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TheWatcher
February 16, 2007, 01:01 PM
Dates: 17-19 Feb 2007
Venue: BKSP Ground-2 (http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Grounds/4/2235.html)
Weather: Forcast for Dhaka (http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/tenday/BGXX0003?from=36hr_topnav_business)

Squads:

BCB Academy:
Jahurul Islam (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/55944.html)
Junaid Siddique (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/55946.html)
Nasiruddin Faruque (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/56057.html)
Marshall Ayub (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/228349.html)
Nadif Chowdhury (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/56053.html)(Cpt)
Mahmudullah Riyad (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/56025.html)
Saghir Hossain (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56158.html)(WK)
Suhrawadi Shuvo (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/56138.html)
Mosharraf Hossain (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/56017.html)
Dolar Mahmud (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/scotland/content/player/56209.html)
Ziaur Rahman (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/56167.html)
Mohammad Shahzada (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/player/56020.html)

England A-team:
Nick Compton (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/player/11718.html)
Will Jefferson (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/player/15490.html)
Michael Yardy (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/player/23523.html)(Cpt)
Michael Carrberry (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/10656.html)
Steve Davies (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/player/12450.html)(WK)
Alex Loudon (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/player/16388.html)
Matt Prior (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/player/18675.html) (WK)
Tim Bresnan (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/player/9310.html)
Stuart Broad (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/player/10617.html)
Adil Rashid (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/player/244497.html)
Graham Onions (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/player/18389.html)
Tom Smith (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/player/21447.html)

Links for Scorecards:
CricketArchive (http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Seasons/BDESH/2006-07_BDESH_England_A_in_Bangladesh_2006-07.html) | Cricinfo (http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2006-07/ENG-A_IN_BDESH/SCORECARDS/) | ECB (http://www.ecb.co.uk/england/england-a/) | TigerCricket (http://tigercricket.com/default.aspx) | BBC Sport (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/scorecards/default.stm)

Miraz
February 16, 2007, 01:13 PM
I still rfemember the Bangladesh U 19 Vs England U 19 series.

I hope England A gets the same treatment from the Academy boys. :)

Tigers_eye
February 16, 2007, 01:14 PM
Lets spin them out of Savar.

Over-rated....
Our next target....

Lets go BD, lets go!!

series
February 16, 2007, 03:04 PM
Inshaallah Bcb will win this series and take the revenge of natwest series

Sumon77
February 16, 2007, 04:01 PM
will cricinfo cover ball by ball?

Murad
February 16, 2007, 04:27 PM
i dont understand why the hell they dont take Enamul Hoque Jr to any of these team.. i think they dont consider him as a good bowler anymore..

they should have taken him to the Academy Squad...

i just dont understand what the hell BCB is upto..

TheWatcher
February 16, 2007, 04:37 PM
I still rfemember the Bangladesh U 19 Vs England U 19 series.

I hope England A gets the same treatment from the Academy boys. :)
In my case, this match reminds me more about the England Vs Bangladesh-A match where Nafees Iqbal made a century and called Giles and Batty ordinary spinners :-D

That was also a three day practice match in BKSP.

TheWatcher
February 16, 2007, 04:48 PM
Chill buddy. This academy team is for the practice match only, Bangladesh A-team that will play in the main series is not selected yet.

Quote:
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i dont understand why the hell they dont take Enamul Hoque Jr to any of these team.. i think they dont consider him as a good bowler anymore..

they should have taken him to the Academy Squad...

i just dont understand what the hell BCB is upto..
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Farhad
February 16, 2007, 08:17 PM
:waiting: I cant take it anymore!

Rabz
February 16, 2007, 08:22 PM
are we getting any coverage for the game??

Farhad
February 16, 2007, 08:22 PM
Believe me guys....The rest of the world will take more notice of this series than all of the national BD teams matches in the last six months combined....But then again, that feat can be achieved if just 5 non-bangladeshi people check the scorecard.

wiseshah
February 16, 2007, 08:34 PM
i dont understand why the hell they dont take Enamul Hoque Jr to any of these team.. i think they dont consider him as a good bowler anymore..

they should have taken him to the Academy Squad...

i just dont understand what the hell BCB is upto..


i agree with you. BCB is playing weird. All of a sudden Enamul hauque Jr is out of favor. whats wrong with BCB? he is one of the finest bowler of the country. In my opinion, he is even better than Md rafiq. another neglected player is Manjar rana, he is a real match winner, wherever u set him, he will perform for the team, inspite of his lack of ability.

cricketboy
February 16, 2007, 08:42 PM
All eyes on these youngster. Very important series for them to do well and try to get in the national team, especially for Nadif and Junaid.

