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al Furqaan
February 28, 2007, 05:15 PM
i don't know about you all, but i think i smell "complacency" all over this game. SN, Aftab decided to poke at the ball, thinking "amra to besh shohoj bhabe jeete jabo" and before you know it we're 30-3.

then saqib, bashar, and ash realize "khobor asey" and decide to play as if their lives are dependent on the result.

then again 2nd innings the mantra is "amra duisho ashee run kore kemne harbo?" only to pull the act together again.

honestly, there is no other way to explain the cavalier fielding effort our players displayed. dropping sitters, knocking balls into the boundary, throws at the stumps after players reach the crease...

in short, our performance against canada was pathetic. if the tigers plan on playing this 4th rate version of cricket, then we might as well enter or u-17 team into the tourney and hope for better results.

there is no opportunity for rest and breaks...the first XI must play all remaining games and attempt to get their rhythm back in all depts: batting, bowling, and fielding.

Tigers_eye
February 28, 2007, 05:51 PM
Move this thread to BD forum.

BD forum hahakar kortasey!!

Rubu
February 28, 2007, 06:32 PM
Things that went wrong:


Tamim wasting opportunity. He should have been thinking. I have been given a free ride because no one else clicked. I need to prove that I worth it. Instead, he keeps throwing his wicket.
Mushfique having too big of a hole somewhere. I can't imagine someone would give so many by runs.
Shahadat being consistent at bowling wrong line and length. He just don't know how to use the new ball. Rasel should be the opening bowler. Shahadat either sits out or comes as 1st change (we play 3 seamers).
Rafique not being able to show his class. Really is, he never actually did good in WI.
The whole team is in a 'fielding' mode as if they are doing it in front of a girl's college, not in cricket field.

akabir77
February 28, 2007, 11:28 PM
We need to improve fileding a lot and I feel like we could have made some more runs at the end but i am ok with the effort.

cricman
February 28, 2007, 11:31 PM
We need to improve fileding a lot and I feel like we could have made some more runs at the end but i am ok with the effort.

We scored 95 off the last 10!

BD Tigers
February 28, 2007, 11:32 PM
I cud not follow the game but after reading many posts and looking at the score it seems like BD was in some kind of pressure before the game because of last WC history. I cant believe anybody went to the field thinking it will be an easy game. So Nafees/Aftab poking ball doesnt mean they took it easy.

In our innings, our bowlers were probably complacecent early but when Canada started hitting the balls so well that they probably got nervous and put more pressure on themselves. But having self belief and experience brought the win.

My brother was telling (during the game) that Mushfiq missed quite a few stumping chances. I really hope he doesnt do this in the real game because just missing one stumping chance might kill the game for BD.

Tamim is just wasting his chance but if he doesnt do anything against NZ, I am pretty sure JO will play against Scotland and India and that might not be a bad thing. I do hope Tamim takes this last chance and make a good score.

Congrats to Sakib, Sumon and Ash for good batting. I guess "Monkey off the back" now even tho it was a close call.

Kabir
February 28, 2007, 11:33 PM
Fielding and bowling need work. Batting wise, not every team will always have a perfect top-order everyday, or a perfect middle-order everyday. But fielding and bowling wise, it should be at its best everyday.

So, I just agree with one thing. In the 2nd innings, our bowlers thought, oh these guys will be out for less than 100 against our top bowlers...huh!!!

BanglaCool
February 28, 2007, 11:36 PM
We can't change the way Canada plays, no matter how much we want them to be minnows and under performing, our opponents on a given day are the set of players on the field. What we have to do is play our level best to overcome their challenge and I must admit we did a poor job out of that in the last game. Our batting left much to be desired, particularly from the top order and the slowish recovery from the middle order that deprived us from a decisive 300+ score on this pitch. But most pathetically our bowling and fielding left us at the same level with Canada in this match, the only difference made are by the latter's inexperienced run chase and a few good flighted slow deliveries (that we still need to perfect).
On the plus side, we have seen a good recovery from bashar and sakib and a number of improvisations from the batting of young sakib and ashraful.

zakirc
March 1, 2007, 01:07 AM
I actually see a lot of positive in yesterday's match. For the first time ever (As far as I remember) we recovered twice in a match, once while batting and then when bowling. While we almost always had the players capable of doing this, we never actually succeeded. I think yesterdays efforts is a direct result of the winning habit we have grown last year, our team is much more mature and focused now.

