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Padosan
March 5, 2007, 09:26 AM
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The most ridiculous thing that ICC can do ! check this on the ICC world cup schedule. I hope Bangla cricket will strongly voice its comments to ICC body for publishing this kind of schedule on the official website.

favoring teams is one thing, publishing the super 8 team names with their schedule is another. I think this is a blatant dis-respect for the other 8 teams playing in the WC.

I dont buy this crap of disclaimer published in the page
"Team names for the Super Eight stage are indicative based on the top two teams from the Group Stage qualifying. If these two teams do qualify they will be seeded in position 1 or 2 as specified regardless of whether they finish first or second in their group. For example, if South Africa wins Group A and Australia comes second, for the purposes of the Super Eights, South Africa will still be A2 and Australia will be A1. If, for example, Scotland qualifies instead of Australia, Scotland will become A1"

plz check these links

http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/events/worldcup/schedule.html

cheers !

Padosan

Tigers_eye
March 5, 2007, 09:28 AM
Welcome back Padosan.

We don't care!! All we care is March 17.

I know you can't lose since you are a supporter of both teams. lol.

Padosan
March 5, 2007, 09:33 AM
hehehe.. thanks tiger .. i do care man. Lets wish good for each other. Lets say both of us will sail to the next round. hopefully there are not srilankan supporters around :)

Miraz
March 5, 2007, 09:47 AM
This is plain stupidity. They cannot simply do this. I have sent this e-mail to ICC.


I am really surprised to see the degree of unprofessionalism by ICC. You have already scheduled super 8 stage matches with teams names assuming top two teams will qualify. Why don't you extend your imagination and write down the names of semifinalist, finalist and eventually the winner based on current ranking? That will make life even simpler. This is plain stupidity and we don't expect it from ICC. Cricket match is played on the field and there is no place of assumption here. This attitude also shows disrespect to other 8 participatory nation.

I expect you will understand your nuisance and will correct the mistake immediately. Correction should be followed by a public apology.

Regards,

Miraz

mhj007
March 5, 2007, 10:24 AM
i don't give a damn!!!i m also waiting for 17th march!!!!
Junior
(and i hope,allah ahonkarider uchit shikhkha diben)

Spitfire_x86
March 5, 2007, 10:28 AM
When ICC behaves like this, why whine about Cricinfo all the time? :mad:

Kabir
March 5, 2007, 10:32 AM
I've never seen such a worthless site as ICC's one. Couldn't find any links for feedback or "contact us". What's the email you used Miraz bhai? Could you please let me know?

Kabir
March 5, 2007, 10:36 AM
When ICC behaves like this, why whine about Cricinfo all the time? :mad:

There's no rule that no two organizations can be at fault. If both of them are wrong and biased, then both should be targeted for criticism.

And nobody's whining. Everyone's providing a constructive criticism, which whining lacks.

Spitfire_x86
March 5, 2007, 10:40 AM
There's difference between the two organizations. ICC is the only guardian organization of cricket, but many people mistakenly take Cricinfo as some sort of 2nd ICC.

BTW, I totally agree that ICC's website is useless. Apart from sometimes going there to check the rankings, I never visit their website.

Duck
March 5, 2007, 10:46 AM
This is plain stupidity. They cannot simply do this. I have sent this e-mail to ICC.

Miraz, would you please provide us the ICC email address you used for this purpose. We should shoot some of our response too...........Thanks in advance.

Miraz
March 5, 2007, 10:49 AM
I've never seen such a worthless site as ICC's one. Couldn't find any links for feedback or "contact us". What's the email you used Miraz bhai? Could you please let me know?

[বাংলা]বাছা, তুমি তো আবার একটু আন্ধা,

চশমা টা নিয়ে, একটু নিচের দিকে খোজো, দেখবে http://img.cricinfo.com/icc/spacer.gif
Contact ICC (http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/contact-us.html) | Jobs @ ICC (http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/jobs/) [/বাংলা]

[বাংলা]অথবা এই লিংক এ ক্লিক করলেও চলবে[/বাংলা] :)

Miraz
March 5, 2007, 11:14 AM
Miraz, would you please provide us the ICC email address you used for this purpose. We should shoot some of our response too...........Thanks in advance.

Duck_Pion bhai, please see the post above.

Click on Contact ICC (http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/contact-us.html) and you can send the feedback.

Orpheus
March 5, 2007, 11:17 AM
This was done to facilitate the sell of tickets. Cricket world cup is not like football worldcup, if your country is not playing.. you hardly care....

that is the reason they fixed the positioning....it's actually to help out their customers. The names are publised in parenthesis so stupid ppl don't have to figure out....

For example, ppl are still thinking there migth be a Pak vs India second round match... they are not realizing it will be Pak/Zim? vs SL/BD regardless of group position.

