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Rubu
February 15, 2007, 05:28 PM
I know we had a very similar poll (actually several), but I wanted to do it again mainly because we have a fixed 15 players to choose from. Like it hate it, we have 15, and no more and no less. So, what do you want from these 15 for the game against india, our first game?

Rubu
February 15, 2007, 05:39 PM
Here is the team I choose (in batting order):

Nafees
Rajin
Aftab
Shakib
bashar
mushfiq
ashraful
rafique
mashrafe
rasel
shahadat

First off, I don't think Tamim is ready, he can be tried against barmuda, but not against the crutial game of india as that is our only chance to get to 2nd round. and as you have rightly guessed, no JO. No surprise in middle order except for the fact that ash need to come down the order. He is not in a good form, keep him in pavilion for as long as we can. then, the big surprise, no razzak. rafique stays ahead of him because of his experience and batting ability. and since india is good at playing spin, we need a 3rd seamer. even more, shahadat is not good as opening bowler. so, rasel should bowl his 10 over straight and shahadat should come as first change. if we need more spin, we have rajin and shakib one left and one right handed.

Mohiul
February 15, 2007, 05:50 PM
I think pitches in WI will be pacer friendly, I opted for 3 spinners & 2 pacers though.

1. Nafees
2. Tamim
3. Aftab
4. Sakib
5. Mushfiq
6. Habibul
7. Ashraful
8. Rafiq
9. Mashrafee
10. Razzak
11. Shahadat

TheWatcher
February 15, 2007, 05:56 PM
My team-

SN
Rajin
Tamim
Aftab
Bashar
Sakib
Mushfiq
Mash
Rafique
Razzak
Shahadat

If we bat first, there will be early ball movement because of high moisture. I don't want to risk Tamim in that kind of condition, so SN-Rajin open. They should try to play out the first ten overs, and then try to flay the opposition during the rest of the powerplay. If any of them fall during powerplay, Tamim comes to bat.

If we bat second, pitch should be dry, so send Tamim to open with SN.

Other batsmen come to crease according to match situation.

Miraz
February 15, 2007, 05:57 PM
My team-

SN
Tamim
Aftab
Bashar
Sakib
Ashraful
Mushfiq
Mashrafe
Rafique
Razzak
Rasel

Hatebreed
February 15, 2007, 06:15 PM
SN
Tamim
Aftab
Sakib
Bashar
Ashraful
Mushfiq
Masri
Rafique
Razzak
Shahadat
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Farhad
February 15, 2007, 06:24 PM
SN
Rajin/Tamim
Aftab
Bashar
Sakib
Ashraful
Mushfiq
Mash
Rafique
Razzak
Shahadat

2nd Opener still not certain....I'll have to wait for the 4 practice matches....

Sovik
February 15, 2007, 06:48 PM
Sahriar Nafees
Tamim Iqbal
Sakib al Hasan
Aftab Ahmed
Habibul Bashar
Mushfiq Rahim
Mohammed Rafiq
Masrafee Mortoza
Abdur Razzak
Syed Rasel
Sahadat Hossain

babubangla
February 15, 2007, 06:57 PM
Here is my Playing 11 !! :) :) :)

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i278/babubangla/Playing_11.gif

cricman
February 15, 2007, 07:02 PM
A 4-3-3 won't get you far in the WC, Didn't France and Italy use a 4-5-1 formation?

sadi
February 15, 2007, 07:45 PM
My lineup:

SN
Tamim
Aftab
Ashraful
Bashar
Sakib
Mushfiq
Mashrafee
Rafique
Rasel
Shahadat

PoorFan
February 15, 2007, 07:59 PM
My team for India, precondition is how Tamim plays in practice match. Otherwise Rajin in Tamim place.
<!--StartFragment -->
Sahriar Nafees
Tamim Iqbal
Aftab Ahmed
Sakib al Hasan
Habibul Bashar
Mushfiq Rahim
Mohammod Ashraful
Masrafee Mortoza
Mohammed Rafiq
Syed Rasel
Sahadat Hossain

Kabir
February 15, 2007, 08:05 PM
Seriously, this is one of the best representations (models) of playing technique, positioning, and reasoning that I've seen till today. Actually makes a lot of sense...not kidding. Show this to anybody who understands football (I don't know many people who don't), they'll know the idea behind it.

Great stuff BabuBangla bhai.

Here is my Playing 11 !! :) :) :)

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i278/babubangla/Playing_11.gif

PoorFan
February 15, 2007, 08:22 PM
Seriously, this is one of the best representations (models) of playing technique, positioning, and reasoning that I've seen till today. Actually makes a lot of sense...not kidding. Show this to anybody who understands football (I don't know many people who don't), they'll know the idea behind it.

Great stuff BabuBangla bhai.
Exactly what I thought.

cricketboy
February 16, 2007, 01:23 AM
The practice matches will help us to select who will open Rajin or Tamim and also who will be our 2nd pacer. I wouldn't pick Rasel, he will be hammered by India and Srilanka. Golla is my 12th man for his fielding ability. We should also always play both spinners as spin is our strength.

Kabir
February 16, 2007, 01:41 AM
Good thing you brought up the practice match issue. In the practice match, I would make sure that BOTH Tamim and Rajin can play, with Tamim opening with SN, and Rajin coming at the end of the middle-order (possibly at number 7). Tamim's participation is cruicial in the match against NZ, as he will get tested against a strong opponent early on...much needed after the long lineup of BD/Zim matches!!!

djuice
February 16, 2007, 02:57 AM
Wow..O votes for JO and tapash so far

karimjay.
February 16, 2007, 03:40 AM
Nope.

Tapash has a vote.