PoorFan
March 1, 2007, 02:11 AM
... there is no opportunity for rest and breaks...the first XI must play all remaining games and attempt to get their rhythm back in all depts: batting, bowling, and fielding.
Yeah, lets play final eleven in rest of the practice matches. No need for farther experiment!

PoorFan
March 1, 2007, 02:17 AM
Things that went wrong:

The whole team is in a 'fielding' mode as if they are doing it in front of a girl's college, not in cricket field.
<!--StartFragment -->What a way of expression! Only applies to BD boys perhaps.:)

sunny747
March 1, 2007, 02:21 AM
WI commentators often complaining about the weak arm of BD players....they said al the throw was reaching to keeper after 2/3 drops and of course: not accurately.

what were they trying to do? saving their arm for the big guns?

fwullah
March 1, 2007, 05:32 AM
This is what I think: I am sorry to say that our players are not yet International class. Yes, batsman took 95 off the last 10 overs, yes, there was a huge partnership between middle order Bashar and Saquib. But if you see behind the lines, our 2 specialist middle order batsman were batting in the last 10 overs, so we can't expect anything less than 95 off the last 10 overs.

At best, we're still struggling to up our ICC (non-test) level performance, and we're sucking at it - the only encouraging thing is that we're winning.

I thought in recent months, we would not have to feel shaky while playing against non-test playing teams, but the fact is, that we're still shaking sometimes away from home against the likes of Zimbabwe (our batsman scoring 150 odd in our last Zim series there in Harare is the proof) and Canada (our mere 13 runs victory yesterdy).

The only way to go up from here is to improve our own performance and improve our domestic circuit as well as players indivdiually to take up the class into a test class. I am saying this because - look at the better performers of Canada - they're all coming from other test playing countries, albeit 40 year old or non-regulars in their own national or age group teams they may be - they're still better players than our own players if compared one by one.

For example, we don't have any batsman, yet, (Saquib will be in Cricinfo's stats - after the World Cup and Shahirar Nafees has played too many games against Zimbabwe, Kenya) who have a batting average of 38. And yet, this Canada team has someone whose average is over 38. Now I haven't gone through the details, but I'm sure that if we compare the players individually - we'll find that at least a few of the Canadian players have actually much better stats than our own.

As Whatmore, our outgoing coach after the WC had insisted in the beginning of his tenure, playing good cricket step by step will eventually lead us to victory, this is one measure that we should take into account very seriously.

zakirc
March 1, 2007, 05:44 AM
This is what I think: I am sorry to say that our players are not yet International class. Yes, batsman took 95 off the last 10 overs, yes, there was a huge partnership between middle order Bashar and Saquib. But if you see behind the lines, our 2 specialist middle order batsman were batting in the last 10 overs, so we can't expect anything less than 95 off the last 10 overs.

At best, we're still struggling to up our ICC (non-test) level performance, and we're sucking at it - the only encouraging thing is that we're winning.

I thought in recent months, we would not have to feel shaky while playing against non-test playing teams, but the fact is, that we're still shaking sometimes away from home against the likes of Zimbabwe (our batsman scoring 150 odd in our last Zim series there in Harare is the proof) and Canada (our mere 13 runs victory yesterdy).

The only way to go up from here is to improve our own performance and improve our domestic circuit as well as players indivdiually to take up the class into a test class. I am saying this because - look at the better performers of Canada - they're all coming from other test playing countries, albeit 40 year old or non-regulars in their own national or age group teams they may be - they're still better players than our own players if compared one by one.

For example, we don't have any batsman, yet, (Saquib will be in Cricinfo's stats - after the World Cup and Shahirar Nafees has played too many games against Zimbabwe, Kenya) who have a batting average of 38. And yet, this Canada team has someone whose average is over 38. Now I haven't gone through the details, but I'm sure that if we compare the players individually - we'll find that at least a few of the Canadian players have actually much better stats than our own.

As Whatmore, our outgoing coach after the WC had insisted in the beginning of his tenure, playing good cricket step by step will eventually lead us to victory, this is one measure that we should take into account very seriously.

Now I am getting depressed .... :sick: [বাংলা]আমাদের কি কোনই আশা নেই?[/বাংলা] :sick:

Miraz
March 1, 2007, 05:44 AM
Mushfique having too big of a hole somewhere. I can't imagine someone would give so many by runs.

I don't know why many members are pointing finger at Mushfiq. He has given away only 4 bye runs. This can happen to any keeper at any day.

