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TheWatcher
December 5, 2006, 03:32 PM
OK, time for experiment.

First of all, Tushar should be let go, I have nothing against him, but there is no point hanging around the dressing room. Based on his recent form in NCL, Rana should be drafted in and should play the last two ODIs in place of Rafique (I have nothing against Rafique either, but, as I said, time for experiment).

Bashar should be benched for the last two ODIs, let Farhad Reza have some game, and, more importantly, let SN lead the team.

Mash and Rajib both deserve breaks. So, Mash should rest in the 4th ODI, Rajib in 5th ODI, and this way let Rasel play in the last two matches.

Omio
December 5, 2006, 03:34 PM
Yap, Tushar shud get a chance,Piolt,sumon, mashrafi needs a break.

billah
December 5, 2006, 03:36 PM
Well, Bashar should be permanently dropped from OD team. I would like to see at least one more young pacer. Rasel is very good, but I think we will need back up in that department, due to frequent injuries.

TheWatcher
December 5, 2006, 03:37 PM
Oh, I meant Tushar should be let go from the squad, go play in NCL or for the A-team. I don't see a place for him in the national team middle order at this point.

AsifTheManRahman
December 5, 2006, 03:38 PM
i agree with most of your changes, actually; now that we've won the series, we might as well experiment a bit. the most important change should be to hand over the arm band to nafees, just to get a taste of what he has to offer in this version of the game.

i also think it's a pretty good time for bashar to go on a vacation, or get injured; i would love for nafees to lead the team against scotland as well. besides, bashar doesn't really need match practice: if he's going to shine, he's going to shine anyways, with all the experience that he has.

as for tushar, i think he should try earning a living off the ncl, unless of course he scores five back-to-back double tons there, or something to that effect, coupled with a couple of great A team tours in england in the winter, south africa any time of the year and australia, including at least a triple in any one of those matches.

you can tell how much i dislike the concept of tushar being in the squad under his current form.

Protic
December 5, 2006, 03:40 PM
Omio : Yup not from me..Tushar should be sent back to NCL.
TheWatched : you pulled out great points.
Rana should come in for Rafique.. not that Rafiques not performing.. He needs rest.
Farhad Reza can come in for Bashar..Shahriar Nafees to lead.
Heres my team for the last 2 ODIS
Shahriar Nafees
Mehrab Hossain JR
Aftab Ahmed
Sakibul Hasan
Farhad Reza
Mohammad Ashraful
Manjarul Islam Rana
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzak
Shahadat Hossain
Mashrafe Mortaza
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I dont go with Resting mash and rajib a match..I mean mash needs to get wickets..for good ranking..and Shahadat should continue his flow.They are young lads..They just played 3 matches..after a month rest..why more rest? :)
Instead Rafique deserves a rest..He should stay fit for the WC.

sadi
December 5, 2006, 03:41 PM
I don't think Bashar will sit. He needs some match practice and don't have runs under his belt. However, I would like to see Rahim comes in for a game or two. Mashrafee should sit and rest whatever injury he is carrying and Rasel can get a chance.

sadi
December 5, 2006, 03:44 PM
Heres my team for the last 2 ODIS
Shahriar Nafees
Mehrab Hossain JR
Aftab Ahmed
Sakibul Hasan
Farhad Reza
Mohammad Ashraful
Manjarul Islam Rana
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzak
Shahadat Hossain
Mashrafe Mortaza
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I dont go with Resting mash and rajib a match..I mean mash needs to get wickets..for good ranking..and Shahadat should continue his flow.They are young lads..They just played 3 matches..after a month rest..why more rest? :)
Instead Rafique deserves a rest..He should stay fit for the WC.