TheWatcher
February 16, 2007, 09:01 PM
England-A lost a man to injury even before the tour officially started, Danish-born Amjad Khan's aspiration for English colors takes a stumble-


The England A tour party were reduced to 12 fit men yesterday when the decision was taken to send Amjad Khan home. The Kent fast bowler had arrived in Bangladesh with a swollen knee after attending the Dennis Lillee academy in Chennai.

The selectors back home will now have to find replacements for two vacancies caused by the selection of Ravi Bopara for the World Cup (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=2P4HMWYZLBBMJQFIQMFSFGGAVCBQ 0IV0?xml=/sport/2007/02/15/scengl15.xml) and the loss of Khan, who flies back to England today to seek medical advice as a precaution before the start of the championship season.

- Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/sport/2007/02/17/scrand17.xml)

Bugz
February 16, 2007, 10:26 PM
What time does it get underway?

akabir77
February 16, 2007, 10:31 PM
Any Video link of the match?

akabir77
February 16, 2007, 10:32 PM
i dont understand why the hell they dont take Enamul Hoque Jr to any of these team.. i think they dont consider him as a good bowler anymore..

they should have taken him to the Academy Squad...

i just dont understand what the hell BCB is upto..

Don't get angree they r hiding him from them...He surely will play for A

DeshPremik
February 16, 2007, 11:01 PM
Any update on this match yet?

series
February 16, 2007, 11:03 PM
Whaen will the match start?

akabir77
February 16, 2007, 11:15 PM
I think its delayed for fog...

pial
February 17, 2007, 12:16 AM
In my case, this match reminds me more about the England Vs Bangladesh-A match where Nafees Iqbal made a century and called Giles and Batty ordinary spinners :-D

That was also a three day practice match in BKSP.

Also, this remainds me the England A tour before the test status, Bangladesh national team faced England A at Chittagong (1999?), where Habibul made a centuray and late in the day Sabbir Khan hited a few four and sixes. That 3 day math ended in a draw.

Bugz
February 17, 2007, 01:21 AM
So, whats happening?

gatekeeper
February 17, 2007, 01:39 AM
Update, need updates, scores, please......

sar2005
February 17, 2007, 04:02 AM
Even tc does not have an update :(

Rabz
February 17, 2007, 04:26 AM
Any Video link of the match?

you must be kidding there, right?
vdo link for Eng A vs Academy match..

are bhai,
ajkal BD match er ee kono online update pawa jai na..
ar apni dekhi...

Kabir
February 17, 2007, 05:04 AM
Sydney bhai, can't agree on that. BD match er shob kichui pawa jaye, but tokhon pawa jaye na when the authority isn't in BD's hands, and the hosting nation doesn't take proper steps in telecasting such matches. But yes, it is probably too much to ask for England-A vs. Academy :)

I wouldn't be surprised if there's no coverage of the England-A vs. BD-A matches either. Any info on that?

karimjay.
February 17, 2007, 06:04 AM
Whats cricinfo going to tell us.

Couldnt get anyone into BD to cover the series:S

series
February 17, 2007, 06:51 AM
India is gonno be really a tough component. With Ganguly in form India is really going to be tough.

Miraz
February 17, 2007, 07:10 AM
The first day play should be over by now. It is indeed a very poor service from both TigerCricket and Cricinfo.

bapzmania
February 17, 2007, 07:55 AM
any update...

Miraz
February 17, 2007, 08:44 AM
England A is piling up runs.

England A327/4 Over -91; Compton 152*, Prior 82*, Jefferson 58; Riyad 2/42

Miraz
February 17, 2007, 08:49 AM
I am impressed with the way England A quickly adjusted with the condition. SLA's were quite ineffective against them.

Academy team is full of domestic performers and all-rounders. I hope they will do something better with the bat.

nsd3
February 17, 2007, 09:25 AM
It would be embarrassing if Eng A can't beat this Academy side. Eng A is compared at par with BD A team. Academy team should fight but Eng A is regarded superior here. So looking at run pileup by Eng A is acceptable.

