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TheWatcher
December 10, 2006, 09:11 AM
1. Habibul Bashar (Captain)
2. Shahriar Nafees Ahmed (Vice Captain)
3. Mohammad Rafique
4. Mohammad Ashraful
5. Mashrafee Bin Mortaza
6. Abdur Razzak
7. Aftab Ahmed
8. Kazi Shahadat Hossain
9. Syed Rasel
10. Farhad Reza
11. Sakib Al Hasan
12. Mushfiqur Rahim (Wicketkeeper)
13. Mehrab Hossain (Jr.)
14. Nadif Chowdhury

-TigerCricket (http://tigercricket.com/MediaDetail.aspx?MediaID=386)

IMO, this move is too early for both Nadif and Pilot.

Omio
December 10, 2006, 09:19 AM
ohh, thts really bad news that pilot out and its just before WC..
He shold play till WC and he is a good fighter and he save BD so many time from a big shame ..
so, pls dont say that it a good news for us..

Rubu
December 10, 2006, 09:19 AM
Nadif got his first call in natinal team. A good day for cricfanz, who has been waiting for it for a l-o-n-g time. she has become quite irregular lately, this will probably bring her back!

Miraz
December 10, 2006, 09:21 AM
This is defnitely good move to include Mushfiq. Now, I want the explanation for the omission from the squad. It should be a rest to expermient with Mushfiq.

We don't need Pilot against Scots. Now, I want Pilot to play in the world cup and officlially retire from ODI after that.

He served Bangladesh cricket for a long time. He deserves some respect to call it bye from ODI.

Ejaj
December 10, 2006, 09:22 AM
Right move from the selector. It will be the perfect series for young mushy

akabir77
December 10, 2006, 09:24 AM
well piot can play the domestic make 200+ can get a call back.

pilot fan
December 10, 2006, 09:25 AM
only 2 matches in the sereis what do we do

play our strongest team all 3 games


or give our fringe players a chance

pilot fan
December 10, 2006, 09:25 AM
sorry play our strongest team in both matches, not 3 sorry guys

Ahmed_B
December 10, 2006, 09:32 AM
Perhaps the selectors are trying to play 'Ashrafool trick' on Pilot by keeping him out of the team and see if he can score 200+ in sideline matches! ;)

mhferdaus
December 10, 2006, 09:56 AM
ICC is really not liking us progress especially after the first test scare against BD last april, so they are now trying to make sure we go down one level :D.

kalpurush
December 10, 2006, 12:02 PM
Pilot should be in the WC team due to his vast experience of international cricket.
Mushfiq is a good choice for the Comming series as well! Though, it might be tougher one for Mushfiq!!!

kalpurush
December 10, 2006, 12:05 PM
Perhaps the selectors are trying to play 'Ashrafool trick' on Pilot by keeping him out of the team and see if he can score 200+ in sideline matches! ;)


Boss...chagol er treatment ki shrigal er janno thik holo?!!:confused: :-D

sadi
December 10, 2006, 12:05 PM
Well I am pretty sure Pilot will play in the world cup. So it is just a matter of resting him and giving young Mushfiq some exposure more than anything else. I feel Nadif call in the national team is a little too soon but it is also probably just for the exposure. He won't be playing any games and will be with the team just to gain experience.

Mahmood
December 10, 2006, 12:09 PM
Inconsistency....

They could / should done these also...

1. Rest Bashar and let Shahriar lead
2. Rest Rafiq and let Enamul Play
3. Rest Masri and let Shahadat & Ruseel open

All Bashar, Rafiq and Masri are guranteed for WC just like Pilot is. Plus Bangladesh can even win against Scottland with the A team.

