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baisab
December 6, 2006, 10:26 AM
Bangladesh have called up batsman and wicketkeeper Mushfiqur Rahim for the remaining two matches of the one-day series against Zimbabwe.

Mushfiqur will replace batsman Tushar Imaran, who did not play in the first three matches, all of which Bangladesh won to take the series.

The 18-year-old's only one-day international appearance was in August against Zimbabwe in Harare, but did not bat.

The two matches will be played in Dhaka on Friday and Saturday.

Squad: Habibul Bashar (captain), Shahriar Nafees, Mohammad Ashraful, Khaled Mashud, Mohammad Rafique, Mushfiqur Rahim, Mashrafe Mortaza, Abdur Razzak, Aftab Ahmed, Syed Rasel, Shahadat Hossain, Farhad Reja, Saqibul Hasan, Mehrab Hossain.

Cricketworld.com (http://www.cricketworld.com/bangladesh/article/?aid=8580)

pilot fan
December 6, 2006, 10:35 AM
good descision we need to see how he can form in one days

Rubu
December 6, 2006, 10:44 AM
This is the first time in a long while I see the selectors had made a timely decision. :up:

kalpurush
December 6, 2006, 11:18 AM
Impeccabe decision and timing! This is Mushfiq's chance to utilize the situation and make him ready for the coming WC. Good luck and all the best.

kalpurush
December 6, 2006, 11:26 AM
good descision we need to see how he can form in one days


Pilot fan hoyeo Mushfiq-k shagoto janano- Shahonshilota er cricket progger mohaporichoy! You have earned our respect. Emonta jodi aamra beshir bhag manush ra hotye partam!!:-D

cricket_dorshok
December 6, 2006, 11:35 AM
Why replace Tusher Imran not Pilot?

cricket_dorshok
December 6, 2006, 11:37 AM
What was/is the basis for Tusher's inclusion/exclusion.

Sam
December 6, 2006, 11:38 AM
We need to try Syed Russel in last 2 matches in place of Rajib.

Rihaad The Man
December 6, 2006, 11:43 AM
Yeah this lil kid should be given a chance now . It's a damn good idea :).......

Sam
December 6, 2006, 11:48 AM
What was/is the basis for Tusher's inclusion/exclusion.
Included by performance,
Excluded to make him captain of A Team:-D :saint:

Sam
December 6, 2006, 11:50 AM
Welcome to BC, Rihaad the Man.
Wish you a pleasant time with us. Enjoy.

SS
December 6, 2006, 11:51 AM
Can't imagine how Tushar Imran feels now...If we were him we would have left the national team and retire!!!
I guess he will do that soon lol.

Nasif
December 6, 2006, 11:56 AM
We need to try Syed Russel in last 2 matches in place of Rajib.

Absolutely no point in doing that, unless you plan to play Russel in WC. To me Russel's bowling is nothing to be crazy about. I would say it is ok (and below standard for good teams). He could appear strong to minnows, but to other Test countries his bowling cab be termed as what we refer to "chom chom" [বাংলা]চমচম[/বাংলা]. Easy for batsman to get settled and whack it out of the park.

When Mashrafe's bowling on one end creates pressure, Russel's over lets batsman relax and settle down.

Rajib is much better bowler than him in terms of speed and variations.

Sam
December 6, 2006, 11:57 AM
Just now I have read in Bangladesher Khela that Faruq explained about the exclusion of TI from the ODI team as an aftermath of Ashraful's inclusion.
Tushar out, Mushfiq in (http://www.bangladesherkhela.com/default.asp?strrefer=displayocr&straction=headline&iItemID=23100&iCategoryID=1)

Sam
December 6, 2006, 12:11 PM
...Rajib is much better bowler than him in terms of speed and variations.
I agree with you, Nasif Bhai about speed, but in terms of variation, does he have it? He should work more on swinging the ball bothway and deliver the ball with variable speed in addition to keeping line and length.
Inthis series he has conceded so far 7 No balls and 11 wides from 29 overs. Don't you think, that it needs to be improved?

khalifa
December 6, 2006, 12:13 PM
My question is - if he does get the nod in remaining matches, will he be considered in place of KM, or a specialist batsman? If latter, who he will replace from the batsman quota?

