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Miraz
March 14, 2007, 09:05 AM
From BanglaCricket News (http://www.banglacricket.com/html/tour.php)

"Our batting will be the key against India. They must take advantage of a slightly weaker Indian bowling attack. If we can upset either India or Sri Lanka, we can progress to the second round," observed Aminul Islam while talking to the journalists. Aminul is currently in the Caribbean to watch Tigers in action.

Read full news (http://www.banglacricket.com/html/tour.php)

IMO, he was quite right about India time. I was surprised to see his comment about Bangladesh team and especially about his point 'lack of all-rounder' and 'Pinch Hitter'.

Aftab, Sakib are true all-rounder, Ash can also fill few overs. At the death Rafique, Mashrafee is more than enough as Pinch Hitter.

SS
March 14, 2007, 10:27 AM
I had to comment on this. First of All, Aminul pointed out few important points that our SLA bowling dept is too predictable without any 'variation' or 'extra tricks'. 30 overs of SLAs will just give opportunity of opponent to settle down. Besides, Mashrafee, we have only Rasel, who is doing ok. But we have no other good third seamer to support him.

Aminul also pointed out key thing which is our batting. Our winning or even doing better in matches rely almost over 65% in batting stablility.

Also liked his comment that we lacking a player like Lance, we have Mashrafee but how much he can do by himself.

It's too late to change something overnight, but I believe we should atleast try our best.

SS
March 14, 2007, 10:33 AM
From BanglaCricket News (http://www.banglacricket.com/html/tour.php)
Aftab, Sakib are true all-rounder, Ash can also fill few overs. At the death Rafique, Mashrafee is more than enough as Pinch Hitter.

Currently, Aftba and Ash is only batting. Rafique more concentrating in bowling.
Sakib and Mashrafee are two, who showing some allrounding performance.
I believe Aminul observation is right and something we should have planned four years ago after WC2003. We improved but we were not given enough chances to play against Quality opponents to see how we perform. Even consistency among most players is absent. SN scores 100 and next game he scores a duck. Where is the consistency and major rectification of the mistakes they made. Especially our batsmen are throwing away wicket or getting out when they are set. This problem still exists and I think this will be the key to determine our success.

FaridpurChicago
March 14, 2007, 10:53 AM
From BanglaCricket News (http://www.banglacricket.com/html/tour.php)

IMO, he was quite right about India time. I was surprised to see his comment about Bangladesh team and especially about his point 'lack of all-rounder' and 'Pinch Hitter'.

Aftab, Sakib are true all-rounder, Ash can also fill few overs. At the death Rafique, Mashrafee is more than enough as Pinch Hitter.

I was watching his interview in Channel I. He lost the respect he had in my mind.

He's pretty much having the mentality he had before 8/10 years. Every now and then he was comparing this team with his 99 WC team. Probably he still dreams about playing this WC. He things JO the best opener. He is a strong supporter of Pilot!

Other than Razzak(Pak) there's no other all rounder in the subcontinent that we can compare with Sakib. Batting of Mashrafe can be somehow compared with Afridi. But Afridi is mainly a batter and Mashrafe's batting is totally a bonus. Rafiq + Mash pinch hitting is still the most positive considering all of our other dept even after substantial loss of Rafiq's batting ability.

What he said about 'Batting is the key to win' or 'We can move to second round if we can beat Ind or SL' is known to any elelementary school boy.

capslock
March 14, 2007, 11:28 AM
For those of you who think Indian media are only looking to bash us....

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<iframe name="fr1645" id="fr1645" src="http://ads.indiatimes.com/ads.dll/getad?slotid=1645" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" title="Advertisement" align="right" frameborder="0" height="400" scrolling="no" width="240">&lt;a href="http://ads.indiatimes.com/ads.dll/clickthrough?slotid=1645" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://ads.indiatimes.com/ads.dll/photoserv?slotid=1645" border="0" width="240" height="400" alt="Advertisement" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</iframe><!--google_ad_region_start=article--> PORT OF SPAIN, March 13: Bangladesh, surprise of surprises, believes India has a weaker bowling attack and is looking to outbat them in their clash of Group B in the 2007 World Cup on Saturday.

