about making the match a little more interesting so BCCI would watch it. After all, we don't want to make them lose any money, do we ? In the end, 106 run win was nothing compared to the 157 runs defeat in the second ODI. So obviously, the BCCI team has improved their game tremendously (in what was billed to be a BCCI team friendly wicket).

(I like the Indian team but I obviously have no support for the BCCI team. Realize this is pointless, but I will continue this until BCCI changes it's tune and HUMBLE up a little bit. This is what happens to folks who come out of abject poverty and start to see some money overnight. in truth though, BCB will probably go through this same phase once BD cricket starts making some big money. CHEERS.)

Hatebreed
November 26, 2006, 12:33 PM
Hehe well said Tehsin bhai, at least SA is capable of making a match interesting and worth your money.

What a disgrace for India!

Protic
November 26, 2006, 12:58 PM
Another defeat..
Well atleast Dhoni is back in form..i guess?
LOL ..2 months ago.. when BD was touring Zimbabwe..i saw in some Indian Music Channel (MTV) ..one of their VJ Cyrus < the dude's name.. He was hosting a show..he was in a convo with some college peeps..at some point he said ..whats the biggest joke now a days? He replied himself " Bangladesh tour of Zimbabwe "
He should think again.. the biggest joke recently is INDIA playing ONE DAY CRICKET.. Even Bangladesh - Zimbabwe ODI series are worth watching..exciting matches..unlike India's ODI matches..Thanks to SA that they actually pull out some juices out of these match.

al Furqaan
November 26, 2006, 03:27 PM
great stuff. couldnt make me happier...those sorry blue clad arrogants are getting less than they deserve, they should be thankful for that...

Rabz
November 27, 2006, 06:50 AM
Lolz...another Indian defeat...
SA is making my days..
now complete the series......

thebest
November 27, 2006, 07:15 AM
You could find the highlight of the match here (http://khanprod.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=361). Watch South African catching. Simply unbelieveable.

Baundule
November 27, 2006, 10:35 AM
Now Laxman is called up!!
He was dropped accusing of his age :)
This greedy-BCCI team has no hope.

Protic
November 27, 2006, 02:39 PM
LOL..soon Saurav Ganguly will be called as well..
Seen the matches live at Espn..SA was amazing ..in every department.

Sovik
November 28, 2006, 06:50 AM
good job india

Ak
November 28, 2006, 12:06 PM
Rumours have it that Ganguly is coming back for the Test Series

sislam2
November 28, 2006, 01:00 PM
Good chance for ganguly to be in the team.

Bad for bangladesh if ganguly plays in WC

sadi
November 28, 2006, 03:35 PM
Why bad? I thought its a good news for Bangladesh. ;)

shujan
November 28, 2006, 07:23 PM
India is struggling with the new players. This struggling India will be the new India within couple of years. Sachin, Dravid is probably going to retire after the world cup. What will be the strength of India then?

Navarene
November 29, 2006, 11:38 AM
Hi guys, I am giving you the link to watch free streaming of India-SA odi. All you need is to have sopcast downloaded:

www.lovelypk.com/media/sopcast/ (http://www.lovelypk.com/media/sopcast/)

view360
November 29, 2006, 12:43 PM
India should have played Bangladesh in home series instead of playing SA and get cought into humiliation. But soon India will find itself fighting with Zimbabwe for the last position in the ODi ranking(oops, I forgot about kenya !)

Sovik
November 29, 2006, 02:45 PM
another heart-warming performance by india

Yameen
November 29, 2006, 03:09 PM
South Africa bowlers too stong for so called world class batting line up as india gets THRASHED agen....

bad luck yaarrr, wat tu gunno do yaar?? needa more practice yaar na...

lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

al Furqaan
November 29, 2006, 03:15 PM
the price of arrogance is humiliation...

CricFanBD
November 29, 2006, 03:23 PM
Now India needs to think very much of playing a Full series against BD on BD's soil. Plz do it asap before too late...

Baundule
November 29, 2006, 04:28 PM
It's time to seriously think about India's ODI status.

Banglatiger84
November 30, 2006, 05:16 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/other_international/india/6158641.stm

Apparently Ganguly has been recalled to the Test Squad. Is it a sign he will be eased back to the one day team as well?

Will Dravid remain captain in the near future?....

Xavier
November 30, 2006, 03:13 PM
Now India are ranked 6th on ODI Championship as their rating is 107, behind SL 108. WI are rated 106 so if they will perform well in the ODI series to Pakistan they will be above India too.

