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Tigers_eye
March 26, 2007, 12:27 PM
Fans riot, Chappell blamed as India fails

<LI class=byline><CITE>Bruce Loudon, New Delhi</CITE>
March 26, 2007DESPAIR, destruction and even death was seen in India yesterday as cricket fans expressed outrage at the country's looming early exit from the World Cup.

India's 69-run loss to Sri Lanka all but ended its chances of progressing to the Super Eight stage, prompting mob chants of "Greg hatao, desh bachao" ("Remove Greg, save the country") across several major cities as protesters named Australian coach Greg Chappell as the No.1 culprit for the national disaster. Most believe Chappell's association with Indian cricket is over.
Senior officials at the Board of Control for Cricket in India suggested Chappell's contract, which expires after the World Cup, will not be renewed.
"He was brought in to make India perform in the cup and has failed," one BCCI official said.
Already Australia's departing coach John Buchanan and former captain Steve Waugh, who has strong links to India through his charity work, have been mentioned as possible replacements.

FULL STORY
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21444514-2722,00.html

I am sure Buchanan will not take it because he wanted more family time. But if Stevie goes to India that would the worse thing he can do to his legacy.

Kabir
March 26, 2007, 12:40 PM
Chappell didn't fail, the whole team failed. I don't understand why people don't realize this. If a team fails, it's not because of one person who didn't perform. It's because of the whole team who couldn't perform...why point fingers at just one person?

Tigers_eye
March 26, 2007, 12:49 PM
On any project failure the blame goes to the project manager no matter what. He was the project manager for India to get them to a better standard. You know after getting their a** kicked they would never give credit to us and the lankans but would point fingers to the coach.

But the real problem wouldn't be unearthed as usual (Which I love it). The inability of the star players performing overseas, the arrogance and the infighting power struggle.

akabir77
March 26, 2007, 01:03 PM
On any project failure the blame goes to the project manager no matter what. He was the project manager for India to get them to a better standard. You know after getting their a** kicked they would never give credit to us and the lankans but would point fingers to the coach.

But the real problem wouldn't be unearthed as usual (Which I love it). The inability of the star players performing overseas, the arrogance and the infighting power struggle.
So when is mr pawar is saying mr chappel "YOU ARE FIRED!"

allrounder
March 26, 2007, 02:03 PM
While, former cricketer Sandeep Patil tipped to be the interim coach for Team India, BCCI sources added.
Patil has coached India once back in 1996 and was also the member of the 1983 World Cup winning squad. Patil surprised the cricket world by guiding minnows Kenya as coach to the semi-finals at the last World Cup.


Source: http://www.cricketnext.com/news/kumble-announces-retirement-from-odis/23975-13.html

Nocturnal
March 26, 2007, 02:07 PM
So when is mr pawar is saying mr chappel "YOU ARE FIRED!"

After april 7, I guess.
source: http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/287330.html

allrounder
March 26, 2007, 02:23 PM
he cannot be fired, all they can say is your contract would not be extended.

Fazal
March 26, 2007, 04:00 PM
he cannot be fired, all they can say is your contract would not be extended.

You are talking about the legal and technical apsect. For all practical purpose its same thing as firing.

Fazal
March 26, 2007, 04:08 PM
On any project failure the blame goes to the project manager no matter what. He was the project manager for India to get them to a better standard.

If he is the technical project manager, then Mr Pawar is the sponsor project manager(non-technical). Its like: If the coach is the construction engineer, the selection committee is the architect and Mr Parwar is the fianancer of the project. Why should the buck stops upto to the coach and not all the way up. Just looks at what happened in pakistan. We can redicule them but their board has much more self dignity than these BCCI executives.

psj
March 27, 2007, 03:39 AM
Just looks at what happened in pakistan. We can redicule them but their board has much more self dignity than these BCCI executives.

:floor: :floor:

scoilaheez
March 27, 2007, 04:37 AM
BD should look into Steve Waugh. But we should keep Whatmore.

India need to go after an Indian coach and make a focus of fielding.