Sauron
December 6, 2006, 12:19 PM
We need to try Syed Russel in last 2 matches in place of Rajib.
That is not a good idea, IMO. Shahadat needs to bowl as much as possible and get settled in his role as Mashrafee's associate in destructing opposition's top order.

Also, given Shahadat's constantly improving performance, he is a much better weapon than Rasel, against all oppononents. He bolwed as fast as 85+ mph in the last match. His line is getting better with each match. Also, he has started to swing it both ways lately. So, Rajib over Rasel is a no-brainer at this point.

Ditto Nasif. No experiment unless the subject of teh experiment is a huge possibility of being in the WC team.

sadi
December 6, 2006, 12:21 PM
I don't think he will get a chance as a specialist batsman. I don't see any of our top six getting a break. Mashud must sit and give this kid a chance.

view360
December 6, 2006, 01:03 PM
It is a decision which was long overdue. KM should have been replaced long ago.His batting style is frustrating and yet he represents the old BD team which used play for the 50 overs only. We need to have brave WK batsmen. Look at other WK like Sangakara, Dhoni, Kamran, Boucher and not to mention Gilchrist and even Taylor !

Fazal
December 6, 2006, 02:19 PM
The selectors are making same old mistake again and again... timing is everything specially when its about bringing a new and young player in the team.

When they will learn that national team is not a place where you hope young and inconsiostent players will suddenly regain their form? Then why do we need team-a, development team and domestic league for?

For long run, yes I think he is one of the front-runner to replace Pilot. But now with his off from.....I see little hope.... no way I would ruin his career prematurely. And I give 100% blame to the selectors for not addressing this back-up wicket keeper issue for too long. Now realizing that, they are trying to take drastic measure like letting a off-form young players play his first ever ODI (actually it will be his 2nd ODI).

Find Dhiman... shaheen... anyone...but please don't ruin Rahim's career, the way we did for other players. And if we try Rahim anyway then try more games (than just one).... one game here and another game there (after one year)... and picking up on wrong time... will do one thing for sure.... that is ruin his career prematurely.

Murad
December 6, 2006, 02:34 PM
guys.. i dont like this mushiq.. shala run korte parena.. 6 NCL match e tar total run hocche 85 ar highest hocche 29.. hes not a good batsman... hes gonna be another mashud.. as he plays so many balls to make just 1 run..

i think they shud give saghir hossain a chance.. A-Team's weeket-keeper...

TheWatcher
December 6, 2006, 02:47 PM
I totally agree with Fazal. The logical decesion for the selectors would be to wait and see how Mushfiq does in the A-team match and may be then bring him in for the Scotland series.

His sudden inclusion in the team once again shows that selectors don't give damn about domestic league performences (good or bad ones). Ashraful was recalled, I guess, only because of the media pressure.

imran78
December 6, 2006, 05:30 PM
rahim is a very defensive batsman. not sure he will really be an improvement over pilot at this time but there's no harm in trying him out. pilot has been a bit sloppy behind the wickets lately too.

al Furqaan
December 6, 2006, 05:41 PM
i disagree, fazal,

the series is in the bag, mushy has nothing to prove. he is not yet gonna be considered to replace pilot. even if he scored 2 run a ball hundreds, he would have virtually no chance to play in the WC except against bermuda. so no pressure should be on him and its a weak team. perfect time to test him out.

i also feel that rasel should get to play 2 matches. we need pacer depth, and we need to rotate the pacers. have mash and rasel in one match, and rasel and rajib in the other.

i disagree, with nasif, rasel may not make much of Test bowler (still his averages are better than talha, tapash, and sharif - albiet he's played only 3-4 Tests), but even if he takes no wickets, his economic bowling in ODIs can be quite important. remember that 28 run spell against SL that won us the game?

i admit, with his mid 70 mile an hour pace, rasel will be at best a 3rd pacer...but the moving ball at any pace, is tough for even the sachins of the world.

