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pagol-chagol
January 7, 2007, 02:19 PM
Mr. Farooq, Charter a flight to Pak immediately, and use some of the money you got in the TV contract to get this guy. Get him before he changes his mind, or other competitors for his services arrive at his doorstep. Ain't no time to waste. This is a no brainer. This guy can help Shahadat and Mashrafee take hyperleaps. We are awefully thin/short in the fast bowling queue. Just his presence here, would jump start a pace bowling culture in Bangladesh.

al Furqaan
January 7, 2007, 02:24 PM
ditto, move you imbeciles who got us series after series with zimbabwe...you OWE us big time...

kalpurush
January 7, 2007, 02:38 PM
Manus-ta pagol holey ki hobe....budhi marattok!;) :D

kalpurush
January 7, 2007, 02:40 PM
Mr. Farooq, Charter a flight to Pak immediately, and use some of the money you got in the TV contract to get this guy. Get him before he changes his mind, or other competitors for his services arrive at his doorstep. Ain't no time to waste. This is a no brainer. This guy can help Shahadat and Mashrafee take hyperleaps. We are awefully thin/short in the fast bowling queue. Just his presence here, would jump start a pace bowling culture in Bangladesh.

And before the WC, if only for few weeks, would be a great help for our pacers.:-D

sadi
January 7, 2007, 02:42 PM
Manus-ta pagol holey ki hobe....budhi marattok!;) :D

Kame pagol, tale thik!!!

Mohiul
January 7, 2007, 02:56 PM
Mr. Farooq, Charter a flight to Pak immediately, and use some of the money you got in the TV contract to get this guy. Get him before he changes his mind, or other competitors for his services arrive at his doorstep. Ain't no time to waste. This is a no brainer. This guy can help Shahadat and Mashrafee take hyperleaps. We are awefully thin/short in the fast bowling queue. Just his presence here, would jump start a pace bowling culture in Bangladesh.


The idea is perfect for us but who will push our extra-active(???) BCB. He was already contacted by New South Wales and as his family is there he is surely going there I think. Still BCB must put a devoted extra-effort for getting him. At least make a proper knock

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/275556.html

Kabir
January 7, 2007, 03:53 PM
Pagol-chagol's nick should be changed to "Pagol-chagol Inversed". Right you are buddy...Waqar will be able to make our bowlers take "hyperleaps". The right direction to go for BD management right now, even before the WC.

roi
January 7, 2007, 05:12 PM
Who hell will come to BD at this time? I dont think he will come though we provide hime $100K /month. There is no night life in dhaka and most of the foreigners get bored with poor personal life. ANd at this unrested political situations, no body will come....even i will not go BD for any reason.

pagol-chagol
January 7, 2007, 06:41 PM
Who hell will come to BD at this time? I dont think he will come though we provide hime $100K /month. There is no night life in dhaka and most of the foreigners get bored with poor personal life. ANd at this unrested political situations, no body will come....even i will not go BD for any reason.

Well, then spend some of that big money on improving night life in Bangladesh. Ok, I got alterior motive there. Why don't they just fly some of the pacers to Waqar's guest room?

TheWatcher
January 7, 2007, 06:50 PM
Well, Waqar just did his hajj, so he should not be rushing back to night clubs (incase he had the habit of going there).

I think there is a good chance that he won't turn down the offer to coach a Test team that offers him a handsome salary.

Kabir
January 7, 2007, 06:57 PM
Roi: Where did you get the idea of night clubs? I just don't understand that. Night life in Bangladesh is very similar to that of Pakistan. I hope you were just kidding.

TheWatcher: Right on the money...he shouldn't turn down the offer given proper financial benefits. Also, I think Bangladesh is a great team for him to coach. First, it's close to home. Second, it's a new team, so lots to teach. And third, it's a place where he can practice his religion properly too (not that it'll be difficult in other countries, but he will have the facilities such as mosques).

Miraz
January 7, 2007, 07:14 PM
Well, I am against any coach from the sub-continent. Really have bad memories with them.

Waqar might be a great bowler but really haven't proved anything to become a great coach. I'd rather want to have anyone from Marshall, Roberts, Walsh, Reid or McDermot.

BangladeshFan
January 7, 2007, 07:15 PM
i agree, atleast they can put forward a reasonable proposal.though Bd needs a batting coach more than a bowling coach i feel.

gatekeeper
January 7, 2007, 07:24 PM
Who hell will come to BD at this time? I dont think he will come though we provide hime $100K /month. There is no night life in dhaka and most of the foreigners get bored with poor personal life. ANd at this unrested political situations, no body will come....even i will not go BD for any reason.

No need for nightlife. If the money is right everyone will come. How do you figure Pakistan is any better?

Foreigners in Bangladesh actually live like kings. And Waqar would definitely get extra special Khatir-Jotno.

mhferdaus
January 7, 2007, 08:13 PM
yup get him here quick ... why would uncle waqar need night life, he has got a wife.

