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akabir77
February 6, 2007, 08:06 PM
Ok there r lot of discussion going on for a change on the top order. But I am just wondering what will happen if the change is made and Tamim Makes two big Golla's. Then we will have one opener who just started his career but droped for slow batting another one couldn't even started and now in big trouble (if he doesn't do well) .

So should BD do in that case for WC? cause after droping Jr for below performence there is no point taking him to WC and Tamim will not be ready (if doesn't do good if he gets a chance). Should we call back rajin or some one like rokon to open for us?

1. SN and Jr (go back as nothing happen)
2. SN and Tamim (Give him chances he deserves more then Jr as we like blazing openers then a proper one)
3. Sn and Slaeh (bring him back he is in good form)
4. Sn and Rokon (Bring him back he deserves a chance after good show after good show)
5. SN and Golla (Ok let him play at least one WC. No one is playing good anyway)

Kabir
February 6, 2007, 08:13 PM
I am highly against Tamim's inclusion in the first place, let alone taking him to the WC. But since he's been brought here, he SHOULD be given opportunities...otherwise it'll sound like a rubbish decision for the selectors to include him in the first place. Having said that, if he's given a chance or two, and shows some performance, he's an automatic inclusion for WC. But if he's not given a chance, then bring back Rajin. Mehrab jr. is not worth it. Rajin will probably make a better strike rate, if not stay at the center for longer.

So final verdict, if Tamim does well, he stays Mehrab goes. Otherwise, Rajin's in, Mehrab out. What a joke, either way Mehrab's out. What the hell am I talking about? :doh:

TheWatcher
February 6, 2007, 08:42 PM
Rokon- he is the kind of opener we need right now, someone who has enough experience for a big ocassion like WC, someone who scores his runs at a healthy rate, and someone who is showing a very consistent form with bat.

wiseshah
February 6, 2007, 08:48 PM
all we need is tamim's charisma, nothing else. otherwise mehrab's turtlish batting is okay, may be he was trying to play faster yesterday. i want a big change tomorrow. i wrote my last thread, Bd needs a change in the 2nd match. we should have tried new players, who are trying to prove themselves in the team and give some player rest like saqib, mashrafi, bashar.

we should have played in the 2nd match

Shahriar nafees
Tamim iqbal
Aftab Ahmed
Tushar Imran
Mohammad Ashraful
Mushfiq rahim
mohammad Rafiq
mohammad sharif
Tapash baisya
abdur razzaq
Shahadat Hossain
then 3rd match, we could have used our mashrafi, saqib, bashar. thats the way we can balance their team inclusion and make a competitive attitude between the players. now it seems we dont have enough choice. we cant wait for anything but winning now. bangladesh should follow Australia, they are correct in every sense of cricket.

AsifTheManRahman
February 6, 2007, 09:52 PM
Provided that Rajin is performing, I would pick him any day over mehrab or tamim, at least over the next year or two.

Imteaz
February 6, 2007, 10:05 PM
It is Very Difficult to Choose. Every Option has Both Positive & Negative Side. So, Considering both Side for all The Option, My Preference is Shahriar Nafees & Mehrab Hossain.
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Because Team Should not be Changed so Randomly.<O:p</O:p
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We Need Experience in World Cup. Considering that Javed Omer or Al Shahriar Can be an Option. Rajin also be Considered as Experienced Player but His Opening Experience is Less than Javed or Al Shahriar.

<O:p</O:pTeam Combination or Team Work is Important. In Past <?xml:namespace prefix = u1 /><u1:country-region u2:st="on">Bangladesh </u1:country-region>Faced Lots of Problems due to Random Team Change. When You Set a Player in Certain Position, Until & Unless he Score Ducks or Less Than 5 in Consecutive Matches You Must Allow him to Play at least 10-15 ODI or 5-8 Test. He can Perform very Bad. But in International Level Any Player Need Time to Adjust. International Level is Completely a Different Arena than Domestic Level. Even in English County Level Lots of Players Perform Well but are not be Allowed to Get Chance in International Level (Doesn't Mean All English International Players are Awsome and Play Very Well. It is Just an Example). So, If You allow Tamim Now there is No Guarantee that He will Perform. If he won't Perform You need that Change Again. Mehrab Played only 10 ODI. He Scored a single 50s. But I think He Needs Some More Time.

wiseshah
February 6, 2007, 11:13 PM
i think, in bangladesh new players always performs. look at alok kapali, ashraful, tapash, forhad reza, santo, Rajin, monju all performed in their early stages. so always go for fresh blood. trust me Tamim will be the best option.

layperson
February 6, 2007, 11:38 PM
Three votes so far for SN and Rajin and all three from the same school. Our school must be providing students with good logical and analytical abilities. :)

FaltuRidwanBhai
February 6, 2007, 11:42 PM
i am confused. i dont know. i had so much hope for mehrab. i finally thought bangladesh found its opening pair. but i dont think thats the case. i really dont want to see rokon back. golla is pathetic. but their form in domestic cricket is wonderful. even rajin did a good job. these people starts performing once they are out of the team. i dont know what bothers them to perform while they are in the team. that would make things so much easier.