Fazal
December 6, 2006, 06:41 PM
i disagree, fazal,

the series is in the bag, mushy has nothing to prove. he is not yet gonna be considered to replace pilot. even if he scored 2 run a ball hundreds, he would have virtually no chance to play in the WC except against bermuda. so no pressure should be on him and its a weak team. perfect time to test him out.
.

Yes every thing is ideal for a new in-from talent to try for. But the only problem is Rahim is now off form. And regadless how ideal the situation is, usually you don't try a off-form new talent for national team.

roaring tigerz
December 6, 2006, 06:53 PM
Bangladeshi cricket fans rejoice!I I see no reason whatsoever for this skepticism. Mashud is being 'rested' at last. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of his ODI career.
Rasel is still very much vying for the slot of our 2nd pacer. In fact a Rasel Rajib combo has worked better for us than with a rajib Mashrafee partnership.
Tushar's omission is senseless to say the least. Unlike the popular view in this forum, I believe that Tushar has what it takes to succeed as a permanent middle order batsman. The inexperience and inconsistency of our batsmen strengthens the need for his inclusion. Rahim had to come in for Mashud.
I also wanted to see a third specialist pacer in the team. This SLA ploy would explode in our face when we play any decent team. Every one of them are defensive, containing bowlers.We will go for no less than 300 every time we decide to field this bowling line-up against a better team. We desperately need another quickie. Tapash, Shafaq, Sharif....anyone!

BD Tigers
December 6, 2006, 09:34 PM
Its a good news that Mushfiq got the nod. Hopefully he'll play at least one game (5th one probably). People who said that he doesn't know how to bat should recall the century he scored against a good county team in England. I know he's not in form but that can change in just one inning.

If Rasel plays he will replace Mash not Shahadat cause Mash needs the rest.

Poor Tushar..his career might end prematurely like Bidyut. I hope not.

Protic
December 6, 2006, 10:57 PM
I dont think they'll replace Mashud with Mushfiq for the last 2 ODI's..even though i would like to see Mushfiq play! And about AClass's performance.. doesnt matter that Mushfiq scored 85 runs in 8 matches.. Shahriar Nafees's Aclass match stats are quite bad..he got pushed into the team from mama chachar khatir. A CLASS and INT.Cricket is very different. I dont think Mushfiq is any different than Khaled Mashud really..We arent having a keeper like Dhoni,Boucher,Sangakkara in the recent future..probably 1 or 2 year more..then we might get one..BD really produces bad wk batsmen.It would have been great if Aftab wasnt an Okey bowler..we could have taught him how to do wicket-keeping.
SS : I dont think TI should retire..why should he? He's the captain of A team..he's in very good form..scoring runs in Alist matches,NCL matches..and most importantly he wasnt dropped for bad performance this time unlike always.

Kabir
December 6, 2006, 10:58 PM
Yes every thing is ideal for a new in-from talent to try for. But the only problem is Rahim is now off form. And regadless how ideal the situation is, usually you don't try a off-form new talent for national team.

Fazal bhai...I agree with you, but in a different way. I agree that he's off form...but I wanted his inclusion not for batting only, but for keeping as wel. Since we bagged the tournament, his keeping and batting standards at this level could both be tested together. I think it's a bad decision by the selectors. Tushar should've been kept instead of Pilot.

CricFanBD
December 7, 2006, 12:24 AM
Smart move by the selectors. But I hope that Mushfiq will play two ODI regardless of his performance in first ODI. A player can't be judged by only one ODI...that will not be fair.

Kabir
December 7, 2006, 01:35 AM
Smart move by the selectors. But I hope that Mushfiq will play two ODI regardless of his performance in first ODI. A player can't be judged by only one ODI...that will not be fair.

