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Fortuner
March 7, 2007, 04:04 PM
Guys,
Now we all know its a fact that Bangladesh can defeat anyone as Bangldesh have improved a lot. Talkin about India match on 17th. Inshallah we wil win it...Inshallah

But in Indian batting line up. My main worry is Dhoni. I dont give a damn about Sachin, Shewag, Ganguly as i feel it wld b difficult for us to make Dhoni out. Inshallah Sachin, Shewag, Ganguly will get bowled by Mashrafee, Rasel.

.........ya Dhoni aint gud against quality spin. So, lets hope Razzak gets on into his middle stump :D

Tokin about their bowling hope Pathan continuos his bad form into this particular match. but wht about Sreesanth? is he an obstacle..i dont noe much bout this guy....

Tigers_eye
March 7, 2007, 04:12 PM
Indian bowling attack, Herbi in for sure. 10 overs for tendu, shewag, Dada. That is total of 20. For the rest 30 they have Kumble, Zaheer, Agarkar, Sreesanth, Munaf, Pathan. Zaheer, Agarkar a shoein. So if they have Kumble then they have to chose two between the 5 remaining bowlers.

Zaheer is a shoein if not injured. Now between Agarkar/Sreesanth/Patel/Pathan they chose one. They change lineup almost every game. So it is not predictable who will play in the final 11.

akabir77
March 7, 2007, 04:15 PM
We will lose the match. cause india knows what they will face now and will be very careful against us...

FaridpurChicago
March 7, 2007, 04:15 PM
We don't need to analyze a lot on Indians. If we correct our problems and understand our strength/weakness, everything else will be taken care. I tried to make an analysis of the team after our match against NZ. It's in the other thread.

Tigers_eye
March 7, 2007, 04:17 PM
Our batsmen can handle no matter who they bring. All we got to do is bat second and not lose wickets in first 10/15 overs. We will win inshallah.

Fortuner
March 7, 2007, 04:18 PM
We will lose the match. cause india knows what they will face now and will be very careful against us...

I feel India Bangladesh match is 50-50 given the condition batting does well. BD u neva know mite collapse. They can defeat India now. Inshallah they will..we hope...

bharat
March 7, 2007, 04:52 PM
I think the BD-NZ match has done more good to India than BD.

The only way(I think) that BD can beat India is if India are complacent and BD does a counter attach (similar to the one against Aus in the first test in BD) and India is taken offgaurd

The BD-NZ match is an eye opener to India and I guess India will be vary and I predict a strong performance by India.

allrounder
March 7, 2007, 04:54 PM
you forgot yuvraj as a wkt taking bowler. yes dhoni is areal concern. Remember how India came strong against BD when they lost to BD, they posted over 300 runs.

How many runs do you think BD can post against india or other big teams?

cricman
March 7, 2007, 05:24 PM
you forgot yuvraj as a wkt taking bowler. yes dhoni is areal concern. Remember how India came strong against BD when they lost to BD, they posted over 300 runs.



Bowling O M R W
Mashrafe Mortaza 10 0 60 0 (3w)
Hasibul Hossain 6 0 53 0
Mushfiqur Rahman 6 0 52 0 (1w)
Khaled Mahmud 10 0 62 3
Mohammad Rafique 10 1 63 1 (1w)
Aftab Ahmed 2 0 16 0
Rajin Saleh 6 0 38 1 (2w)

That was Mash's 2nd game back from Injury, Shanto? Chacha bowled good, Mushfiuir Rahman? We've turned the page in our cricket. If Sachin and Gangu are set than they prolly will score 300.

How many runs do you think BD can post against india or other big teams?With This team we can chase 300+ score from india or Sri Lanka

Navarene
March 7, 2007, 06:37 PM
The only way Tigers can win against India is to restrict them under 250/260 odds and then chase the target (in case if India bats first).

If Tigers opt to bat first, chance to win is almost zero. Indians are that good of run chasing.

My 2 cents.

Spitfire_x86
March 7, 2007, 06:40 PM
With This team we can chase 300+ score from india or Sri Lanka
২০০-২২৫ চেজ করতেই জান বের হয়ে যায়, আবার বড় বড় কথা!

sadi
March 7, 2007, 07:38 PM
২০০-২২৫ চেজ করতেই জান বের হয়ে যায়, আবার বড় বড় কথা!