I like this guy. Expensive, but takes vital wickets.

karimjay.
February 16, 2007, 03:41 AM
Whereas Rasel..well he's a decent bowler but still has to work himself out. I think hes still too raw

And Shahadat, he's quick but expensive. Hardly takes wickets. However..I admit when he does take wickets, he takes vital ones.

tiger1000
February 16, 2007, 08:41 AM
A 4-3-3 won't get you far in the WC, Didn't France and Italy use a 4-5-1 formation?

it is not 4-3-3
its 4-4-2 diamond

tiger1000
February 16, 2007, 08:42 AM
in the west indies the pitches are good for pace bowlers not so for spin bowling

sar2005
February 16, 2007, 11:23 AM
SN
Tamim
Aftab
Sakib
Bashar
Ashraful
Mushfiq
Masri
Rafique
Razzak
Shahadat
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Exactly My team, even with the batting order :)
Many friends prefer to have 3 pacers instead of 2 spinners. There is no question about Rafiq. And Razzaq? I believe Razzaq would be better option than any of our pacers (other than Mashrafi), no matter if the wicket is pacer friendly or spinner.

sar2005
February 16, 2007, 11:32 AM
Excellent work!!!!!!!!!!

SN - Attacking
Tamim - Attacking
Aftab - Mid-field (attacking)
Saqib - Midfield (left wing attacking)
Ashraful - Midfield (right wing attacking)
Bashar - Midfield (center midfield)
Rafiq - Deffender (attacking)
Mashrafi - Deffender (attacking)
Razzak - Deffence
Shahadad - Deffence
Mushfiq - Keeper


Here is my Playing 11 !! :) :) :)


http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i278/babubangla/Playing_11.gif

roaring tigerz
February 16, 2007, 12:20 PM
I think nine of the starting eleven are pretty assured of their places for the first game. I think Tamim will be opening for sure.

The big question remains if we go in with one or two spinners. If we go in with one spinner, who drops out? And if we play a third seamer, then who plays?

My starting XI

Shahriar Nafees
Tamim Iqbal
Aftab Ahmed
Mohammed Ashraful
Sakibul Hasan
Habibul Bashar
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mashrafee Mortaza
Abdur Razzak
Shahadat Hossain
Syed Rasel

TheWatcher
February 16, 2007, 03:03 PM
Nam kharap howar voye keu dekhi JO-re kono vote deina :)

Mohiul
February 16, 2007, 03:57 PM
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This poll up until now shows that most of the BC members will opt for my playing eleven. Out of 30 votes, JO got a golla, Tapash got 2, Rajin got 8 & Rasel got 12. These four players are the least popular among all the 15 players.

If you not opt for this 4 least popular players, the playing eleven that you will get will be same to mine.

BangladeshFan
February 16, 2007, 03:59 PM
hmmm seems like starting 11 is similar for nearly everyone, the rest 4(rajin, rasel, taposh, javed) is distant by quite a margin.

i would go with tamim, SN as openers. I dont think rajin should be the opener, he is too slow in power play and he is not that good to be an anchor. SN is the ideal man to play as anchor, as he can accelerate when needed and also put bad balls away. Rajin can be tested in the middle order as he can bowl and good fielder though unless ashraful is completely out of form it is hard for rajin to get a place as aftab and sakib is out of his reach and bashar is captain.

I think Bd needs to change their batting order according to situation, also they should preplan about bowling order and how to put a brake on Ind/Sl batsman.
This team has potential but needs to be handled correctly.

al Furqaan
February 16, 2007, 04:50 PM
glitch in members voting:

mushfiq didn't get unanimous votes, but SN did.

i guess SN is our keeper?????

al Furqaan
February 16, 2007, 04:53 PM
on a more serious note, the selection was quite easy for 10 of the 11 positions.

only the 2nd opener slot was a tough decision between rajin and TI.

i ended up with TI which could obviously backfire. but heres why i chose TI over rajin.

TI getting a quickfire 20 would definitely unsettle the indians, at least a little bit. getting a solid start is of utmost necessity.

if TI gets our cheaply (less than 40) which is almost guaranteed, i would not want boom boom aftab to come in at #3, i would prefer ashraful, followed by sakib, than either bashar or aftab or even perhaps mushfiq.

TheWatcher
February 16, 2007, 05:02 PM
glitch in members voting:

mushfiq didn't get unanimous votes, but SN did.
Nah, it's not that, SN is the only member of cricketboy's playing eleven :p

karimjay.
February 16, 2007, 08:49 PM
Nafees
Tamim
Aftab
Sakib
Bashar
Ashraful
Musfiq
Rafique
Mortaza
Rasel
Hossain

Rabz
February 16, 2007, 09:11 PM
SN
TI
Aftab
Sakib
Bashar
Ash
Rahim
Rafiq
Mashrafee
Rasel
Shahadat

I'll go for 2 spinners. Rafiq and Sakib. India is very strong on spins, so need of playing an extra spinner against them.
Plus the WI supposedly pacer freindly.
I'll go for Mashree and Rasel as my opening pair and Shahadat coming at first change.
Aftab can play the role of 6th bowler if needed with his gentle little medium pace.

On the batting side,
Id rather give Tamim a chance. If we have decided to fly him all the way to WI, we should give him the chance to play and hopefully prove himself and every one of us right. But it all depends on the practise games as well. if he fails to, Rajin would be my second option before JO.

Im also very tempted to send Ashrafool at no 4, followed by Sakib and Hablu. Forms aside, he is still our best bestman and if he is purely there for that reason, he should not bat at no 4. But as most of the cases, he is not doing himself any favour and that middle order positioning is a real headache.

TheWatcher
February 16, 2007, 09:25 PM
Oh, I see, sensible dared to vote for JO, congrats :clap:

Thunder
February 17, 2007, 12:32 AM
Wheather west indies a pacer friendly wicket or not, we must play both Rafique and Razzaq to give us the best chance. Rajin should not be selected in opening coz he is no better than JO but he may come in middle order to rotate the strike only if Ashraful fails. Also Rasel may come in place of Shahadat if he fails to impact on the first match. The playing eleven is simple:

In terms of batting order-

Shariar Nafees
Tamim iqbal
Aftab ahmed
Saqibul hasan
Ashraful matin/Rajin Saleh
Habibul bashar
Musfiqur rahim
Masrafe mortoza
Mohammad rafique
Abdur razzaq
Shahadat hossain/Syed Rasel

TheWatcher
February 17, 2007, 11:51 AM
Fazal's playing eleven has only four members- JO, Rajin, Tapash, and Rasel. As usual, funny Fazal :p

Mohiul
February 17, 2007, 11:52 AM
Fazal bhai only voted for JO, RS, TB & SR
cricketboy only voted for SN

So, actually 42 valid vote casted.

