Is Tamim a real tiger or a pussy cat?

[betaar]

I know I may be shooting my own foot by typing the title of this thread, but one cannot help but wonder if Tamim is going to be a real tiger or Nafis Iqbal to be. I know it's too early to tell anything, but raw talent does not take too much to take notice.
I mean this guy has talents, no question, but the way he threw his wicket away against Bermuda is simply unacceptable. It just hurts to see players like him misusing their talents and in the process fade away....

Your thoughts...

[Mahir]

...one cannot help but wonder if Tamim is going to be a real tiger or Nafis Iqbal to be. I know it's too early to tell anything, but raw talent does not take too much to take notice.
I mean this guy has talents, no question, but the way he threw his wicket away against Bermuda is simply unacceptable. It just hurts to see players like him misusing their talents and in the process fade away....


You've summarized my thoughts very nicely. Nothing more to add.

[ammark]

I know I may be shooting my own foot by typing the title of this thread, but one cannot help but wonder if Tamim is going to be a real tiger or Nafis Iqbal to be. I know it's too early to tell anything, but raw talent does not take too much to take notice.
I mean this guy has talents, no question, but the way he threw his wicket away against Bermuda is simply unacceptable. It just hurts to see players like him misusing their talents and in the process fade away....

Your thoughts...

His batting looks like Ashraful's batting to me. He got out in difficult circumstance against Bermuda, but in his knock vs India he played at two extremes: Recklessly, and Masterfully. (D'ya remember that back foot square drive for 4?)

[capslock]

He was a tiger when it counted (match against India), if he can click in even every 3 matches it's enough I think. What concerns me however is Nafees' prolonged poor form, for normally I would expect him to compensate for an early Tamim wicket, but what's happening now is that both our openers are going out cheaply.

[Duck]

Against Bermuda, I dont complain about his out. It was nasty out there on the rain soaked pitch. The ball was darting like the mad. And above all the catch was stunner.

He is sent to the crease not as a saint, but to slain the bowlers. He is being used as the hit-man, who successfully demoralized Endian bowling and sang the blues!

Anyway, I believe with times he would be more selective for the loosners, and stop going after every ball.

[Duck]

He was a tiger when it counted (match against India), if he can click in even every 3 matches it's enough I think. What concerns me however is Nafees' prolonged poor form, for normally I would expect him to compensate for an early Tamim wicket, but what's happening now is that both our openers are going out cheaply.

Seems SN gets stunned by TI's batting and getting out early now a days! :)

[nafees_mashrafee]

tamim iqbal has been given license to hit at will by whatmore and bashar. he will get out cheaply in 3 out of 5 games, but he will rip bowling apart in 2 out of 5 games, which may give us more wins. he performed against NZ and India. i'm not worried yet. SN is going through a bad patch. he will do better in the super 8s.

[layperson]

Tamim is a Tiger who is lazy and roars to life every now and then. When he does roar he is a sight for the eyes. For now I would just leave it at that and let him be. We can re evaluate his position in the future if we see that keeping him is turning out to be more a burden than advantage. I would be happy if he can give us a flying start and score some half centuries every now and then ie. at least every 7 match.

[Arnab]

Tamim Iqbal is the most talented batsman Bangladesh has ever had.

[cricman]

tamim iqbal has been given license to hit at will by whatmore and bashar. he will get out cheaply in 3 out of 5 games, but he will rip bowling apart in 2 out of 5 games, which may give us more wins. he performed against NZ and India. i'm not worried yet. SN is going through a bad patch. he will do better in the super 8s.

:up:

[RazabQ]

Tamim Iqbal is the most talented batsman Bangladesh has ever had.Arnab decides to dabble in a bit of subcontinental hyperbole. But the answer I'm looking for is Ashraful. Tamim might have a good eye and power, but let him hit Harmison & Flintoff for sixers instead of Munaf & Zaheer and then we'll talk.

[shovon13]

both tamim and aftab are dealing with problems that ashraful knows only too well. both of these guys have a lot of shots in their hand. that combined with their youthful exuberance equal reckless batting. in time they'll come good (ash is further along this path then those two, which makes sense because he's been playing for a whole lot longer)

[Thunder]

I think he is a bit of pussy cat and a bit of a Tiger, a rare mixture of Tiger and pussycat. He is a Tigercat.. /:)

[Nasif]

Tamim is a great batsman. It was unlucky the way he got out in Bermuda match. That was a genuine powerplay shot, but the fielder made huge ground and caught that.

There is no question about Tamim's batting. He is here to stay.

[Arnab]

Arnab decides to dabble in a bit of subcontinental hyperbole. But the answer I'm looking for is Ashraful. Tamim might have a good eye and power, but let him hit Harmison & Flintoff for sixers instead of Munaf & Zaheer and then we'll talk.

If tiny, erratic, flukey Ashraful can do it, Tamim can too. Ashraful is cagey, small, uninspiring, inconsistent and his conversion ratio is abysmal. Ashraful is full of false courage, recklessness and unfulfilled potential and will likely forever remain so. Asraful is a mudir dokandar who's got some pretty knickknacks and got lucky.

Tamim is a genuine attacking batsman. Strong, forthright, talented, and he is born to deliver. Tamim means real business, big business.

[Arnab]

both tamim and aftab are dealing with problems that ashraful knows only too well.

Tamim is nothing like Ashraful or Aftab.

Aftab is even worse than Ashraful. Should be dropped immediately as soon as another Tamim-like talent comes through.

[Outswinger]

Don't say crap as Tamim never plays well against the minnows but with the real team he is ;

Just watch his average to find out ;

So , this is an useless thread ;

[scoilaheez]

He is the real deal. No doubt about that.