I don't think Zimbabwe will let us play with 12 players. Bechara ra 11 jon khellei parena, 12 jon khelle ki korbe?

akabir77
December 5, 2006, 03:45 PM
Omio : Yup not from me..Tushar should be sent back to NCL.
TheWatched : you pulled out great points.
Rana should come in for Rafique.. not that Rafiques not performing.. He needs rest.
Farhad Reza can come in for Bashar..Shahriar Nafees to lead.
Heres my team for the last 2 ODIS
Shahriar Nafees
Mehrab Hossain JR
Aftab Ahmed
Sakibul Hasan
Farhad Reza
Mohammad Ashraful
Manjarul Islam Rana
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzak
Shahadat Hossain
Mashrafe Mortaza
----------------------
I dont go with Resting mash and rajib a match..I mean mash needs to get wickets..for good ranking..and Shahadat should continue his flow.They are young lads..They just played 3 matches..after a month rest..why more rest? :)
Instead Rafique deserves a rest..He should stay fit for the WC.

I don't think zimbo will agree with you and let mash play twice or be a 12th man and 11th man too.:-D
I like the team but i think they need to try one of the pacers (who ever is getting lots of wkts) from NCL. Nazmul/sharif/shajada...

Rubu
December 5, 2006, 03:46 PM
Good to see so many people think that rana need to get back in squad :)

I actually agree with ALL the changes Watcher suggested.

The quality of determination is hard to find in our team, and Rana and Rajin are two who has plenty of it. so, sooner or latter, they will come back.

Protic
December 5, 2006, 03:51 PM
LOL bangali.. kisu sare na :P
Kheyal kori nai bhai gon..
Cut the 2nd Mashrafe..just a clone.
Sadi : Mash didnt looked injured..at all..and he was playing because he was 100% fit.
So I really think he should play..i think many people will agree with me on that.
3 game and rest for a game..will just ruin his form.

akabir77
December 5, 2006, 03:55 PM
mirpur will be fast track so we will need more pacers. I am not sure rusell will be up to the task.

TheWatcher
December 5, 2006, 04:04 PM
mirpur will be fast track so we will need more pacers. I am not sure rusell will be up to the task.
Actually medium pacers do better on fast tracks. If Mirpur is not as flat as other wickets in the country, Rasel can give Zimbos hell with his swings. Moreover, it should be very clear by now that Zimbos struggle a lot against left armers.

About Mushfiq, I would love to see him back in the team, but his current form with bat simply can't justify a recall.

Fazal
December 5, 2006, 04:24 PM
About Mushfiq, I would love to see him back in the team, but his current form with bat simply can't justify a recall.

As much as I was a Mushfiq fan, I tend to agree with you that with his current form, you cannot justify his recall. Also I think its not a good idea to bring a off-form talent to the national team. We have seen enough of those saga ... when selectors tried to force the issue by slectiong off-form talent.

reyme
December 5, 2006, 04:42 PM
No point of taking a chance for a 3-2 series win. Zims are very determined and they will take advantage of anything, today they almost won.
But once 4-0, lets give Rana and Rajin a place in the team. They deserve a recall.

Miraz
December 5, 2006, 04:50 PM
IMO, No radical change. One or two change in the playing XI.

I want to include

- Shafaq
- Rasel

for one match each in place of Mashrafee and Shahadat . No change is required in the top order.

Mushfiq should play at least one ODI. If Farhad is drafted in, he should replace one of the two pacer.

TheWatcher
December 5, 2006, 05:38 PM
For the people who wants to see conservative selections for the last two ODIs- the series is dead, we have nothing else to gain from it other than the fact that we now have the best opportunity to test our reserve bench.

If we still can't win matches against Zimbabwe without Mashrafe, Bashar, and Rafique, we actually have gained nothing from this series.

Zunaid
December 5, 2006, 06:11 PM
I have to agree with TheWatcher with one change to his comment. We have been winning in ODIs inspite of Bashar, so now let's see what we do without him. My radical premise is this - Bashar and some others out of the ODI team for good. He must of course be in and lead the Test team. I think we have enough ODI depth to not need to have Bashar's confidence building presence as a necessity. Isn't it about time the team grew up and learn to perform with someone else at the helm?