Exactly. When was the last time we scored 300 forget chasing 300. As far as I can remember, we have scored 300 only once against Kenya and thats it. Anything over 250 will be almost unchasable. If we bat first, we need to score atleast 270 to have any sort of match against Indians.

tonoy
March 7, 2007, 07:47 PM
Guys dont worry, Indian bowling isnt that strong of a line up. Their pacers had real trouble getting the dutch batsmen out. I predict we can tackle the Indian bowlers. I had a fear that we would not be able to restrict their batsmen, but that too changed when I saw the result against NZ. NOw that being said if we played our total potential and dont panic under pressure (which we mastered watching the last 3 games) then we can beat India just like any other team.

JamesBond
March 7, 2007, 08:25 PM
guys dont worry... just keep ur fingers crossed, they just have to be really sensible and play with their soul in their hands, If BD plays with full potential and roars then those vegetarian indians will pee their pants!! We just have to play as if there is no tomorrow!!

Thunder
March 7, 2007, 08:37 PM
The main worry is, the performance against NZ. We only perform like this about once a year and thats it..

I dont see any chance against India now but against Srilanka i am much more hopeful if we get Sangakara and Jaysuria out quickly. :waiting:

allrounder
March 7, 2007, 08:54 PM
some members either have short memory or are dilusional that Bangladesh has improved a lot, because i do not remember bangladesh playing well against the big teams in the recent past, they have been playing against Zimbabwe most of the time and most of them were nail biters, even against Canada was a tough match. Also can anyone point me when was the last time Bangladesh score more than 250 against a bigger team?

Now as much i have confidence in their bowling that they can definitely restrict any team below 250, my confidence in BD's batting is very low, because not a single player is dependable, even against Zimbabwe except Nafees. All our batsmen got the chance to create some consistency when playing so many matches against Zimbabwe, but they failed to have it. So now it mostly depends on 'jodi laiga jai' and somehow everything falls in place, yes we can win then.

Murad
March 7, 2007, 08:58 PM
Beating india is not impossible...if we show performance from everyone and every departments... but india's batting is real concern... most of them are in great form.. except sehwag..but he willl be doing good against us...


and the 2nd match...

Most of the Srilankans players are out of form..... so we might have a chance there....

al Furqaan
March 7, 2007, 09:08 PM
Also can anyone point me when was the last time Bangladesh score more than 250 against a bigger team?



just 2 games ago, my forgetful mate...(excluding minnow teams - but you asked for bigger teams, right)

265 chasing against SL and that too not even trying to chase 307 and that was without any contribution from ash or SN.

allrounder
March 7, 2007, 09:12 PM
al Furqaan, that was for runs chasing 302

just 2 games ago, my forgetful mate...(excluding minnow teams - but you asked for bigger teams, right)

265 chasing against SL and that too not even trying to chase 307 and that was without any contribution from ash or SN.

BD Tigers
March 7, 2007, 09:48 PM
India has the best batting line up in the world. period. But all this is on PAPER. They have to show it on the field. I have faith on our bowlers and fielders that we can restrict them but we need to field first except if it is not overcast or damp pitch.

Farhad
March 7, 2007, 10:13 PM
Guys dont worry, Indian bowling isnt that strong of a line up. Their pacers had real trouble getting the dutch batsmen out. I predict we can tackle the Indian bowlers. I had a fear that we would not be able to restrict their batsmen, but that too changed when I saw the result against NZ. NOw that being said if we played our total potential and dont panic under pressure (which we mastered watching the last 3 games) then we can beat India just like any other team.

:-/ They got netherlands all out for 118.......Im just waiting for their next warm up against WI to see how good they play on foreign soil (recently)

rafiq
March 8, 2007, 12:45 AM
Beating India is not impossible....it's just unlikely. However, we may have a bigger chance to upset India than SL, maybe just because the Indians are always over-confident and don;t seem to take Bangladeshi cricket seriously....

shovon13
March 8, 2007, 04:15 AM
al Furqaan, that was for runs chasing 302

you missed his point. srilanka set us a target of 303. bangladesh got off to a bad start. they were 78/4 in the 19th over. they were never in the chase. they still managed 265 with ashraful scoring 18 off 43 (he opened), sn scoring 5 off 22, bashar scoring a golden duck, and pilot playing (he had a sr. of 100 atleast for the 8 runs he scored).