Orpheus
March 5, 2007, 11:19 AM
Now that I think of it, they could have used my notation :) But still may be too complex for some people. :)

This news is old to me

mac
March 5, 2007, 11:21 AM
When will that damn 17 march come?

Spitfire_x86
March 5, 2007, 11:25 AM
This was done to facilitate the sell of tickets. Cricket world cup is not like football worldcup, if your country is not playing.. you hardly care....

that is the reason they fixed the positioning....it's actually to help out their customers. The names are publised in parenthesis so stupid ppl don't have to figure out....

For example, ppl are still thinking there migth be a Pak vs India second round match... they are not realizing it will be Pak/Zim? vs SL/BD regardless of group position.
They could help the ticket buyers by providing interactive 2nd round match predictor. That's not very hard and a very realistic solution.

akabir77
March 5, 2007, 11:34 AM
[বাংলা]বাছা, তুমি তো আবার একটু আন্ধা,

চশমা টা নিয়ে, একটু নিচের দিকে খোজো, দেখবে http://img.cricinfo.com/icc/spacer.gif
Contact ICC (http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/contact-us.html) | Jobs @ ICC (http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/jobs/) [/বাংলা]

[বাংলা]অথবা এই লিংক এ ক্লিক করলেও চলবে[/বাংলা] :)

Good one miraz bhai

Kabir
March 5, 2007, 11:42 AM
[বাংলা]বাছা, তুমি তো আবার একটু আন্ধা,

চশমা টা নিয়ে, একটু নিচের দিকে খোজো, দেখবে http://img.cricinfo.com/icc/spacer.gif
Contact ICC (http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/contact-us.html) | Jobs @ ICC (http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/jobs/) [/বাংলা]

[বাংলা]অথবা এই লিংক এ ক্লিক করলেও চলবে[/বাংলা] :)

Miraz kakku,
Link er jonno dhonnobaad. Ami IT'r manush to, tai best practice er upor depend kore choli. Jacob Neilsen (the usability guru) said, always underline your links, as that way users can identify them easily. ICC'r oshikhito web designers didn't read Jacob Neisen's book...so that's why this is their halot. Part of it may also be to stop fans from overloading their site with emails.

Padosan
March 5, 2007, 11:46 AM
This was done to facilitate the sell of tickets. Cricket world cup is not like football worldcup, if your country is not playing.. you hardly care....

that is the reason they fixed the positioning....it's actually to help out their customers. The names are publised in parenthesis so stupid ppl don't have to figure out....

For example, ppl are still thinking there migth be a Pak vs India second round match... they are not realizing it will be Pak/Zim? vs SL/BD regardless of group position.

ICC and WICB have definitely made the match's money just by selling the TV rights and other endorsements :), the sale of tickets .. a few 100 thou dollars shldn't matter much.

hahahaha, if we still think ICC cares much about facilitating the respective countries supporters to be in the ground.. :) well shldnt we think again !

Infact i would think this is more mis-leading to the fans, putting a sense of almost-certainity schedule.

As for me, the schedule with team names in "paranthesis" pure stupidity on the part of ICC. simple !

well they could have carried on to semi-finals and finals stage with the current ICC ranking with their thoughts.. none of us would buy the pay-per-views , will we :)



I would take this schedule if cricinfo had published, from ICC being the governing body.. shame shame puppy shame !!! ICC should think b4 they ink.. rather publish !!

cheers !

zakirc
March 5, 2007, 12:12 PM
Looks like they changed it.

akabir77
March 5, 2007, 12:21 PM
http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/events/worldcup/schedule.html

On this link it shows Bangladesh(11) what does this means? I thought Bangladesh rank is 9 now. what the hell is going on how come kenya is 10? I will shoot some body today... somebody is going to get hurt....

Miraz
March 5, 2007, 12:21 PM
Looks like they changed it.


Yes!!

They have changed it now.

http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/events/worldcup/schedule.html

It seems our e-mails worked.

Thanks Padosan for bringing this matter into light. :)

akabir77
March 5, 2007, 12:33 PM
Yes!!

They have changed it now.

http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/events/worldcup/schedule.html

It seems our e-mails worked.

Thanks Padosan for bringing this matter into light. :)

Miraz bhai what about the ranking? is it right? or i am missing something...


I have already send them the below email...

Dear Sir<o></o>
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From the below link you will find the schedule for WC 2007 where on the top you mention the group and the teams in those group. But to my astonishment I found that the ranking its showings for all the countries are not correct. Please provide a comment or something to tell the readers/browsers that this ranking is not current or provide the correct ranking.<o></o>
<o></o>
I am very much disappointed to see such unprofessional acts from ICC.
<o></o>
Thank you
<o></o>

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Miraz
March 5, 2007, 12:35 PM
Miraz bhai what about the ranking? is it right? or i am missing something...