TheWatcher
February 17, 2007, 10:32 AM
Bangladesh A-team has been announced-

Mehrab Hossain Jr
Jahurul Islam
Nasiruddin Faruque
Tushar Imran (Cpt)
Marshal Ayub
Nadif Chowdhury
Khaled Masud (WK)
Mohammad Sharif
Dolar Mahmud
Ziaur Rahman
Enamul Haque Jr
Mosharraf Hossain
Nazmul Hossain

-BD Khela

Nazmul for a four day match ??? Did Shahzada bowl that bad yesterday ?

TheWatcher
February 17, 2007, 10:56 AM
Pilot declined to play for the A-team stating he is not "mentally prepared" to play at this point.

-bdnews24

Good news for the young wicket keepers such as Dhiman (made an unbeaten century ) and Golam Mabud (scored 63 runs) who are doing well in NCL. Or the selectors still want to go with Saghir ?

TheWatcher
February 17, 2007, 11:41 AM
Day-1 Report from TigerCricket-

Compton rules first day
Noman Mohammad
17-February-2007

A dazzling ton by Nick Compton and half centuries from opener Will Jefferson and number six Matthew Prior helped England A to take full control on the first day of their 3-day practice match against BCB National Cricket Academy at BKSP today (Saturday).

The touring side made 327/4 against the Academy side who used seven bowlers but could not make the required inroads.

Compton, the grandson of English great Dennis Compton, went opened the batting and remained unbeaten on 152. His marathon innings of 230 balls comprises of 14 boundaries and two over boundaries and he was not finished yet.

“I don’t know whether we will declare or not. At this moment 200 is very much within my sight,” said Compton after the day’s play adding, “I enjoyed my moments at the crease. The pitch is perfect for the batsmen and the Bangladeshi bowlers bowled too many loose balls. So I capitalized on that, formed some decent partnerships and that’s why we got over 300 runs.”

And he is absolutely right in every sense. Put into bowled first Bangladeshi pacers got little from the pitch and were also erratic. Runs came thick and fast before the introduction of spin. the 6 feet 10 inch Will Jefferson was the dominant one in the opening partnership. He scored 58 out of 85 before being cleaned up by left arm spinner Mosharraf Rubel. He hit nine boundaries and one mighty six off Shorawardi Shuvo, courtesy of a pull over mid wicket.

Skipper Micheal Yardy came to the crease and did not look comfortable in during the 66-run partnership with Compton for the second wicket. He made 16 off 91 before being caught behind off fast bowler Dollar Mahmud. Bangladesh came back strongly at that point as part timer Mahmudulla Riyad chipped in another two wickets within the space of a few overs. Michael Carberry was out for 7 and Alex Loudon got a duck. England A were in a spot of bother at that stage on 165/4.

But that was the end of success story for Academy bowlers as Compton shared 162 with Matt Prior. The latter constructed his inning beautifully as he hit 10 boundaries for a 106 ball-82.

Kabir
February 17, 2007, 12:45 PM
If we're thinking that Academy XI will be able to beat England A, then we're practically bringing England A down to Scotland level...it's not the fair judgment. England's a much superior team, and should be able to pull this convincingly. All I'm excited about is these youngsters playing 3-day matches, whereas when we were playing back in 2000, even our test team weren't playing many 3-day matches at that time.

We should be happy guys...definite improvement, and definite leap in our abilities. Inshallah this will help generate the players who are both consistant, and talented. Lets go Academy!!!

TheWatcher
February 17, 2007, 01:44 PM
This is a three day match on a BKSP batting pitch, I don't think there will be any result in this match unless Academy boys do some real poor batting. As Compton said, England-A probably won't declare trying to force a result anyway, their priority in this match should be to get as much batting practice as possible.

Aritro
February 17, 2007, 09:53 PM
Bangladesh A-team has been announced-

Mehrab Hossain Jr
Jahurul Islam
Nasiruddin Faruque
Tushar Imran (Cpt)
Marshal Ayub
Nadif Chowdhury
Khaled Masud (WK)
Mohammad Sharif
Dolar Mahmud
Ziaur Rahman
Enamul Haque Jr
Mosharraf Hossain
Nazmul Hossain

-BD Khela

Nazmul for a four day match ??? Did Shahzada bowl that bad yesterday ?

That's a very long tail.