Tigers_eye
March 27, 2007, 08:59 AM
If he is the technical project manager, then Mr Pawar is the sponsor project manager(non-technical). Its like: If the coach is the construction engineer, the selection committee is the architect and Mr Parwar is the fianancer of the project. Why should the buck stops upto to the coach and not all the way up. Just looks at what happened in pakistan. We can redicule them but their board has much more self dignity than these BCCI executives.
Its not like that. Mr. Pawar is kind of like the CEO. It is easy to blame the the Project Manager (PM). Project team-leader (Rahul Dravid) is definitely gone.

The CEO must face the Board of Directors (Consist of Indian media, Senetors, and some mastans/mob). His move is being closely monitored. He is hailed by almost everyone for making this a lucrative business. Imagine Nike having a higher deal with the Indian team (kits) than Mancester United.

Fazal
March 27, 2007, 09:10 AM
:floor: :floor:

You can laugh as much as you can...but the fact doesn't change.... can you say any of the following Indians resigned/retired after wc debacle?

a) Captain
b) Coach
c) Any BCCI top executives
d) The selectors

Plus read the news paper(s) and follow fans reaction:

In most of the indian newspaper what I see is just blaming game and flaw in the WC format. Same with the Indian fans. To me the fans are still in the goo-goo ga-ga land not realizing that the fault is within not outside and therefore the reform needs to come from inside: and the first stage is admitting thier own (BCCI, coach, captian, etc) fault and resign or retire.

In that aspect Pakistan is doing much better. So far so good. But can they compeletely recover? Thats a different question ... because of their past history of self inflicting conflict within the (Pakistan) cricket community. But that doesn't mean we need to ignore where they are doing right... i.e.

a. the Coach (before he was killed) emailed with his desire to resign
b. Enzy's retirment for ODI
c. The selectors resigned
d. The Chief resigned

This is call guts my friend... this is called taking the responsibilty and admiting their own failure... can you say the same things about some Inidian indiviuals (in similar positions)?

So fact remains.... you can laugh as much as you want.... other people will not laugh at you but pity you.

Tigers_eye
April 4, 2007, 08:36 AM
Well, Finally it is official Chappell did send his resignation citing personal and family reasons. So the search beings.

If India still keeps the old non-performing super heavy weights in the team for the may series, more power to BCCI. Similar awakening waits.

In my opinion, Dravid should be retained as captain Yuvraj as vice-captain, Shewag-dada-Tendu-Harbajan-zaheer-Agarkar should be shown the door. They have served India well but now is the time to go. Players like Uttapa, dhoni, kaif, Raina, sresanth, munaf are the future. But hey, emotional Indian fans, BCCI can't cut the ties with Tendu, lol. When you cross 30 your bones are not that strong as it was in 25. Obviously it wont be the same at 35 also.

Not all blame can be put on Chappell. The team must take responsibility. An Indian team without a coach should qualify for the second round unless they are over-rated or playing overseas.

gatekeeper
April 6, 2007, 06:39 AM
What BCCI needs to do is distinguish business from sport. You need money and sponsorship to sustain the game, sure, but exactly where do you stop and say that the game itself should matter more. BCCI seems to have no answer and at times don't seem to care. All these older superstars get all sorts of leeway and keep holding onto their positions years after they should've left and BCCI allows this because it makes better BUSINESS sense.

I think this World Cup drubbing was needed for Idian's cricket future. It should serve as a wake up call.

Yasin
April 6, 2007, 12:49 PM
Dravid likely to remain captain

Anand Vasu in Mumbai

April 6, 2007

At the end of a long day of infinite rumour and speculation it has emerged that Rahul Dravid is set to stay on as India captain and Ravi Shastri has been offered the role of coach/cricket manager for next month's tour of Bangladesh, sources in the Board of Control for Cricket in India confirmed to Cricinfo. The BCCI's high-level meeting at the Wankhede Stadium to discuss India's performance at the World Cup also saw Greg Chappell being offered the post of consultant at the National Cricket Academy in Bangalore.

Alien
April 8, 2007, 09:50 PM
Running after Chappell or his replacement wont do much if your team wants to be a supermodels for pepsi.

India's team management needs to set their player's priority straight.