So, what do you will call them? ineligible voter???:):) :)

Miraz
February 17, 2007, 12:12 PM
Fazal's playing eleven has only four members- JO, Rajin, Tapash, and Rasel. As usual, funny Fazal :p

It's now easy to find out the playing XI. ;)

11 players are left in the squad. :)

FaltuRidwanBhai
February 17, 2007, 05:52 PM
i think bangladesh crickete board should come here and justify the inclusion of golla. in what basis they took golla in the team will always remain a big mistery.

sunniath
February 17, 2007, 06:17 PM
i wasnt in favor of tamim's selection.but since he is in the team,we should take the risk of playing him.otherwise,what is the point him selecting him.

Murad
February 17, 2007, 06:51 PM
tamim will be in the team..no matter what.. hes gonna boom boom india....

roaring tigerz
February 17, 2007, 07:34 PM
I am really really hoping the selectors have the foresight to play a third pace bowler. Our spinners might have been our strength against Zimbabweans and Kenyans. But Srilanka & India will simply tear us apart, if we are thinking of dishing out 30 overs of left arm spin.
Sakib as our sole 5th bowling option also could be a little dicey. His only exposure to top class opposition came in the Champions Trophy last year. He bowled a total of 7 overs in the two matches against Sri Lanka and West Indies. His temperament when bowling against top class batsmen is totally untested. This makes the decision not to bowl Aftab and Ashraful regularly in the practice games all the more puzzling.

Beamer
February 18, 2007, 12:53 AM
They better put Ashraful at no.4 against India. Assuming Harbhajan/kumble/tendulkar will be operating the middle overs, he is the only proven batsman we have who can tick the scorecard against quality spinners during those overs. He can nudge, push and improvise to send the ball in the gaps better than anyone we have. His problem is he thinks too much of himself sometimes. Like out of the blue, against the run, he will attempt a horrible reverse-pull or something real low percetage silly shot to welcome in his downfall.

Imteaz
February 19, 2007, 07:14 AM
1. Shahriar Nafees
2. Rajin Slaeh
3. Aftab Ahmed
4. Md. Ashraful
5. Habibul Bashar
6. Sakib Hasan
7. Mushfiqur Rahim
8. Md. Rafique
9. Mashrafee Mortaza
10. Abdur Razzak
11. Shahdat Hossain

Considering WI Wicket Have Been Changed in Recent Time. Those Help Spinners and Most of The Time Turned in to Slow and Low Track in Second Innings. Otherwise Tapash will Play Instead of One of Our Spinners that should be Selected According to Their Performance in WI Soil.

Fazal
February 19, 2007, 10:15 AM
Its too late to say who I want in the final 11.

I am kind of disappointed with the final 15, so I am in no mood selecting the final 11. I think we will be unable to select the best 11 form this 15. Rahim & Tamim’s inclusion was kind of bold and kind of gamble (for Tamim only). Besides that, there is nothing to be excited about. I think we are one short of one more batsman and one more batting all-rounder.

How ever I can share with you what I don't want to see in the final 11:

1. Tamim, Aftab and Ashraful batting one after another in #2, #3, #4
2. Gullu, Rajin both playing in the final 11 at the same time.
3. Shahadat, Rasel, and Ash playing in the final 11 at the same time.
4. Demoting Sakib from #4 batting slot before he fails two consicutive times (including warm-up)
5. Giving Ash more than one more free pass in the whole tournament.

Orpheus
February 19, 2007, 11:41 AM
couldn't agree more with warfaze, and instead of Taposh I would want Rasel as our bowler but then he weakens the batting...also I would choose razzaq over rafiq that also weakens our batting....

Regarding Tamim, i read about a lot of big scores but never seen him play so can't really say whether it's a good idea to choose him over Rajin. Also seeing various scorecards, you would think selectors gonna debut Tamim before Mehrab but I guess they are stuck on the idea that you should have one defensive openener... Rajin strongly preferred unless Tamim does something magical in the practice.

Orpheus
February 19, 2007, 11:47 AM
3. Shahadat, Rasel, and Ash playing in the final 11 at the same time.


How are these three related in any way? Mind explaining... Your cricketing thought process astounds me more and more as I read them (never actually paid attention before). you are just one funny kid.. whether you intend to or not.

Orpheus
February 19, 2007, 11:51 AM
How does Mushfiq not get 100%? BC members are just Silly to say the least. Who is gonna keep? Mashrafee

Fazal
February 19, 2007, 01:01 PM
How are these three related in any way? Mind explaining...

I can explain it... but whether you will get it or not thats the real question.

Here's how its related.... sacrificing too much in batting strength... and thats means fewer all rounders in the final 11... after-all its the batting that usually wins the game in ODI most of the time.

SMHasan
February 19, 2007, 01:22 PM
I think more changes in the batting line up are coming. If you read todays prothom alo then you will see both Saqib and Ash talked about the batting position. Saqib said he will bat anywhere if necessary and Ash said that he likes number 5 position.

Orpheus
February 19, 2007, 01:40 PM
I think more changes in the batting line up are coming. If you read todays prothom alo then you will see both Saqib and Ash talked about the batting position. Saqib said he will bat anywhere if necessary and Ash said that he likes number 5 position.
Actually this line up
3 Bashar
4 saqib
5 Ashraful
6 Aftab
7 Mushfiq

make a damn strong middle/middle-lower order.

Having Mushfiq at 7 denies early exposure to lower order... giving much value to position 6. In later part of the game, Mushfiq rotates (he is good at taking singles) and aftab clears... Gem

And fazal the only two players that are considered not an allrounder are Shahadat and Rasel... they are very different bowlers. It's always better to have Genuine bowler or genuine batsman than average all rounder like Mahmud. Ashraful genuine batsman, shahadat genuine bowler... Rasel is the only useful left handed 3rd seamer....and hence the weakest link. But unfortunately we don't have any better fast bowlers.... choosing either of Tapash/Rasel - very debatable..