I have already send them the below email...

Dear Sir

From the below link you will find the schedule for WC 2007 where on the top you mention the group and the teams in those group. But to my astonishment I found that the ranking its showings for all the countries are not correct. Please provide a comment or something to tell the readers/browsers that this ranking is not current or provide the correct ranking.

I am very much disappointed to see such unprofessional acts from ICC.

Thank you




akabir bhai, the ranking was correct when the original schedule was published back in 2005.

For world cup, they are keeping the same ranking.

Duck
March 5, 2007, 12:36 PM
Yes!!

They have changed it now.

http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/events/worldcup/schedule.html

It seems our e-mails worked.

Thanks Padosan for bringing this matter into light. :)

Thanks Padosan for informing us..................and also Miraz for your link and address to send our emails.........
Although the link: http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/events/worldcup/schedule.html
not working for me.

I am surprised to get such a quick response from ICC!

Kabir
March 5, 2007, 12:36 PM
The rankings are Test rankings I believe. On the right hand side, in a red table is ODI rankings.

akabir77
March 5, 2007, 12:36 PM
akabir bhai, the ranking was correct when the original schedule was published back in 2005.

For world cup, they are keeping the same ranking.

Ok then they should mention that there shouldn't they?

Miraz
March 5, 2007, 12:37 PM
The rankings are Test rankings I believe. On the right hand side, in a red table is ODI rankings.

Nope!!
We have 10 test playing nations only not 16.

akabir77
March 5, 2007, 12:40 PM
The rankings are Test rankings I believe. On the right hand side, in a red table is ODI rankings.

test ranking then how come Ireland and Scotland got ranking? i think miraz bhai is right its the ranking from 2005 but they should mention that. but if you see fifa schedules you will find they always put the current ranking. it doesn't matter what was the ranking during the schedule. cause its now when we were reading it...

Murad
March 5, 2007, 12:41 PM
http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/events/worldcup/schedule.html

On this link it shows Bangladesh(11) what does this means? I thought Bangladesh rank is 9 now. what the hell is going on how come kenya is 10? I will shoot some body today... somebody is going to get hurt....


at the time they made the schedule, BD was on 11th position....

Padosan
March 5, 2007, 12:55 PM
ooh finally , they changed it.

I still wonder how many fans would have booked tickets based on the imaginary schedules. Poor them, pity 'em.

good work guys, for all the emails ! now thats what i call a vibrant online community :)

cheers ! again

Padosan

chinaman
March 5, 2007, 01:05 PM
ICC site may have been hacked. That schedule does not match with the one published from the official World Cup site. Besides, the wordings in the ICC WC playing conditions are different too.

I'm attaching a screen capture of that schedule here for the record:

billah
March 5, 2007, 01:07 PM
Thank you all, for prompt action. Looks like your day has started well. Well done.

RazabQ
March 6, 2007, 03:23 AM
Nice to know our pan-panani can be effective :)

Outswinger
March 6, 2007, 04:20 AM
This is plain stupidity. They cannot simply do this. I have sent this e-mail to ICC.


Why did you this for ? Zimbabwe & Bangladesh never gonna make it guys ;

orzoon
March 8, 2007, 04:00 PM
Padosan,I hacked the icc site again and brought it back to square one.
So,guys start sending mails again.

http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/events/worldcup/schedule.html

AsifTheManRahman
March 8, 2007, 04:05 PM
Padosan,I hacked the icc site again

hillarious. i remember someone on this forum hacked the scotland cricket board website once a couple of years ago.

FaridpurChicago
March 8, 2007, 04:23 PM
So, our first 2nd round match will be against Australia on March 31. Good that it's a Saturday.
I started thinking about 2nd round.
choto belay pore chilam "progressive people always think ahead"

akabir77
March 8, 2007, 04:35 PM
So, our first 2nd round match will be against Australia on March 31. Good that it's a Saturday.
I started thinking about 2nd round.
choto belay pore chilam "progressive people always think ahead"

Hmm well i read GACHEY KATHAL GOFEY TEL...What would be the english for this?

akabir77
March 8, 2007, 04:40 PM
hillarious. i remember someone on this forum hacked the scotland cricket board website once a couple of years ago.

yeah it was mee... and then others did it too

Mav
March 8, 2007, 05:11 PM
"If you qualify by beating the better ranked team in your group, you will be placed ahead." - This is what ICC is saying.

Although this might seem unfair - The competition among the top 8 nations in cricket is way more closer than soccer world cup. An 8 ranked can beat a 2nd ranked team anyday. That is why ICC did it and they know its not going to be a big concern among public.

JamesBond
March 8, 2007, 11:24 PM
The dog wants to bark... let it bark.. why are you wasting your time on that? Just be calm and enjoy BD win on Mar 17th.