The absence of Rana also disappoints me.

cricket_king
February 17, 2007, 11:13 PM
Bangladesh A-team has been announced-

Mehrab Hossain Jr
Jahurul Islam
Nasiruddin Faruque
Tushar Imran (Cpt)
Marshal Ayub
Nadif Chowdhury
Khaled Masud (WK)
Mohammad Sharif
Dolar Mahmud
Ziaur Rahman
Enamul Haque Jr
Mosharraf Hossain
Nazmul Hossain

-BD Khela

Nazmul for a four day match ??? Did Shahzada bowl that bad yesterday ?

This is a terrible team in my point of view. Half of these players are players whom i have never heard of! :(

Kuddus
February 18, 2007, 12:02 AM
The Academy Team and the 'A' team are almost similar in strength, and who is this Nasiruddin Faruque. On what basis is he getting a chance on the 'A' team. Haven't heard about him playing any particularly important knock before.

Murad
February 18, 2007, 01:41 AM
i'm happy.. my man.. enamul jr...is in the team.... i love his bowling..

AsifTheManRahman
February 18, 2007, 01:58 AM
Half of these players are players whom i have never heard of! :(

lol, that's your problem, buddy. maybe you should hang out at BC more often :) don't blame the selectors.

i admit that the name nasiruddin faruque does seem a bit alien to me, and that the team selection could probably have been better, but i think overall, the squad was selected based on performance in the domestic leagues, and the odds of the selected ones playing for the national team. however, barring one, none of the names seem too unfamiliar/unexpected.

Miraz
February 18, 2007, 04:45 AM
The Academy Team and the 'A' team are almost similar in strength, and who is this Nasiruddin Faruque. On what basis is he getting a chance on the 'A' team. Haven't heard about him playing any particularly important knock before.

Kuddus have a look at this thread on domestic cricket. (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=18391&highlight=Toddlers+early+teens)

and some stats of Nasiruddin Faruque

Highlights of the National Cricket League 2005-06 (First Class)
<table><tbody><tr><td>Name (http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Events/BDESH/Ispahani_Mirzapore_Tea_National_Cricket_League_200 5-06/Batting_by_Player.html)</td><td>Matches</td><td>Inns</td><td>Not Out</td><td>Runs (http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Events/BDESH/Ispahani_Mirzapore_Tea_National_Cricket_League_200 5-06/Batting_by_Runs.html)</td><td>HS</td><td>Ave (http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Events/BDESH/Ispahani_Mirzapore_Tea_National_Cricket_League_200 5-06/Batting_by_Average.html)</td><td>100</td><td>50</td><td>Ct (http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Events/BDESH/Ispahani_Mirzapore_Tea_National_Cricket_League_200 5-06/Fielding_by_Catches.html)</td><td>St (http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Events/BDESH/Ispahani_Mirzapore_Tea_National_Cricket_League_200 5-06/Fielding_by_Stumpings.html)</td></tr></tbody></table>
<table><tbody><tr><td>Nasiruddin Faruque (http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/61/61468/61468.html) (Bar)</td><td>8</td><td>14</td><td>3</td><td>510</td><td>101 </td><td>46.36 </td><td>1</td><td>4</td><td>7</td></tr></tbody></table>Leading run scorer of Kai Latech Premier League (First phase)


Batsman Match Inn N.O. Runs 100 50 Avg
N Faruque 10 10 2 402 4 50.3

Miraz
February 18, 2007, 07:54 AM
England A Vs BCB National Academy
England A327/4 (dec) Over -91; Compton 152*, Prior 82*, Jefferson 58; Riyad 2/42
BCB National Academy326/10 Over -86.4; Nadif 74, Sagir 70, Nasiruddin 58; Broad 3/99, Bresnan 2/23, Yardy 2/46
End of day two


I am very pleased with the way our boys responded to the challenge. If they can manage a draw, that will be a huge achievement against one of the topmost A teams of current cricket.

TheWatcher
February 18, 2007, 07:56 AM
Nasiruddin Faruque was also the second highest scorer (after Rokon) among local batsmen in Dhaka premier league last year (2006).

Miraz
February 18, 2007, 07:58 AM
After Pilot's refusal to play for A team, Sagir is making a good fight for the place. Nice competition going on between Sagir and Dhiman. :)

TheWatcher
February 18, 2007, 08:01 AM
BCB National Academy326/10 Over -86.4; Nadif 74, Sagir 70, Nasiruddin 58; Broad 3/99, Bresnan 2/23, Yardy 2/46

Not a bad reply. The match is definately heading for a draw. Saghir, I guess, is keeping the wicket keeper position in A-team, since Pilot declined to play.

sar2005
February 18, 2007, 08:02 AM
England A Vs BCB National Academy
......
I am very pleased with the way our boys responded to the challenge. If they can manage a draw, that will be a huge achievement against one of the topmost A teams of current cricket.