i'd say we have a fair chance of putting up 300 against the indian bowling attack, given we have tamim instead of ashraful opening with nafees, bashar and ashraful in a better form, mushfiqur rahim, and mashrafe's batting abilities on flat pitches (which i think will extend to sporting wickets as well, if he bats straighter)

israr
March 8, 2007, 07:46 AM
People are sometimes just too pessimistic

Spitfire_x86
March 8, 2007, 09:13 AM
just 2 games ago, my forgetful mate...(excluding minnow teams - but you asked for bigger teams, right)

265 chasing against SL and that too not even trying to chase 307 and that was without any contribution from ash or SN.
Most of those 265 runs came when the match was truly over, hence it's useless. The way we batted, if the target was 265 we would still fall at least 50 runs short.

When was the last time we scored 250 batting first against a decent opposition? In fact, the question should be how many times? And everyone knows how many times we've successfully chased >=250.

Spitfire_x86
March 8, 2007, 09:17 AM
you missed his point. srilanka set us a target of 303. bangladesh got off to a bad start. they were 78/4 in the 19th over. they were never in the chase. they still managed 265 with ashraful scoring 18 off 43 (he opened), sn scoring 5 off 22, bashar scoring a golden duck, and pilot playing (he had a sr. of 100 atleast for the 8 runs he scored).

i'd say we have a fair chance of putting up 300 against the indian bowling attack, given we have tamim instead of ashraful opening with nafees, bashar and ashraful in a better form, mushfiqur rahim, and mashrafe's batting abilities on flat pitches (which i think will extend to sporting wickets as well, if he bats straighter)
I think you missed the point. When the runs truly mattered, we failed to score and wilted under pressure. And when the game virtually over, we managed to scrap some useless runs because by then our opposition couldn't be bothered to save few runs.

shovon13
March 8, 2007, 01:45 PM
I think you missed the point. When the runs truly mattered, we failed to score and wilted under pressure. And when the game virtually over, we managed to scrap some useless runs because by then our opposition couldn't be bothered to save few runs.

meh....i still stick to my point. we had an early set back, which we overcame with an impressive recovery. posting 260+ against the lankans after losing half of your middle order is not too shabby at all. i used that game to show that we wont need an apocalypse to post 300 against india/lanka

AsifTheManRahman
March 8, 2007, 04:19 PM
we have to bowl really well to win, at least better than we bat. our bowling can win us games, probably not so much our batting.

akabir77
March 8, 2007, 04:37 PM
we have to bowl really well to win, at least better than we bat. our bowling can win us games, probably not so much our batting.

You r 100% correct.

Mav
March 8, 2007, 04:46 PM
Toss winning is a big key for the game. Since India has a strong batting line up, I am sure they will put us in to bat first, if they win the toss.

If we dont score 270+, there is JUST NO WAY we can win against the Current Indian Batting line up. Dravid, Sehwag, Dhoni, Tendulkar are not kids..

If we win the toss and can restrict them below 250, We have a match - since Indian bowling line up isnt as strong as the World top nations.

So toss will say a lot.

Tigers_eye
March 8, 2007, 04:49 PM
Toss winning is a big key for the game. Since India has a strong batting line up, I am sure they will put us in to bat first, if they win the toss.

If we dont score 270+, there is JUST NO WAY we can win against the Current Indian Batting line up. Dravid, Sehwag, Dhoni, Tendulkar are not kids..

If we win the toss and can restrict them below 250, We have a match - since Indian bowling line up isnt as strong as the World top nations.

So toss will say a lot.
Excellent point and I totally agree. And that way rasel-mash combo can be at their best.

Mav
March 8, 2007, 04:54 PM
Excellent point and I totally agree. And that way rasel-mash combo can be at their best.

Yes Rasel and Mash must play. Shahadat too.

I'd pick Rasel over Tapash Anyday. Rasel's line is lot better than Tapash and he also uses his brain over muscle, which can only be helpful. We have seen tapash getting beat up many times.