Sovik
December 1, 2006, 11:28 AM
South Africa: 31/2 (5.1 Ovs)
G Smith
15(17)
J Kemp*
0(0)

India
Z Khan
3-0-12-1
A Agarkar*
0.1-0-0-1

Sovik
December 1, 2006, 11:59 AM
south africa in trouble

view360
December 1, 2006, 12:31 PM
Indian cricket Board is Like a Money wolf. They always measure everything from acommercial point of view. if the birth place of cricket England can invite BD to their soil, if the mighty Australia can play BD at home, what makes Indian cricket BoardI so arrogant that Bd can not play in India. They will be soon below BD in ODI ranking. Indian cricket BoardI is the most greedy cricket board in the history of cricket, I am forced to say this.

Ehsan
December 1, 2006, 01:50 PM
Some funny commentary during SA vs India 20/20 Match.


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width=603 bgColor=#eeeeee border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right width=30>13.6</TD><TD width="100%">Morkel to Karthik, no run, fullish outside off stump, little movement, and whats this? Karthik shoulders arms! Hasnt he got the memo? The Tests dont start till a little later this month </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Protic
December 1, 2006, 03:25 PM
South Africa - 126/9 ( 20 Overs )
India - 127/4 ( 19.5 Overs )
India won by 6 wkts.
Sehwag,Mongia played well..and Dinesh Karthik in the late overs.
Dhoni scored 0 of 3 balls.
I saw the full match..Live.. It was okey.. less entertaining than Bangladesh-Zimbabwe 20/20.
New record bytheway..the commentators said " Only Abdur Razzak from Bangladesh and Ajit Agarkar from India holds the record of bowling a maiden wicket in 20/20 history "
:) Im happy that India brought back Ganguly and Laxman for the test series..Let india loose..i just want Ganguly to score..more than Dravid.

BangladeshFan
December 1, 2006, 05:14 PM
not just the board the players are greedy as well. In indian film industry and indian cricket industry, actors never want to resign. amitav keep on acting as son, then father, grandfather and so on. similarly players like ganguli keep coming back. they simply dont want to resign gracefully as too much money is involved. money comes not just from cricket but commercials of chocolates, biscuits etc. it doesnt matter if gangu keeps making single digit scores, jaggu dada will keep saying gangu is a good batsman, indian cricket selectors will say gangu is an allrounder. it is complete pandemonium.

indian board is also suffering from "the greedy man and the golden goose" syndrome. it is no wonder they refuse series with Bd. Infact they will only play pakistan and australia in future because that is the box office hit. and there may actually be "fixed" series in future where they will demand pak and aus lose to them so that the indian public doesnt lose interest. soon enough the greedy board will kill its golden goose.

Sovik
December 1, 2006, 08:39 PM
the commentators said " Only Abdur Razzak from Bangladesh and Ajit Agarkar from India holds the record of bowling a maiden wicket in 20/20 history "


mohammad asif bowled the first maiden in 20/20 against england

afrina
December 2, 2006, 02:34 PM
SA should win the test series

Sovik
December 3, 2006, 04:05 AM
India: 26/2 (15.1 Ovs)
S Tendulkar*
4(40)
D Mongia
5(28)

view360
December 3, 2006, 07:59 AM
It is another humiliation for India in waiting today. Ind 200/9 and by now SA is 61/0 in 8 over !!

thebest
December 3, 2006, 09:58 AM
humilation completed. SA reach target in 31 overs with Pollock batting at 3
GO BCCI, Go for money

Tehsin
December 3, 2006, 10:35 AM
This was such a sweet tour. SA really has the cure for BCCIs foot in mouth decease. I say prevention is better then cure. Prevent opening your big mouth and there won't be a foot lodged inside. :)

This had to be one of the most one-sided tours in recent years (involving two 'mighty' teams - if you believe everything you read). I hope SA cricket board made some money, this must have hit their revenue's pretty hard.

shanil
December 3, 2006, 03:37 PM
josss hoise pura baaash khaise hahhahahahaaa

HereWeGo
December 3, 2006, 04:51 PM
Is there any link that might have the match highlight?

Hatebreed
December 3, 2006, 05:52 PM
India got what they deserved. SA should get their money back for playing such mediocre team.