Moreover, I hope people don't complain if he has a slow strike rate. He might just be like Mehrab jr. who wants to settle down first.

kalpurush
December 7, 2006, 01:36 AM
guys.. i dont like this mushiq.. shala run korte parena..


Dulabhai hoye shalar bodnam!...Bhabi shunley...rannay kintu lobon beshi thakbe ekhon thek-e!!;)

mshakir56
December 7, 2006, 02:33 AM
I just hope Rahim doesn't perform worse than Pilot. cause Pilot deserves a rest, and that won't happend if Rahim doesn't perform.

mzia
December 7, 2006, 04:51 AM
What was/is the basis for Tusher's inclusion/exclusion.

Tushar was included, and excluded without playing any match. So form is not the question. Selector has given an excuse but that is not clean.
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Now musfiq has been included. Where is his slot? If he replaces Masud then he would get a chance, otherwise he will has also remain without playing.
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How selector are processing the selection that is not transparent and meaningful. Ashraful's exclusion and inclusion, one was definitely wrong. This effect has been continuing still and will.

Ahmed_B
December 7, 2006, 07:51 AM
What was/is the basis for Tusher's inclusion/exclusion.
Tushar was included to play in the position 4 or 5... but that was before Ash was taken back in the team. After Ash being recalled... No more valid reasons to keep Tushar in.

On the other hand... Mushfiq is probably included to replace Pilot since he is suffering from bad batting form.

sadi
December 7, 2006, 09:06 AM
Eventhough its unfortunate, it happens all the time in cricket when someone gets dropped without even playing a match. Tushar is unfortunate to get dropped like this but he had no chance to play in the series and he is better off playing the domestic cricket.

akabir77
December 7, 2006, 10:35 AM
Tusher is our backup player. he can continue with A team and when ever players get injured or something he can come and fill the position. and may be he will start doing better cause he is still young and he had lot of potential when he started. So don't write him off yet

akabir77
December 7, 2006, 10:38 AM
alsoits not all about one have to in the playing eleven. the young guys can learn lots of more things. like when they get selected (like mushfiq) he has access to NTL physio and ntl coach and other facilities. not to mention 24 coaching from pilot as they will be leaving in the same hotel. He will get a feeling how its like to be in the ntl team. so don't worry even if he doesn't get a playing time. but like the selectors said he probably will paly on the 5th.

Murad
December 7, 2006, 01:53 PM
mushfiq is playing the 4th match.. and mashud is resting.....

but ei cheleta o mashud er moto.. very depensive shot khele.. number 7 e naima jodi depensive khele..taile to over furiye jaabe..

akabir77
December 7, 2006, 02:13 PM
mushfiq is playing the 4th match.. and mashud is resting.....

but ei cheleta o mashud er moto.. very depensive shot khele.. number 7 e naima jodi depensive khele..taile to over furiye jaabe..

kan bhai onnera pitaibo shobirey ki martey hobey naki. ami chai she jodi name purata bat koruk. we have now grafters in number 2(mehrab), 4(Hasan) and 7(Mushfiq). rest to pita piti kheley so khrap ki.

Murad
December 7, 2006, 02:37 PM
bhai... amra mashud ke complain korii cuz 1 run tulte.. onek gulo ic-keeper batsman lagbe...jei.. but mone hoina.. bd te bhalo batsman wicket-keeper ashbe..
mushfiq under-19 e thakte o erokom khelto.. i dont think hes gonna change.....

FaridpurChicago
December 7, 2006, 03:00 PM
Sometimes the changes are made for the sake of change only. Mehrab Jr is slow like JO whom he replaced. I think Mushfiq's will be similar against Pilot. Still I support this change. Nothing can be worse than Pilot. He's a loser and we can't continue with him anymore. At least Mushfiq will have better attitude. Pilot is still with the same mind set when we used to play to bat for 50 overs. Pilot is still happy with a 50 ball 18 runs. This guy might do the same, but he won't be happy at least.