[tanvir_nus]

Please do not bash Aftab or Ashraful just to make Tamim look better, the problem with bangladeshi cricket fans is that they expect too much out of their players all the time. I am not saying that means "shath khun maaf" but it hasn't been too long since they are out of form, the super eight hasn't even started and the fans are pouncing on such technically gifted players such as Aftab and Ashraful. They have done it for us time and time again and there is no way we can think of an alternative just yet, however no body knows about the future.

I want to point out one thing about Tamim Iqbal,

With S.Nafees's slump in form, i think Tamim is in two minds whether to attack all out or look for the bad balls to hit like in the first match. Aftab and Tamim hit their way out of trouble, when things are not going right for them. I just think if Nafees was batting well and holding the other end steady with singles and occassional boundaries, we would have seen a whole new successful Tamim. And having followed him from his u-19 and premier league days I know one thing, if he gets to 20 there is no stopping for him, he will crack big time and score big time. He just needs to focus and look for the bad balls in the beginning and accept that the bowler will probably bowl 5 GOOD balls and 1 BAD ball, which he needs to hit... But only in the beginning, coz after 20 he will see the ball as big as anyone.

[Sovik]

we need power hitters like tamim and aftab in the team. they may fail somedays but if they click, we are in business

[Shaan]

Tamim Iqbal is the most talented batsman Bangladesh has ever had.

Agree completely, hope he does realize that and play his shot after bit settling down.. that's what all we want.. he reminded me of Lara on that day when he played shots against India.. but long way to go...

[Imteaz]

Hope for The Best.........

[Shaan]

If tiny, erratic, flukey Ashraful can do it, Tamim can too. Ashraful is cagey, small, uninspiring, inconsistent and his conversion ratio is abysmal. Ashraful is full of false courage, recklessness and unfulfilled potential and will likely forever remain so. Asraful is a mudir dokandar who's got some pretty knickknacks and got lucky.

Tamim is a genuine attacking batsman. Strong, forthright, talented, and he is born to deliver. Tamim means real business, big business.

Ashraful is talented no doubt about that, he can play strokes and prone to be attacking that has been proved many times, only thing is so far concerning is that Tamim played very few games.. he is on the learning process.. still time left to prove his ability. Ashraful on the other hand is most talented Batsman so far who is becoming more mature and can play any mode of game that has been proved in the last three matches. His shot ability, selection is far better then Tamim so far. But I like Tamim as well for his unique style.. these two are different and both are talented with own style. No comparison appropriate between them,just my opinion.

[sadi]

Tamim will only get better with experience. He is smart, he is fearless and with time, he will be unstopable. We need to be patient with him.

[Sovik]

and he is a superb fielder, probably the best in bd team

[Fazal]

His shot ability, selection is far better then Tamim so far.

Are you talking about the same Ash that we know of. We all agree about Ash's shot ability,.... but shot selection? Are you sure? His lack of 'shot selection' is killing his career so far... not his talent, style or shot ability.

If Tamim's shot selection is worse than Ash, then I see no hope in Tamin then.

In a serious note: its too early to say anything about Tamim. he have the talent, strength and the courage.... so every thing is in his favour. But that doesn't mean he will succeed. However I have a feeling, he is that type of player who will shine more when it matters most and when we are playing against stronger teams than minnors.

[betaar]

Against Bermuda, I dont complain about his out. It was nasty out there on the raint soaked pitch. The ball was darting like the mad. And above all the catch was stunner.

dude, not true, he didn't even stay there long enough to find that out, he only faced 2 balls remember. yes, he did get a chance to look at the way Nafees was getting beaten by the crazy swing and the movement off the pitch, which should've been an indication for him to watch the balls all the more closely.

Talent without brain will not take him too far, I hope he realizes that.

BTW - this thread is not to bash Tamim, or anybody else, rather a mere effort to understand his caliber. I am sure everyone else wishes him all the best and that's why we are putting out 2 cents.

[Tigers_eye]

Folks!!! Read with me.

He just turned 18.
He just turned 18.
He just turned 18.
He just turned 18.

What were you doing at the age of 18???? Starting to blow some puffs??? Or going after the girl next door?

Don't compare with a 30 year old or expect something a seasoned International batsman would give you. Lower your expectations.

[bengaltiger]

he should take his time to settle down and not go after the record of the fastest 50. i didn't understand his thinking when he slogged the 2nd ball he faced.

[bengaltiger]

Folks!!! Read with me.

He just turned 18.
He just turned 18.
He just turned 18.
He just turned 18.

What were you doing at the age of 18???? Starting to blow some puffs??? Or going after the girl next door?

Don't compare with a 30 year old or expect something a seasoned International batsman would give you. Lower your expectations.

idk what i was doing. but i know by 18 alexander conquered most of the known-world :)

younger age could be impressive but it is not an excuse. he is here because of his absolute abilites not because of his abilites relative to his age. and we want b'desh to be better than australia at its peak so i guess holding tamim to high standards is justified.

[Tigers_eye]

idk what i was doing. but i know by 18 alexander conquered most of the known-world :)

younger age could be impressive but it is not an excuse. he is here because of his absolute abilites not because of his abilites relative to his age. and we want b'desh to be better than australia at its peak so i guess holding tamim to high standards is justified.
Ahh! Alexandar!! The one and only. Wait Babur. Yea! Next in line Tendu.

Those are exceptions my friend. Welcome to earth. Space travelling can severly hamper rational thinking. I don't blame Indian fans anymore of over hyping their super stars.

Think hard what were you doing at the age of 18. That is if you passed that age.