And, Given we win the toss, Bashar has to be best in his captaincy, to use the right bowlers at right moments - even if we bowl 6 or 7 bowlers including Rajin - Asraful.

allrounder
March 8, 2007, 05:03 PM
The realistic run chase for Bangladesh would be 220-230 range, beyond that it is tough to achieve.

Duck
March 8, 2007, 05:28 PM
Bangladesh will win the match against IND, only if all the stars line up in a st. line on that day (I mean night)! Finger crossed!

Fazal
March 8, 2007, 05:40 PM
Worry? For what? We have Tamim, Aftab and Ash to shake and SN, Bashar, Skaib and Rahim to bake. And then Mashrafee, Rafiq, Razzzak and Rasel will have the real feast.

Don't worry ... be happy (for now) before the game starts!!!!! tar porey... porer chinta porey kora jabey. Otherwise pretty soon you guys will have heart attack !!!!

Duck
March 8, 2007, 07:15 PM
Worry? For what? We have Tamim, Aftab and Ash to shake and SN, Bashar, Skaib and Rahim to bake. And then Mashrafee, Rafiq, Razzzak and Rasel will have the real feast.!!!!

You forgot to add saqib as the 5th bowler........anyway, with this 5 bowler, do you think BD can feast on IND batsmen?:-/

Rabz
March 8, 2007, 07:18 PM
No worries against India.
There are no set plans, we will play according to thier merit.
We will ask them lift up thier performance and match it with ours.
Shoulders must be heavier on thier side with a burden of a billion.
We have nothing to loose.
We are there to win.
Loosing is not an option.
Second round is the destination.
Whoever comes along the way will get demolished.
Forget the names and the faces, they are all the same to me.
If they score 400, we will make 401 to win.
If we score 150, we will restrict them to 149.

We will win the match Inshallah.
This is our time.

We have done it, we can do it again.
Dravid who?

Orpheus
March 8, 2007, 07:26 PM
Bowling O M R W
Mashrafe Mortaza 10 0 60 0 (3w)
Hasibul Hossain 6 0 53 0
Mushfiqur Rahman 6 0 52 0 (1w)
Khaled Mahmud 10 0 62 3
Mohammad Rafique 10 1 63 1 (1w)
Aftab Ahmed 2 0 16 0
Rajin Saleh 6 0 38 1 (2w)

With This team we can chase 300+ score from india or Sri Lanka

If Banglacricket XI faces that bowling attack, we can also score 300+

allrounder
March 8, 2007, 07:27 PM
we also have to have attacking fielding and putting pressure on the batting side, there were times we are very relaxed and give away runs easily. fielding has always played a major role in many of our wins against bigger teams

Hatebreed
March 8, 2007, 07:29 PM
Our best chance to win is bowl India out for 230-40 as it's within our run chase capability. If we bat first, we must post at least 260+ and that's gonna be very difficult if not impossible. We must field really well to hold India back.

Duck
March 8, 2007, 09:04 PM
No worries against India.
There are no set plans, we will play according to thier merit.
We will ask them lift up thier performance and match it with ours.
Shoulders must be heavier on thier side with a burden of a billion.
We have nothing to loose.
We are there to win.
Loosing is not an option.
Second round is the destination.
Whoever comes along the way will get demolished.
Forget the names and the faces, they are all the same to me.
If they score 400, we will make 401 to win.
If we score 150, we will restrict them to 149.

We will win the match Inshallah.
This is our time.

We have done it, we can do it again.
Dravid who?

wow!...................:-/
Liked this one: "Forget the names and the faces, they are all the same to me." (Do you mean if it is a day-night match and there is a loadshading?);)

JamesBond
March 8, 2007, 09:27 PM
India has the best batting line up in the world. period. But all this is on PAPER. They have to show it on the field. I have faith on our bowlers and fielders that we can restrict them but we need to field first except if it is not overcast or damp pitch.

doesnt matter, we will win, the vegetarians will pee their pants.!!!L-)

kalpurush
March 8, 2007, 11:15 PM
I think the BD-NZ match has done more good to India than BD.

The only way(I think) that BD can beat India is if India are complacent and BD does a counter attach (similar to the one against Aus in the first test in BD) and India is taken offgaurd

The BD-NZ match is an eye opener to India and I guess India will be vary and I predict a strong performance by India.