Imteaz
February 7, 2007, 01:15 AM
i am confused. i dont know. i had so much hope for mehrab. i finally thought bangladesh found its opening pair. but i dont think thats the case. i really dont want to see rokon back. golla is pathetic. but their form in domestic cricket is wonderful. even rajin did a good job. these people starts performing once they are out of the team. i dont know what bothers them to perform while they are in the team. that would make things so much easier.

International Level is Completely a Different Arena than Domestic Level. Performing in Domestic Level Cannot Always Ensure the Performance in International Level.

karimjay.
February 7, 2007, 04:12 AM
What.. Give Tamim another chance? I didn't know he already had a chance..

cricket_king
February 7, 2007, 04:29 AM
I dont want tamim to end up like the others but i really wanna watch him play! :)
I've always wanted a gilchrist-type opener for bangladesh, and he seems like the perfect candidate.

khalifa
February 7, 2007, 09:14 AM
I dont want tamim to end up like the others but i really wanna watch him play! :)
I've always wanted a gilchrist-type opener for bangladesh, and he seems like the perfect candidate.

Experiences in age group cricket, couple of good performances in Dhaka Premier League......and Tamim and Gilchrist in the same sentence??

Wake up...please wake up:hairpull:

roaring tigerz
February 7, 2007, 11:42 AM
Rest Shahriar Nafees for 3rd ODI. Open with Mehrab Jr and Tamim. Let them compete for the opening spot.

Tigers_eye
February 7, 2007, 12:00 PM
Not for this series..
SN and NS. That should be our opening partner.
Shariar Nafees and Nasmus Sadat.

And for the WC I would take SN and NI. (Nafis Iqbal) for 100 please.

AsifTheManRahman
February 7, 2007, 12:26 PM
Three votes so far for SN and Rajin and all three from the same school. Our school must be providing students with good logical and analytical abilities. :)

really? who's the other culprit? Ishtiak (did i spell that right?)? :)

green_cat
February 7, 2007, 02:19 PM
my opinion is to give Tushar a chance as a opener. :ticking: becuase he is experienced, he generally bats well at #3 position. He used to be an opener before. He can do well in WC. He has the temparement and experience as well as good stroke all over the wicket..:)

akabir77
February 7, 2007, 02:28 PM
I think in WC you don't want to do any experiment.

That's takes out chance for tusher, tamim or any new people.

Realistically I think razin is the best man for the job. But I would love to pic three openers for the WC SN, Rajin and Rokon(backup) and put Rajin and SN.

Tigers_eye
February 7, 2007, 02:31 PM
Nafis Iqbal. He is not new and he is not slow. He has over come his injuries.

al Furqaan
February 7, 2007, 04:41 PM
Nafis Iqbal. He is not new and he is not slow. He has over come his injuries.

i might actually have to 2nd tigers eye on this...his career SR is low 55, but he's aggressive...if he's in from, that SR will hit 70

Fazal
February 7, 2007, 06:06 PM
I hoping to see how Nazmus Sadat does along with SN. Too bad its not going to happen though.

akabir77
February 8, 2007, 12:02 PM
i might actually have to 2nd tigers eye on this...his career SR is low 55, but he's aggressive...if he's in from, that SR will hit 70


How can u say he is inform?

TheWatcher
February 8, 2007, 12:16 PM
How can u say he is inform?
Good question. NI's List-A SR is 56.62 and U/19 level oneday SR is 59.08 (cricketarchive (http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/24/24334/24334.html)). So, according to al Furqaan, NI was out of form for most part of his career.

sadi
February 8, 2007, 12:27 PM
I don't think Nafis Iqbal is an option. He just recovered from the injury. Tamim is getting a chance in this game and will probably get a second chance on the 4th odi. One good innings will most likely ensure his inclusion in the World cup squad. If thats the case, then Rajin and Mehrab will fight for the other spot. It is quite a scary thought though to go with such an unexperienced opener in the world cup. I doubt he would be in the team if Nazmus Sadat was healthy.

Kabir
February 8, 2007, 12:30 PM
Okay, now that the team has been declared, and Tamim's in...what do you guys think? Kabir ja bole tai hoy :D

akabir77
February 9, 2007, 04:45 PM
this is the exact scenario i was afraid about.. Now what should we do...

People those who were impatient let be a lesson for you...

I think we need a lot of experienced Player in the WC. WC is not a place for young players to start in blazing fashion...