[PoorFan]

Gyus, at least let the WC finish and than think of him, it's too early to say anything on him.

[fwullah]

Tamim Iqbal is the most talented batsman Bangladesh has ever had.

That may be true, but does he have the technique to play at the highest level? None of us had seen him play Test cricket yet, so can't say anything about his future.

[fwullah]

both tamim and aftab are dealing with problems that ashraful knows only too well. both of these guys have a lot of shots in their hand. that combined with their youthful exuberance equal reckless batting. in time they'll come good (ash is further along this path then those two, which makes sense because he's been playing for a whole lot longer)

Exactly! :up:

[fwullah]

Tamim is nothing like Ashraful or Aftab.

Aftab is even worse than Ashraful. Should be dropped immediately as soon as another Tamim-like talent comes through.

About Aftab being worse than Ashraful - do you mean Aftab's inability to bat like a genuine batsman (meaning he's only a pinch-hitter), or is there a hidden meaning in those words?

[fwullah]

and he is a superb fielder, probably the best in bd team

Agreed. His fielding compared to Shahriar Nafees was outstanding.

Going out of topic: If Shahriar Nafees continues to be out of form for around 2 to 3 tours / tournaments, he will be out of the final eleven in no time.

[Fazal]

If Shahriar Nafees continues to be out of form for around 2 to 3 tours / tournaments, he will be out of the final eleven in no time.

Isn't it true for every player?

If [name any player here] <NAME player any of>continues to be out of form for around 2 to 3 tours / tournaments, he will be out of the final eleven in no time

[napoleonIV]

we need power hitters like tamim and aftab in the team. they may fail somedays but if they click, we are in business


Please don't put Aftab and Tamim in the same category. The way Aftab was missing the line of the ball against Bermuda was disgraceful.

[Fortuner]

One thing every has to agree that is Tamim;s maiden 50 at the age of 17 and that to against quality bowlers like Zaheer,Munaf,lol showed that he has the right technique to not only play them but to blast it well in those powerplay condition.

Tamim is for me the best opening batsman bd has seen in ODI. Thats the kind we need. Everytime team has got some who is a blaster. We finally got one and yes he is not like his bro. Tamim;s attitude,technique is different than his bro.

Hope Tamim becomes something great. I would tamim to become a legend. I wont say tamim should become like Jaya,Afridi or Gilly. Let Tamim be Tamim. A wonderful Bangladeshi product.lol

[Shaan]

dude, not true, he didn't even stay there long enough to find that out, he only faced 2 balls remember. yes, he did get a chance to look at the way Nafees was getting beaten by the crazy swing and the movement off the pitch, which should've been an indication for him to watch the balls all the more closely.

Talent without brain will not take him too far, I hope he realizes that.

BTW - this thread is not to bash Tamim, or anybody else, rather a mere effort to understand his caliber. I am sure everyone else wishes him all the best and that's why we are putting out 2 cents.

totally agree..

[WarWolf]

I know I may be shooting my own foot by typing the title of this thread, but one cannot help but wonder if Tamim is going to be a real tiger or Nafis Iqbal to be. I know it's too early to tell anything, but raw talent does not take too much to take notice.
I mean this guy has talents, no question, but the way he threw his wicket away against Bermuda is simply unacceptable. It just hurts to see players like him misusing their talents and in the process fade away....

Your thoughts...

I don't know why people are so much impatient! Why should we act like Indian insane fans? Tamim is young. He just played a few matches. He will definitely come up. But if you want him to play like Jayasurya in every game then i'm sorry to say that he is not capable of fulfill your desire now. Please dont put too much pressure on him by expecting too much.

Another thing. I am happy with the way he approached the game vs Bermuda. He was superb at field. Also the shot he played had nothing wrong. It was the ball which moved a bit more than expected. He should have been at the wicket for a few overs more before start to play big shots. But don't worry. He will learn this things with time.

[Fazal]

Tamim may be a star or he may fail like many others.... but one thing we know for sure: Tamim is no 'pusy cat'.

The term 'pusy cat' is more appropriate for ODI players like Gullu and Mehrab who sometimes gives too much respect to ordinary oponent bowlers.

[Hatebreed]

Tamim is a cub. Over time he should mature and learn to play more shots to the ball's merit.

http://www.johnwasserman.com/web_photos/tigercub.jpg


He's certainly no pussy cat.

http://www.angmail.fsnet.co.uk/pictures/wildcat.jpg

[ruja1810]

I think he is a pussy cat :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[ruja1810]

Tamim is a cub. Over time he should mature and learn to play more shots to the ball's merit.

http://www.johnwasserman.com/web_photos/tigercub.jpg


He's certainly no pussy cat.

http://www.angmail.fsnet.co.uk/pictures/wildcat.jpg

My friend CJ thinks this is a cute cat :heart: :heart:

[ruja1810]

He is becoming like Ash!!(Either I hit it or I miss it).

[RazabQ]

Tsk, Tsk, people are eager to build em up only to tear em down. I'll give you that Tamim appears fearless, but so does Aftab! At Lords against the full might of England (when they had Troy), he tore into a top class attack and scored 80 odd. In the ODIs that followed, Ash hit a purple patch and dominated against two world class atacks (We are talking McGrath, Lee, Harmison, Flintoff here folks - not some Patel and Agarkar). To dismiss the inherent ability of those two is silly. To proclaim a kid who's had only 1-2 major innings as the second coming is sillIER! Let's see what Tamim does against Australia or Windies first please.

[Tigers_eye]

He is becoming like Ash!!(Either I hit it or I miss it).
Nope Ash knows how to block as well. He can go 30 balls without scoring. :) lol.