Spitfire_x86
December 5, 2006, 06:28 PM
We must play replace Pilot with Mushfiq Rahim for the last two matches. Bashar can also go and let SN to do the captaincy for the last 2 matches.

Mahir
December 5, 2006, 06:29 PM
If we still can't win matches against Zimbabwe without Mashrafe, Bashar, and Rafique, we actually have gained nothing from this series.

that's very well said. I second you totally.

Bashar will probably not be benched. Mashrafee and Rafique has the best chances of being rested. And I also doubt the selection panel would draft anyone in the squad ; they might simply make changes from the 14 member squad that they already have. But ideally, if anyone has to be drafted in, it has to be Mushfiqur Rahim, in place of Mashud. Yes he is not in form, but the only justification i can give you for draftin him in is that he is the supposed one to take Mashud's spot after he retires. Is there a second candidate nearby ? Dhiman ? I havent seen anything such. So why not let Rahim get a match or two when there actually is a legitimate reason for Mashud to rest. And although I agree with TheWatcher about Tushar, but he is more or less set to play in the next two ODIs.

So, In a perfect world, this is how my preferred playing XI would look like, atleast for the next match :

S Nafees (captain)
Mehrab jnr
Aftab
Saqib
Tushar / Rana (he wud then drop down, coming in after Ash and Reza)
Ashraful
F Reza
M Rahim (wk)
Razzak
Rasel
Shahadat

Maybe the batting looks a bit prolonged with a shrunk bowling lineup, but Mehrab, Ashraful and Aftab can all have a go if needed.

al Furqaan
December 5, 2006, 08:01 PM
agree with watcher's first post, rubu's post, and zunaid's post...rana should be given a go and rafiq rested.

cricketboy
December 5, 2006, 08:24 PM
My team:

S Nafees
Forhad (forhad may be successful as Shane Watson is for Australia and we would have more options in bowling, I know Mehrab did well but we must try different options and Mehrab can play the last ODI and alsoa gainst Scotland)
Aftab
Sakib
Ashraful
Tushar
Masud
Razzak
Rasel
Rajib
Enamul or Rana(if Rana he would bat at No8)

uss01
December 5, 2006, 08:46 PM
You're wrong. There was no month rest for BD players after the Champion's Trophy. They played in the corporate cricket league and then the NCL. They probably did not even have a week's rest as they were training for this series. So, just because they did not play any international matches, does not mean they were resting!Get your facts together buddy.

Omio : Yup not from me..Tushar should be sent back to NCL.
TheWatched : you pulled out great points.
Rana should come in for Rafique.. not that Rafiques not performing.. He needs rest.
Farhad Reza can come in for Bashar..Shahriar Nafees to lead.
Heres my team for the last 2 ODIS
Shahriar Nafees
Mehrab Hossain JR
Aftab Ahmed
Sakibul Hasan
Farhad Reza
Mohammad Ashraful
Manjarul Islam Rana
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzak
Shahadat Hossain
Mashrafe Mortaza
----------------------
I dont go with Resting mash and rajib a match..I mean mash needs to get wickets..for good ranking..and Shahadat should continue his flow.They are young lads..They just played 3 matches..after a month rest..why more rest? :)
Instead Rafique deserves a rest..He should stay fit for the WC.

Murad
December 5, 2006, 09:21 PM
guys where is enamul hoque junior..

enamul er dekhi kono khobor e nai.. enamul ke ektu chance deya dorkar..one-day te.. rafique er pore to shei e ache...i meant after rafique is retired.. hes the one to come in... besides.. ranar cheye onek bhalo bowling kore shei...

SMHasan
December 5, 2006, 09:56 PM
I don't think we need to give break to any one from this squad. We need to drop couple of players- Bashar and Masud. These are old junk! Trust me Bashar lost the touch for ODI, he is too slow and Masud- thank you for serving us for years In ODI's.