Impressive show by the boys indeed. Should be an obvious draw unless ENG scores 200+ in one session tomorrow and bold out the bd kids by two sessions (which I believe, does not look easy at all).

TheWatcher
February 18, 2007, 08:15 AM
Nice competition going on between Sagir and Dhiman. :)
Even yesterday I thought Dhiman had a chance, but today Saghir pretty much destroyed it. Dhiman's century against a depleted Rajshahi attack (without Shahzada and Suhrawadi) obviously does not carry that much weight as Saghir's seventy against English bowlers with international experience.

Miraz
February 18, 2007, 08:17 AM
Even yesterday I thought Dhiman had a chance, but today Saghir pretty much destroyed it. Dhiman's century against a depleted Rajshahi attack (without Shahzada and Suhrawadi) obviously does not carry that much weight as Saghir's seventy against English bowlers with international experience.

Completely agreed. :)

Hatebreed
February 18, 2007, 08:23 AM
Good performance by the batsman, though the bowling seems to a be lackluster. Let's hope they put up a good fight on the final day.

TheWatcher
February 18, 2007, 10:29 AM
Day-2 report from bdnews24-

Nadif, Sagir, Nasiruddin hit fifties against England A

Dhaka, Feb 18 (bdnews24.com) –Nadif Chowdhury, Sagir Hossain and Nasiruddin Faruque each smashed fifty, but the scores were not enough to make Bangladesh National Academy team take lead against England A at the close of second day's play of three-dayers Sunday.

The home side were all out for 326 in 86.4 overs to give the visitors a one-run lead in the first innings at the Bangladesh Krira Shikkha Protisthan ground.

England declared their first innings with overnight score of 327 for four to invite the home side to bat, but the Academy team fell into trouble losing opener Jahirul Islam (4).

Junaid Siddiquee and Nasiruddin repaired the early damage to put 50 runs for the second wicket before the home side faced a double blow at 54. Junaid (38) was caught behind off Graham Onions while Marshal Ayub played a one-ball duck.

Nasiruddin paired with captain Nadif Chowdhury added 62 runs for the fourth wicket before Nasiruddin was trapped lbw by Tim Bresnan, who returned with two for 23. Nasiruddin played a 101-ball 58 with the help of eight fours and one six.

After being reduced to 177 for six, Nadif and Sagir took the side to 273 for the seventh wicket before being separated. Nadif topscored with 74 off 104 balls, hitting 13 fours while Sagir scored 70 off 159 balls that also bagged nine fours.

Stuart Broad grabbed three wickets while Bresnan, Yardy and Onions took two wickets each.

TheWatcher
February 18, 2007, 10:59 AM
Looking at the scorecard (http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/114/114645.html), I think the selectors ought to make some changes to the A-team-

1) Junaid should come in place of Jahurul. Not only today, Junaid also proved himself a better batsman in the premier league. I understand Junaid needs to tone down his aggression, but this is the kind of opposition he needs to be exposed so that he matures.

2) Shahzada in place of Zia (or Nazmul). Shahzada has excellent records in NCL, PCL, and in A-team matches against Zimbabwe. He did not take any wicket yesterday, but at least he was not as expensive as Zia was.

Miraz
February 18, 2007, 11:18 AM
According to the scorecard Zia did not turn up for batting.

I hope he is not injured.

Miraz
February 18, 2007, 11:25 AM
And here's the Cricinfo report,

England A endure tough workout
Cricinfo staff
February 18, 2007
BCB Academy XI 326 (Chowdhury 74, Pavel 70, Faruque 58, Broad 3-99) trail England A 327 for 4 dec (Compton 152*, Prior 82*) by one run
Scorecard (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2006-07/ENG-A_IN_BDESH/SCORECARDS/ENG-A_BCB-ACAD_17-19FEB2007.html)
England A's bowlers were given a taste of performing on the subcontinent as the BCB Academy came within one run of their first innings total on the second day Mirpur. Stuart Broad managed three wickets but Nadif Chowdhury's and Sagir Hussain Pavel both hit seventies.
Instead of opting for more batting time England declared overnight, leaving Nick Compton unbeaten on 152, and Broad provided an early breakthrough. He added a second as the Academy slipped to 54 for 3 but Chowdhury set about the recovery alongside No. 3 Nasiruddin Faruque against an attack containing 14 ODI caps.
Tim Bresnan broke through by trapping Faruque lbw but the task became no easier for England as Pavel joined the fray. Pavel struck nine fours before being bowled by Bresnan and Michael Yardy chipped with a couple of scalps as Adil Rashid, the Yorkshire legspinner, went wicketless in 20 overs.