Very logical...hope not true though!;)

Duck
March 8, 2007, 11:17 PM
Ground where BD will play against India on March17:
Queen's Park Oval, Trinidad (http://www.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/ground/59475.html)

Let's see last 10 matches played here:
Queen's Park Oval, Port of Spain, Trinidad - ODIs - Team innings by innings list

Filter: most recent 10 matches.
Sort order: chronological.

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2 SA 232/4 46.5 50 232 W day

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2 Zim 72/2 12.1 30 191 N day

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2 Zim 162 49 50 267 L day

Zim 218/8 50 50 - W day ICC Dev 1 Can v Zim 2006 [2374 (http://statserver.cricket.org/db/ARCHIVE/2006/OD_TOURNEYS/3-NAT_WI/SCORECARDS/CAN_ZIM_3-NAT_WI_ODI1_16MAY2006.html)]
2 Can 75 28.5 50 219 L day

1 Can 157/9 49 49 - L day ICC Dev 2 Ber v Can 2006 [2375 (http://statserver.cricket.org/db/ARCHIVE/2006/OD_TOURNEYS/3-NAT_WI/SCORECARDS/BMDA_CAN_3-NAT_WI_ODI2_17MAY2006.html)]
2 Ber 153/7 42.3 44 150 W day

1 Zim 338/7 50 50 - W day ICC Dev 3 Ber v Zim 2006 [2376 (http://statserver.cricket.org/db/ARCHIVE/2006/OD_TOURNEYS/3-NAT_WI/SCORECARDS/BMDA_ZIM_3-NAT_WI_ODI3_18MAY2006.html)]
2 Ber 144/7 50 50 339 L day

1 Zim 259/7 50 50 - W day ICC Dev F Ber v Zim 2006 [2378 (http://statserver.cricket.org/db/ARCHIVE/2006/OD_TOURNEYS/3-NAT_WI/SCORECARDS/BMDA_ZIM_3-NAT_WI_ODI-FINAL_20MAY2006.html)]
2 Ber 176 47.2 50 260 L day

1 Ind 217/7 50 50 - L day 4th ODI WI v Ind 2006 [2381 (http://statserver.cricket.org/db/ARCHIVE/2006/IND_IN_WI/SCORECARDS/IND_WI_ODI4_26MAY2006.html)]
2 WI 218/4 44 50 218 W day

1 WI 255/6 50 50 - W day 5th ODI WI v Ind 2006 [2382 (http://statserver.cricket.org/db/ARCHIVE/2006/IND_IN_WI/SCORECARDS/IND_WI_ODI5_28MAY2006.html)]
2 Ind 236 48 50 256 L day

I = innings in match, Bat = batting team, R/W = runs/wickets, Ov = overs, Li = over limit, Tar = target to win in final innings, R = match result (W T D N L = won, tied, drawn, no result, lost), d/n = day or a day/night match.


If you emphasise on the matches of WI against (and also the others) SA/IND, it seems that the runs per innings are between 210 to 240, which is within the reach of our fight! I have also checked all other matches, which seems the same low scoring. The only match to produce over 300 was played between ZIM and Bermuda.

How did the Indian spinners do:
Harbhajan Singh (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/player/29264.html) bowled 20 (10+10 in 2 matches) at 4.7 Econ rate with 1 wicket.
RR Powar (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/player/32391.html) (offspiner) bowled 9 overs at 6.22 rate taking 2 wk
Yuvraj Singh (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/player/36084.html) bowled 2 overs at 5.00 rate taking 0 wk
V Sehwag (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/player/35263.html) bowled 10 overs at 2.90 rate taking 1 wk

It seems except for Sehwag, others did not do that great considering either the wckt or economy.

kalpurush
March 8, 2007, 11:50 PM
We have a thought job....on 17th...to beat India!...look at the stat!!