CricFanBD
December 3, 2006, 06:05 PM
This was such a sweet tour. SA really has the cure for BCCIs foot in mouth decease. I say prevention is better then cure. Prevent opening your big mouth and there won't be a foot lodged inside. :)

This had to be one of the most one-sided tours in recent years (involving two 'mighty' teams - if you believe everything you read). I hope SA cricket board made some money, this must have hit their revenue's pretty hard.
Ha ha ha...very funny. I love your comments.:p

Rubu
December 3, 2006, 06:30 PM
<!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: navbar_link --> India's tour of South Africa - 2006

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India's tour of Reality - 2006

shanil
December 4, 2006, 11:08 AM
hhahahahaaa josss bolsen

view360
December 4, 2006, 11:56 AM
Now the test series starts and it may come out to be the same as the ODI as the Indian players have not yet recovered from their commercial hangover and the over kill of their publicity. It is also time for Tendulkar to retire with honour before he is thrown out with disgrace. As Imran Khan once said " It is better to retire when you are at the top.... "

Sovik
December 4, 2006, 05:13 PM
hoping for faster pitches for test matches

israr
December 4, 2006, 05:35 PM
What you sow, so shall you reap.

mhferdaus
December 5, 2006, 02:30 AM
What you sow, so shall you reap.

or dhormer call batashe nore ... :D

dhuru sai matha kharap hoylo naki amra dekhi hingshuk er moto kortasi, ora morbar gese jauk ga mogo ki? mora hetan re harnor chesta korum WC te ... :D ... INSHA-ALLAH joy amra paboy.

Kamini
December 8, 2006, 01:48 AM
When an Elephant falls in the mud, even the mosquitos laugh!

Look at yourselves before opening big mouth.

thebest
December 8, 2006, 02:31 AM
sister, so when India was elephant? I have to remember.

afrina
December 8, 2006, 05:14 AM
SA r strugelling in test now.

Imteaz
December 11, 2006, 02:41 AM
One Problem is, When Inidia Perform Well in Their Home Soil, They always Become Over Confident. Sorry to Say that None of Their Bowlers Can Perform Well in Foreign Soil. Specially Their Spinners who Always Become Unplayable in Home Soil, Shift to an Ordinary one in Foreign Soil. Sometimes One or Two Bowlers Perform Well in Outside Subcontinent but It is not Consistant.

Their Fast Bowlers are also Not At All Standard. One of The Major Reason is The Poor Slip Squad of India. A Fast Bowler must Need a Good Slip Squad. Example is Australia and South Africa. Pakistani Bowler are Natural Talent. They Get Most of Their Wicket with Straight Ball. They do not Have to Rely on Their Fielders. But Indian Fast Bowlers are Ordinary. They Definitely Need Good Slip Fielders. For This When Indian Spinners Failed to Prform in a Fast Wicket, Their Quick Bowlers cannot Become The Replacement as a Strike Bowler or Match Winning Bowler.

When Inidian Batsman Get an Outstanding Welcome in their Home Soil They Become Over Confident. It is Funny to Say but, Those Batsman Who Started Their Career Against a Difficult Oponant in a Difficult Condition have Become World Class. For Instance
1. Sachin Tendulkar: (1989) Debut in Pakistan, Against Pakistani Pace Quarter Imran, Waqar, Wasim and Aaquib, More over Abdul Kadir.
2. Rahul Dravid: (1996) Difficult English Condition.
3. Saurav Ganguly: One Day (1992) Against Australia in Australia and Test (1996) against England in Difficult English Condition.
4. Yuvraj Sing: (1999) against Australia in Kenya.
5. Berendar Shewag: (2002) Against South Africa in Saouth Africa.

Well, This Can be Taken as a Joke or Rubbish. Place and Oponent for Starting the Career Cannot Reflect a Batsman Class or Talent. But Unfortunately Those Examples are Fact.

Indian Former Cricketers, Media and Their Crowd also Played a Vital Role. When India Perform Well in Subcontinent, It seems that They Have Become World Champion, According to Their Media, Fromar Cricketer and Supporters. But When They Perform Poor in Outside Then They Start to Criticize Without Searching The Background.

I am Nobody but as a Cricket Fan, I Can Recomend Something.

1. Getting 10 Wickets in a Turning Wicket Cannot Show that a Spinner is Good. Shane Warne or Muralitharan do not need any helpfull Wicket. India has to Produce some Spinners who can Perform Anywhere in the World.
2. Untill & Unless You can Produce a Over Talented Fast Bowler as a Striker, You must Have to Rely on Your Fielders. Indian Captain Must have The Knowledge, How to Use a Fast Bowler or What Type of Feilding You Need.
3. Don't Rely on 2-3 Batsman. A Cricket team Consist of at least 6 Batsman. And India Must have to Produce Those Batsman Who Can Perform in Any Kind of Condition.
4. Be Professional. Example: When Australia Come to India, They Know The Condition and They Know How to Adapt with That Condition. Hansie Cronje Used the Same Technique in 2000, when They won the Test Series 2-0 in India against India. (But They lost ODI 3-2).