AsifTheManRahman
February 18, 2007, 11:55 AM
lol. i thought they had pretty high hopes on adil rashid.

Farhad
February 18, 2007, 11:58 AM
Good work by the batsmen!Kinda weird how they scored at the exact runrate the English scored at to score almost the exact score in almost the exact time :).....To be honest, I was kinda surprised England A declared as soon as they did. I dont think its reasonable for them to expect a win. Im sure their batsmen need more time in the middle than their bowlers.....

Kabir
February 18, 2007, 12:02 PM
I'm really impressed with the way our batsmen held up with it. If you look at it, the middle-order saved the fall. I hope these boys are going to learn from our national gurus, and make the middle-order stronger than ever.

3 half-centuries make it more attractive to me. I mean, usually, only one or two BD batsmen would hold on to the attack. I sincerely hope that this was a very qualified performance, rather than just a fluke.

Kabir
February 18, 2007, 12:05 PM
Good work by the batsmen!Kinda weird how they scored at the exact runrate the English scored at to score almost the exact score in almost the exact time :).....To be honest, I was kinda surprised England A declared as soon as they did. I dont think its reasonable for them to expect a win. Im sure their batsmen need more time in the middle than their bowlers.....

Well, their bowlers needed time out there too. And since they thought that okay, this is gonna be a tie eventually anyway, why not give the bowlers some chance. It so happened that the Academy side played for the whole day, giving the bowlers some practice. Tomm, the A-team will continue with the batting, and will try to get settled with the batting conditions more this time. I think it was a good move by the English team.

TheWatcher
February 18, 2007, 12:21 PM
According to the scorecard Zia did not turn up for batting.

I hope he is not injured.
It is not that. Since this is a practice match, each team can field twelve players in rotation, eleven at a time. So, they have to leave out someone from batting (you can't have more than ten wickets per innings in any condition).

Miraz
February 18, 2007, 12:24 PM
It is not that. Since this is a practice match, each team can field twelve players in rotation, eleven at a time. So, they have to leave out someone from batting (you can't have more than ten wickets per innings in any condition).

Hmm.. you are right.

Thanks for the info.

Farhad
February 18, 2007, 01:05 PM
Well, their bowlers needed time out there too. And since they thought that okay, this is gonna be a tie eventually anyway, why not give the bowlers some chance. It so happened that the Academy side played for the whole day, giving the bowlers some practice. Tomm, the A-team will continue with the batting, and will try to get settled with the batting conditions more this time. I think it was a good move by the English team.

Thats actually exactly what I was referring to. The main reason - almost the sole reason - for a practice match is for the touring side to get acclimated to the conditions. Now, the main importance of this is to get used to the pitch specifically. There are other reasons (like dew factor etc) but the pitch beats all in that respect. Thats why most touring sides bat as long as they can in a practice match, because it takes longer (and is more impotant) for the batsmen to get used to the conditions (the bounce, spin, swing) than it takes for the bowlers to see how much they can bounce/spin/swing. What England did is unconventional (maybe detrimental?). It took me by surprise, thats all..

Kuddus
February 18, 2007, 01:24 PM
Thanks Miraz for posting those stats on Nasiruddin Faruque. Somehow those numbers slipped my mind. I guess his 58 shows he is a decent quality batsman. Maybe they should have waited for this match to end to name the "A" team. Junaid could have been given a chance, although his 20/20 style SR of 172.22 begs the question of his temperament.

Kabir
February 18, 2007, 01:38 PM
20/20 style-wise, I think he's perfectly fine. That's exactly where they take chances, and score big runs...if it clicks, they get away with a few loose shots. In ODIs, it's much more planned. In tests, no risks can be taken. That's all just about strategy of the particular type of game.