Queen's Park Oval is generally thought of as the most picturesque of the old grounds in the West Indies. It is also the largest, accommodating 25,000 spectators in comfort. Home of the Queen's Park Cricket Club (QPCC) since 1896, it hosted the English teams touring the West Indies early in 1897 one under Lord Hawke, the other under Arthur Priestley. The capacity of the ground has made it most profitable (holding at least 7000 more than any other ground in the West Indies). The pavilion was erected in 1896 and by and large, remained unchanged until 1952 when it was replaced by a two-tiered structure. Natural turf was used in the early years for matches. However, damage cased by the mole-cricket in the soil rendered it impossible to prepare turf pitches. For forty years thereafter, a clay strip was used, over which matting was laid. The final Test played on matting was in 1954 when West Indies scored 681 for 8 and England 537 in reply. Within three months, the pitch had been removed and efforts were underway to replace the centre square with turf.
Queen's Park has been described as a classic ground with breathtaking backdrops, most notably, the northern hills. No section of the crowd captures the spirit of Trinidad than the 'Concrete Stand', renamed the Learie Constantine Stand. The fans are avid followers of the game, excitable and generally enjoy their cricket, led by a character affectionately known as 'Blue Food'.
While it has witnessed some dramatic performances by West Indies - it was here that England were blown away for 46 in 1994-95 - it has also staged some lows. In 1967-68 Garry Sobers's generous declaration allowed England to win by seven wickets, and in doing so level the series, while in 1976-77 India scored a then record 406 for 4 to beat Clive Lloyd's side.
Like most grounds in the region, it underwent a facelift ahead of the 2007 World Cup.
Cricinfo

sufism
March 9, 2007, 12:12 AM
we have to make dhoni bat first, then we could think about getting him out. I don even think he will have to bat at all.

al Furqaan
March 9, 2007, 12:19 AM
Most of those 265 runs came when the match was truly over, hence it's useless. The way we batted, if the target was 265 we would still fall at least 50 runs short.

truly ridiculous statement (target WAS NOT 265, it was 307 or 302)...if the game was played in pitch darkness, our bowlers could have limited SL to 10 runs in 50 overs...

but seriously, thats like saying, that if the Aussies knew RSA would chase down 434, they would have posted 440 to be safe. dumb, dumb, dumb.

When was the last time we scored 250 batting first against a decent opposition? In fact, the question should be how many times? And everyone knows how many times we've successfully chased >=250.

not quite as pathetic, but equally irrelevant.

if we bat first, we are sure to lose to India...no one is doubting that. but given india's bowling attack, if our batsman don't lose their heads, then yes 300 is theoretically possible, tho 275 is a realistic top score. and 250 is something we EXPECT if we bat first no matter who the opposition, given a decent wicket.

our strategy is not to bat first...its to field first. and in this case we chased 265 against SL not long ago. any doubts about that number have been refuted in the first part of my post.

enjoy.

:flag:

Farhad
March 9, 2007, 11:17 AM
There seem to be many worries against India. Theyve got WI down to 68/8!!

akabir77
March 9, 2007, 11:46 AM
There seem to be many worries against India. Theyve got WI down to 68/8!!

is there any live radio on this game?

allrounder
March 9, 2007, 11:47 AM
by the time you go and find the link, the match is over

Farhad
March 9, 2007, 12:17 PM
There seem to be many worries against India. Theyve got WI down to 68/8!!

I might have spoken too early. According to Crackinfo (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/current/story/284614.html) the Windies just threw away their wickets...Pathan was all over the place, whereas Patel was better ("On line more often than not")

FaridpurChicago
March 9, 2007, 12:36 PM
you missed his point. srilanka set us a target of 303. bangladesh got off to a bad start. they were 78/4 in the 19th over. they were never in the chase. they still managed 265 with ashraful scoring 18 off 43 (he opened), sn scoring 5 off 22, bashar scoring a golden duck, and pilot playing (he had a sr. of 100 atleast for the 8 runs he scored).

i'd say we have a fair chance of putting up 300 against the indian bowling attack, given we have tamim instead of ashraful opening with nafees, bashar and ashraful in a better form, mushfiqur rahim, and mashrafe's batting abilities on flat pitches (which i think will extend to sporting wickets as well, if he bats straighter)

We have a fair chance of scoring high if not 300. All of our players are in good form. I never saw Ashraful scoring so many 20+ constantly. Bashar is in his best ODI form for his 100 ODIs he played. He just needs to check his run out tendency. Aftab (inshallah will play) will match Dhoni and do better in every pixel. Mash will do better than any of their pacers. Rafiq/Razzak pair will do nothing less than Harbhajan/Kumble. We don't have any batsman as unreliable as Shewag. They have to depend on their part time bowlers. Sakib is our genuine bowler who checks runs a picks up wicket periodically.
Why people are worrying. We have to perform to our potential that we are doing.