Rabz
March 1, 2007, 08:17 AM
I actually see a lot of positive in yesterday's match. For the first time ever (As far as I remember) we recovered twice in a match, once while batting and then when bowling. While we almost always had the players capable of doing this, we never actually succeeded. I think yesterdays efforts is a direct result of the winning habit we have grown last year, our team is much more mature and focused now.

Very well said!!

Yes, our performance in the last match was nothing to mention about..but to me it was like the yesterdays...only the role has been reversed...

years after years..we have seen how the big teams stumbled in the beginning only to find thier way out of the misery and win the match...( remember Colombo test 05, SL 47/4 to win by innings)...
that was the case of knowing they can and they would win..it is as if they forced the opponent to surrender the match..but virtue of shere experience and silent bullying.

Thats exactly what we did against Canada yesterday. If this was the old Bangladesh, who was more used to loosing ... we would have definately lost it. BUT NO, that did not happen. Even though our players suffered from a massive complicency, they knew they should win and indeed they emerged as the winner.

A win is a win at the end of the day... no matter how.
History would record the game as the one where BD won by 13 runs.

Remember how Australia got caught snoozing against BD at Fatullah, but they somehow managed to force thier way out of it, by shere self belief and the habit of winning.. it was more like the Aussies saying,"hey, we cant loose, we dont loose..so we wont." and they didnt.
And it was the complete opposite for Bangladesh...saying, "hey, wait a minute, we are not supposed to win against Australia,not in test, we couldnt, and we wouldnt." and they lost.

This BD team now believe they can win, they should win. Every dog have its bad day...so did we. But as to quote Shakespeare,"All's good if the end is good". And the end result is we WON.

Now looking back, i would actually say that playing Zim, Kenya and Scots last year was the best thing we could have had. It was the build up year where we got into that WINNING ( yes i am repeating that word, so that we all get that in our head, win, win, win, win, win) habit.

That was the new Bangladesh for you yesterday.
We should win, we could win, and so we did.
We won the match.

Tigers_eye
March 1, 2007, 09:17 AM
Things that went wrong:

The whole team is in a 'fielding' mode as if they are doing it in front of a girl's college, not in cricket field.What a way of expression! Only applies to BD boys perhaps.:)
With underaged boys this is bound to happen. This is the norm.

Tigers_eye
March 1, 2007, 09:24 AM
Those who listened to the radio can attest to the following:
The newzealanders were smacking or playing almost every ball. Very few went without untouched. there were one bye run given by mushfiq while he was standing right up and the player blocked the view and i think the ball went to the 3rd man region and the players took 2 runs. The other one was at the dying moments, when the runner just took of. Blaming Mushfiq is not the correct thing. His two stumping changed the game.

sadi
March 1, 2007, 09:43 AM
How many stumping chances did he miss?

Tigers_eye
March 1, 2007, 09:50 AM
Yeah, if the putu putu fielders can't throw fast enough two hops to the keeper most of the half chances would go in vain. Didn't you listen the commentators saying BD players are weak (strength wise)?

Rubu
March 1, 2007, 10:22 AM
how come I can't find out how to delete a message?

akabir77
March 1, 2007, 10:55 AM
I agree with sydny and others who r saying playing the minow helped us great and I have been saying that over and over again.
I still remember how akram khans team in Dhaka lost a match to zimbabwe by one wkt where we had two three run out chances and missed and andy won the game for them. We were in similar situations and lost the games, other times too. even the match we lost to kenya in 2003 we were in good position and also with canada but we lost just because we didn't know how to win....
after yesterdays match, I am another satisfied customer...
If we want to show a good show with big teams we have to be far better in the fielding then we r. I think the bd fielding coach is not helping bd team. we need to bring in some ausi or SL people as a fielding coach.

Mav
March 1, 2007, 11:31 AM
Well done.

AsifTheManRahman
March 1, 2007, 12:52 PM
how come I can't find out how to delete a message?

try edit->delete

Fazal
March 1, 2007, 01:02 PM
Or you can try a rubber thukku eraser

Or you can mask it with similar background color

Ahmed_B
March 1, 2007, 01:16 PM
[বাংলা]এইসব গন্ডগোল এর মধ্যে একটা কথা মনে হয় সবাই ভুলে গেছি - এই শেষ ম্যাচ টা ছিল সিরিজ ডিসাইডার। বাংলাদেশ জিতলো ট্রাই সিরিজ অনেক কষ্টে ।[/বাংলা]

israr
March 1, 2007, 01:28 PM
Very well said!!