There is no point of being complacent by winning this series, this opposition is nothing but a parar team. We need to show complete dominance by white washing them by a good mergin. There is no rest or break. If we can beat this team by a good mergin then we can expect a good show against the big guns.

If we have to give rest then if anyone feels out of sorts then give Mash a rest and not Shahadat. They need to play more to learn.

People here think that we have done great so you guys are thinking about giving players break but my message is -No rest. Drop Bashar and Masud from ODI team and play the best eleven for the rest of the ODIs. And crash the Zombies.

BD Tigers
December 5, 2006, 10:38 PM
There might probably be couple of changes. Rasel will play in place of Mash and Forhad will come in place of somebody but not sure who. Pilot and Bashar will play at both the games. We might even see Nadif Chowdhury in place of Saqib or Mehrab to experiment.

CricFanBD
December 5, 2006, 10:38 PM
Plz drop Bashar, Pilot and Rafiq for the rest of the two matches. Rasel should be included in one of the matches...Same to Enamul. Musfiq will automatically come insted of Pilot. Tushar Imran or Farhad may be considered instead of Bashar.

CricFanBD
December 5, 2006, 10:40 PM
There might probably be couple of changes. Rasel will play in place of Mash and Forhad will come in place of somebody but not sure who. Pilot and Bashar will play at both the games. We might even see Nadif Chowdhury in place of Saqib or Mehrab to experiment.
Why Pilot and Bashar needs to play more? Plz give them a break...they will die one day too...

imahmud
December 5, 2006, 10:40 PM
There are some really good proposals regarding the team selection by some of us but I’d like to think out of the box and have my own. In light of the coming World Cup, I’d like to propose/list the following players and their batting order for the up coming matches. It may appear to be ridiculous by some but I believe that a closet will be always messy as long as you don’t have enough room to place your stuff or you can throw them away and waste. Rather complaining about players like Masud, Ashraful or Bashar (messy closet) who surely are the candidate for the coming World Cup, give them chance (organize the closet) to sharpen their batting skills (in this less pressured environment) and help them regain their confidence level that they badly need and help them and us prepare. This is the best chance that we could have.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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4) Bashar /* He doesn’t need rest but more practice to regain confidence */


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WC */ <o:p></o:p>

Beamer
December 5, 2006, 11:04 PM
I have to agree with TheWatcher with one change to his comment. We have been winning in ODIs inspite of Bashar, so now let's see what we do without him. My radical premise is this - Bashar and some others out of the ODI team for good. He must of course be in and lead the Test team. I think we have enough ODI depth to not need to have Bashar's confidence building presence as a necessity. Isn't it about time the team grew up and learn to perform with someone else at the helm?

I believe an article has been presented and published in that regard:)

Beamer
December 5, 2006, 11:16 PM
In a team that already has too many left arm options, some of us want to bring back Rana for pure selfish personal reasons. How does that service the team? What we really need to do is dig deeper in the reserves of the existing pace bowling resources. I think we have a deficiency in that dept. After Mashrafee, Shahadat and Rasel ( who still is not a permanent replacement in my mind ) we do not have too many to pull from. The last two matches, we need to really take a look at the guys who are doing well in the NCL ( pacers). With the world cup rapidly approaching in the Carribean, it would be prudent to find out what the likes of Shafaq, Sharif , Shahjada and few others have to offer. After all, we won't be taking three left arm spinners to the carribean. If anything, we will have to carry an extra pacer or two to suit the pitches and environment. Why bother trying another left arm spinner when you know Rafiq and Razzak are the two first choices..

cricketboy
December 5, 2006, 11:30 PM
In a team that already has too many left arm options, some of us want to bring back Rana for pure selfish personal reasons. How does that service the team? What we really need to do is dig deeper in the reserves of the existing pace bowling resources. I think we have a deficiency in that dept. After Mashrafee, Shahadat and Rasel ( who still is not a permanent replacement in my mind ) we do not have too many to pull from. The last two matches, we need to really take a look at the guys who are doing well in the NCL ( pacers). With the world cup rapidly approaching in the Carribean, it would be prudent to find out what the likes of Shafaq, Sharif , Shahjada and few others have to offer. After all, we won't be taking three left arm spinners to the carribean. If anything, we will have to carry an extra pacer or two to suit the pitches and environment. Why bother trying another left arm spinner when you know Rafiq and Razzak are the two first choices..