So far we said we will win "jodi laigya jay good luck".
I would like to say now that we will win "jodi na laigya jay bad luck".

allrounder
March 9, 2007, 01:49 PM
What i am worrying about after watching Agarkar, Munaf, Zaheer is that they will be aiming for the edges that our batsmen are so prone to give and then throw away wkt unnecessarily.

nzfan
March 9, 2007, 01:57 PM
i have to admit guys arnt you being a bit too complacent?


the blackcaps beat australia 3-0 so their confidence was high and then they lose to you guys... so just because you beat the blackcaps doesnt mean you will definately beat india

different day different game
and also its the cricket world cup,india wont be wanting to slip up at all

AsifTheManRahman
March 9, 2007, 02:18 PM
and also its the cricket world cup,india wont be wanting to slip up at all

exactly. this in itself reduces our chances of pulling off an upset quite a bit. we will have to play a lot better than we did against new zealand to beat india.

sadi
March 9, 2007, 03:15 PM
We have a fair chance of scoring high if not 300. All of our players are in good form. I never saw Ashraful scoring so many 20+ constantly. Bashar is in his best ODI form for his 100 ODIs he played. He just needs to check his run out tendency. Aftab (inshallah will play) will match Dhoni and do better in every pixel. Mash will do better than any of their pacers. Rafiq/Razzak pair will do nothing less than Harbhajan/Kumble. We don't have any batsman as unreliable as Shewag. They have to depend on their part time bowlers. Sakib is our genuine bowler who checks runs a picks up wicket periodically.
Why people are worrying. We have to perform to our potential that we are doing.


I agree with most parts but people worries because you forgot to mention the most important parts. You kinda compared most of their team members with ours but left out the one that matters. Ganguly, Dravid, Tendulkar. Thats why people worry. Their batting attack worries everyone.

BangladeshCricket
March 9, 2007, 04:56 PM
There is no way we can avoid our worries...take it simply it's too early for us to beat big guns now and then...we are not that level yet. So, just have reasonable expectations.

sufism
March 10, 2007, 02:08 AM
There is no way we can avoid our worries...take it simply it's too early for us to beat big guns now and then...we are not that level yet. So, just have reasonable expectations.

Ekdom moner kotha bolsen BangladeshCricket bhai. just have reasonable expectations.

soccer20reverse
March 10, 2007, 02:36 AM
Its reasonable to say that bangladesh has a 80-20 chance of winning this match.... and its much better then 95-5 we had 5 years ago.... so I say we're improving... to maybe even cause an upset over india... but it will be anything but easy....

CricFanBD
March 10, 2007, 02:55 AM
BD didn't go to the Windies for winning the cup or for going to the 2nd round...just BD wants to win one big match against Ind or Sri...thats all...BD does not need to worry, just calm and quiet...play his natural game and see what happens at the end. On the other hand Ind or Sri needs to worry about BD a lot...cause they are thinking themselves as a winner of 2007 WC. BD has nothing to loose...but they have everything....

billah
March 10, 2007, 03:16 AM
I digress:

Do you guys belive that this is the picture of a 23 year old? Just wondering.

http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/59500/59554.1.jpg

maihu_don
March 10, 2007, 04:06 AM
I digress:

Do you guys belive that this is the picture of a 23 year old? Just wondering.

http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/59500/59554.1.jpg

...3 ...2 ....1 ..GO

Start a anti India thread and send loads of mails to indian media , cricinfo ( ... soorry ... Crapinfo) , president of india etc .......

sheshprohor
March 10, 2007, 09:18 AM
Our trump card is Tamim...if we can have a firing start from him...everything is okay...no matter we bat first or 2nd.

Sovik
March 10, 2007, 10:37 AM
I digress:

Do you guys belive that this is the picture of a 23 year old? Just wondering.

http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/59500/59554.1.jpg

if out javed is 28 why can't be 23. and he is not playing any age level tournament

al Furqaan
March 10, 2007, 12:01 PM
different day different game
and also its the cricket world cup,india wont be wanting to slip up at all

exactly...

a win against anyone for us is largely unlikely...but it works both ways.

i don't read anything to india's performance against WI...just one day, one game.