[kalpurush]

and he is a superb fielder, probably the best in bd team


Ash is still in the team!!!;)

[kalpurush]

My friend CJ thinks this is a cute cat :heart: :heart:

Yup!!that's our CJ i see.....!!!!!!!!!!!!;)
Your friend is good looking though!:D

[kalpurush]

He is becoming like Ash!!(Either I hit it or I miss it).

Didn't you watch the 1st round of WC 2007?! Lets find some video clips snd watch Ash's batting......I don't have to say anything else.:D

[Flipper]

Tamim is the mirror image of his brother, many of us may have forgotten, Nafis Iqbal, to a certain degree.

I remember the first few one day games Nafis played, and his fearlessness. He used to dance down the track to the fast bowlers, and that used to bring down his demise. Then he changed his game a bit, but kept getting caught behind. He subsequently, improved his technique enormously, and that lighted him up in the last test series against Sri Lanka</ST1:pla. Unfortunately, couple of bad performances, some injuries, and the emergence of some new faces kept him out of the main circle.

<O:p</O:pIn the same vein, I don't see a consistent player in Tamim; I see a flamboyant teen, who will have to change his game sooner than later. Otherwise, the way our selectors, and mob sentiments move, he will be in and out of the team very often than not.
<O:p</O:p
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Though I get to say, both are talented, have good techniques, and once they start playing smart cricket, they will serve our team for the longest time. It will be the Iqbal brothers who will open our innings!<O:p</O:p

[soccer20reverse]

Tamim is a Man. And This is a Man's sport. There is no place for a tiger or a pussy.

[allrounder]

Tamim is not married yet, so he is not a Man yet.

[TheWatcher]

I find it funny when people compare Tamim with his older bro. They are two very different kind of batsmen. Nafees is a short guy, a stroke player with strike rate around 50%. Tamim, on the other hand, is a tall power hitter with strike rate around 100%.

My opinion of Tamim ? A flat track bully, an excellent flat track bully.

[soccer20reverse]

Tamim is not married yet, so he is not a Man yet.

You dont need to be married to be a man. I guess according to you, Pope Benedict wasn't a Man. What you need to be a man is a cricket bat and not be scared to go pounce the ball out of the grounds.

Ps. Javed Omar isn't a man.

[Flipper]

Nafis's strike rate does not say anything about his earlier games. This is what Cricinfo has to say in his profile;
A young, crowd-pleasing opener, Nafees Iqbal is not one of nature's shrinking violets.

[ruja1810]

Didn't you watch the 1st round of WC 2007?! Lets find some video clips snd watch Ash's batting......I don't have to say anything else.:D

I meant the previous version of ASH. :-D

[ruja1810]

Yup!!that's our CJ i see.....!!!!!!!!!!!!;)
Your friend is good looking though!:D

but not as good looking as you.:-D :-D

[Duck]

dude, not true, he didn't even stay there long enough to find that out, he only faced 2 balls remember. yes, he did get a chance to look at the way Nafees was getting beaten by the crazy swing and the movement off the pitch, which should've been an indication for him to watch the balls all the more closely.

Talent without brain will not take him too far, I hope he realizes that.

BTW - this thread is not to bash Tamim, or anybody else, rather a mere effort to understand his caliber. I am sure everyone else wishes him all the best and that's why we are putting out 2 cents.

I thought it was a 21-over game not 50 overs, where you have the luxury to watch out. But he was sent by the captain and coach to demolish and walk!
I think, it was a real good power-play shot. He would do the same, if he got the next ball in the same spot!

[bengaltiger]

Ahh! Alexandar!! The one and only. Wait Babur. Yea! Next in line Tendu.

Those are exceptions my friend. Welcome to earth. Space travelling can severly hamper rational thinking. I don't blame Indian fans anymore of over hyping their super stars.

Think hard what were you doing at the age of 18. That is if you passed that age.

i thought i was pretty clear with what i said. there is a difference between deifying a player and holding him in high standards. if you don't agree with me i guess we have to agree to disagree.

[betaar]

He was superb at field. Also the shot he played had nothing wrong. It was the ball which moved a bit more than expected. He should have been at the wicket for a few overs more before start to play big shots. But don't worry. He will learn this things with time.

no body questioned his fielding ability, he is magnificent field'sman.
but this "Also the shot he played had nothing wrong. It was the ball which moved a bit more than expected." my friend is a contradictory statement. how can there be nothing wrong with the shot if he misjudged the ball. /:)

[Fortuner]

Arnab decides to dabble in a bit of subcontinental hyperbole. But the answer I'm looking for is Ashraful. Tamim might have a good eye and power, but let him hit Harmison & Flintoff for sixers instead of Munaf & Zaheer and then we'll talk.
Agree with u Razab.
Actually, it wont be unrealistic if we say Tamim can hit Aussie and English bowler becasuse he has what it takes to hit them. As things when done talks,we will have to wait and watch him more. He just played 7ODI's (hope aint rong there)

[kalpurush]

but not as good looking as you.:-D :-D


Much thanks for the compliments!;) :lol:

[Anher]

Only if tamim, ash and sakib click then you have a chance to win/fight against aus, sa, nz, WI, and eng.

[ammark]

Tsk, Tsk, people are eager to build em up only to tear em down. I'll give you that Tamim appears fearless, but so does Aftab! At Lords against the full might of England (when they had Troy), he tore into a top class attack and scored 80 odd. In the ODIs that followed, Ash hit a purple patch and dominated against two world class atacks (We are talking McGrath, Lee, Harmison, Flintoff here folks - not some Patel and Agarkar). To dismiss the inherent ability of those two is silly. To proclaim a kid who's had only 1-2 major innings as the second coming is sillIER! Let's see what Tamim does against Australia or Windies first please.