Yes, our performance in the last match was nothing to mention about..but to me it was like the yesterdays...only the role has been reversed...

years after years..we have seen how the big teams stumbled in the beginning only to find thier way out of the misery and win the match...( remember Colombo test 05, SL 47/4 to win by innings)...
that was the case of knowing they can and they would win..it is as if they forced the opponent to surrender the match..but virtue of shere experience and silent bullying.

Thats exactly what we did against Canada yesterday. If this was the old Bangladesh, who was more used to loosing ... we would have definately lost it. BUT NO, that did not happen. Even though our players suffered from a massive complicency, they knew they should win and indeed they emerged as the winner.

A win is a win at the end of the day... no matter how.
History would record the game as the one where BD won by 13 runs.

Remember how Australia got caught snoozing against BD at Fatullah, but they somehow managed to force thier way out of it, by shere self belief and the habit of winning.. it was more like the Aussies saying,"hey, we cant loose, we dont loose..so we wont." and they didnt.
And it was the complete opposite for Bangladesh...saying, "hey, wait a minute, we are not supposed to win against Australia,not in test, we couldnt, and we wouldnt." and they lost.

This BD team now believe they can win, they should win. Every dog have its bad day...so did we. But as to quote Shakespeare,"All's good if the end is good". And the end result is we WON.

Now looking back, i would actually say that playing Zim, Kenya and Scots last year was the best thing we could have had. It was the build up year where we got into that WINNING ( yes i am repeating that word, so that we all get that in our head, win, win, win, win, win) habit.

That was the new Bangladesh for you yesterday.
We should win, we could win, and so we did.
We won the match.

Only if the other members could be as optimistic like you!

Thirdman
March 1, 2007, 02:36 PM
[বাংলা]আমি সবসময়ই একটা কথা বলে এসেছি যে, গৌরবজনক পরাজয় বলে কিছু নেই। সেই সঙ্গে আমি এটাও বিশ্বাস করি যে, বিজয় - সেটা যে কোন ধরনেরই হোক না কেন, সেটা বিজয়। আমার মনে হয় কানাডা'র সঙ্গে আমাদের জয়টা কষ্টকর হওয়াতে একদিক দিয়ে ভালোই হয়েছে। Hopefully it will work as a wake-up call for our players. আশা করি তারা এটা বুঝতে পারবে যে, complacency is a disease, and it can get very poisonous. আমরা যদি খুব সহজে জিতে যেতাম, এবং আমাদের টাইগারদের সেক্ষেত্রে যদি complacency আরো পরে আসতো, যখন আমরা আরো গুরুত্বপূর্ণ ম্যাচ খেলছি - সেটা আরো খারাপ হত।

এখন যেহেতু আমরা জিতেছি, বিজয়টাকে উপভোগ করার চেষ্টা করাই ভালো। ইতিহাস মনে রাখবে না আমরা কত কষ্ট করে জিতেছি, শুধু মনে রাখবে আমরা পূর্ব-পরাজয়ের প্রতিশোধ নিয়েছি। এখন কানাডার সাথে আমাদের স্কোরলাইন ১-১, যেটা আমাদের জন্য শুধুই বাড়বে, ২-১ হবে, ৩-১ হবে। এটাই বাস্তবতা - আমরা কানাডার চাইতে অনেক অনেক অনেক ভালো দল। ধার করা খেলোয়াড়দের দিয়ে কখনো দীর্ঘস্থায়ী ভালো দল করা যায় না, যেটা সংযুক্ত আরব আমীরাত অনেক আগেই বুঝতে পেরেছে।[/বাংলা]

Pundit
March 1, 2007, 02:48 PM
Nevertheless....I continue to be concerned with our cup preparations. I really hope we end up being competitive vs. NZ.

Woodster
March 1, 2007, 03:20 PM
Hi everyone, as you can tell I am new to this site.

I do a bit of part-time writing covering cricket and was assigned to cover the game against Canada yesterday. Here is my report, and if you could tell me any glaring errors I have made, or if it is any good. Any tips on the Bangla players in the future I would very much appreciate it. Thanks.