I agree with you we should try a new fast bowler(instead of Mash and Rajib) but also must give chance to spinners like Enamul who will replace Rafique very soon and keeping in mind Zims struggle against left arm spin.

roaring tigerz
December 5, 2006, 11:31 PM
Bashar, Rafiq and Mash can sit out of the next game. And most importantly Mashud should be booted out of this team for good. If selectors thought selected Tushar among our first 14, he has to get a game before anyone else is brought in. I would love to see 2 new pacers. Rasel for Mashrafee is a straight swap. Farhad can also play, although I would like to see a genuine quickie tried...maybe Tapash or someone new like Shafaq,Sharif etc. So my team for ODI 4:

Nafees
Mehrab
Aftab
Sakib
Tushar
Ashraful
Mushfiq
Razzak
Rasel
Shahadat
Tapash/Shafaq/Sharif

cracky
December 5, 2006, 11:45 PM
Wow!!! How did you know that? I never knew Rana has that many personal relatives in this forum. Damn you Rana supporters, selfish bunch of people. How much bribe did Rana give you? Thanks to Beamer, otherwise I was almost supporting the inclusion of Rana in the team. If he can bribe all of you, I am sure he bribed all the national league umpires and opponents to let him perform excellent. Now that Beamer knows everything it ain't going to happen. I would rather see Beamer himself in the national team than Rana.

In a team that already has too many left arm options, some of us want to bring back Rana for pure selfish personal reasons.

Beamer
December 5, 2006, 11:50 PM
cracky bhai...you are cracking me up !

Zunaid
December 5, 2006, 11:56 PM
cracky bhai...you are cracking me up !


Here's my ODI 11

1. Beamer
2. Beamer
3. Beamer
4. cracky
5. cracky
.
.
You get my drift. With the coach being Rubu. Oldies here will know why Rubu when it comes to Rana. :)

AsifTheManRahman
December 6, 2006, 01:45 AM
too many beamers = not good. i foresee a bodyline-type ending - players injured, flags burning, zim supporters getting beaten up in the stands, prime ministers getting involved....except that we don't have any PM atm.

layperson
December 6, 2006, 03:08 AM
I am all for experimenting for the last two ODI's but what is the logic behind including someone in the team from out of the squad as some members want rana to be included in the playing eleven. We should instead give chances to the players selected in the squad to prove themselves. The big question is who. I think the only batsman who has proved himself is SN so the rest of the batters need to play the two remaining ODI's to prove their inclusion was worth it. The bowlers all bolwed well so I guess we can rest mashrafee and include rasel but I dont want to rest shahadat due to personal choice and it might be biased because I love to see a bangali bowler bowling with pace and I tend to favour him over mashrafee for this reason. For selfish reasons I want him to play all the time becuase I enjoy watching him bowl with aggression.

worldofad
December 6, 2006, 03:42 AM
the way BD batted in the 3rd ODI...it was simply shocking !! I thought Enamul Haque Moni should have stopped umpiring in the match and do some batting for BD...i remember his batting in the end of the innings all the time...Moni bhai onek rude hoye gese batting er kotha bhabloi na....
Well i agree that Rafique, Mash, Bashar & Pilot should be rested.

Omio
December 6, 2006, 05:05 AM
Rafique shuldnt go for rest, coz we want c how many wk he get in odi, i dont think so he will get any more chance after WC,so b4 WC he shul participate all of the match, and we shud bring back Alok for WC,
he wud b more better than SAkib ..

layperson
December 6, 2006, 05:37 AM
and we shud bring back Alok for WC,
he wud b more better than SAkib ..