Amen! Perfectly put

Stop overemphasising everthing about Aftab Nafees Tamim and Ashraful.

[ruja1810]

Much thanks for the compliments!;) :lol:

Your welcome pussy cat! :lol:

[kmasum]

I think he is a bit of pussy cat and a bit of a Tiger, a rare mixture of Tiger and pussycat. He is a Tigercat.. /:)

he is notting but a natural tiger;)

[bengaltiger]

Only if tamim, ash and sakib click then you have a chance to win/fight against aus, sa, nz, WI, and eng.

i agree esp against NZ, WI and ENG.

[khalifa]

Only if tamim, ash and sakib click then you have a chance to win/fight against aus, sa, nz, WI, and eng.

I want to add SN to this list...he has to play a vital knock for any meaningful innings

[arafath79]

To me, hot blooded Tiger Tamim is the left handed Aftab Ahmed. He has got the tiger spirit when he clicks with the bat . He is barve enough to charge any kind of bowler. But he should use his feet to defend the ball and take the singles as well.

[topgun]

the answer is......bengalis talk too much rather they should work much much more.

btw the title cracks me up "Is Tamim a real......pussy..?" some ppl may be offended in this forum you know.

[Arnab]

Let's see what Tamim does against Australia or Windies first please.

Yes let's. Tamim will make you a believer. :)

[Miraz]

I really can't believe people are drawing conclusions only after 4-5 ODI's?

Give the kid a break. He played crucial role in both NZ and India win. Let him play for at least another year before jumping into any conclusion.

[Arnab]

That's fine. When Tamim becomes a world-beater, remember who spotted it first.

[Orpheus]

That's fine. When Tamim becomes a world-beater, remember who spotted it first.

We are thankful to God you are the selector of BD cricket...

[layperson]

We are thankful to God you are the selector of BD cricket...

:floor: :floor:

[betaar]

btw the title cracks me up "Is Tamim a real......pussy..?" some ppl may be offended in this forum you know.

get your mind off the gutter and stop twisting my words now :timeout:

[taklima_naj]

I really can't believe people are drawing conclusions only after 4-5 ODI's?

Give the kid a break. He played crucial role in both NZ and India win. Let him play for at least another year before jumping into any conclusion.

Thats true

[Anher]

I really can't believe people are drawing conclusions only after 4-5 ODI's?

Give the kid a break. He played crucial role in both NZ and India win. Let him play for at least another year before jumping into any conclusion.

just want to add few more words again ...without Tamim, ash and sakib to record a win in super8 is nearly 0

[Arnab]

We are thankful to God you are the selector of BD cricket...

Selectors are fickle, I have more trust on Tamim than the selectors. :)

[Spitfire_x86]

Arnab, didn't you have more faith on your eyes than the speedguns of Colombo when Rasel made his debut? Now it seems that those speedguns weren't really inaccurate.

[Arnab]

Arnab, didn't you have more faith on your eyes than the speedguns of Colombo when Rasel made his debut? Now it seems that those speedguns weren't really inaccurate.

I don't get it.

[Spitfire_x86]

I don't get it.
Match report: Bangladesh vs. Sri Lanka, First ODI (http://www.banglacricket.com/html/article.php?item=405)
Syed Rasel, on the other hand, impressed with his fluid action. He is a medium-fast bowler whose balls barely reach the wicketkeeper at waist-height. The speed gun showed his speed falling in the vicinity of low-to-mid 70s mph, but the actual speed of his fast balls seemed in the mid-80s, significantly faster than Tapash, who was shown by the speed gun to bowl at upper-70s.

The point is I don't have much confidence in your judgement. Your so bold predictions about Tamim being a world-beater makes me a little nervous :)

[Arnab]

I don't get it.
(http://www.banglacricket.com/html/article.php?item=405)Match report: Bangladesh vs. Sri Lanka, First ODI (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/../html/article.php?item=405)
Syed Rasel, on the other hand, impressed with his fluid action. He is a medium-fast bowler whose balls barely reach the wicketkeeper at waist-height. The speed gun showed his speed falling in the vicinity of low-to-mid 70s mph, but the actual speed of his fast balls seemed in the mid-80s, significantly faster than Tapash, who was shown by the speed gun to bowl at upper-70s.The point is I don't have much confidence in your judgement. Your so bold predictions about Tamim being a world-beater makes me a little nervous :)

Still don't get it.

How does me doubting the veracity of some speedgun-reading relate to my judgment on how talented a batsman is?

[Spitfire_x86]

Of course it doesn't prove anything, but maybe indicates that making bold predictions hastily isn't a good idea.

[Arnab]

Of course it doesn't prove anything, but maybe indicates that making bold predictions hastily isn't a good idea.

Forget proving, how do they even relate?

[betaar]

I had to dig this out and see what you guys think of him now.

Tamim definitely started as a tiger but got neutered and playing like a pussycat now a days. This is what happens when some one is talented but relies so heavily on 4 cricketing shots only.....once opposition figures him out he's doomed.

Let's see what he does tonight.

[WarWolf]

I had to dig this out and see what you guys think of him now.

Tamim definitely started as a tiger but got neutered and playing like a pussycat now a days. This is what happens when some one is talented but relies so heavily on 4 cricketing shots only.....once opposition figures him out he's doomed.

Let's see what he does tonight.
He has shown he is is a real tiger.

[betaar]

I had to reopen this thread and see what you guys think of Tamim Iqbal after all this time since the first couple of games of WC 2007. So, go ahead blast away.....

http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=19836

BTW - add Nazimuddin to this list too, looks like he's pulling a Tushar Imran in 20-20 so far.