"Our batting will be the key against India. They must take advantage of a slightly weaker Indian bowling attack. If we can upset either India or Sri Lanka, we can progress to the second round," remarked Aminul Islam, first Test captain of the Bangladesh team.

Bangladesh has been in irresistible touch in recent times. It has beaten both New Zealand and Scotland in their warm-up games. They also beat Bermuda and Canada in a triangular series which preceded these warm-up matches. Bangladesh had also thrashed Zimbabwe 3-1 in a four-match series before embarking for the West Indies.

Bangladesh is basing its' form on their in-form batsmen who have been in superb nicks in recent times. Shahriar Nafees and Saqibul Hasan have smashed hundreds while Mohammad Ashraful and Habibul Bashar have helped themselves to half centuries in the Caribbean. Nafees, a young player of immense promise, completed 1000 one-day runs last year.

Bangladesh' bowling too has been in news for right reasons. Mashrafee bin Murtaza has taken 49 wickets, the highest by an international bowler last year while Abdur Razzak ran him close with 45 scalps.

Many reckon it's the best Bangladesh side ever to have played in a World Cup. They have had a fair share of wins in recent years, having beaten both Sri Lanka and India, their group B opponents, as well as mighty Australians in 2005.

"If the players adapt well, they have a good chance. There is a lot of expectations going into the tournament. It usually rubs off positively upon the players and make them work harder," remarks Khaled Mashud, who has been controversially left out of the team for the 2007 World Cup.

Aminul though doesn't forget the issues which can dog Bangladesh team in this World Cup.

"It doesn't have enough all-rounders, a must in one-day cricket and looks more like a Test outfit," remarked Aminul "Our bowling is also weak as both the spinners are left-arm spinners.'

Aminul also feels the team lacks a pinch hitter.

"Someone who can score a quick-fire 30 or 40 in the end gives the scoring rate the impetus, like Lance Klusener did for South Africa in the 1999 World Cup. However we don't have one."

Aminul also expressed doubt if Mashrafee is completely fit for the tournament.

Farhad
March 14, 2007, 11:36 AM
Completely lost respect for Aminul.....I mean, what the hell? Our teams more like a test team? Most of us have the exact opposite problem in our minds....Our team consists of too many "quick hitters"..Lets see, Tamim, followed immediately by Aftab, then Ash......I'm just stunned. I doubt he follows Bangladesh Cricket. Probably wanted some media attention.....

Rubu
March 14, 2007, 11:37 AM
I think we have that tail end hitter in Mashrafee. Problem is, Mash can only do his firework if we are batting first. I have not seen him doing anything special yet when we are chasing. But with some coaching Mash can be the person.

AsifTheManRahman
March 14, 2007, 11:38 AM
I have not seen him doing anything special yet when we are chasing.

forgetting new zealand? :)

FaridpurChicago
March 14, 2007, 11:44 AM
I think we have that tail end hitter in Mashrafee. Problem is, Mash can only do his firework if we are batting first. I have not seen him doing anything special yet when we are chasing. But with some coaching Mash can be the person.

Mash is Afridi is 'jodi laigya jai". It has nothing to do with batting first or last. But probably something to do woth the bowling quality. Sorry, I forgot his six against Bond.

Tigers_eye
March 14, 2007, 11:55 AM
Just within the last few months our batting is coming around but we all know it is not stable yet. With this type of batting order a team management don't have the luxury to have a jodi laigga jai at 7 (pinch hitter). Wake up Aminul!! Mushfiq is 10 times better than your pinch hitter Mashud. Rafiq and Mash are bowlers who can have a big day if they have their share of luck.

As for the alrounders, We don't have any long term stratigic plans for the team. Forhad's exclusion suggest that. He should have been there instead of your choice JO. Anyways, it is good to see Aftab bowling a little. Sakib is vying for the top SLA bowler for our country (challenging Razzak). So stop b*tching (aminul).

pagol-chagol
March 14, 2007, 12:00 PM
Nobody has Klusner.
Mr. Bulbul is a person who is in the business of self promotion. He has lost the only other skill he had with his age. Smart people learn about things and become better analyzer with age. Sadly, Bulbul isn't very smart. He needs to play politics to bring himself to a decision making position some day. Hopefully, that'll never happen.