In This Series India Has to Perform Something Extra Ordinary, Otherwise They will be on The Loosing Side.

Have a Nice Time.:)

BangladeshFan
December 11, 2006, 04:27 PM
your number 4 suggestion hit the nail on the head. being professional they(australia or SA) prepare well before coming to subcontinent. but when india goes to a bouncy wicket same saga continues. their batsman cant cope with the bounce. why dont they practice on bouncy wickets contiuously for 1-2 months before coming to the tour? i guess their players are more busy with commercials than bringing success for the team and their million dollar coach chappel doesnt have a clue!

HereWeGo
December 11, 2006, 05:17 PM
When an Elephant falls in the mud, even the mosquitos laugh!

Look at yourselves before opening big mouth.

Ur nick suggest that u r indian ( forgive me if i am wrong). I can understand u getting angry with some of the comments. The real problem lies with the fact that India was never interested to host us because of financial reasons, even they defied ICC's FTP. So naturally some of the members are a bit frustated. This thread is one way to relieve those frustation.

al Furqaan
December 11, 2006, 10:15 PM
When an Elephant falls in the mud, even the mosquitos laugh!

Look at yourselves before opening big mouth.

since when were we an elephent, and when did we fall? we haven't been given a chance to fall.

trust me, India aren't getting a quarter of the thrashing they deserve! but they'll get it one day, oh boy will they get it.

and yes, most of the posters are thoroughly enjoying this moment. and thats just drop compared to what we're owed, lol.

Tintin
December 12, 2006, 01:15 AM
Well, This Can be Taken as a Joke or Rubbish. Place and Oponent for Starting the Career Cannot Reflect a Batsman Class or Talent. But Unfortunately Those Examples are Fact.

Well, you cannot say that good batsmen start their career overseas, but if a bad batsman start theirs abroad, chances are that it won't last much after that series.

Imteaz
December 12, 2006, 02:01 AM
Well, you cannot say that good batsmen start their career overseas, but if a bad batsman start theirs abroad, chances are that it won't last much after that series.

You are True. But I Mean to Say; May be it is a Fact that Most of the Successfull Indian Batsmen Started Their Career in a Difficult Condition, But It Doesn't mean Everyone Who Started Career in a Difficult Condition are Good. Hope You Got My Perception.:)

Have a Nice Time.

afrina
December 12, 2006, 01:24 PM
If a player start his career in difficult condition then two things can be happen.

1) he may feel very tensed coz he is new and the condition is very much unfavourable and there is a grate chance that he will fail.

2) or he may concentrate very hardly make the situation favourable for him and become successfull.

So I think all success depends on the ablity of that player, how much mental presure he can take. Some Indian players may achive success, I think which is an extraordinary show. Generally a new (and also young) players don't have that kind of standred mental strength like a mature player, and he collapsed.

BangladeshFan
December 12, 2006, 04:09 PM
You are True. But I Mean to Say; May be it is a Fact that Most of the Successfull Indian Batsmen Started Their Career in a Difficult Condition, But It Doesn't mean Everyone Who Started Career in a Difficult Condition are Good. Hope You Got My Perception.:)

Have a Nice Time.

i guess the reason is simple, if a batsman scores heavily in foreign condition his own and also the selectors confidence increase on him. even if he fails in home conditions those success always remain back on the mind. cricket is very much a mental game.

about indian batsman, tendu was already a star when he played against pakistan 89. there was talks on taking him to tour WI even before that. his tour was not really successful apart from that last test where he broke his nose and still played a match saving innings. ganguli actually toured australia in 92, but couldnt hold his place after that. there was a story that he refused to carry drinks as 12th man. i agree with you on dravid though. his debut tour was really hard in SA but he came out successful. that transformed him completely.

Imteaz
December 12, 2006, 10:06 PM
i agree with you on dravid though. his debut tour was really hard in SA but he came out successful. that transformed him completely.

Brother, Please Don't Mind but You Have got a Wrong Data. Dravid Got His Debut in England in 1996 on the Same Test Where Ganguly was also Debutant. It was the Second Test of India-England 1996 Series in England.