SMHasan
February 19, 2007, 01:48 PM
Actually this line up
3 Bashar
4 saqib
5 Ashraful
6 Aftab
7 Mushfiq

make a damn strong middle/middle-lower order.


I think this will the line up in the world cup. Saqib might come down the order. Dave Whatmore's comment indicated that we might have a change in the WC. I prefer Aftab to come at 6 as you said and Ash at 4 leaving Bashar and Saqib to follow.

Orpheus
February 19, 2007, 01:55 PM
yeah sakib at 7 also makes the team pretty strong.... and not a bad idea at all. Initially that was my team...Mushfiq is a actually a top order caliber batsman.

Sauron
February 19, 2007, 02:21 PM
My selection mostly matches the general trend except for, I will omit Ash for sure.

Rajin will be my choice over Ash. Rajin cannot be much worse that Ash of late. Rajin can also be useful will the ball.

Batting
1. & 2. SN & Tamim --> Open. Tamim tries blasting indian opening bowlers. Either perishes early or gets BD a good head start.

3. Rajin --> One down. Consolidates if necessary. Lets Nafees bat freely while he guards one end.

4. Aftab --> Boom Boom

5. Habul --> does what he can

6. Sakibul --> just one Boom or, if possible, Boom Boom

7. Mushfiq --> does what he can without being nervous. If he clicks, he can do some quality batting without pressure. But if he doesn't click, no big harm done. He could be very capable middle-order bat eventually, but in WC, I don't think he should be a top order casualty and increase pressure on the team.

8. Rafiq, 9. Mash, 10. Razzak, 11. Shahadat


Bowling
Rafiq, Razzak, Mash, Shahadat --> 10 Overs each
Sakibul --> 6 or 7 Overs
Rajin --> 1 or 2 Overs
Aftab --> 1 or 2 Overs


Umpires
On field & 3rd --> ICC selected
4th Umpire --> Javed Omar

Orpheus
February 19, 2007, 04:39 PM
My selection mostly matches the general trend except for, I will omit Ash for sure.

I am sorry but your team doesn't follow the general trend. It follows loser's trend. Not only is your selected 11 messed up but your order is just an inexplicable random list.

Sauron
February 19, 2007, 04:54 PM
I am sorry but your team doesn't follow the general trend. It follows loser's trend. Not only is your selected 11 messed up but your order is just an inexplicable random list.

Thanks wise-@ss. That's why it's my list, not yours. Btw, don't let the under-lining fool you, it's not an email address ;)

layperson
February 19, 2007, 04:59 PM
There is no need to change Aftab's position from 3. He is doing a good job there and would only get better. I would like to see :
Sn and Rajin Open, followed by Aftab,Sakib,Ashraful, Habibul and mushfique. The bowlers can come after that.

Orpheus
February 19, 2007, 05:00 PM
Thanks wise-@ss. That's why it's my list, not yours. Btw, don't let the under-lining fool you, it's not an email address ;)

Oh damn, you ruined it for me. I thought you wanted me to email you. Nobody gave you valentine's e-card... bechara!

layperson
February 19, 2007, 05:00 PM
Just a random question to Sauron and Orpheus, Do you know each other personally outside the virtual world ?

Orpheus
February 19, 2007, 05:02 PM
Just a random question to Sauron and Orpheus, Do you know each other personally outside the virtual world ?

No we are virtual sex partners. You wanna join?

layperson
February 19, 2007, 05:19 PM
No we are virtual sex partners. You wanna join?

Ohh I am sorry to disappoint you Orpheus but I dont swing that way.

I was just curious because you always seem to be after each other's posts'.

Fazal
February 19, 2007, 10:07 PM
And fazal the only two players that are considered not an allrounder are Shahadat and Rasel... they are very different bowlers. It's always better to have Genuine bowler or genuine batsman than average all rounder like Mahmud. Ashraful genuine batsman, shahadat genuine bowler... Rasel is the only useful left handed 3rd seamer....and hence the weakest link. But unfortunately we don't have any better fast bowlers.... choosing either of Tapash/Rasel - very debatable..

And there is the problem my friend.

1. Mahmood is no longer playing and we have much better choices now a days than him in that area.
2, Ashraful is a genuine batsman, but the problkem is...he is no-longer producing for last 2 years. And as he is just a batsman who can no longer produce for a while, there is no way he can compensate in other area (like bowling similar to Sakib, Mehrab, Reza, or even Razzak etc or Wicket keeping like Rahim). Even player like Rajin can overcome his batting short-coming with his bowling. But there is nowhere to hide when a off-form genuine batsman fails time and time again. Its very hard to justify too long for single-talented off-form players than multi-talented players in an ODI team.

Therefore, in my opinion, adding three players like Shahadat, Rasel and Ash in the same 11 is like adding too many dead woods in the batting order, and therefore creating an un-balanced team by weakening the batting too much.

Orpheus
February 20, 2007, 01:29 AM
Even player like Rajin can overcome his batting short-coming with his bowling.LOL! so can Ashraful.

so we are replacing shahadat, rasel and ashraful with allrounder Tushar, allrounder Reza and allrounder Rana. Great!

Guys here is FAZAL'S TEAM

Tamim
Rajin
Aftab
Sakib
Tushar
Reza
Bashar
Mushfiq
Mashrafee
Rafiq
Rana

Rana will open the bowling with Mashrafee with Sakib 1st change. Rafiq will operate in the middle with Rajin.. and aftab and Tushar will bowl at the death.
Mash - 10
Rana - 10
Sakib - 10
Rajin - 5
Rafiq - 10
Tushar - 3
aftab 2

BD-Shardul
February 20, 2007, 01:58 AM
My Playing XI:

SN Ahmed
Rajin Saleh
Aftab Ahmed
Sakib Al Hasan
Mushfiqur Rahim
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzaq
Shahadat Hossain
Sayed Rasel

Fazal
February 20, 2007, 06:57 AM
LOL! so can Ashraful.
so we are replacing shahadat, rasel and ashraful with allrounder Tushar, allrounder Reza and allrounder Rana. Great!