Sauron
December 8, 2006, 11:40 AM
I thought Mushfiq's glove work was much better and agile in the 4th ODI compared to Pilot's performance in recent days. He was also pretty vocal for most of the match. As a side note - when pilot shouts behind the stumps, it is sort of hard to make out what he is saying, but Mushfiq's vocalizations are easier to understand - and that is useful when the keeper is trying to taunt the batsman.

HereWeGo
December 8, 2006, 01:27 PM
http://www.thedailystar.net/2006/12/09/d61209040327.htm

. But do you honestly think there is anybody who can replace me now? Yes, there is a question about my recent batting form but I honestly don't think it was too bad," he said.

The above is a comment by khaled Masud... if u ask me i think he breached the code of conduct... and should not be picked i the team at all ..

pagol-chagol
December 8, 2006, 01:39 PM
Mushfiq is much quicker than Pilot. I loved it when in one motion he jumped up, caught the ball, and while on the air, he swiped his hand with the ball at the wicket and saw Chigambura's back foot was in the creeze and somehow managed to stop himself from hitting the wicket. And then he came back to the ground. Amazing quick thinking and reflex. You can't teach that. My jaw dropped and he made me an instant fan right there.

Miraz
December 8, 2006, 01:51 PM
I am very imprssed with the glovework of Mushfiq. The incident P-C mentioned and the stumping of Taylor was simply brilliant.

Now, if he can bat the way he batted in U-19 WC or in last England tour. He should be picked for the WC.

khalifa
December 8, 2006, 03:30 PM
I am very imprssed with the glovework of Mushfiq. The incident P-C mentioned and the stumping of Taylor was simply brilliant.

Now, if he can bat the way he batted in U-19 WC or in last England tour. He should be picked for the WC.

Completely agree. I must admit that I was a little bit nervous to see Mushfique behind the stumps for the first time, but he brilliantly erased all of that with a left side dive to save a wide ball going for a boundary, from Shahadat's first over. Amazing reflex!! And like Miraz said, if he can perform with the bat, KMP will be a history in no time...

Fazal
December 8, 2006, 03:49 PM
http://www.thedailystar.net/2006/12/09/d61209040327.htm

. But do you honestly think there is anybody who can replace me now? Yes, there is a question about my recent batting form but I honestly don't think it was too bad," he said.

The above is a comment by khaled Masud... if u ask me i think he breached the code of conduct... and should not be picked i the team at all ..


Hmmm.... thats not a good sign.... looks like in future, whenever Pilot goes for good, it will be again a ChaCha saga ...or even worst.

al Furqaan
December 8, 2006, 04:07 PM
mushy's keeping was never empasized...everyone from McInnes down, raved about his batting. i guess that happened since pilot is such a feeble batsman. but mushy's keeping was certainly top class...he might not be the best there is, but he left nothing wanting.

his batting cannot be worse than pilot's...but rather than putting him into our core rotation, lets wait another year or so, then put him in.

Beamer
December 8, 2006, 04:14 PM
That was an awful, moaning, bitchy comment by khaled Mashud. He doesn't think that his batting has been that bad ! What? He has been taking up almost three balls per run coming to bat at no.7. With a much more settled batting order, we would require a batsman at n0.7 who can score atleast at run-a-ball. That is the order of the day. I have been watching Mashud's batting for a while now. This is not the same batsman who scored a stroke filled century against WI two years ago. He has to accept that fact. Selectors are correct in identifying this problem at no.7 in one day line up. Even if Rahim scores a run-a-ball 20+ from that position, it still is an upgrade from Pilot under the new scenario. Selectors were planning this for a while. In the African tour, if Bashar didn't get hurt, I was sure they would have played Rahim in place of Pilot who took over the captaincy then.

Beamer
December 8, 2006, 04:21 PM
mushy's keeping was never empasized...everyone from McInnes down, raved about his batting. i guess that happened since pilot is such a feeble batsman. but mushy's keeping was certainly top class...he might not be the best there is, but he left nothing wanting.

his batting cannot be worse than pilot's...but rather than putting him into our core rotation, lets wait another year or so, then put him in.