Sorry, Please Don't Mind.:)

Have a Nice Time.

afrina
December 13, 2006, 04:05 AM
cricket is very much a mental game.

his tour was not really successful apart from that last test where he broke his nose and still played a match saving innings.


Every game is very much mental one. Can u give me a name where u don't need mental strength. Even if u want to play LUDU then also u need some mental ablity to understand opositions steps.

If broken nose leads to a match saving inning then no one could beat Mark Boucher. In champions trophy 1998 he was bleeding but continue the game, grate mental strength.

thebest
December 13, 2006, 07:36 AM
It does not matter where the batsman debut to be succesful or not? or successful debut means succesful career. Don has a very poor debut (18 and 1) and promptly droped. Gooch and sayeed Anwar got pair in their debut. Praveen Amre is the last indian (before Saurav ) who got a century in his debut and that is also in South Africa. Honestly speaking how many of us know his name

Miraz
December 16, 2006, 07:12 AM
Ganguly made an impact in his comeback test innings. He held the lower order and remain unbeaten on 51.

Now, Sreesanth is in demolition mode and reduced SA to 57/7. He lready got 5/30 from his 9 over.

Sovik
December 16, 2006, 10:20 AM
19 wickets so far and still 21 overs to. one hell of a day.

Tintin
December 16, 2006, 11:27 AM
Scores the end of the second day :

India 249 and 146 for 5

South Africa Eighty four allout.

BangladeshFan
December 16, 2006, 12:02 PM
finally one good day for india. seems like south africa's all pace and bounce policy has backfired. nice to see sreesanth among wickets and laxman among runs. i think SA will bat far better 2nd time. India needs to get atleast 80-90 runs more.

Sovik
December 16, 2006, 05:38 PM
india is going to win this match.

Imteaz
December 17, 2006, 03:12 AM
I Feel So Sorry for SA. Congratulation to India, Specially, Srisantth. He Bowled Trimendously Well. What a Come Back by India!Also Congratulation to Saurav. he Proved His Ability.

Good Luck to Both South Africa and India. The Series will Be an Interesting One.

Sovik
December 18, 2006, 07:30 PM
south africa will come back strongly but india got the confidence. it will be an interesting series

al Furqaan
December 18, 2006, 09:02 PM
i expect this to be 2-1 to RSA...ntini and pollock are to be feared.

BangladeshFan
December 26, 2006, 09:55 AM
SA 257/8
3 wicket fell in quick succession. suddenly umpires thought light is too low even though the lights are on. well it has to be isnt it?

when nel sledges umpires remain silent, when sreesanth sledges umpires intervene, how wonderfully impartial!!

al Furqaan
December 28, 2006, 12:57 PM
SA up by 150 plus and 10 wickets in hand...i wanna see RSA take this series 2-1 after the 1st Test's dissappointments

orzoon
December 28, 2006, 04:45 PM
RSA sucks. India will win the series by 2-1. I always support Asian teams when they play with non-Asians,except one.

BangladeshFan
December 28, 2006, 08:06 PM
it is astonishing at the level of sledging which goes on. white guys keep sledging asian guys and our sweet little asians keep smiling back. what the hell, why dont they give them a mouthful back? do they have some birthly rights because of having white skin? cricket is after all a colonial sport!!

i remember an incident maybe in 96 when dravid hit donald for a 6 and donald came back with mouthful of trash and the poor dravid just kept looking on. it was not normal kind of sledging, donald stood in the middle of the pitch and kept barking for about 15 sec i guess. all of it happened before the umpire and there was not even a verbal warning. now i can find some justification of that famous "miandad about to hit lillee with the bat" incident. sigh........

AsifTheManRahman
December 29, 2006, 04:40 PM
it is astonishing at the level of sledging which goes on. white guys keep sledging asian guys and our sweet little asians keep smiling back. what the hell, why dont they give them a mouthful back?


maybe because language is a barrier. the players in the subcontinent are not really well equipped with the kind of wit and vocab needed to shut someone else's mouth. you can imagine what kind of a fool a brown guy would make of himself if he lost his temper and started to throw verbal abuses at the opponent, getting caught up in the moment and directly translating stuff from his own language.

anyways, this is how sreesanth replied to nel's bouncer and sledging:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEYzm-nHrw

pretty khet, i'd say. the background music makes it even khet-er. a good laugh, nevertheless. :)

AsifTheManRahman
December 29, 2006, 04:44 PM
this is what cricinfo had to say about the incident:



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Best: Pump up the volume
It's the second innings of the Johannesburg Test between South Africa and India. Andre Nel steams in to bowl his first ball at Sreesanth. He lets loose a bouncer and spouts his usual dose of verbal diarrhoea at Sreesanth who had hurried out of the way. We didn't have a clue to the scenes that would follow for Sreesanth's body language indicated nothing. Nel runs in to bowl his second ball. This time it isn't a bouncer, Sreesanth backs away again but flat-bats an astonishing six over long-off, an ungainly slog. His riposte doesn't end there for as he reaches the bowler's end he does something that is best viewed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEYzm-nHrw) and not described. I hope more batsmen give as good as they get from Nel.