You call replace whatever you want.....but I suggest you to take the logic 101 course again....

" Not wanting Shahadat, Rasel, and Ash playing in the final 11 at the same time" does not mean "dropping all the three at the same time"





LOL! so can Ashraful.

Good try ....but the problem is.....may be Ash is multi talented... but his other talent is no longer is cricket related .... and thats why the team management no longer try his below par other skills i.e. his bowling any more.



Guys here is FAZAL'S TEAM
.....


So you are trying to be a Mind reader along with your 'Fotune teller' skills then? I hope you don't quit your day job yet....Or are you trying to be a 'Shob Janta Bura' ? :-D

So can you please tell us what is Chinaman's as well as Sorry's team? We are waiting....

Tigers_eye
February 20, 2007, 10:41 AM
Classic thread.
Virtual dholai.

Sauron
February 20, 2007, 10:56 AM
No we are virtual sex partners. You wanna join?

Really? All this while you were thinking it was me??? Gosh! Unsafe ... unsafe. Sorry for the rude awakening, but gotta break it to you ... it wasn't me. Put a sock on it and get back to your genious team selection.

Orpheus
February 20, 2007, 11:22 AM
Really? All this while you were thinking it was me??? Gosh! Unsafe ... unsafe. Sorry for the rude awakening, but gotta break it to you ... it wasn't me. Put a sock on it and get back to your genious team selection.

Typical bi*** response.

Fazal - post not good enough for a reply. Typical penpenani without meaningful input.

Sauron
February 20, 2007, 11:35 AM
Just a random question to Sauron and Orpheus, Do you know each other personally outside the virtual world ?

নারে ভাই, এইসব ইঁচড়ে পাকা পোলাপাইনের সাথে পরিচয় করার সময় নাই। এই ছোকড়া সব বিষয়ে মাতামাতি করে, এই জন্য মাঝে মাঝে একটু হালকা প্রতিবাদ করি, এই আর কি। দেখলেন না, কার না কার সাথে ইন্টারনেটে যা তা করে, আর কল্পনা করে আমার কথা। এইটা তো পরিস্কার যে ছেমড়া আমাকে একটু অন্যভাবে দেখে। কিন্তু তাই বলে তার এই ফ্যান্টাসি তো চলতে দেওয়া যায়না। সেইজন্য তার মনে একটু দুঃখ দিয়ে হলেও সত্যটা আস্তে করে ভাংলাম।

Fazal
February 20, 2007, 02:39 PM
Typical bi*** response.

Fazal - post not good enough for a reply. Typical penpenani without meaningful input.

ya ... we know..we know ..good try..Mollar Dor Moshgid porjonto... ar Orpheus-er dhor 'Forget Cricket' porjonto...:-D

Orpheus
February 20, 2007, 07:10 PM
Dear Fazal,

Let me make one post just so you don’t have a false sense that you actually made an intelligent post. Usually I find people with good sense of humor to be intelligent; I was a bit disappointed seeing your replies.

In your post, you are simply making out of context illogical blank statements that adds nothing to the whole picture. I have a feeling you yourself do not know what that picture is. Anyone can say “oh we don’t want Rasel, he can’t neither bat nor take wickets” or “it has been 10 years since this player made any runs” but you have to defend your position by stating an alternative. Who would you like to have beside these players and why? What should be the composition of the whole team and why? Then, if your points make any sense, one will actually be motivated to reply to counterattack or defend.

Your thoughts on team selection are scattered in all over the place in two/three different threads. It doesn’t take a fortune teller to actually sum up what you have said in various posts. There’s was a point to that team….Name one player you don’t like from that list. Yup Exactly!!

In this world cup, our target is to win every single match. Now in a previous thread you mentioned you want Tushar in place of Ashraful. Reasons were already given why that is not a bright idea yet you keep on coming up with comical ideas such as “Shahadat, Rasel, and Ashraful” shouldn’t be on the team because they make the batting weaker. Shahadat and Rasel are there to make the bowling stronger, not batting. Even then you still failed to come up with an alternative. Who then? As for Ashraful vs Tushar: Let’s take a look at a simple filter:

Ashraful’s average in ODI matches that Bangladesh won (26 matches): 33.12
Tusher’s average in matches Bangladesh won (3): 8.66

Ashraful’s average in ODI matches Bangladesh lost (59): 16.62
Tusher’s average in matches Bangladesh lost (33): 15.78

Success rate: Ash: 29.5% (His winning average shows, his contribution was significant in winning)
Success rate: Tusher: 08.1% (his winning average shows, his contribution was NIL)

I think it is insulting to Ashraful that we are comparing him with Tushar. Ashraful’s superiority over Tushar is so obvious in his batting technique that it doesn’t need stat to backup yet you keep going on and on and on!

Just give me a favor, and list your playing 11 (you are allowed to go outside WC 15). Write something that is actually relevant to this thread…

layperson
February 20, 2007, 08:03 PM
Dear Fazal,

Let me make one post just so you don’t have a false sense that you actually made an intelligent post. Usually I find people with good sense of humor to be intelligent; I was a bit disappointed seeing your replies.

In your post, you are simply making out of context illogical blank statements that adds nothing to the whole picture. I have a feeling you yourself do not know what that picture is. Anyone can say “oh we don’t want Rasel, he can’t neither bat nor take wickets” or “it has been 10 years since this player made any runs” but you have to defend your position by stating an alternative. Who would you like to have beside these players and why? What should be the composition of the whole team and why? Then, if your points make any sense, one will actually be motivated to reply to counterattack or defend.

Your thoughts on team selection are scattered in all over the place in two/three different threads. It doesn’t take a fortune teller to actually sum up what you have said in various posts. There’s was a point to that team….Name one player you don’t like from that list. Yup Exactly!!