:hairpull:OMG !!!!!!eita ki bollen bhai. :confused:Please no more Aloukik kopali. The team was just moving forward and we dont want it to go back a decade. Kapali can come in if and only if he scores consistently in domestic matches, A team tours and any other opportunities he gets. He should be averaging above 45 before we even consider bringing him back. His bowling is the worst I have seeen in international cricket. He doesnt even compare to sakib.

shovon13
December 6, 2006, 07:04 AM
i also agree that we should experiment a bit with our team in the last two odi's. we dont have many of these left before the world cup, and we dont want to be still experimenting in the practice matches right before the big tournament.

1. shahriar nafees - he should get as much batting as possible under his belt before the world cup. another big score will boost his confidence level even higher up.
2. mehrab jr. - i really like this kid. we still have to test him out against bigger fishes, but he passed enough tests in age-level competition and with the A team. my money says he's here to stay.
3. aftab - although he hit that 60+ in the first odi, he needs another big score (preferably a century) in this series. we need an in-form aftab in the world cup.
4. ash - this guy is the best we have for the middle overs. i dont know how come so few people recognize that. he's not a slogger (unlike what many believes). in fact, he's at his best when he bats like the way he batted in the last odi. his 36 came off 50 deliveries with only 3 4's, with a very respectable (under the circumstances) strike rate of 72.
5. farhad - this guy seems too good to not test him out further. but his bowling may be below par for the more established nations.
6. sakib - has the ability to both accelerate or rebuild an inning. in fact, sakib and farhad both are pretty similar players, while sakib may have a slightly better temperament.
7. mushfiq - pilot's days need to come to an end. with all due respect to pilot (thank you for that 6 off suji in '97, among many other things), he's holding back our team.
8. tapash - deserves it. has been batting well too. if his bowling is back in form again, he should be part of the world cup picture.
9. razzak - sla's tend to get better as they gain more and more experience. razzak needs as much match practice as he can get before the world cup. he may be the only specialist spinner playing.
10. shahadat - he's pretty much sure to be in our world cup team as well. nothing better than boosting your confidence up by knocking someone's stumps back.
11. rasel - as much as i've heard, the pitch for the last two odis will offer the seamers some help. we also need to find out who's the better option for our third seamer - rasel or tapash.

p.s. seeing how mushfiq's batting form is rather indifferent right now, i wouldn't mind letting tushar imran have a go at the keeping position. if he is a pretty decent keeper, he'll fit pretty nicely into our world cup team, giving us a better batsman as well. of course rahim is our long term solution, but for now tushar seems a very viable alternative. at such a young age, in fact, rahim shouldn't be included in our odi team. we can wait for his maturation.

thebest
December 6, 2006, 08:53 AM
Dhiman is actually performing in NCL. I would like to see Dhiman in any of the match. This would keep Mushfiq on his toe and realize that Pilot's is keeping warm the seat for him. Also Pilot need to remind that w/k position is not his right. For the last year and half his batting is simple horrible. He is now an ideal no 11. Though in terms of W/K I would rate him in top echolon of the world.
By the way what happened to Shaheen?

layperson
December 6, 2006, 09:59 AM
I think now the easiest way to get into the BD team would be if you are a wicketkeeper. I played with a couple of people in my school team who were good keepers and much much better at batting than pilot. Too bad they gave up on cricket.

Kabir
December 6, 2006, 10:47 AM
p.s. seeing how mushfiq's batting form is rather indifferent right now, i wouldn't mind letting tushar imran have a go at the keeping position. if he is a pretty decent keeper, he'll fit pretty nicely into our world cup team, giving us a better batsman as well. of course rahim is our long term solution, but for now tushar seems a very viable alternative. at such a young age, in fact, rahim shouldn't be included in our odi team. we can wait for his maturation.