Interestingly, this is what he had to say for his worst moment in 2006:

Worst: Robbed at Fatullah
Not many will remember that 2006 was also the year that Bangladesh nearly derailed the Australian juggernaut. And it wasn't just a sliver of a chance. Bangladesh piled up 427 in the first innings and then secured a lead of 158. At one stage during the run-chase, Australia needed 76 with four wickets in hand. They were close to suffering the most humiliating defeat in history. And that prospect of seeing Goliath felled by David's little brother was mouth-watering. For who doesn't love supporting the underdog? Beating Australia in a one-day at Cardiff was surreal enough, but a Test win would have been ... But Ricky Ponting played spoilsport to millions of hopefuls like myself and scored a matchwinning hundred under circumstances where the humiliation of defeat weighed more heavily than the task at hand. Glorious uncertainty of sport? Bah humbug.

cricman
December 29, 2006, 06:50 PM
I loved watching that! I Hope Ganguly and Tendulkar can do something special today and either save or win the test.

Sovik
December 30, 2006, 07:13 AM
indian tail enders are doing well to frustrate south africa

BangladeshFan
December 30, 2006, 11:59 AM
once again indian top order falls on its face and south africa square the series.

"when the going gets tough, the tough gets going". or in other way "when the going gets tough, the weak keeps falling".

Kabir
December 30, 2006, 12:48 PM
anyways, this is how sreesanth replied to nel's bouncer and sledging:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEYzm-nHrw

pretty khet, i'd say. the background music makes it even khet-er. a good laugh, nevertheless. :)

At the end of this video, he does a replay of that in Indian movie style...very khet, and completely illiterate type. Couldn't just use his mouth...so Asif is right. They can't usually get a verbal comeback!

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BangladeshFan
January 2, 2007, 01:34 PM
commendable performance by india on the 1st day of the 3rd test even though it seems like very good batting pitch. i never thought dravid is a captain who understands other players strengths or weaknesses like ganguly, but by keeping faith on jafar he showed his witty captaincy.

india should try to score as many as they can without thinking of run rate. Their first priority should be to kill of the chances of a south african win. drawing this series would be an achievement after the thrashing they got in one dayers. that would shut down big mouth g.smith for a while.

Sovik
January 3, 2007, 04:26 PM
good to see pollock getting some wickets

Tigers_eye
January 5, 2007, 10:47 AM
bash monay hoi hoiye galo India'r. 171 to win, 9 wickets in hand.

Mohiul
January 5, 2007, 11:16 AM
Sachin Tendulkar was ready to enter the field as no.4 batsman of the second indian innings but the fourth umpire didn't allow him to enter owing to a time constriant. Read the fact in the following link.

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/current/story/275283.html

Tigers_eye
January 5, 2007, 11:52 AM
Sachin Tendulkar was ready to enter the field as no.4 batsman of the second indian innings but the fourth umpire didn't allow him to enter owing to a time constriant. Read the fact in the following link.

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/current/story/275283.html
And your point is??

This is totally a no issue. The forth umpire was enforcing a cricket rule. As far as I know reading from the article, Sachin was off the field for some time in the previous day. That had allowed the 4th umpire to stop sachin from entering. Ganguly entered a minute late and timed out rule could have been enforced. However, it was Graham Smith's big heart he didn't. Other wise Ganguly would have been out for zero.

Tendu with the best stats again failed to live up hype when India needed him the most. Shewag should be rested for an entire season. Laxman scored a total of 14 in two innings. The tail was non existent.

Now SA 55 for 2. Still 156 needed to win.

BangladeshFan
January 5, 2007, 01:14 PM
i think smith was actually requested by the umpire not to enforce time out . i guess 4th umpire only informed tendulkar when he was about to come out. since they lost their openers very quickly no. 5 and 6 were not padded up. it took time for ganguli to pad up.i am not sure what a big heart smith is. he was crying "indian wicket" so far and that too in his own country. not to mention defensive bowling strategies with the left arm spinner. got a bouncy wicket in the 1st test and lost that one. what exactly does he want?

al Furqaan
January 5, 2007, 05:10 PM
And your point is??