Kabir
December 10, 2006, 12:36 PM
I agree with Mahmood bhai. But I think the management isn't confident enough to make radical changes in the team. I don't know about Pilot though, coz you never know what the selectors are thinking. May be they're thinking Pilot is definitely in for WC, so lets just try out Mushfiq for a few more times. In that way, it's a good move. But Pilot should play in the WC and retire after that. It's a serious insult to a player to get dropped before WC, specially who has served the team for 13 years.

nasifkhan
December 10, 2006, 01:07 PM
Good Decision By selectors...... I hope Pilot once again prove everyone that he is still not replaceable at least for the WC.

Sam
December 10, 2006, 01:28 PM
Everybody is taking 'Rampant Lion' very lightly. Is not that called 'complacent'! We need to put our strong team with one or two inclusions of youngsters, which will not affect our strength and performance. We had a very bitter taste against this Team at their backyard. They have few good players, who play in the counties, like Dougie Brown in Warwickshire and <NOBR>Wellington; Gavin Hamilton in Durham and </NOBR><NOBR>Yorkshire; John Blain in Northamptonshire and </NOBR><NOBR>Yorkshire. </NOBR>
<NOBR>It will be a different game than the drum beat of Zim-BD-Zim, Zim-BD-Zim.</NOBR>

Protic
December 10, 2006, 02:24 PM
Yeah..right decision. We can test Mushfiq with the scotts..not in WC.
I would say Pilot can retire from ODI's after WC..but tests ..he can play..he can play better than Mushfiq.

shamster
December 10, 2006, 02:25 PM
I must say I was a Masud supporter and aginst his axing but Mushfiq looked so comfortable and a good leader behind the stumps very vocal. You can tell that boy going to lead that side one day. He played well with the bat too ... if he plays well against Scotland I can see more rest for Masud ...... if thats what you call it!.

AsifTheManRahman
December 10, 2006, 02:59 PM
just what i wanted - to try mushfiq out a bit more. with pilot out of the squad, he is sure to play both matches i guess.

btw, not sure what the selectors are thinking (i.e. whether pilot is in or out for the world cup), but albeit being a pilot fan, i wouldn't mind mushfiq to take his place sooner than anticipated if he performs.

about nadif, i really think it's too early. SH, MH, MR, FR and now NC - that's five new faces over the last couple of months! macaronni!

Fortuner
December 10, 2006, 03:35 PM
Is he the guy who's playin in some
English club?
guys temme somethin bout him...

Mohiul
December 10, 2006, 06:38 PM
Pilot is not out. He has been given an opportunity to rest. Read the article in bangladesherkhela.com.

http://www.bangladesherkhela.com/default.asp?strrefer=displayocr&straction=headline&iItemID=23161&iCategoryID=1

Omio
December 10, 2006, 06:43 PM
Is he the guy who's playin in some
English club?
guys temme somethin bout him...
no, he is not,,

BangladeshFan
December 10, 2006, 06:47 PM
how can team's success be sacrificed to respect an elderly player? WC is the most important tournament. pilot is a good fighter but everything has its end. i am all for taking Mush in the WC. he already showed his batting potential in england. so thankyou pilot for a great service now take a respectable retirement from international cricket.

Sovik
December 10, 2006, 07:07 PM
good move by the selectors. now they should test musfiq by sending him to bat in top order or may be at 5-6

Zunaid
December 10, 2006, 07:11 PM
Is he the guy who's playin in some
English club?
guys temme somethin bout him...

Nadif was chosen under the MCC's young cricket program dor the 2005 season and he did tremendously well.

And check this old thread:

http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=214498

Zunaid
December 10, 2006, 07:13 PM
great to see Nadif doing well. This should help his confidence immensely, which is his biggest limitation. He needs to believe in his own ability more.

This is what our erstwhile u-19 coach Richard McInnes had said after that post of mine over a year ago.

Miraz
December 10, 2006, 07:16 PM
Nadif was chosen under the MCC's young cricket program dor the 2005 season and he did tremendously well.

And check this old thread:

http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?p=214498


Zunaid bhai, Nadif enjoyed a great success with his bowling. Unfortunately he is under BCB list for flawed action and he is not bowling recently.