In this world cup, our target is to win every single match. Now in a previous thread you mentioned you want Tushar in place of Ashraful. Reasons were already given why that is not a bright idea yet you keep on coming up with comical ideas such as “Shahadat, Rasel, and Ashraful” shouldn’t be on the team because they make the batting weaker. Shahadat and Rasel are there to make the bowling stronger, not batting. Even then you still failed to come up with an alternative. Who then? As for Ashraful vs Tushar: Let’s take a look at a simple filter:

Ashraful’s average in ODI matches that Bangladesh won (26 matches): 33.12
Tusher’s average in matches Bangladesh won (3): 8.66

Ashraful’s average in ODI matches Bangladesh lost (59): 16.62
Tusher’s average in matches Bangladesh lost (33): 15.78

Success rate: Ash: 29.5% (His winning average shows, his contribution was significant in winning)
Success rate: Tusher: 08.1% (his winning average shows, his contribution was NIL)

I think it is insulting to Ashraful that we are comparing him with Tushar. Ashraful’s superiority over Tushar is so obvious in his batting technique that it doesn’t need stat to backup yet you keep going on and on and on!

Just give me a favor, and list your playing 11 (you are allowed to go outside WC 15). Write something that is actually relevant to this thread…



Given that you post weird stuff most of the time but this time I am with you.
You are not the only one. I too could not find any correlation between not playing rasel, shahdat and ashraful in the same match. The reasons Fazal showed made absolutely no sense to me either.

Navarene
February 20, 2007, 08:15 PM
Dear Fazal,

As for Ashraful vs Tushar: Let’s take a look at a simple filter:

Ashraful’s average in ODI matches that Bangladesh won (26 matches): 33.12
Tusher’s average in matches Bangladesh won (3): 8.66

Ashraful’s average in ODI matches Bangladesh lost (59): 16.62
Tusher’s average in matches Bangladesh lost (33): 15.78

Success rate: Ash: 29.5% (His winning average shows, his contribution was significant in winning)
Success rate: Tusher: 08.1% (his winning average shows, his contribution was NIL)

I think it is insulting to Ashraful that we are comparing him with Tushar. Ashraful’s superiority over Tushar is so obvious in his batting technique that it doesn’t need stat to backup yet you keep going on and on and on!


Spot on!

Comparing Ash with Tushar in terms of cricketing ability can be paraphrased as "bujhe na kichu, bichi re koy lichu"! :shh:

Orpheus
February 20, 2007, 10:35 PM
Given that you post weird stuff most of the time

you are weirder...man you are a queerdo...

layperson
February 21, 2007, 01:35 AM
you are weirder...man you are a queerdo...

One more post that does not even warrant a reply so I will leave it at that.

zakirc
February 21, 2007, 02:22 AM
Great representation.

However, I can't agree Mash in a Central Defender position. He is definitely offensive, both in bowling as well as batting. Also from the few matches of Shahadat that i watched, I am not sure if he is capable of defensive position at all.

So basically, Mash replaces Tamim (And tamim is out of my squad).
JO gets in the team and plays Mash's position. His Excellent fielding and defensive batting should make him the automatic choice for central defender :d.

Shahadat and Saqibul may swap position, although I think both are equally offensive, I think Saqibul has more defense in him through his bowling.

Ash is our wildcard, every team needs one and a wing position is where he should be. And despite all the criticism, I don't think anybody with a sane mind would leave him out of matches against the big guns.


Here is my Playing 11 !! :) :) :)

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i278/babubangla/Playing_11.gif

zakirc
February 21, 2007, 02:28 AM
you are weirder...man you are a queerdo...

If shahriyar is queerdo, I am zueerdo :D ..... I selected JO for my team (That most people will disagree with), I have always been in favor of him for the partnering SN.

Yet even a zueerdo like me wants Ash as the wildcard who can turn a match in our favor if it is one of those EIDs that we get.

Shehwar
February 21, 2007, 02:54 AM
My playing eleven against India:

Shahriar Nafees
Rajin Saleh
Aftab Ahmed
Saqibul Hasan
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mashrafe Mortaza
Mohammad Rafique
Tapash Baisya
Abdur Razzak
Javed Omar (12th Man)

There you go...I think thats the best eleven we can come up with...Rajin knows how to cope with the new ball very well..He is technically very fluent and also very good at shot making and can be used as a utility bowler...thats why I picked him over the other openers..As for Tapash...I think he is smarter than the other two pace bowlers...He is someone who uses his head and has had a terrific tour last time in West Indies when we played that ODI series...That wud be in the back of his mind which would give him added confidence plus his batting ability is always a plus..In this eleven we bat all the way to number 10...Even Razzak knows how to handle the willow....dont think there wud be too many raised eye-brows about the other selections..cheers..

bengaltiger
February 21, 2007, 05:22 AM
tamim will be in the team..no matter what.. hes gonna boom boom india....

hehe let's hope so...

RazabQ
February 21, 2007, 02:52 PM
As myself: Orphy, strop trying to get cricketing sense out of Fazal's post and enjoy them for what they are - whimsical observations that bring laughter or smiles to our face. I gave up trying to find substance in his reasoning a while ago - the guy's just a prankster and he'll consistently one-up you with his zingers. :)

As Mod: Let's tone down the - albeit light-hearted - barbs shall we? This can rapidly degenerate into genuine mud-slinging.

Fazal
February 21, 2007, 03:59 PM
Dear Fazal,

Let me make one post just so you don’t have a false sense that you actually made an intelligent post. Usually I find people with good sense of humor to be intelligent; I was a bit disappointed seeing your replies.


Please feel free to show your intelligence.


In your post, you are simply making out of context illogical blank statements that adds nothing to the whole picture. I have a feeling you yourself do not know what that picture is. Anyone can say “oh we don’t want Rasel, he can’t neither bat nor take wickets” or “it has been 10 years since this player made any runs” but you have to defend your position by stating an alternative. Who would you like to have beside these players and why? What should be the composition of the whole team and why? Then, if your points make any sense, one will actually be motivated to reply to counterattack or defend.

This thread is not about who you would like to have instead of the current team. This thread is about who you want in the final 11(from the current team). Its too late any way to discuss who you want in the final 15, isn't it?



Your thoughts on team selection are scattered in all over the place in two/three different threads.
Sure it is, if you pick and choose from different thread from different time frame it will be.