This is totally a no issue. The forth umpire was enforcing a cricket rule. As far as I know reading from the article, Sachin was off the field for some time in the previous day. That had allowed the 4th umpire to stop sachin from entering. Ganguly entered a minute late and timed out rule could have been enforced. However, it was Graham Smith's big heart he didn't. Other wise Ganguly would have been out for zero.

Tendu with the best stats again failed to live up hype when India needed him the most. Shewag should be rested for an entire season. Laxman scored a total of 14 in two innings. The tail was non existent.

Now SA 55 for 2. Still 156 needed to win.

this is something which is severely overlooked: tendu's inability to make his team mates better or his inability to win big.

he's like karl malone: amazing player, killer stats, no rings.

he's like mike without the 6 championships.

he's been around for a while, 92 WC, 96 WC, 99 WC, 03 WC...couldn't win a single one, even with 96 being at home.

and he had great batsmen WITH him: dravid for 10 years, dada for 10 years, sehwag + laxman + yuvraj + kaif...not to mention bowlers like srinath, bhajji, kumble, and others.

seriously, if swapped any one of our players for tendulkar, we might very well be sitting on 0 wins against class opposition at this point. compare our 10 bests with tendulkar's 10 best teammates...kinda scary if you're a tendulkar fan.

Sovik
January 7, 2007, 06:59 AM
this is something which is severely overlooked: tendu's inability to make his team mates better or his inability to win big.


sachin is a great batsman but he hasn't been contributing much in recent years. he failed when his team needed him most. (test against pakistan where he scored a century but got out in a critical moment or he got out cheaply in 2003 WC final) but he has won many oneday match for india in the past. he has won the most ODI MOM. but i think he lost it. he used to be an attacking batsman and now he has become more defensive than dravid. in his last innings he was struggling and according to a reporter he was embarrassing (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/current/story/275387.html) . it could be his tennis elbow or something else but he needs to bounce back and bounce back soon.

Sovik
January 7, 2007, 07:01 AM
south africa has won the series. i am just happy to see india got thrashed and dada got some runs even though i don't like him

al Furqaan
January 7, 2007, 02:21 PM
sachin is a great batsman but he hasn't been contributing much in recent years. he failed when his team needed him most. (test against pakistan where he scored a century but got out in a critical moment or he got out cheaply in 2003 WC final) but he has won many oneday match for india in the past. he has won the most ODI MOM. but i think he lost it. he used to be an attacking batsman and now he has become more defensive than dravid. in his last innings he was struggling and according to a reporter he was embarrassing (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/current/story/275387.html) . it could be his tennis elbow or something else but he needs to bounce back and bounce back soon.

if you are comparing sachin to ashraful yes, sachin is a super-god. but if sachin is the best the game has seen (and i believe this from a purely cricketing view-point...lara, inzy, bradman ain't sheet compared to SRT), then compare him to the greats of other sports, i.e. the zidanes, the peles, the MJs, and Gretzkys...you will see that SRT is the one who is not a champion.

no one is denying hes the greatest physical player. but he didn't have the corresponding mental toughness around him which made teammates better. in other words, MJ for example not only made his NBA teammates better, he made his opponents weaker!

even our pagla mashrafee brings a correspondingly higher team morale which is greater than without him. in other words, his actul impact on the team and the game is greater than any physical impact he could bring. they have an invisible component that they bring.

just look at the list of players sachin played with, you will see that world cup champions played with far lesser talents. read my list above and then remember i left out fellas such as Azhar and Prasad.

india of the 90s and 2000s are the biggest underachievers in cricket. remember not too long ago they called themselves "the 2nd best team in the world". and unlike most indian moves, that was NOT arrogant at all. they are potentially the best batting team, and overall the 2nd best team. it just never materialized.

afrina
January 7, 2007, 02:56 PM
I'm happy that SA win the series. That's all 4 me.