We will need a better one day batsman at the keeper position. And we need it now. I will play Rahim as much as possible up until the WC to settle him in. I don't see much prospect for Pilot in the one day team anymore. Sometimes, you have to make the firm decisions for the team and stick to it. I would like him to only play tests. He can play another year or two. Rahim is too young for tests. Meanwhile, he or another batsman keepper ( whoever in the running ) should play one dayers instead of Pilot.

akabir77
December 8, 2006, 04:26 PM
I think not only mushi we should try out the dashing wk from NCL. two of them should play one match at a time to see who is better.Pilot has served us well but he should retire now from ODI. please learn from Martin or the BD soccer players.(i think 3/4 of them retired when they were on top like joy and some others).

Orion
December 8, 2006, 04:30 PM
Come on people, give Pilot a break. He has been serving Bangladesh cricket for so long so atleast show him some respect. He is one of the best keepers in the world, certainly the best in South Asia but his batting abilities have been fading recently but he is only a human being and obviously he feels threatened if sumone challenges for a place...he has occupied for so long. I was impressed my Mushfiq yesterday..he can develop into a great keeper and he will certainly replace Pilot one day but that doesn't give us the right to ridicule someone who can be considered as one of the legends of BD cricket.

Beamer
December 8, 2006, 04:41 PM
I really don't see him as the best keeper in South Asia. Heard of Sangakkara? And, offcourse, Akmal, Dhoni ( top ten batsman ) are leagues ahead of him when it comes to batting.

Yes. He has served us well and for many years. Nothing can take it away from him. But, he himslef has to recognize his own decline and not live in denial. Instead, he has been foolishly arrogant in his recent remarks that will certainly irk the selectors. Such remarks will ceratinly earn him no respects. He would be better off to keep quiet and work hard to work on his recent shortcomings. I remember, only even an year ago, when he used to rattle off singles against spinners every delivery with occassional boundaries. Forget about boundaries now. He can't even rotate and the only shot he plays against the spinners is this pre-meditated sweep and that too gets him out more often than produce runs..

pagol-chagol
December 8, 2006, 05:20 PM
Come on people, give Pilot a break. He has been serving Bangladesh cricket for so long so atleast show him some respect. He is one of the best keepers in the world, certainly the best in South Asia but his batting abilities have been fading recently but he is only a human being and obviously he feels threatened if sumone challenges for a place...he has occupied for so long. I was impressed my Mushfiq yesterday..he can develop into a great keeper and he will certainly replace Pilot one day but that doesn't give us the right to ridicule someone who can be considered as one of the legends of BD cricket.

He was a great keeper and a gutsy batsman who saved us from many embarassments. No BD cricket fan will ever forget that last over 6 against Kenya. I understand you feelings, but using that same logic we'll have to get Nannu, Akram and bulbul back. I don't think Moni chacha would give up his burgeoning umpiring career to join our team.

akabir77
December 8, 2006, 05:29 PM
Come on people, give Pilot a break. He has been serving Bangladesh cricket for so long so atleast show him some respect. He is one of the best keepers in the world, certainly the best in South Asia but his batting abilities have been fading recently but he is only a human being and obviously he feels threatened if sumone challenges for a place...he has occupied for so long. I was impressed my Mushfiq yesterday..he can develop into a great keeper and he will certainly replace Pilot one day but that doesn't give us the right to ridicule someone who can be considered as one of the legends of BD cricket.
Sorry to burst your buble but he is not a legend. a good wk and who served bd but not a legend. if you start giving legend status left and right then every jodu modhu kodu will become bd legend. And no one in there coment disrespected him. But he should retire from ODI.

pagol-chagol
December 8, 2006, 05:33 PM
Did you guys notice Atahar Ali threw every accolade at Mushfique at the slightest opportunity? We already know Mushi has Atahar won. In the 2011 World Cup which will be in BD(among others), I am hoping we will have a competitive team. Mushfiq got the inside track to be our keeper in that World Cup, although many things can happen before that, I think, we might want Mushfiq to get some experience in the 2007 WC. This will help us a lot in 2011. What can Pilot do for us in this world cup. Not much. What do you think?

pagol-chagol
December 8, 2006, 05:36 PM
why does all my paragraphs in the posts collapse to one paragraph?