Can the moderator pls move this thread from it's wilderness? Thanks.

[Fazal]

I don't know he is a Pussy cat or not... but he is a cat ..... no doubt about that.

[rumØrS]

DONT even ask man ... i would rather go with GULLA ...or SN , RAJIN is much better ..middle order n a opener .... our super stars dont last long enough..tamim stupid A$$ giving away his wickets same way again again ..FAV SHOT is R.SWIPE...but havent even tried 1s..whata moron..they should all go n play bakyard cricket or golli cricket...suuss INTERNATIONAL ...what a jok ... bring his brother bak

[Spitfire_x86]

He's not even a pussy cat, he is a newborn kitten who's eyes are yet to open.

[Rubu]

His technique is very bad, he does not have any shot on his hand beside going down the track and he lacks footwork.

the only reason he was successful against India was that they did not know about him. I sincerely hope, I'm wrong, but I don't think he will be successful in international arena in next 2/3 years.

If he uses a few years working on this weaknesses and then come back to national team later, he might be able to be successful, but not now.

I had always been against picking him, as it seemed too early to me. I just hope he will not turn out to be anther Kapali, one good innings, and ride on that for the entire career.

[zahid]

Pussy Cat na leikha Pussy ( Cat ) lekhar maneyta ki ?

[Imtiazk]

Neither. He simply has not got the class. Only the "on-the-up" cover drive. The rest are artificial and hence doomed to failure.

[Baundule]

Actually, the team management has ruined him.

[Fazal]

Pussy Cat na leikha Pussy ( Cat ) lekhar maneyta ki ?

Zahid Mamu Jaiga Moto Tip Marsee... kintu Mamu... Beshi Prosno Kora Bhalo na... abar Jodi BAN korey...

[zahid]

Zahid Mamu Jaiga Moto Tip Marsee... kintu Mamu... Beshi Prosno Kora Bhalo na... abar Jodi BAN korey...

:-D

[Hatebreed]

Hey, hey...... don't insult the cats.

[BanCricFan]

Actually, the team management has ruined him.

exantemente!

[ialbd]

i think he is taking tips from his big bro (nafis iqbal)...

he totally lost it.....

[Omio]

Cat is much more aggressive than Tamim. He is not a slog er either.

[cracky]

Why they keep picking Tamim as opener? Don't we have Syed Rassel. IMO, he is much better batsman than Tamim.

[Murad]

hes not a tiger nor a pusssy cat.. hes a RAT(eedurer bachcha)...shujog pailei dhor dei... shujog na paile dekha jai na.. tamim ke ekta bad ball dileii shei pit-te pare...else.. noo

he should be out of the national team for next 2-3 years.. faruk and co. did a mistake by picking him up so early..

[Spitfire_x86]

hhe should be out of the national team for next 2-3 years.. faruk and co. did a mistake by picking him up so early..
I highly doubt he would've changed if we hadn't picked him early for the national team. He was doing great in the domestic cricket with his current ability, so he proabably wouldn't change his game even if he played 3 more years before getting chance in the national team.

[Sohel]

A tiger he ain't
And he ain't a cat
Tamim Iqbal Khan's just a
Spoilt little brat ..

[Dhaka]

I had to reopen this thread and see what you guys think of Tamim Iqbal after all this time since the first couple of games of WC 2007. So, go ahead blast away.....

http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=19836

BTW - add Nazimuddin to this list too, looks like he's pulling a Tushar Imran in 20-20 so far.

Can the moderator pls move this thread from it's wilderness? Thanks.

TAMIM IS NOT A PUSSY CAT I WISH HE WAS. I AM SERIOUS ABOUT IT GUYS TAMIM IS A MOUSE:floor::floor::floor::floor::floor:

[Gowza]

he's talented just not ready for this level, he's got pretty good timing off the pads which i was impressed with but he has alot of work to do with his whole game if he wants to succeed at this level. for a T20 player he wastes too many balls by trying to smash them out of the ground but not connecting, may as well just go for the single if you're going to keep missing those, and he gives himself too much room to hit the ball.

i think S.Nafees atm for sure should be an opener in all formats for bangladesh, for ODIs and T20s it's a toss up between nazimuddin, tamim or junaid (junaid hasn't been given a chance so we can't say he should be there for sure but he should definately get the chance to prove himself). i'm starting to think saleh is a good option for ODIs, he might even be an option for T20 cricket if BD keep going the way they have been.

[BD Tigers]

Tamim has not done anything to get a place in the team. He needs to be dropped as soon possible. He is still selling his 50 against India from WC. What a crap..I wud rather have somebody else.

[DotBall]

How many new players should we try? There is no planning on whom to bring into the national team and whom should to leave in the domestic and A-team to mature. The saga continues.....
Tamim might have truned into a pussy cat from tiger but we can hardly blame alone. Management needs to take half of the responsibility.
Tamim if you are reading this go back to the basic and remember the law of average (if you don't know what it is look up "consistency" in the dictionary). Good luck and show us what you are made of.

[yaseer]

Well...still i back Tamim......Yes, i agree he has lots of areas to improve....i also beleive he will come good sooner or later....though he is recklessly throwing his wickets, i still thing his possitive mind will bring him back.....I dont make him a pussy cat for his performance in T20

[Antora]

tamim is definately not a tiger... he is not a cat...but he is a flea!!:mad::mad:

[Megh]

Tamim??????? (S)he is worthless. tell him to take his talent out from his pocket. real stupid. always tries to come dancing down the wicket and try to make room and he goes out side of leg stump and can not make a good contact with the ball and the ball goes into the air. still no geting it. why he is pleying this shot again and again and again?