Sovik
January 7, 2007, 06:58 PM
if you are comparing sachin to ashraful yes, sachin is a super-god. but if sachin is the best the game has seen (and i believe this from a purely cricketing view-point...lara, inzy, bradman ain't sheet compared to SRT), then compare him to the greats of other sports, i.e. the zidanes, the peles, the MJs, and Gretzkys...you will see that SRT is the one who is not a champion.

no one is denying hes the greatest physical player. but he didn't have the corresponding mental toughness around him which made teammates better. in other words, MJ for example not only made his NBA teammates better, he made his opponents weaker!

even our pagla mashrafee brings a correspondingly higher team morale which is greater than without him. in other words, his actul impact on the team and the game is greater than any physical impact he could bring. they have an invisible component that they bring.

just look at the list of players sachin played with, you will see that world cup champions played with far lesser talents. read my list above and then remember i left out fellas such as Azhar and Prasad.

india of the 90s and 2000s are the biggest underachievers in cricket. remember not too long ago they called themselves "the 2nd best team in the world". and unlike most indian moves, that was NOT arrogant at all. they are potentially the best batting team, and overall the 2nd best team. it just never materialized.

i wasn't comparing sachin with ash or i wasn't saying he is better/worse than anybody. what i meant to say is sachin is not what he used to be. he has become defensive and never takes on the bowlers. in 96-97 he always stepped up and took the attack to the opposition and he won many oneday matches those days but all have become faint memories now. sachin has better avarage than lara in both odis and tests but at the age of 37 lara still has the aggressiveness and the power to lift the team. but sachin completely failed to do so. if lara had the batsman like dravid, ganguly, yuvraj to back him up, he could have won many matches for west indies.

i enjoyed sachin's batting and still do but disappoints me more than ashraful does

Imteaz
January 8, 2007, 03:50 AM
After Everything, SA won The Series. Now I want to Say Something about Indian Cricket Team.

1. Winning a Single Test Match only Prove That You have Ability to Win but It Never Prove that You are Better Side.an
2. Winning a Single Test Match Cannot Prove That Your Players are World Class. No Doubt Indian Players are Skilled and Talented but They are not at all Professional.
3. Srisanth Bowled Outstandingly Well. Can Indian Think Tank Help Him to Survive? Irfan Pathan Has already been lost. I don’t Know Whether He can Come Back or Not but It is Completely Indian Think Tank Failure That India Lost a Bowler Like Irfan Pathan. They Try to Make him an All-rounder and The Result is……………..
4. Zaheer Khan has Come Back. Congratulation to Him but Dear India, Please be Professional Otherwise………………
5. India has to Pass a Long Way. It is Impossible for Them to win The World Cup with This Management and Cricketers. I don’t Know What is There Plan about WC but They Have to Work a Lot.
6. Indian Media and Board always Over React. By Winning the First Test They React such a Way That They win Test Series against Australia in Australian Soil. Please Don’t Over React.

Finally Congratulation to South Africa and Saurav Ganguly. Wish to Indian for Working Hard otherwise after one year You have to Fight to beat Bangladesh…………………God Knows You May Loose The Series Against Bangladesh in Coming Tour of Bangladesh on May 2007.

Have a Nice Time

Tehsin
January 8, 2007, 03:47 PM
After Everything, SA won The Series. Now I want to Say Something about Indian Cricket Team.

1. Winning a Single Test Match only Prove That You have Ability to Win but It Never Prove that You are Better Side.an
2. Winning a Single Test Match Cannot Prove That Your Players are World Class. No Doubt Indian Players are Skilled and Talented but They are not at all Professional.
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6. Indian Media and Board always Over React. By Winning the First Test They React such a Way That They win Test Series against Australia in Australian Soil. Please Don’t Over React.
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i think I shared this before. Growing up in BD, I had a few chances to read sports reports and sports book from India (mainly Calcutta). I was really young and I thought BD must be a really good soccer team cause according to the Indian reports and books, India was Top class in soccer and they had some really amazing 'world class' players. The reason I thought BD was good was we were neck in neck with India in soccer. Then the world cup roll around and I got to watch the best (and some not so best but team who had drubbed both BD and India on their way to the world cup qualifiers) and I got some sense knocked into me. Had I not made the connection and continued believing the media and the sports books, I'd be like the millions of folks who buy everything that this media outlets feed us on strong dosage.

This could have been 3-0 if SA had managed more runs in that very first innings. It was one of those one-off performances. But I do remember the hysteria that followed. After that, things got mighty quiet. Good thing is, now they can focus more on their own team rather then trying to beat down on the emarging sides.

Hatebreed
January 8, 2007, 04:48 PM
Let's hope India's demise continues, perhaps their deflated morale is what we need to beat them in the WC!

Kamini
January 14, 2007, 03:38 PM
Pakistan on their way to lose first test! LOL:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Tehsin
January 20, 2007, 01:43 AM
Kamini - Wrong thread. :)

You're looking for this: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=18434