It doesn’t take a fortune teller to actually sum up what you have said in various posts. There’s was a point to that team….Name one player you don’t like from that list. Yup Exactly!!


What do you mean by the list. The final 15? Then here are some: Gullu, Ashraful and kind of luke warm in case of Rajin. But as I said, its too late to complain, as they are already in the final 15.


In this world cup, our target is to win every single match. Now in a previous thread you mentioned you want Tushar in place of Ashraful.


Don't miss quote out of context. I wanted Tushar to play couple of games in the last tour instead of Ash playing all the games against ZIM. Thats doesn't mean, I was hoping Tushar will be selected in the final 15. I never comaplined when Tushar was not selected. Basically he blewed his own chance. Why should I complain? Its not that I am a blind fan of Tushar. I am for anyone who can justify his inclusion by some performance.


Reasons were already given why that is not a bright idea yet you keep on coming up with comical ideas such as “Shahadat, Rasel, and Ashraful” shouldn’t be on the team because they make the batting weaker. Shahadat and Rasel are there to make the bowling stronger, not batting. Even then you still failed to come up with an alternative. Who then?


Yes its really comical how you twisted my word. I hope you understand the difference between

a) “Shahadat, Rasel, and Ashraful” shouldn’t be on the team because they make the batting weaker"

and

b) Shahadat, Rasel, and Ash playing in the final 11 at the same time.

"at the same time" is missing from the miss-quoted statement.





As for Ashraful vs Tushar: Let’s take a look at a simple filter:

Ashraful’s average in ODI matches that Bangladesh won (26 matches): 33.12
Tusher’s average in matches Bangladesh won (3): 8.66

Ashraful’s average in ODI matches Bangladesh lost (59): 16.62
Tusher’s average in matches Bangladesh lost (33): 15.78

Success rate: Ash: 29.5% (His winning average shows, his contribution was significant in winning)
Success rate: Tusher: 08.1% (his winning average shows, his contribution was NIL)



Hmmmm.... spent too much time comparing Ash with Tushar. But guess what...the problem is he (Tushar) is not in the team. And this thread is about your 11 from the current team. Doesn't it make more sense to compare him with the selected batsman in the team? OH .... I see it will burst the baloon.:-D




I think it is insulting to Ashraful that we are comparing him with Tushar. Ashraful’s superiority over Tushar is so obvious in his batting technique that it doesn’t need stat to backup yet you keep going on and on and on!


Oh .... comparing Ash with Tushar is a sin then. Well Its not me, you, my friend,who comitted the crime then. What else is a crime then? Should we call Sir Ashraful from now on..:-D



Just give me a favor, and list your playing 11 (you are allowed to go outside WC 15). Write something that is actually relevant to this thread…


Here are few of the options:

1. SN, Tamim, Aftab, Sakib, Bashar, Rahim, Rajin, Rafiq, Mash, Razzak, Shahadat
2. SN, Tamim, Aftab, Sakib, Bashar, Rahim, Rafiq, Mash, Razzak, Rasel, Shahadat
3. SN, Tamim, Aftab, Sakib, Bashar, Rahim, Rafiq, Mash, Taposh, Razzak, Shahadat
4. SN, Tamim, Aftab, Sakib, Bashar, Rahim, Rafiq, Mash, Taposh, Razzak, Rasel
5. SN, Rajin, Aftab, Sakib, Bashar, Rahim, Rafiq, Mash, Taposh, Razzak, Rasel
6. SN, Rajin, Aftab, Sakib, Bashar, Rahim, Rafiq, Mash, Taposh, Razzak, Shahadat
7. SN, Rajin, Aftab, Sakib, Bashar, Rahim, Rafiq, Mash, Razzak, Rasel, Shahadat
8. SN, Gullu, Aftab, Sakib, Bashar, Rahim, Rafiq, Mash, Taposh, Razzak, Shahadat
9. SN, Rajin, Aftab, Sakib, Bashar, Rahim, Ash, Rafiq, Mash, Razzak, Shahadat
10. SN, Tamim, Aftab, Sakib, Bashar, Rahim, Ash, Rafiq, Mash, Razzak, Shahadat

These all satisfy my critetia:

"avoiding Shahadat, Rasel, and Ash playing in the final 11 at the same time".

btw actually referencing players out-side the final 15 is actually non-relevant to this thread, ....that no-one but only you did.

Fazal
February 21, 2007, 04:11 PM
Spot on!

Comparing Ash with Tushar in terms of cricketing ability can be paraphrased as "bujhe na kichu, bichi re koy lichu"! :shh:

Thats a low blow Navarene on Orpheus, beacuse no one but Orpheus comapred Sir Ash with Tushar in this thread.

akabir77
February 21, 2007, 04:27 PM
according tot he pole till now the playing 11 should be as following