Murad
December 8, 2006, 05:47 PM
mashud is certainly a very goood keeper but not a batsman....

i think he is a very good batsman for TESTs.. they shud never take mushfiq in the tests.in a year or more.. he shud be in the one-day games..

Omio
December 8, 2006, 05:48 PM
mashud shud play till wc..

RazabQ
December 8, 2006, 06:12 PM
Like the other posters, I had misgivings about Mushy's keeping but the boy is definitely agile and vocal. Except for one from Sakib that took off, hit his pad and went for a bye, I thought Mushy's glovework was excellent. And indeed the stumping and the athletic takes shows us what we've been lacking with Pilot. Frankly, Pilot's keeping has been on the wane too. He's reflexes are slowing. As for batting, he's totally lost it. It might make sense for BD, in the next 3 ODIs to send Mushy up the order to see what his batting's like. If it's clicking, then we should jettison Pilot now, with honor, and wish him well. Sentimentality has no place in top-flight sports.

My only concern with Mushy is his height. Man he's short!

Omio
December 8, 2006, 06:14 PM
My only concern with Mushy is his height. Man he's short!
but our pacer doesnt have too much bounch when they r bowling..

Ejaj
December 9, 2006, 01:52 AM
I also agree with most of u guys. Ppl suspecting Mushy's keeping ability should not need to do so. His keeping is pretty standard. He was very impressive in this last Odi with his gloves. I specially loved one run out attempt which failed as Razzak couldnt catch the ball. He was just soo quick to take off the gloves and throw the ball at the non striker end. Brilliant. I would recon Mushy to be safer hand than Pilot at the current form. May be, its the experience that will keep Pilot in the team till the world cup.

To be fair, Mushfiq must get more oppertunity than what he is getting now.
One more point, I dont understand why Rajib is given break so often, its Mash who needed to be taken care off more seriously. ANd, this Forhad is a pathtic bowler. May be, Shafaq or someother quicky should have been tried in this match.

layperson
December 9, 2006, 02:01 AM
I think it is time to let go off mashud for good with all due respect. Mushfique is a better batsman than pilot from the beginning and the only question mark was with his wicketkeeping and he has not done much wrong in keeping in the two matches he got chance. Keeping is something which is not likely to change with opposition because it is more to do with the bowlers in your team and the wickets and I think mushfique is good enough in keeping to be playing instead of pilot specially because of his batting. We should however keep pilot in test matches for another year or two and then tel him to go away from international cricket for good. Pilot has got a serious attitude problem and think way too high of himself which he is not. We should be moving forward not get stagnant and doing away with mashud is a step forward for BD cricket. I know we all acknowledge pilot's contribution in the past but that does not mean we have to keep him in the team until he decides to go himself. I say we go in the world cup with Mushfique as our keeper. What do you guys think ?

mhferdaus
December 9, 2006, 02:44 AM
bhai... amra mashud ke complain korii cuz 1 run tulte.. onek gulo ic-keeper batsman lagbe...jei.. but mone hoina.. bd te bhalo batsman wicket-keeper ashbe..
mushfiq under-19 e thakte o erokom khelto.. i dont think hes gonna change.....


looks like you are obsessed with hating Mushfiq :D

AsifTheManRahman
December 9, 2006, 06:33 PM
i say we test him out a bit more. let's test him out against scotland, and then against zimbabwe in feb (if it's happenning at all), and then against bermuda and canada. i would also like to see our players playing against each other a lot - Red XI vs Blue XI or whatever they wanna call 'em, just the way the Indians do. that imo will be better match practice than playing against scotland/zimbabwe because our batters will get to face bowlers like razzak/masri/rajib and our bowlers will get to bowl to nafees, bashar, etc in a match environment. if mushy fares well in those games, then please drag him in. i am slowly losing faith in pilot's abilities as both keeper and no.7.