He is now more developing himself as a middle order batsman.

sadi
December 10, 2006, 10:01 PM
Looks like Pilot is mad because he got rested from the side. He decided to skip the celebration party after the whitewash according to Prothom-Alo.

Beamer
December 10, 2006, 10:40 PM
Looks like Pilot is mad because he got rested from the side. He decided to skip the celebration party after the whitewash according to Prothom-Alo.

Terrible attitude I must say. He is doing himself no favor. I doubt he will go to the WC with the team.

view360
December 10, 2006, 10:49 PM
Dav Whatmore wanted to include Nadif instead of Ashraful initially for the ZIM series but faced oppositions from the other selectors. But After mehrab has satisfied the selectors , the selectors have also decided to be bolder with pickintg up a new team. After all KM represents the old Bangladesh which used to play only to stay the full 50 years.

Murad
December 11, 2006, 01:40 AM
bangladesh jodi.. shob notun gulo ke niye.. wc khelte jai.. nirghaat loose korbe.. jemon india now suffering in south africa.. shob notun guloke niye.. gollla marse.. temni amader o hobe... in every series.. theres 2/3 new faces.. thats not nice... ora parle mone hoi pura team e notun face kore pelto....

AsifTheManRahman
December 11, 2006, 03:56 AM
hehe...bhai, amra jodi puranogulake niyeo khelte jai, tarporo west indies theke bedhorok maar kheyei firte hobe...kopale maar chara kisu nai, young team or buira team.

PoorFan
December 11, 2006, 04:26 AM
Looks like Pilot is mad because he got rested from the side. He decided to skip the celebration party after the whitewash according to Prothom-Alo.
<!--StartFragment -->Pilot just losing respect by his attitude, nothing else he he can gain.

Rihaad The Man
December 11, 2006, 11:09 AM
Pilot is not out , he has given rest . there's no need for him to play with the low ranks team for wasting the time :) .

HereWeGo
December 11, 2006, 11:25 AM
Pilot must be banned for a year due to disciplinary reasons. He cant be bigger than the game itself. His behavior is a disrespectful to his fellow mates. On any given day i shall pick mushfique over pilot. Screw experience. We all saw how he did in last WC. Even his captaincy in Zimbabwe shows that his experience is worth nothing.

sadi
December 11, 2006, 11:35 AM
I must give credit to the selectors for being bold and resting Pilot. It is one thing to rest him after a series is won but its a completely different thing to rest a player like him before a new series. I guess Pilot is getting the message and don't know how to react to it. If Mushfiq does well against Scotland, it will be very hard to drop him before the world cup and Pilot knows that.

FaridpurChicago
December 11, 2006, 11:46 AM
Pilot has vast experience, but experience of losing.

Pilot is a big fighter and campaigner, but all these fights are to stay 50 overs.

Do you want to have this approach even now? Have him then in the WC team. We'll have the same result as we had in previous WCs.

Thinking about his good farewell? Steve Waugh won WC of 1999 and was dropped for the next WC. He was retained (as captain) in the test side, earned a good respectful farewell from cricket. You can follow the same for him.

khalifa
December 11, 2006, 12:04 PM
Pilot must be banned for a year due to disciplinary reasons. He cant be bigger than the game itself. His behavior is a disrespectful to his fellow mates. On any given day i shall pick mushfique over pilot. Screw experience. We all saw how he did in last WC. Even his captaincy in Zimbabwe shows that his experience is worth nothing.

The assessment in the last WC failure investigation findings report was something along this line. I am just speechless with his attitude - who does he think he is?? I was speaking with a relative of mine last time I was in Dhaka, and he told me this Pilot guy maintains a very close relationship with all the reporters and tries to stir up things when anything goes against his status. I guess that won't work anymore....can you hear the the farewll bell Mr. Masud??

bd_cricket
December 11, 2006, 12:41 PM
Pilot was lucky in last ZIM away series. Since BCB did a mistake by not choosing a Vice Captain at that time and after Bashar's injury they had to give the captaincy to Pilot temporarily. Otherwise Pilot was dropped from the XI in that series.