TheWatcher
February 18, 2007, 02:03 PM
Thats actually exactly what I was referring to. The main reason - almost the sole reason - for a practice match is for the touring side to get acclimated to the conditions. Now, the main importance of this is to get used to the pitch specifically. There are other reasons (like dew factor etc) but the pitch beats all in that respect. Thats why most touring sides bat as long as they can in a practice match, because it takes longer (and is more impotant) for the batsmen to get used to the conditions (the bounce, spin, swing) than it takes for the bowlers to see how much they can bounce/spin/swing. What England did is unconventional (maybe detrimental?). It took me by surprise, thats all..
The move also surprised me, but look at the situation from this angle- three of the British boys (Jefferson, Compton, Prior) did more than just adapting to the condition (thanks to our one dimensional bowlers) and the other three (Yardy, Carberry, Loudon) could not hang around long enough to do that. Now, those three can't bat again if England-A don't declare. You may ask what about Davies and Bresnan who can be considered batting assets, but did not get chances to showcase their abilities in the first innings ? Well, they can be brought forward in the batting order tommorrow.

Other point to think about is you don't see the real face of subcontinental wicket on first two days, the wickets here generally starts to break from day three and onwards. So, I say England-A made a very clever move to set themselves up to bat the whole third day tommorrow.

Kabir
February 18, 2007, 02:19 PM
Other point to think about is you don't see the real face of subcontinental wicket on first two days, the wickets here generally starts to break from day three and onwards. So, I say England-A made a very clever move to set themselves up to bat the whole third day tommorrow.

Exactly. It's more of a strategic move, than a tactical one. They want their boys to learn about the worst conditions too. Things are not always as perfect as we want them to be :)

I think an even better move would be if they bat for 60% of the day time, and run as many runs as possible. Make the runs high enough to not be able to reach, and declare the innings. That way, their bowlers will get a chance to bowl in those conditions too. Most likely, what the bowlers will look for is how to take advantage of the cracked pitch.

TheWatcher
February 18, 2007, 02:41 PM
lol. i thought they had pretty high hopes on adil rashid.
Well, he is coming back from a long lay off caused by back injury. Also, as I mentioned above, when the wicket starts to break after day three lunch, he can be a very different bowler (remember Warne in Fatullah Test ?). I still think Rashid can be our biggest threat in four day matches.

I am more surprised that Loudon did not get to bowl at all, is Yardy trying to keep his fellow allrounder out of competition ?

Miraz
February 18, 2007, 04:31 PM
After Pilot's refusal to play for A team, Sagir is making a good fight for the place. Nice competition going on between Sagir and Dhiman. :)

According to Amar Desh (http://www.amardeshbd.com/detail_news_index.php?sub_section_id=8&NewsID=96708&NewsType=bistarito&SectionID=home), Sagir got the nod to keep wicket for the A team.

TheWatcher
February 18, 2007, 11:33 PM
News bits on Academy:

Loudon got an injured ankle and Nadif was hit on the head-

Alex Loudon spent the day resting an ankle injury and Nadif Chowdhury, the Bangladesh captain who was hit on the back of the head by Broad, capitalised on the off-spinner's absence by hitting 74 against the old ball when he returned after treatment.

- Source (http://sport.guardian.co.uk/cricket/story/0,,2016247,00.html)
Busy time ahead of the academy, after the A-team tour to Sri Lanka (16 Mar- 4 Apr), BCB Academy team will face PCB Academy team in April, here in Bangladesh-

Pakistan's U-19 team is due to tour Australia in April and England in May, while the Pakistan Academy team will visit Bangladesh.

- Source (http://usa.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/280768.html)

Miraz
February 19, 2007, 08:45 AM
A drawn match with most of the credit going to the tourists.

Second innings poor shows marred the goodies of the first innings of our boys.

England A Vs BCB National Academy
England A327/4 (dec) & 226/3 (dec) Over -68; Carberry 100*, Davis 67; Mosharraf 2/80
BCB National Academy326/10 & 56/5 Over -Marshall 23*; Jahirul 10, Nasiruddin 10, Junaed 4, Nadif 4, Sagir 0*; Onions 3/30, Smith 1/3, Broad 1/15
Match Drawn

Sumon77
February 19, 2007, 08:57 AM
A drawn match with most of the credit going to the tourists.

Second innings poor shows marred the goodies of the first innings of our boys.

England A Vs BCB National Academy
England A327/4 (dec) & 226/3 (dec) Over -68; Carberry 100*, Davis 67; Mosharraf 2/80
BCB National Academy326/10 & 56/5 Over -Marshall 23*; Jahirul 10, Nasiruddin 10, Junaed 4, Nadif 4, Sagir 0*; Onions 3/30, Smith 1/3, Broad 1/15
Match Drawn
looks like 2nd Innisngs batting problem has been transmitted to junior group also... how can we come out of it?