AsifTheManRahman
March 14, 2007, 12:00 PM
actually, mash isn't all that jodi laiga jaay. he does seem to bat straighter than a lot of our top order batsmen at times. then again, he's a number 8, and you can't expect much from him other than pagla mair.

mushfiq's ok for number 7 atm, imo. we need someone who can score quickly (with a couple of boundaries) and rotate the strike at the same time at that position, so that someone from 5/6 or even 8/9 can do the mad hitting.

TheWatcher
March 14, 2007, 12:19 PM
It seems Bulbul has something against Mash-

‘We also don’t have a fit fast bowler. Mashrafee played for my team this year and I can tell you that he is not hundred per cent fit. Thus, it would be unrealistic to expect too much from him,’ says Aminul, who coached Abahani this year.

- New Age (http://www.newagebd.com/2007/mar/13/spt.html)
I wonder why he is making so many negetive comments about our players. Anyway, I have lost all the respect I had for Bulbul.

AsifTheManRahman
March 14, 2007, 12:31 PM
well this is the time that everyone should back the team, not create tension/pressure. any sane person would understand that. amader problem eitai - ek jon upore uthle 5 jon tene dhore niche namay. desh pore - personal bepar shepar aage. i hope the boys don't listen too much to what outsiders have to say.

Murad
March 14, 2007, 12:42 PM
guys.......hes making indians fooools........ so that they take us lightly...... as indian journalists making us over-confident...we needed some1 like bulbul for that kind of talks..
thats just my thinkin,, could be wrong...:)

al Furqaan
March 14, 2007, 01:27 PM
It seems Bulbul has something against Mash-


I wonder why he is making so many negetive comments about our players. Anyway, I have lost all the respect I had for Bulbul.

if he said that, my opinion of bulbul goes down...

mash has been healthier than any fast bowler over the last 13 months...and has produced! what more do you want from a fast bowler who plays every match, leads the world in wickets, and takes them at an average of 20.

how much fitter could he be???

kalpurush
March 14, 2007, 06:42 PM
I had to comment on this.

Off course not only on this but on most posts...as we were missing you so much! Welcome back...SS bhai.:-D

moula
March 14, 2007, 06:53 PM
it is common sense that we need to bat really good in order to beat a batting rich team like india. amader cricketer ra nirash korbena, insallah

kmasum
March 14, 2007, 07:00 PM
guys.......hes making indians fooools........ so that they take us lightly...... as indian journalists making us over-confident...we needed some1 like bulbul for that kind of talks..
thats just my thinkin,, could be wrong...:)

hahah nice thought bro!!

moula
March 14, 2007, 07:07 PM
It seems Bulbul has something against Mash-


I wonder why he is making so many negetive comments about our players. Anyway, I have lost all the respect I had for Bulbul.

bulbul seems to be by nature a pessimist. i think this is the biggest difference of our old cricketers vs NEW ones. in bulbul's time, they always went to the field knowing tha inda will win. so they just tried to prolong their stay in wk. i understand, during those time, that was probably the right thing to do. what i dont understand is that why bringing such pessimistic comments about our current players now. he should rather encourage mashrafi for his awesome performance with new zealand. it is not mashrafi's job to bat really good, he comes at # 8. but he still did something exta and deserves credit; not useless words of despair(from bulbul)

allrounder
March 14, 2007, 07:07 PM
it is true that batting can really do it for Bangladesh. Being able to bat for 50 overs against india and sri lanka will definitely put the match in our hands. I really have to see if our batsmen have matured enough to play 50 overs against big teams. Hardly saw BD building a good 50/100 runs partnership against the big teams. So from that stat it is hard to believe that they really can bat 50 overs against india and sri lanka.

BanglaCool
March 14, 2007, 11:32 PM
it is true that batting can really do it for Bangladesh. Being able to bat for 50 overs against india and sri lanka will definitely put the match in our hands. I really have to see if our batsmen have matured enough to play 50 overs against big teams. Hardly saw BD building a good 50/100 runs partnership against the big teams. So from that stat it is hard to believe that they really can bat 50 overs against india and sri lanka.
We are talking about a possible win against these teams and you are suggesting that we can't bat for 50 overs?

allrounder
March 15, 2007, 10:07 AM
win is always a possibility, but what I would like to see from BD is to show their maturity and stability in terms of batting against the big teams. We struggle to play 50 overs and score beyond 250 against them.