Farhad
February 9, 2007, 05:36 PM
Youve got a point there........But we couldnt choose Mehrab either. I say give Tamim another chance. If he fails.....Put in Rajin for the WC...Thats the only option we've got.

sislam2
February 9, 2007, 06:04 PM
We are talking about the openers (except tamim) who's average are not more than 25 at best (23 rajin) after 20 games (excpet jr) with a strike rate of less than 60. Why do i need them back.
my question was why weren't Reza experimented in the opening. After 10 innings he has an average 28 and a strike rate of 75. Which is still better than Ash after what 80 mathces he played.
So, what he isn't a regular opener. After all the forums i have read about giving mehrab a chance now i am reading all the forums saying it was a mistake. Then why make the mistake? And even if you do want to mistake, why didn't make the mistake with Reza. If he had played as an opener instead of mehrab he would have had 20 innings in his name. And by then we could see if needed some change or not. That means we could go with (tamim) if Reza failed. However, if tamim failed we could have had reza as an opener at least with 25 games of international experiences. And now we have bunch of guys with 10 games experience and a young guy Tamim with a lot of pressure on his shoulder before the WC.
Great job
I have read quite a few threads about Tamim instead of Mehrab already and after one game we have a decision to make on him. Why was he given a chance anyway, even playing four games before WC, how much could he possibly done in four games. Now what if he makes a 50 in next game, we are starting with a new pair of opener in WC. I as an untalented cricketer find it difficult to go through so many batting partners just think of Nafees, poor guy have to rethink his game plan every time he gets a new partner.
Poor job in selection.

Hatebreed
February 9, 2007, 06:36 PM
Tamim deserves another chance in the final match, but if he fails to perform then it was obviously a premature decision to bring him. They should bring back Mehrab, because slow runs is better than none. I'd also like Saleh on the WC squad. Tamim should play more first-class matches until such time he's considered ready.

sadi
February 9, 2007, 06:59 PM
This is the mentality I hate. Everyone was so high on Tamim when he wasn't playing and now that he failed in only one game, most people think he is a waste. Emni ki bole amra hujuge bangalee? Just because he was in squad, everyone wanted to play this guy eventhough we had a decent run with our opening partnership after a long long time. Many times a young player comes in the squad just to get some taste of international cricket and just becuase he is squad, he doesn't have to necessarily play. Right now, all we can do is damage control. We can just keep our fingers crossed and hope he scores some runs and be successful. We have already broken a successful opening pair in Nafees-Mehrab and don't know how to go back.

Miraz
February 9, 2007, 07:04 PM
From some of our members post, I am assuming it would have been great to give Atahar Ali another chance.

sunniath
February 9, 2007, 07:24 PM
i am still standing by my choice of nafees and mehrab.i am disappointed with most people's cricket sense on picking a rookie just before world cup and creating such a big hype as if he is the divine solution to your top order problem.i still dont get the idea of sending a hard hitter when we already have aftab at number 3 position.

BD Tigers
February 9, 2007, 07:30 PM
I am sure Tamim will play again tonite but as for WC, it still shud be Mehrab and Nafees unless they include golla/rajin in the squad.

arafath79
February 9, 2007, 07:49 PM
Rajin will be the second best choice in the opening slot if Tamim fails in the 4th ODI against Zim and in the tour of Bermuda.

arafath79
February 9, 2007, 07:50 PM
Tamim could stay in the WC squad as a 12th man :) if he doesn't perform well in those ODI matches.

fuzzy
February 9, 2007, 08:27 PM
all we need is tamim's charisma, nothing else. otherwise mehrab's turtlish batting is okay, may be he was trying to play faster yesterday. i want a big change tomorrow. i wrote my last thread, Bd needs a change in the 2nd match. we should have tried new players, who are trying to prove themselves in the team and give some player rest like saqib, mashrafi, bashar.

we should have played in the 2nd match

Shahriar nafees
Tamim iqbal
Aftab Ahmed
Tushar Imran
Mohammad Ashraful
Mushfiq rahim
mohammad Rafiq
mohammad sharif
Tapash baisya
abdur razzaq
Shahadat Hossain
then 3rd match, we could have used our mashrafi, saqib, bashar. thats the way we can balance their team inclusion and make a competitive attitude between the players. now it seems we dont have enough choice. we cant wait for anything but winning now. bangladesh should follow Australia, they are correct in every sense of cricket.
yes we should hav. u r right .

Farhad
February 9, 2007, 10:27 PM
Im pretty sure this is the obvious decision to make, but its also the best one: Pick Tamim for todays match, if he does remarkably well, only then should they choose him or the WC squad. Id say even a thirty wont do since they (selectors) waited so long to give him a chance. A 30(which isnt a bad score) wont show us anything, picking him for the WC squad based simply on one 30-40 score will be a pretty big risk. But then again, doing anything at this point will be a pretty big risk. The safest decision we could make at this point is to choose Rajin for the WC squad (which is also risky). Better to try out Mehrab/Tamim(if he fails) again after the WC is over.....

Ejaj
February 9, 2007, 10:59 PM
I dont know why Mehrab is replaced by Tamim. He may be a very slow batter, but, he surely has solid technic. Tamim may be a fiery batsman, has a very poor technic. He wont survive against quality attack. Mehrab gives the stability at the top order. Please bring him back.

zakirc
February 10, 2007, 02:35 AM
Here is an idea ..... How about having Mannan Bhuiyan and Abdul Jalil open for us? I wonder what the rest of the team might look like ...

cricketboy
February 10, 2007, 03:04 AM
Rajin in for Mehrab for WC.

BaCkYaRd_Tiger
February 10, 2007, 04:00 AM
bring rokon back, he is da 1 we really, he is experienced and powerfull cricketer. he is in good form as well. nafeez and Rokon,,, will be kool partners... wat do u think?