Bangladesh secured a 13 run win against the plucky Canadians in this exciting climax in the Associates Tri-Nations tournament in Antigua. The thanks for Bangladesh must go to all-rounder Saqibul Hasan, who made the highest individual score ever by a Bangladeshi in ODI's making a match winning 134 not out, then bowled his 10 overs picking up 2 wickets for a measly 36 runs.

Bangladesh recovered from a nervy start to post a decent total of 278, and while Canada always seemed a little behind the pace in run rate terms, they pushed Bangladesh right to the very end, and were unfortunate to fall 13 short. Geoff Barnett and Ian Billcliff the stars of their innings.

Canada were not the pushovers perhaps people expected and fought to the very end and played their part in a thrilling run chase.

Bangladesh made two changes to their line-up from the opening game, the two quick bowlers, Mashrafe Mortaza and Shahadat Hossain, had recovered sufficiently from their respective back and foot problems to replace Syed Rasel and Tapash Baisya. Canada made just one change to their side, slow bowler Kevin Sandher was left out in favour of Ugandan-born seamer Henry Osinde.

Canada won the toss and chose to field and made early inroads into the Banglas line up, when century maker in the first game, Shahriar Nafees, was caught behind from his first ball off the bowling of former West Indies international Anderson Cummins. The 40-year old paceman then picked up Aftab Ahmed for 0. He fell second ball, again caught by promising keeper Ashish Bagai.

When Tamim Iqbal was run out for 11, Bangladesh were staring down the barrel at 30-3. They need not have worried, because at this point captain Habibul Bashar joined the exciting young Saqibul Hasan, and when the skipper had finally departed the scoreboad had shunted along to 162-4, a much needed, steadying partnership of 132.

It did not get any easier for Canada's slightly ageing attack, as Mohammad Ashraful came to the crease, and put together a partnership with Saqibul that in retrospect took the game away from Canada. They accumulated 116 runs off just under 14 overs, with some calculated hitting. Ashraful was finally out off the last ball of the innings for a superb 60 off only 45 balls, Saqibul remained not out for an outstanding 134, including 14 fours. Bangladesh finished on 278-5 off their allocation of 50 overs, with 95 coming off the last 10 overs.

It was a breezy knock from the classy Ashraful, which came at just the right time for Bangladesh to gain some impetus and post a daunting total for the Canadians. Cummins figures took a little bit of hammer towards the end, after his tidy opening spell. His last 5 overs disappearing for 45, but he still finished with relatively respectable figures of 3-60.

The drama continued right after lunch, as Canada's chase got off to a shaky start. Abdool Samad had to retire hurt after taking a blow from Mortaza, and Shahadat Hossain started with a wicket maiden picking up the important wicket of Ashish Bagai, for the second first ball duck of the day.

But like Bangladesh, Canada found two allies willing to do the hard yards and get their side into a position of strength. Geoff Barnett and Ian Billcliff have both played cricket in New Zealand, and they combined to great effect here, in a stand of 177 to drag the Canadians back into the game.

However, the Bangladesh spinners were gradually cranking up the pressure, and the run rate continued to climb. First Barnett was stumped, then Canada captain John Davison realised the game was drifting away and in an attempt to rescue to the situation was out to the man of the day Saqibul Hasan. When Billcliff also fell not long after to the spin of Abdur Razzaq for a determined and powerful 92, the writing appeared to be well and truly on the wall.

But Canada did not know when to quit and Ashif Mulla came in and got stuck straight into the spinners, and it was back to game on and Canada were 223-4 off 45 overs, still needing another 56 off 30 deliveries.

Despite Mulla's run a ball 44, wickets continued to tumble in the manic chase for sweet victory, and inevitably fell just short of the victory total, but all in all gave a very good account of themselves.

Bangladesh must continue to work hard and cease the initiative when the chance arises if they are to produce a shock at the World Cup, the fielding was one aspect which was below standard today.

However, well done to Bangladesh and the 19 year old talent that is Saqibul Hasan, and let us hope for many more nail biting contests throughout the upcoming World Cup.

Miraz
March 1, 2007, 03:35 PM
Welcome Woodstar to BC.

have a nice stay and enjoy the forum.

A good and detail report.

shovon13
March 1, 2007, 03:40 PM
Now I am getting depressed .... :sick: [বাংলা]আমাদের কি কোনই আশা নেই?[/বাংলা] :sick:

she can do that to you.

Tigers_eye
March 1, 2007, 03:50 PM
Woodster, welcome to BC.