I am a pilot fan like many of you. He has a lot of contribution to our cricket. But for the kind of ODI cricket being played in recent days, Pilot is not at all suitable for the ODI team because of his dismal batting performance. Just look at all the keepers in other teams. All of them can get chance to their respective teams just as batsmen and can serve as as top orders. To win a ODI game these days, you need a keeper who can bat very well as a regular batsman. In our team, these days, Pilot can only score or needed to score when we are at 76/5 and need to get a respectable total play full 50 overs. Pilot's bat only shines in those days and we lose the game anyway. Our team has given up that kind of attitude and we really need a batsman+keeper who can contribute to team's winning, not for just getting a respectibility in score. And Pilot is really incapable in that.

FaridpurChicago
December 11, 2006, 01:15 PM
Our approach to stick with Pilot didn't let anyone grow as Wicket keeper. Think about our performance in last WC when Vas got 4 wickets in first over including a hattrick (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6022976368613473123&q=bangladesh) and our current opening pair SN and Mehrab jnr.
All these changes happened as we were looking for it. We felt about changing our pacers led by Shanto and it's a different one now. But our wicket keeper didn't change as we never thought about it. We should have thought about it long before.

Being late is better than never. Let's think about it before it's too late. What we'll achieve from Pilot in WC? Mushfiq won't go any worse for sure.

mshareef1
December 11, 2006, 02:11 PM
Hi what are the chances of watching the Scotland vs Bangladesh matches on TV or on the Internet (Ready to PAY)

Thanks

Fazal
December 11, 2006, 03:30 PM
Very little info about Nadif in cricinfo.Is he an real all-rounder or just a batsman? Is he any good as a Slow left-arm orthodox bowler? Also if he plays, in which slot do you see he fits in (as a batsman)?

Anyone can give some more info about Nadif?

worldofad
December 11, 2006, 06:31 PM
ppl...i am skeptical abt BD and Scotland series....i know tht BD can win against Scotland with a moderate team...but bola jay na...sometimes BD loses it completely...r oita jodi hoy taile Scotland will have a good chance...so isn't it better to have a strong team against them? I mean we are not yet so good in cricket like india or pakistan or srilanka so I think its better to stick to our strongest selection and get as much experience as possible before WC. KI MONE HOY ???

TheWatcher
December 11, 2006, 06:33 PM
Very little info about Nadif in cricinfo.Is he an real all-rounder or just a batsman? Is he any good as a Slow left-arm orthodox bowler? Also if he plays, in which slot do you see he fits in (as a batsman)?

Anyone can give some more info about Nadif?
All I know is that he is banned from bowling in domestic leagues by BCB. I don't see how BCB can allow him to bowl in an international match. So if he is to play in an ODI, he has to play as a specialist batsman. In that case, management may consider to bench Ash.

However, I think it will be good enough experience for Nadif just to hang around the dressing room with national players.

Miraz
December 11, 2006, 06:44 PM
All I know is that he is banned from bowling in domestic leagues by BCB. I don't see how BCB can allow him to bowl in an international match. So if he is to play in an ODI, he has to play as a specialist batsman. In that case, management may consider to bench Ash.

However, I think it will be good enough experience for Nadif just to hang around the dressing room with national players.

TheWatcher, he is not banned for bowling. Before banning him, he informed BCB that he will nat bowl in the NCL and will only play as a batsman. That's why BCB haven't taken any action against him.

He is within the list of suspect action.

TheWatcher
December 11, 2006, 07:01 PM
TheWatcher, he is not banned for bowling. Before banning him, he informed BCB that he will nat bowl in the NCL and will only play as a batsman. That's why BCB haven't taken any action against him.