[Nawreen93]

TAMIM IS NOT A PUSSY CAT!! knor is he a tiger...he's just a plain old LOSER!

[zainab]

Management should tke a strong look at Tamim. He has talent, but cannot convert it to classy strokes. He needs to learn to bat properly, or else he will be ruined and this will be a shame. He can be a good opener. he is fearless, but if he can just restrain himself from poking his bat at everything, he can improve. He is also very impatient, you can see it from the way he walks around the wicket. I think maybe because he is too young, should be sent back to the U19 team and only play first class and domestic cricket until he can prove he is worthy to included back into the natinal team.
Every player should earn his place in the national team.

[cricket_pagol]

Dude, tamim is still not 20 yet, and you expect him to play like a mature batsmen... give him some time and space. The selectors need to use him wisely... Couple of months ago Tamim was the hero who helped us win the match against india, but now every one hates. Fans are so fickle these days.

[bdchamp20]

What? Are we all talking about the same Tamim Iqbal? I know I'm talking about the Tamim whose half century was crucial in Bangladesh's win over India, the Tamim who scored 45 and then a 54 against India and Sri Lanka, the Tamim who has the highest score in this year's NCL, the Tamim who knocked a 104 against Auckland today¬. Why r u picking on Tamim he is only 18 and still he is much better and consistent than most of Bangladesh's other batsmen.

[bdchamp20]

Instead of asking these stupid questions(is Tamim a pussycat?), i think we need to ask is Tamim's talent being given justice by the selectors and management. His natural game is clearly aggressive so why not experiment him around the line-up. Ever since he started playing he has only opened, be it for the U-19s, for Chittagong Div. or for Bangladesh. Remember Ashraful has batted in every position from 2-7 and now we know his best position is no. 4-5 so why not do that with Tamim he obviously likes to hit so why not try him out at No. 6/7, where he can come in late in the game and hit the ball as he pleases? He wont have any pressure to build partnerships and he'll do what he loves, hit the ball for six! As for openers I think Shahriar Nafees and Junaed Siddique should open or we can try out Mushfiqur at no. 2 coz he is great at building partnerships. We have to experiment different line-ups, strategies and tactics if not in important games we can do it when we are playin teams like Zimbabwe, Kenya or Scotland!

[akabir77]

Instead of asking these stupid questions(is Tamim a pussycat?), i think we need to ask is Tamim's talent being given justice by the selectors and management. His natural game is clearly aggressive so why not experiment him around the line-up. Ever since he started playing he has only opened, be it for the U-19s, for Chittagong Div. or for Bangladesh. Remember Ashraful has batted in every position from 2-7 and now we know his best position is no. 4-5 so why not do that with Tamim he obviously likes to hit so why not try him out at No. 6/7, where he can come in late in the game and hit the ball as he pleases? He wont have any pressure to build partnerships and he'll do what he loves, hit the ball for six! As for openers I think Shahriar Nafees and Junaed Siddique should open or we can try out Mushfiqur at no. 2 coz he is great at building partnerships. We have to experiment different line-ups, strategies and tactics if not in important games we can do it when we are playin teams like Zimbabwe, Kenya or Scotland!

like our BD batsmen i think you have gap in understanding cricket.

[akabir77]

Ummm....no man I dont think so, I understand cricket much more than u do, I play professional cricket and I can guarantee you I'm way better than u. I dont see anything wrong with what I just said, if u hav to criricise my points do it in a constructive way tell me what I have said wrong and dont be sitting in your computer and call someone super-talented like Tamim a pussycat. Just because ur a Cricket Legend in this site doesnt mean ur an expert in cricket.

Where did you see that i am saying i am expert or anything? And maybe you play pro cricket that doesn't mean you know every thing. What made you think i have no back ground in cricket? maybe you found this internet very recently.look at ash he just realized the importance of taking ones and twos.

anyway read your own comment where you want to experiment players from top order and play him one day as an opener and next day as an middle order. May be where you play pro cricket thats normal but that's not the way rest of the world goes. and that's why i said like our NTL batsmen...

Chill out I didn't want to hurt you. Now i can see how it might hurt your ego since you r playing PRO CRICKET. it was meant as a joke.

Anyway you have right to say what you want. so go crazy...

BTW I didn't open this thread so don't blame me for all the dislike you have in the world.:D

[bdchamp20]

Where did you see that i am saying i am expert or anything? And maybe you play pro cricket that doesn't mean you know every thing. What made you think i have no back ground in cricket? maybe you found this internet very recently.look at ash he just realized the importance of taking ones and twos.

anyway read your own comment where you want to experiment players from top order and play him one day as an opener and next day as an middle order. May be where you play pro cricket thats normal but that's not the way rest of the world goes. and that's why i said like our NTL batsmen...

Chill out I didn't want to hurt you. Now i can see how it might hurt your ego since you r playing PRO CRICKET. it was meant as a joke.

Anyway you have right to say what you want. so go crazy...

BTW I didn't open this thread so don't blame me for all the dislike you have in the world.:D
And yeah man...it does hurt coz I get the feeling that u guys think that its all so easy and I guess being a professional cricketer myself makes me appreciate how hard cricket is...I mean when I play a bad innings for my team and my coach criticises me, I feel terrible and I know what it must feel like for Tamim when he plays bad for Bangladesh, he should only get criticised from his coaches not u guys its hard enough as it is.