SS
January 7, 2007, 08:26 PM
All these talks will go in vain, unless it reaches to the 'ears' of the appropriate person. Anybody can contact or has contact with BCB officials??

Tokyobreeze
January 7, 2007, 11:07 PM
All these talks will go in vain, unless it reaches to the 'ears' of the appropriate person. Anybody can contact or has contact with BCB officials??

His excellency Yazuddin...If he can hear ofcourse..apparently he can't:p

Kabir
January 7, 2007, 11:55 PM
I hope you guys know that BC is visited by quite a few notable BCB officials, and also some players of the BD team. Some things being said on BC do make a difference...regardless of how big a change it is.

AsifTheManRahman
January 8, 2007, 12:32 AM
Well, I am against any coach from the sub-continent. Really have bad memories with them.

Waqar might be a great bowler but really haven't proved anything to become a great coach. I'd rather want to have anyone from Marshall, Roberts, Walsh, Reid or McDermot.

agreed. i don't think a subcontinental coach is the answer. we'd be better off with someone from some other part of the world and with professional experience.

troy cooley baby!

Nasif
January 8, 2007, 01:18 AM
I don't think its a good idea to do too many things with too little time before the WC. It might be alright to get him for short 2/3 weeks for hints and tips in bowling on West Indian pitches. Putting him as full time bowling coach might change the teams integrity and balance of power (rift between whatmore and waqar).

All of these are hypothetical as I don't think Waqar will come to BD.

Hatebreed
January 8, 2007, 01:46 AM
If he even decides to come, it should be for a limited period, just to prepare us for the WC. We should get any help we can get. At least Waqar being an Asian should be able to get used to it here quickly and teach our bowlers a few tricks, since we don't have much time.

Farhad
January 8, 2007, 04:48 AM
Good thinking, Waqar would be a great help to the team. Bowling coaches have suited our team well until now, great time to bring in another specialist even if its for 2 months

Rabz
January 8, 2007, 05:39 AM
Well, I am against any coach from the sub-continent. Really have bad memories with them.

Waqar might be a great bowler but really haven't proved anything to become a great coach. I'd rather want to have anyone from Marshall, Roberts, Walsh, Reid or McDermot.

I second the notion...
No more sub continentals...
brings back bad memories...

Rather bring some West Indian for about a week or two to give some tips about thier pitch and how to approach the game...

Great bowler not necessarily mean great coach....

roi
January 8, 2007, 06:26 AM
Roi: Where did you get the idea of night clubs? I just don't understand that. Night life in Bangladesh is very similar to that of Pakistan. I hope you were just kidding.


Where did i mentioned about Night clubs? Is night life means night clubs only? There should be lot more things excluding night clubs/red lights area that you can enjoy with your friends n family in night time with out any fear or getting hijack!!The only night life i found in dhake is to go some chinese.....Thats it!

Special 1
January 8, 2007, 07:20 AM
Where did i mentioned about Night clubs? Is night life means night clubs only? There should be lot more things excluding night clubs/red lights area that you can enjoy with your friends n family in night time with out any fear or getting hijack!!The only night life i found in dhake is to go some chinese.....Thats is!

Thats sad.

Special 1
January 8, 2007, 07:22 AM
Waqar yunus ke anar konoi dorkar nai. he will have no affect on rasel. Shahadat maybe might improve a lil bit. Mashrafee will get injured trying new things.

roi
January 8, 2007, 10:14 AM
Waqar yunus ke anar konoi dorkar nai. he will have no affect on rasel. Shahadat maybe might improve a lil bit. Mashrafee will get injured trying new things.

Well said.....

pagol-chagol
January 8, 2007, 10:27 AM
Two issues raised here by BC members. #1- Racial profiling: You are basically saying that subcontinental players can not become good assistant coaches. #2 - Waqar is less experienced than Marshall, Roberts, Walsh, Reid or McDermot. Well, Waqar has worked with the youth subcontinental pacers his whole life, and many of them are much more talented than anything we have. Does anyone on this list have as much experience as him?

ahms
January 8, 2007, 11:16 AM
Are you ppl. talking about Malcolm Marshall of West Indies? But he is dead. Is there any other bowler name Marshall?

Tigers_eye
January 8, 2007, 11:33 AM
Are you ppl. talking about Malcolm Marshall of West Indies? But he is dead. Is there any other bowler name Marshall?
Ahms is correct. He is dead. Even a dead man seems to be better than Waqar to some :)
Short-term:
I'd prefer, any West indies fast bowler for a quick two week crash course on the pitches and how to take advantage over there. (Roberts)
Long-term:
Waqar is perfect. he will be supervised by our Uncle Dav.

arafath79
January 8, 2007, 11:47 AM
Bring Waqar as a bowling coach of our team for a month will be useful. If we see that our bowlers Mashrafe, Shahadat, Tapash , Sharif improved their bowling under the coaching of Waqar then we can make two years contract with him.

arafath79
January 8, 2007, 11:49 AM
I don't think its a good idea to do too many things with too little time before the WC. It might be alright to get him for short 2/3 weeks for hints and tips in bowling on West Indian pitches. Putting him as full time bowling coach might change the teams integrity and balance of power (rift between whatmore and waqar).