BangladeshFan
December 9, 2006, 07:09 PM
in one day cricket teams even choose wk by batting, glovework comes second i.e. india goes for dhoni. mush is better in batting, younger. if his keeping is atleast same as pilot i dont see any reason why bd shouldnt take mush. a better keeper batsman will make a lot of difference to this bd team in WC specially with our fragile batting lineup.

Zobair
December 9, 2006, 07:26 PM
Let me summarize the points in favour of Mushfiq to become Bangladesh's number 1 wicketkeeper with immediate effect:

1. He keeps very well. Having watched all the games, I can say he kept better that Pilot in this series (didn't drop any chances, was in good position for creating run-outs).
2. He has kept wickets to Sakib and Mehrab (razzak too in some 'A' games) on numerous occasion in age-group cricket, so more than half the battle is won right there!
3. An "out-of-form" Mushfiq played the perfect foil to Bashar with the bat when the pressure was really on, placing the ball in the gaps with genuine cricket shots i.e. he can perform under pressure when it really counts. An in-form Mushfiq will be a huge bonanza for our ODI lineup.

Pilot is a fighter and he should do an "Ashraful" in domestic cricket. If he can manage even half of what Ash did, he can re-establish himself as the no.1 keeper since given all other important factors being equal he edges out Mushfiq in experience for the WC in March.

al Furqaan
December 9, 2006, 07:42 PM
mushy should be the immediate replacement at WK for mashud in ODIs. we have to win matches now more than ever.

no one is realizing that n-tier has already started a year ago!!!

and if we can't win some games against big boys we will be in n-tier forever (at least till 2012 or so). remember first it was the damned indians who reneged on their commitments and refused to play us, but we got by since the other 8 nations complied with FTP. now NZ has given us the shaft. pretty soon, we will be relegated to 2 tests, and 5-6 ODIs a year.

we are never gonna win ODIs against class opposition with 6 batsman, of which at least 2 are bound to implode each game. that leaves us with 4 batsman responsible for scoring 250 (realistically nowadays you need 275, and even then nothing is guaranteed). we cannot rely on pilot anymore in the OD game. his batting is terrible, no better than JO really. pilot has no more merit than JO to be in our ODI XI. mushy has proved that his keeping is not par. i do not expect that mushy's keeping will be as good as pilot's anytime soon. but he was no mug with the gloves. this is really an open and shut case.

in Test cricket, pilots experience and glovework means that he can stay there. he doesn't hurt as much as in ODIs. further playing a mushfiq in Tests would not really increase our winning chances in Tests. In ODIs, playing mushfiq will increase our winning chance, against any opposition, by at least 10%.

just as bashar's poor captaincy mattered little when we were minnows, pilots batting inability mattered little then, but matter much now. same with JO.

its time to give pilot the boot from the ODI team.

and i am beggining to have my first doubts about rasel now as well...but thats a different story.

CricFanBD
December 9, 2006, 09:39 PM
We need Mushfiq a lot in the ODI squad.

Kabir
December 9, 2006, 10:33 PM
I'm not a Pilot fan or anything, but I just want to point out that having seen Mushfiq's first batting evern in ODI, it's too early to say he can really bat. Yes, he played under pressure, nicely placed shots, nicely timed shots, won the match for us, etc. etc. etc. But, it's always important to watch him a couple of more times. Having said all these tells me that he should have the talent. It's now time to prove that he DOES have the talent. If he can prove it, bring him on. He MUST be tested for now.

Fazal
December 11, 2006, 10:27 AM
What a relief... I was really worried about Rahim's inclusion as he was dealing with some inconsistent (batting) performance.

He did very well with the keeping. We didn't missed anything. Actually it just showed what we were missing by giving Pilot uncontested slot for all these years. Batting wise, it should be a confidence builder for him.

I hope they continue to keep him in the ODI for a while and let him grow.