Hatebreed
February 19, 2007, 09:06 AM
England A would have comprehensively won if the match was 4-day, they get full credit for adjusting to our conditions so quickly. Now I am anxious to see how BD A will do.

bengaltiger
February 19, 2007, 09:49 AM
BD A batting performance was solid until the 2nd innings. I think that's a problem for all countries and not b'desh in particular. obviously b'desh has it more than others.

Farhad
February 19, 2007, 11:57 AM
BD A batting performance was solid until the 2nd innings. I think that's a problem for all countries and not b'desh in particular. obviously b'desh has it more than others.

The Academy team is playing, not BD A. But Im not sure BD A will do any better.....

istiak
February 19, 2007, 12:07 PM
This is a terrible team in my point of view. Half of these players are players whom i have never heard of! :(

Are you following Bangladesh cricket recently?

Farhad
February 19, 2007, 06:13 PM
Heres a little extra bit of info :



Carberry and Onions secure England A honours


BCB Academy XI 326 (Chowdhury 74, Pavel 70, Faruque 58, Broad 3-99) and 56 for 5 (Onions 3-30) drew with England A 327 for 4 dec (Compton 152*, Prior 82*) and 226 for 3 dec (Carberry 100*)
Scorecard

England A came close to an improbable victory on the third and final day of a hard-fought contest against a BCB Academy XI at Mirpur, with the Durham seamer, Graham Onions, capitalising on Michael Carberry's unbeaten century to grab three top-order wickets in seven overs.

England had started the day with the slenderest of one-run advantages after bowling the Academy out for 326 on the previous evening, but Carberry and Michael Yardy demonstrated the friendly nature of the batting conditions to add 71 for the first wicket. Yardy was eventually dismissed by Mosharraf Hossain for 21, but Steve Davies picked up where he had left off to add a further 122 for the second wicket.

Carberry reached an excellent century from 187 balls but retired hurt immediately afterwards, leaving just enough time for Adil Rashid to become Hossain's second victim of the innings before Yardy declared on 226 for 3. That gave England's seamers 20 overs to make an impression, and they took their opportunity instantly, with Onions dismissing the first three batsmen inside the first eight overs.

Stuart Broad, England's first-innings bowling star, then removed Nasiruddin Faruque for 10 before Tom Smith grabbed the captain, Nadif Chowdhury, caught behind for 4. Marshall Ayub was on hand to prevent a complete meltdown with an unbeaten 23, but the performance will have given England's tourists heart at the start of a tough tour.

© Cricinfo

Seems like Cricinfo's rather friendly stand towards Bangladesh cricket continues...

cricket_king
February 20, 2007, 01:08 AM
lol, that's your problem, buddy. maybe you should hang out at BC more often :) don't blame the selectors.

i admit that the name nasiruddin faruque does seem a bit alien to me, and that the team selection could probably have been better, but i think overall, the squad was selected based on performance in the domestic leagues, and the odds of the selected ones playing for the national team. however, barring one, none of the names seem too unfamiliar/unexpected.

Mate, im here 24/7 :-P ........but i guess i havent looked at the domestic league threads in a while. :)

Tigers_eye
February 20, 2007, 10:47 AM
So How bad is canberry's injury? Do they have 11 players now???

Musfique
February 20, 2007, 11:00 AM
I hope he recovers, he is very good friend of mine. He has has had raw deal from the counties in the past. He is finally realising his talent. Good luck buddy

TheWatcher
February 20, 2007, 11:11 AM
Carberry retired not because he was hurt, but to give others a chance to bat.

RazabQ
February 20, 2007, 05:52 PM
I was just about to moan and bitch about the lack of penetrativeness by the Academy bowlers but fortunately I stumbled upon the following :Carberry retired on 100 yesterday, though he was not always convincing. He was dropped close to the bat four times, and the wicketkeeper, Steven Davies, looked much the classier player with a delightfully fluent 67 on this slow pitch.So we WERE creating edges - it's just our fielding continues to suck! This won't do!

URL:http://sport.guardian.co.uk/cricket/story/0,,2016863,00.html

Kuddus
February 20, 2007, 07:03 PM
Any early prediction for the first 4 day match from anyone? Just for fun....

Ahmed_B
February 21, 2007, 12:06 AM
What a title in Guardian!!!...."Carberry makes hay with ton as fears over security ease"