All of these are hypothetical as I don't think Waqar will come to BD.

Well we don't have to have him as a full time bowling coach at the begining but we can take a chance to put him our bowling till the WC07. After then he could be a permanent bowling coach of BD team.

Pundit
January 8, 2007, 12:06 PM
I think its widely acknowledged that he has done very well with the Pakistani pacers, and hence he will be a great asset to our team. Unlike Wasim, he does not play the politics game that much - he is a straight shooter.

So, why is Pakistan not extending his offer beyond the tests - simply because they do not want to waste money over and above what is needed. I think there pacers are set for the cup and Waqar's work will yield diminishing returns.

Also, he may have a "contract" in the making with New South Wales.

His beautiful wife lives in Australia, so, he may not be to keen on anything with Bangladesh beyond a short stint. But then again, BD is nearer to Aus, so that may be appealing. And since he is married and all that, statistically he may be less prone to visit your so called night clubs.

al Furqaan
January 8, 2007, 01:01 PM
His beautiful wife lives in Australia

waqqar gori beye korse???

FagunerAgun
January 8, 2007, 01:24 PM
I second the notion...
No more sub continentals...
brings back bad memories...

Rather bring some West Indian for about a week or two to give some tips about thier pitch and how to approach the game...

Great bowler not necessarily mean great coach....

I agree. Any bowling coach from WI and his tips will help our players in WC.:flag:

TheWatcher
January 8, 2007, 03:05 PM
"All I can say is that probably Woolmer felt a bit threatened by my presence."

- Waqar Younis at cricinfo (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/275712.html)
That does not sound encouraging. We sure don't want DW to feel that way towards any of his staff members.

Morpheous
January 8, 2007, 03:29 PM
Who hell will come to BD at this time? I dont think he will come though we provide hime $100K /month. There is no night life in dhaka and most of the foreigners get bored with poor personal life. ANd at this unrested political situations, no body will come....even i will not go BD for any reason.

Haha....funny. He will come to coach and NOT TO ENJOY NIGHT LIFE in dhaka. By the way they are not telling you to go Bangladesh coz u r not Waqar or any other big shot.....u r just a confused Bangladeshi who dont have any self identity. You rott wherever you want.

Special 1
January 8, 2007, 06:12 PM
Haha....funny. He will come to coach and NOT TO ENJOY NIGHT LIFE in dhaka. By the way they are not telling you to go Bangladesh coz u r not Waqar or any other big shot.....u r just a confused Bangladeshi who dont have any self identity. You rott wherever you want.

That was harsh

sunniath
January 8, 2007, 06:52 PM
i dont like coaches from the sub continent or west indies.these guys are horrible in people skills and motivating players.if we need a bowling coach,get someone from australia.we have ex aussie coaches and therapists who are now working for the australian national side.we can use this network to get a real good bowling coach if needed.for the wc,we can hire a local bowling coach as a consultant once we get there and use him to take advantage of the local conditions.

Pundit
January 8, 2007, 07:25 PM
Sunni...you are somewhat correct, I will agree. Especially Pakistanis - their people skills are fairly down their. WIs are a mixed bag...they are fine people, unless they have a loose screw or two.

BBGun...your opinion is somewhat expected. Maybe Madan Lal is a better alternative for you?

BTW, who was the Indian coach we once had...Amarnath?

Special 1
January 8, 2007, 07:30 PM
BBGun...your opinion is somewhat expected. Maybe Madan Lal is a better alternative for you?


Okay. Why is it somewhat expected may I know?
Madan lal would be better suited for Rasel.

AsifTheManRahman
January 8, 2007, 07:31 PM
yeah Lala Amarnath. shala icc trophy'r por lungi pechay dour marsilo. deshe ashe nai.

Special 1
January 8, 2007, 07:32 PM
yeah Lala Amarnath. shala icc trophy'r por lungi pechay dour marsilo. deshe ashe nai.

Was it LAla aar mahinder?

AsifTheManRahman
January 8, 2007, 07:33 PM
Mahinder, sorry. Lala was a relative, and I think he died.

Pundit
January 8, 2007, 08:04 PM
Lala A. was Amarnath's dad. I think he passed away 2 years back.

Kabir
January 8, 2007, 10:39 PM
Where did i mentioned about Night clubs? Is night life means night clubs only? There should be lot more things excluding night clubs/red lights area that you can enjoy with your friends n family in night time with out any fear or getting hijack!!The only night life i found in dhake is to go some chinese.....Thats it!

Sorry Roi, misread your post. Although the chances of being hijacked in most parts of Pakistan is much more than in Dhaka (yes, even for a star player), lets leave that aside...his effectiveness as a coach is a much important issue :)