He is within the list of suspect action.
So, basically, BCB gave him a verbal ban instead of official one.

sadi
December 11, 2006, 07:59 PM
I don't know why everyone is so confident about winning this series very easily. True, we are far better team than what we once was but I think Scotland can surprise us any day. They have some very good players who play in the counties and can have a good game.

About Nadif, if Bangladesh wins the first game, we might see him playing in the second game just to get an idea what he brings to the table. It just doesn't make sense though. Tushar got dropped without playing because he had no chance of making it to the eleven but in the very next series, selectors choose to draft a new batsman instead of calling Tushar back.

worldofad
December 11, 2006, 11:35 PM
which channel is going to show the two ODIs live ?

mhferdaus
December 12, 2006, 12:01 AM
he was sla right? as a bowler I mean

Mav
December 12, 2006, 11:27 AM
Even if Nadif Performs very well with Scotland, He must not go to WC.

Giving Rest to Mashud wasnt necessary, rather selector should have asked that we need to see some runs from your bat. Mashud have to perform with Bat too.

B4 WC, there is no need to experiment , specially when its Scotland.
Rather set target for the bowler/batsman who are not performing much with bat/ball but are certain for WC, such as Mashud, Ashraful, Bashar.

pagol-chagol
December 12, 2006, 11:39 AM
Who is Nadif? His stat doesn't look impressive at all.

sadi
December 12, 2006, 12:50 PM
Nadif is doing really well this year. He was quite impressive in last year's corporate league also. I still think its a little too early for him eventhough he is very talented. I was talking to one of the former national team player this summer and he was really excited about Nadif. He predicted Nadif to play for the national team within a year at that time. Eventhough I was quite surprised to hear that then, it seems like he must have something in him that is not showing in the stats. Another super talented Rokon- Alok type player? I hope not.

Umar
December 12, 2006, 02:38 PM
i wanna see Tamim in the team !!

sadi
December 12, 2006, 02:48 PM
i wanna see Tamim in the team !!

Oh boy!!!

al Furqaan
December 12, 2006, 02:50 PM
sadi, nadif is yet another SLA right?

can he bat, and is he a RHB or a lefty?

sadi
December 12, 2006, 02:58 PM
Here is his cricinfo profile (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/56053.html).

He is a right handed batsman but used to bowl left arm spin. He doesn't bowl anymroe since his action was reported. He started off as a real promising allrounder but now he is a specialist batsman.

Zunaid
December 12, 2006, 03:00 PM
sadi, nadif is yet another SLA right?

can he bat, and is he a RHB or a lefty?

From our Players section (top menu)

Nadif Chowdhury (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/../games/profile.php?c=48)

Looks to be ambidextrous :)

TheWatcher
December 12, 2006, 04:53 PM
Yeah, Nadif is a right-hand-batsman.

http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/12/17/2005-12-17__sports02.jpg

pagol-chagol
December 12, 2006, 04:56 PM
Nice form and good balance. Stylish.

Fazal
December 13, 2006, 11:17 AM
http://www.lords.org/data/images/width150/nadif-chowdhury-35997.jpg
Atleast One Year Old Picture of Nadif Chowdhury

[from Lords.org]
Date of Birth: 21st April 1987
Birthplace: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Height: 6ft 1 inch
Cricketing role: Bowling all-rounder
Year joined YCs: 2005
Best batting: 90
Best bowling: 5-19

akabir77
December 13, 2006, 12:05 PM
dangg he is tall. Tall batsman? is there any famous one out there? zahir abbas, clive loyed, who else

abdulw11
December 13, 2006, 02:55 PM
Nice form and good balance. Stylish.

I wouldn't be so sure. You can't tell that from a picture. He might've fell one second after the picture was taken ;)

sadi
December 13, 2006, 04:25 PM
Looks like Rafiq is not playing in the first odi. Nadif has a possibility of making his debut in the second odi.

Link (http://www.prothom-alo.org/mcat.news.details.php?nid=MTY3NjU=&mid=OA==)