I agree with everything except for two things:

1. I think Mushfiq should be given as much exposure as we can right now. This kid's only 18, and looking down the road, he has 15+ years of possibility to play for BD. Although I should admit that I haven't seen him keeping...our approach shouldn't be to use someone temporarily. We have to look for opportunities down the road, even if it is by taking decisions that might put us in trouble right now. And that's where the real test comes.

2. I wanted to see Mashrafee in your team. Don't know who to sit make spot for Mashrafee. They're all great players here :(

And I would like to thank you for saying all you said about Ashraful. I agree with that completely (OMG - again Ashraful talk).

arafath79
December 6, 2006, 12:51 PM
I will prefer Dhiman Ghosh instead of Musfiqur Rahim !!!

Tapash should get into the team who took all the responsibilities of the pace attack during Masrafe's injury and did very good job before. I want to see
a new comer who could be Dollar Mahmud if he is quick like Tapash, Mashrafe or Shahadat.

Rana could play in the remaining two ODI against Zim to take the place of Rafique( he needs rest ).

sunniath
December 6, 2006, 12:54 PM
no experiment.players can be rested,but no new faces should be brought in.i think we have found our team for the world cup.now the management should keep this team together as much as possible.

arafath79
December 6, 2006, 01:03 PM
i also agree that we should experiment a bit with our team in the last two odi's. we dont have many of these left before the world cup, and we dont want to be still experimenting in the practice matches right before the big tournament.


3. aftab - although he hit that 60+ in the first odi, he needs another big score (preferably a century) in this series. we need an in-form aftab in the world cup.

6. sakib - has the ability to both accelerate or rebuild an inning. in fact, sakib and farhad both are pretty similar players, while sakib may have a slightly better temperament.

7. mushfiq - pilot's days need to come to an end. with all due respect to pilot (thank you for that 6 off suji in '97, among many other things), he's holding back our team.

8. tapash - deserves it. has been batting well too. if his bowling is back in form again, he should be part of the world cup picture.



If Aftab is in good form in the world cup then he will make the bowlers crying who will bowl against him. I always want to see his fire work while he is batting. Aftab is the tiger. :flag: Tapash should get some chances to prove himself again as a good pace bowler. I like his bowling action with good pace (faster than Mashrafe but not better than Mashrafe) and he can swing the ball nicely too. I don't want to see Mushfique in the main BD XI. May be Dhiman or Tushar if both of them are in good batting form otherwise Khaled Mashud will be the best choice. :)

arafath79
December 6, 2006, 01:25 PM
My best XI in the 4th and 5th ODI against Zim.

1)S Nafees(c)
2)M Hossain
3)A Ahmed
4)S Hassan
5)M Ashraful
6)T Imran or D Ghosh(wk)
7)F Reza
8)M Rana
9)T Baisya
10)A Razzaq
11)S Hossain

12th man S Rassel

RESTING PLAYERS: H Bashar, K Mashud, M Rafique and M Mortaza.

Murad
December 6, 2006, 03:01 PM
My best XI in the 4th and 5th ODI against Zim.

1)S Nafees(c)
2)M Hossain
3)A Ahmed
4)S Hassan
5)M Ashraful
6)T Imran or D Ghosh(wk)
7)F Reza
8)M Rana
9)T Baisya
10)A Razzaq
11)S Hossain

12th man S Rassel

RESTING PLAYERS: H Bashar, K Mashud, M Rafique and M Mortaza.

in your dream........

bashar and rafique is not resting for sure... they will play anyhow...

Mahir
December 7, 2006, 12:00 AM
So Rahim does get the call-up, replacing Tushar. Good to know. :) So is it safe to assume that our selectors have started to think much more positively than before ?

Protic
December 7, 2006, 12:01 AM
uss01 : I would still say .. Mash and Shahadat should play..no rest.
Rafique can rest...
And its almost certain Bashar wont be rested.. but theres probability of Mash resting.