Since you asked to critic your writing:

Nice detailed piece. I enjoyed your smooth flowing match report. Instead of saying 'banglas" would be much better if you say "Bangladeshis" (there is a difference ofcourse).

Woodster
March 1, 2007, 03:59 PM
Thanks very much for your comments.
Please excuse my naivety for using Banglas in place of Bangladeshis, what is the difference in the two and what context would Banglas be used in ?

Rubu
March 1, 2007, 04:15 PM
Bangla is a language. Where Bangladeshis means a nation. The reason Banglas sound odd is that it is not used like that.

Was it a associates try nation tournament? BD is not a associate anymore and I think the name of the tournament was 'ICC try national tournament'

zakirc
March 1, 2007, 04:20 PM
Thanks very much for your comments.
Please excuse my naivety for using Banglas in place of Bangladeshis, what is the difference in the two and what context would Banglas be used in ?

Welcome to BC Woodster.

First, there is nothing named "Banglas", there is "Bangali" and there is "Bangladeshi", "Bangali" represents the entire population who speak in Bengali Language and this population is divided primarily into two countries, Bangladesh and India. On the other hand, citizen of Bangladesh are Bangladeshi's and this term includes the "Bengali" speaking population as well as out indigenous citizen who speak in their own languages.

Example:

India has a "Bangali" player, Shaurav Ganguly and Bangladesh, on the other hand may have a non-Bengali (but Bangladeshi) player if anyone from our indigenous population gets into the national team.

Hope this was helpful.

Woodster
March 1, 2007, 05:17 PM
Yes it was all helpful thank you, I will amend that in my match report.

And the information on Cricinfo says it was Associates Tri-Series (in West Indies) - 3rd Match

Miraz
March 1, 2007, 05:23 PM
Yes it was all helpful thank you, I will amend that in my match report.

And the information on Cricinfo says it was Associates Tri-Series (in West Indies) - 3rd Match

Take ICC as the official source.

According to ICC it is 'ICC Tri-Series in West Indies'

Woodster
March 1, 2007, 05:36 PM
If that is the case, I stand corrected.

Cricinfo does refer to both the ICC Tri-Series and Associates Tri-Series.

Kabir
March 1, 2007, 10:46 PM
If that is the case, I stand corrected.

Cricinfo does refer to both the ICC Tri-Series and Associates Tri-Series.

CricInfo isn't a cricket authority. They're just a business. ICC is a cricket authority, and their source is authoritative. CricInfo being one of the biggest sources for cricket-related information makes them a de facto authority. However, that doesn't make them an authoritative source. It's the same difference between a regular business magazine and Harvard Business Journal.

rafiq
March 2, 2007, 02:29 AM
give the guy a break, guys!

RazabQ
March 2, 2007, 02:59 AM
Woodster - it's "seize the initiative" not "cease the initiative" :) Nice piece - but lacking an analytical punch. Welcome to the board.

Woodster
March 2, 2007, 01:54 PM
Thanks RazabQ, quite correct. Quite difficult however to give an analytical punch when you haven't seen or listened to the game.

al Furqaan
March 2, 2007, 05:02 PM
Woodster - it's "seize the initiative" not "cease the initiative" :) Nice piece - but lacking an analytical punch. Welcome to the board.

well the way BD played against canada, who can blame him for saying "cease the initiative"?

AsifTheManRahman
March 2, 2007, 05:03 PM
well the way BD played against canada, who can blame him for saying "cease the initiative"?


hehe...well if we'd ended up losing in the end, the team would probably have done better to cease the initiative and go home.

Woodster
March 3, 2007, 05:07 AM
CricInfo isn't a cricket authority. They're just a business. ICC is a cricket authority, and their source is authoritative. CricInfo being one of the biggest sources for cricket-related information makes them a de facto authority. However, that doesn't make them an authoritative source. It's the same difference between a regular business magazine and Harvard Business Journal.

Kabir, I appreciate Cricinfo is not a cricket authority, and I do not recollect saying it was in any of my previous posts. They are the most widely read cricket website in the world, but that is not my point. I was simply explaining where I got my information from, and where this small error may have occurred, nothing more than that. Hopefully that is fully cleared up now.

Thunder
March 3, 2007, 05:27 AM
Although we've managed to win "luckily", there was a win for canada written all over it. I think this Canada team is far superior then the zimbabwe and kenya team. If we look back at the last world cup, they did pretty well against every other test playing nations. I think we should arrange a 5 match series against Canada and i m sure it will be a very competitive series