[akabir77]

You are telling me, that thats not how it works in the world? How many examples do u want? Shahid Afridi started his career as an opener, now a specialist middle order batsman, Sachin and Sourav same: openers but now middle order batsmen. I can keep on going what I am trying to say is that Tamim is still young and as long as he is young we can experiment him if we keep him as an opener till he is in his late 20s he will become fixed to it and we will never know if he couldve played better somewhere else and unless we explore all the possibilities how r we going to know where he plays his best cricket? And still man I dont see u answering me properly in your reply.

I don't know what proper answer you want from me? The 19 year old kid doesn't even have a secure place in BD team yet and you want to shuffle him so that he loses his place and search you will find 100 of x BD players who got washed away just because of this. One example is ASH him self lost his place because of his too much shuffling... A real batsman always wants to play in one position. cause they want to know what their role is in the team and their r other stuff included with a stable position.

And please don't give me tendu, afridi example they proved their worth first. and then they were given some other places when they stopped scoring or some thing else. Tell me how many times Tendu or Afridi shuffled their position in their first 5 years of cricket? go and check. Like i said dig deeper.

[bdchamp20]

I don't know what proper answer you want from me? The 19 year old kid doesn't even have a secure place in BD team yet and you want to shuffle him so that he loses his place and search you will find 100 of x BD players who got washed away just because of this. One example is ASH him self lost his place because of his too much shuffling... A real batsman always wants to play in one position. cause they want to know what their role is in the team and their r other stuff included with a stable position.

And please don't give me tendu, afridi example they proved their worth first. and then they were given some other places when they stopped scoring or some thing else. Tell me how many times Tendu or Afridi shuffled their position in their first 5 years of cricket? go and check. Like i said dig deeper.
Well, thats the thing isnt it? He is young he is only 18 years old, if he does get dropped he has all the time in the world to make a comback. Ppl in this thread r complaining that he needs to be dropped so why not try him in other positions before we drop him? The more we delay the shuffling the harder it gets for Tamim to shift.

[akabir77]

Well, thats the thing isnt it? He is young he is only 18 years old, if he does get dropped he has all the time in the world to make a comback. Ppl in this thread r complaining that he needs to be dropped so why not try him in other positions before we drop him? The more we delay the shuffling the harder it gets for Tamim to shift.


and hence there is no logic behind your comment as you want to play with some ones career. and that's why i wanted to avoid the whole conversation as a whole. I knew i wouldn't be able to make you think as you have already determined your logic as supreme.

Thank god the selectors (at least the current ones) doesn't think your way (or any one who's opinion matters in cricketing world).

You are right i have no case here. Thank you for sharing your brilliant idea with us.:notworthy:

[bdchamp20]

and hence there is no logic behind your comment as you want to play with some ones career. and that's why i wanted to avoid the whole conversation as a whole. I knew i wouldn't be able to make you think as you have already determined your logic as supreme.

Thank god the selectors (at least the current ones) doesn't think your way (or any one who's opinion matters in cricketing world).

You are right i have no case here. Thank you for sharing your brilliant idea with us.:notworthy:
His career is not more important than Bangladesh team's performance if there is the possibility that Bangladesh might score more runs if Tamim comes in to bat in the middle order than we should give it a chance..and im saying that he comes in to bat at middle order only a couple of times..sheesh thats not going to destroy his whole career! And as you dont live in BD u dont know how popular Tamim is here..for the first time ever I saw a cricketers poster in a rickshaw and guess who's it was...Tamim's and even if he is dropped BCB will be under pressure and Tamim's performance in the domestic cricket would be closely examined and if he only gets a couple of good performances he can come back to the team..it will be very easy for him. And u claim that 100 ex players lost their places because of shuffling.. its not cause of shuffling...shuffling happens only when someone cant score runs in their current position..they were dropped because they couldnt score runs in their normal positions and so they were shuffled to other positions ad since they couldnt score runs there as well they were dropped! And we havent had many players with Tamims talent play for our team before so I really dont think Tamim's position is in threat here.

[Parisa]

tamim's good but need more training to be like mashrafe or ashraful

[nobody]

Tamim is neither a pussy cat nor a tiger. He is a bully againest weak bowling or a freak

[betaar]

Ok, I opened this thread almost 2 years ago after some significant but infrequent performances from Tamim. After 2 years that young kid that made his appearence known by hitting the indian bowlers all over the park with teenage arrogance now at 20 is playing like a matured man at his mid 30's. Still early days but I think he's proving to be a lot more consistent with his approach. Whether he gets out done by the better bowlers from the stornger team is another thing but as long as his approach is right, I'm sure he'll come out good. Good luck to our almost grownup tiger.

[bangla-red]

I'll kill you if he gets out now.

[betaar]

Funny you should say that. I felt like killing my self after the manner in which he got out. Though he got us really close, but I thought he was matured enough to finish it off.....but I guess the exictement of winning the series was getting the better of him. But none the less it was one of the most composed and well paced innings I've seen any BD players play.

[bujhee kom]

I genuinely think Tamim is a real man! More man than I ever will be!
I also think TIK is a real Bapher Beta!

[AsifTheManRahman]

Funny you should say that. I felt like killing my self after the manner in which he got out. Though he got us really close, but I thought he was matured enough to finish it off.....
Bhai, polata 150 korlo, aar koto chaan? :)

Ideally he would have finished it off, but unfortunately, we don't live in an ideal world, but rather one infected by such outrageous concepts as democracy and freedom of speech.

[chol_bd123]

Tamim is a real tiger indeed

[betaar]

Bhai, polata 150 korlo, aar koto chaan? :)

Ideally he would have finished it off, but unfortunately, we don't live in an ideal world, but rather one infected by such outrageous concepts as democracy and freedom of speech.

can you move this to the Bangladesh cricket forum in stead of keeping it in 2007 WC section. Thanks.