<table x:str="" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 243pt;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="324"><col style="width: 99pt;" width="132"> <col style="width: 48pt;" span="3" width="64"> <tbody><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt; width: 99pt;" x:str="Shahriar Nafees " height="17" width="132">Shahriar Nafees </td> <td style="width: 48pt;" x:num="" align="right" width="64">64</td> <td class="xl22" style="width: 48pt;" x:num="0.98460000000000003" align="right" width="64">98.46%</td> <td style="width: 48pt;" x:num="" align="right" width="64">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Aftab Ahmed " height="17">Aftab Ahmed </td> <td x:num="" align="right">63</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="0.96919999999999995" align="right">96.92%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Habibul Bashar " height="17">Habibul Bashar </td> <td x:num="" align="right">63</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="0.96919999999999995" align="right">96.92%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">3</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Mashrafee Mortaza " height="17">Mashrafee Mortaza </td> <td x:num="" align="right">63</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="0.96919999999999995" align="right">96.92%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">4</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Shakibul Hassan " height="17">Shakibul Hassan </td> <td x:num="" align="right">62</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="0.95379999999999998" align="right">95.38%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Mushifqur Rahim " height="17">Mushifqur Rahim </td> <td x:num="" align="right">62</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="0.95379999999999998" align="right">95.38%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">6</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Mohammad Rafique " height="17">Mohammad Rafique </td> <td x:num="" align="right">56</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="0.86150000000000004" align="right">86.15%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Shahadat Hossain " height="17">Shahadat Hossain </td> <td x:num="" align="right">55</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="0.84619999999999995" align="right">84.62%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">8</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Mohammad Ashraful " height="17">Mohammad Ashraful </td> <td x:num="" align="right">51</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="0.78459999999999996" align="right">78.46%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">9</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Abdul Razzak " height="17">Abdul Razzak </td> <td x:num="" align="right">51</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="0.78459999999999996" align="right">78.46%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">10</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Tamim Iqbal " height="17">Tamim Iqbal </td> <td x:num="" align="right">49</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="0.75380000000000003" align="right">75.38%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">11</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Syed Rassel " height="17">Syed Rassel </td> <td x:num="" align="right">26</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="0.4" align="right">40.00%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">12</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Rajin Saleh " height="17">Rajin Saleh </td> <td x:num="" align="right">21</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="0.3231" align="right">32.31%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">13</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Tapash Baisya " height="17">Tapash Baisya </td> <td x:num="" align="right">6</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="9.2299999999999993E-2" align="right">9.23%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">14</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" x:str="Javed Omar " height="17">Javed Omar </td> <td x:num="" align="right">4</td> <td class="xl22" x:num="6.1499999999999999E-2" align="right">6.15%</td> <td x:num="" align="right">15</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
SO the batting order should look like this
Shahriar Nafees
Tamim Iqbal
Aftab Ahmed
Shakibul Hassan
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Mushifqur Rahim
Mashrafee Mortaza
Mohammad Rafique
Abdul Razzak
Shahadat Hossain
12 man
Rajin Saleh
<table x:str="" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 99pt;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="132"><col style="width: 99pt;" width="132"><col> <tbody></tbody><tbody><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"></tr></tbody></table>

Tigers_eye
February 21, 2007, 04:39 PM
To whom it may concern:

Rasel, Shahadat and Ash can't be in the playing 11 at the same time. I am in favor of this motion. You don't put out these lambs infront of a pack of Hyenas. Because of my pledge I am refraining myself of belittling Ash and wish him and the BD team all the best.

Fazal
February 21, 2007, 04:45 PM
To whom it may concern:

Rasel, Shahadat and Ash can't be in the playing 11 at the same time. I am in favor of this motion. You don't put out these lambs infront of a pack of Hyenas. Because of my pledge I am refraining myself of belittling Ash and wish him and the BD team all the best.

Atlast someone is getting it.:-D


of Fazal's post and enjoy them for what they are - whimsical observations that bring laughter or smiles to our face. I gave up trying to find substance in his reasoning a while ago .

I knew its comming from you .... specailly after revealing the existance of your little one. But I was expecting something better though.:smug:

RazabQ
February 22, 2007, 02:51 AM
I knew its comming from you .... specailly after revealing the existance of your little one. But I was expecting something better though.:smug:Nah, I hadn't even thought of that. :) It was more a case of noting a tone of exasperation in Orphy's postings, and recalling my own past experiences in trying to reason with you on cricketing terms. The word "fan" after all is derived from "fanatic" and I think the latter term is more applicable to most Bangladeshi cricket followers.

BTW, you really need to start utilizing BC's built in spell checker :)

Orpheus
February 22, 2007, 09:09 AM
BTW, you really need to start utilizing BC's built in spell checker :)

Haha! razab is comming with little one... wow didn't even realize that. DIRTY!!!

Razab bhai, Fazal is too smart for me man. Arguing with him is like arguing with your girlfriend, you try to bring some sense into her but she brings all the senses out of you. But the problem here might be that this one is uglier and not beddable - so no punishment :) yay baby yayyyy!!!

Fazal
February 22, 2007, 03:23 PM
BTW, you really need to start utilizing BC's built in spell checker :)

May be I do. ...... But then again is it any good? Then how come....:-D

As myself: Orphy, strop trying to get cricketing sense out of

BangladeshCricket
February 22, 2007, 03:53 PM
It's a very tough choice between Rajin/Tamim and Tapash/Rasel.
1) SN- batting
2) Tamim/Rajin -batting(if Rajin part time bowling)
3) Aftab -batting
4) Saqib- Allrounder
5) Bashar- batting
6) Ash -batting
7) Musifq -batting/wk
8) Mash -bowling+ tail-end batting
9) Rafique -bowling+ tail-end batting
10) Razzaq/Tapash/Rasel
-?? Tough call cuz it's WI pitch and both SL and Ind are good @ spin,
Tapash can be handy with bat, Razzaq sometimes
11) Shahadat- bowling

Only batting can save us in WC as with bowlilng, on our good day we can restrict both SL and Ind 270, otherwise with our bowling strength, and their current form, I see 300. Our batters will decide the match for us. Unfortunately, BCB,coach, selectors are dumb enough not to bring a batting coach when we are consistent failure in that department.

djuice
February 23, 2007, 02:26 AM
according tot he pole till now the playing 11 should be as following
SO the batting order should look like this
Shahriar Nafees
Tamim Iqbal
Aftab Ahmed
Shakibul Hassan
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Mushifqur Rahim
Mashrafee Mortaza
Mohammad Rafique
Abdul Razzak
Shahadat Hossain
12 man
Rajin Saleh


The only problem I see is, given the WI pitch with almost "zero " assistance for spinners I am not sure if we should be playing both rafiq and razzak. I know this might sound crazy but using an extra specialist bowler/batsmen might be a better choice.
The dielemma is we absolutely need Rafiq's six'es in the slog and Razzaq can be devastating if he can get some help from the pitch.( most likeley more than tapash even in the WI pitch). But as I see it since #2, #3, & Ash might falter early and cheaply we need rajin. So hy not play "Rajin" instead of "Ash".
This is getting really confusing.....:hairpull:

djuice
February 23, 2007, 02:28 AM
Unfortunately, BCB,coach, selectors are dumb enough not to bring a batting coach when we are consistent failure in that department.

Are you serious...????:doh: :doh: :doh: