Who should be the next BD captain? [Archive]

WarWolf

April 2, 2007, 12:38 PM

I strongly believe we should start looking for a new captain. Bashar is not impressive at all for last couple of years except his words and age. We have a fine talented young team. This team should be handled with a good brain. Otherwise i am afraid these talents will be definitely wasted and we will be lost forever.

Here i am trying to add all possible names includes ones who are not in the team at present.

Some people already questioned that while we don't have some experienced one to be named as captain why should we go for that? The answer is I would rather be happy to give 4 years time to a young captain. In this time he will make mistakes at first. But with time he will learn and will take us to a new height. No point in wasting time with present captain any more. If I am too harsh at Bashar then I am sorry cause as a man i like him very much. But some times we have to be hard to achieve something good.

April 2, 2007, 01:32 PM

Why the name Alok Kapali is there ? are you out of your mind or from Sylhet ? Ashraful or Shahriar have at least scored some hundreds. Kapali can not be even considered for the A team let alone becoming the captain.

April 2, 2007, 01:42 PM

Let us make Mashrafee the next captain and he deserve this more than anyone. He is in form , well disciplined and experienced as well. His age will allow him to build up the team for longer term that he can work things out.

TheWatcher

April 2, 2007, 01:46 PM

Umar

April 2, 2007, 02:13 PM

Where is MUSHFIQUR RAHIM's name?? He can be a better captain then Tushar Imran. He has more experience in captancy then Tushar has.

it should be MUSHFUR RAHIM or SHAHREER NAFEES.

irteja

April 2, 2007, 07:57 PM

only Mashrafi can be next captain...thats is ..he got killer instinct..he is always attacking...give 100% in the feild...
and he speak better english then most of them...
those who can think Alok as a captain can think Hannan shah or Nafeez Iqbal as captain as well

Haradhon

April 2, 2007, 09:36 PM

Folks, I still want to find out what is wrong with Nafees

bangalee

April 2, 2007, 10:43 PM

a captain should be some one who is a world class player with good cricket brain...My vote goes to Ashraful.

This young lad performs when he is given responsibility ;)

Yasin

April 3, 2007, 03:22 AM

Just because Mashrafi is a good bowler and definitely on his way to be a great bowler doesnt means he should be the captain. Ian Botham was a great all rounder but not a great captain. People will point to Imran Khan and Kapil Dev, but both of these teams had match winners who were ready to take RESPONSIBLITY.

When Wasim and Waqar were in their prime they used to say to the batsmen give us 180 runs on the boad we will do the rest. (Read in a magazine...sorry dont exactly know the source.)

Mash was very frustated when Munaf edged his ball for 4 and Habibul didnt place a slip. He is a bowler with a big heart. He has forgiven Habibul, but will he be able to forgive himself when he makes mistakes like that. I would like Shariar Nafees or Ashraful. Voted for Shariar because though Ashraful is in the team now, he doent know hie role. Not his fault completely. He is been yo-yoing in different positions with relative success and failures. Would like Ashraful as a No : 3 and Aftab at No 6/7.

Let Shahriar be the captain. I have a gut feeling he will step up and take responsiblity. Graeme Smith was made captain out of the blue when Shaun Pollock flopped in WC 2003. Might not be a bad idea at all for us.

baisab

April 3, 2007, 04:51 AM

There is only 2 options, Mashrafe and Shahriar. I personally think Mash should be the next captain simply because he is inspirational and he leads by example, he gives 100% all the time even when everyone around him gives up.

baisab

April 3, 2007, 04:53 AM

On a second note i havent seen much of Tushar Imran, but from what ive read about him he is supposed to be good leader, so he is also one to look out for.

Miraz

April 3, 2007, 05:03 AM

I don't see anyone except Shahriar Nafees is becoming Captain of Bangladesh. He has lost his form, but he will be certainly back with a bang.

This boy has talent and courage.

WarWolf

April 3, 2007, 05:43 AM

Hope our players will point out the mistakes and gonna put up a nice show in the upcoming matches.

Dhakablues

April 3, 2007, 08:06 AM

stuge

April 3, 2007, 10:31 AM

IMO Shahriar Nafees shd be the next BD captain .

mhj007

April 3, 2007, 10:34 AM

i will vote for shahriar nafees.at least for now and see how he does.beacause:
1.he is quite a good batsman.he is out of form now,but he will definitely come good inshAllah in the future.if he doesn;t do good as an opener,we should try him as no.4,as he is a good player of spin.
2.his attitude is very good.the way he walks or behaves,it seems that he has the authority over the team what a captain needs.
3.he was captain of many age-level team during his time.
4.he is our vice-captain for now.
5.he can be a long term solution as he is only 21.
6.we don't have better option for now.(as habib sucks)
Junior

ASA

April 3, 2007, 11:09 AM

only JO has the required experience to be a captain in the present team ... !!!

ok - i'm underground now. take as many potshots as you want ... :P

kalpurush

April 3, 2007, 11:10 AM

Unfortunately, all the players in the current national team either lack in mental maturity or in experience to be considered for captaincy. So, my vote goes to Tushar Imran, current Bangladesh A-team captain. I also agree with WarWolf that Alok Kapali has a shot at captaincy.

Alok has no place in the National Team and so do Tushar! Though, I think Tushar as a captain of NT might be very fruitfull.:-D

kalpurush

April 3, 2007, 11:16 AM

I don't see anyone except Shahriar Nafees is becoming Captain of Bangladesh. He has lost his form, but he will be certainly back with a bang.

This boy has talent and courage.

Miraz bhai: You didn't vote yet for him though!...:waiting: :-D

TheWatcher

April 3, 2007, 12:25 PM

First,, can some of you define what you are seeking in a captain? Your personal favorite player or a player who has the ability to lead a cricket team on/off the field? Can you give some explicit examples of your candidate's trait that makes him the right choice? Once you answer that honestly,you will get your answer...
My choice of Tushar is mainly because he has a reputation of having a good tactical understanding of the game.

For example, Enamul Jr has more success playing under Tushar for A-team than he has under Rajin playing in NCL. Here I am not talking about A-team matches against ZImbabwe who are inherently weak against SLAs, I am talking about A-team matches against Eng-A or SL-A. Now, how are Enamul's performances related to Tushar's leadership ? Well, for an attacking spinner like Enamul it matters a lot how his captain setup the field. I admit there can be many other reasons why Enamul's performances vary under Rajin and Tushar, but I think above explaination is the most likely cause.

I know Tushar always struggles to keep his place in the national team whenever he is given a chance, but he is one of the very few Bangladeshi batsmen I have seen who can play pace and spin equally well (Ashraful is the only one currently in the national team with such quality), I think it is just a matter of time a batsman of his class cement his place in the national team (mind you he is only 23 years old now).

real123

April 3, 2007, 12:30 PM

We should not make SN a captain. He will become another Bashar. SN is very lazy in the field and a bad ..bad fielder.

Mahmood

April 3, 2007, 12:44 PM

Definitly Masri.

We can consider Nafees when he is back in form. We had Hannan, we had Rajin, both started so bright, but never came back to form.

Jughead

April 3, 2007, 01:43 PM

Mashrafe should be the next captain and NOT Shahriar Nafees -
Reasons?
1. Apparently Nafees is tagged to be the next big thing for Bangladesh, and throwing the captaincy job at him as well may be asking too much of him. Burdens of expectation has already dried up the runs. Whats gonna happen if u add another one??

2. Mashrafe has the enthusiasm, killer instinct in him. This will serve him well in charging up other members. (Which he already does I blv)

3. (I am not sure about this one) I have heard and read that Aftab and Ashraful were caught saying that Nafees has scored bulk of his runs against lesser opponents. (I know this is a lame excuse). What this suggests is there is already a gap between these fellows. And all three of them are expected to serve BD for a long long time. So better Mashrafe than SN.

The only thing I am not sure about is that Mashrafe may try to lead by example ( much like Flintoff) and then may be sidelined becoz of injury. Thats the only thing that worries me.

TheWatcher

April 3, 2007, 01:48 PM

Mash, I think, is already over burdened being the main strike bowler and a late order batsman. Also, you can't expect someone so injury prone to be with the team all the time. We actually need someone to hold him back from time to time so he does not end up with another serious injury.

Among the current national team players, I think Abdur Razzak is a better choice. He is older, more mature, and very much liked by his team mates. He is an excellent fielder too, unlike SN or Bashar, I have not yet seen him letting his team mates down in this area.

Jughead

April 3, 2007, 02:01 PM

He has the all the qualities u mentioned, and I also support the 'injury prone' - ness of Mashrafe. But does Razzaq have the quality of captaining? (atleast to me, he doesnt)
and he is not an automatic choice for tests as well. ( as long as Rafique is there)

Mash, I think, is already over burdened being the main strike bowler and a late order batsman. Also, you can't expect someone so injury prone to be with the team all the time. We actually need someone to hold him back from time to time so he does not end up with another serious injury.

Among the current national team players, I think Abdur Razzak is a better choice. He is older, more mature, and very much liked by his team mates. He is an excellent fielder too, unlike SN or Bashar, I have not yet seen him letting his team mates down in this area.

TheWatcher

April 3, 2007, 02:07 PM

Another thing about Mash is that I am not sure how is his relation with Shahadat. During the Zimbabwe tour in August, I had seen a comment or two from Shahadat that might give the impression that he was, at that point, considering himself as the best pacer in the team (actually most of us did too). Again, during the February tour, I had seen comments from Mash saying how silly Shahadat was to bowl in short lengths. Those comments really don't give us a clear idea about the relation between those two, but fast bowlers are always expected to have competitions going in between them. In general, it is never a good idea to give a fast bowler authority over another. For example- Wasim and Waqar used to be good friends until one of them became the captain. Recently, I have seen comments from Sajid Mahmood how unsatisfied he was when Flintoff did not give him enough overs to bowl.

WarWolf

April 3, 2007, 02:14 PM

So far what we see is Sahriar Nafees is clearly ahead. He got 38.10% of the 42 votes that are casted so far. While Mash is holding the 2nd place with 26.19% of votes. The rest others are clearly far behind.

Aftab failed to get any vote while Alok Kapali and Razzaq got 1 votes each.

TheWatcher

April 3, 2007, 02:24 PM

But does Razzaq have the quality of captaining? (atleast to me, he doesnt)
and he is not an automatic choice for tests as well. ( as long as Rafique is there)
How bad Razzak can be if you compare him to Bashar ? He is a fighter who can, atleast, lead the team in the field by example. About his tactical understanding, he sets up his own field alright, so we can expect him to do the same thing for other bowlers too (For Mash & Rafique, he can just let them set up their own fields). Batting order and other stuff is taken care by the coach anyway.

About the Test team, Bashar is expected to be there for another year or so. By then Rafique should retire and Razzak will be definately an auto choice there also (although I like to see Tushar Imran taking up captaincy of both teams by then).

Niceman70

April 3, 2007, 05:51 PM

hahahaha...

only JO has the required experience to be a captain in the present team ... !!!

ok - i'm underground now. take as many potshots as you want ... :P

topgun

April 3, 2007, 06:07 PM

there's another possibility-let's postpone such discussions until after the world cup ends.

this team under bashar, with whatmore, with our current crop of players, took us to a new height in reaching the super 8's, making our arrogant neighbours eat humble pie, and eventually leading to a test and one day series with them (although maybe not exactly to our liking as it's in bD, not india, afaik)

for this wc, stay tuned and let's hope our boys can pull off at least 2 wins in the super 8's.

pellu

April 3, 2007, 07:36 PM

We should ask two questions in this poll:
1. who should be next captain
2. who definitely should not be the next captain

If the second question were asked, I would have voted against Shahriar Nafees. I am afraid that he might turn into a Chacha (in the team because he is the captain, not because of his skills). I would love to be proven wrong but he seems to be a minnow basher and homeground tiger. All his success has been in Bangladesh and against minnows. I think he has been made vice captain prematurely. We should have waited 2-3 years to let him demonstrate his skills before deciding. Now given his limited track record, we are totally unsure if he is any good against top teams.

I am voting for Mashrafee because he is only one player who will always be in the team no matter what.

Duck

April 3, 2007, 08:48 PM

scoilaheez

April 3, 2007, 09:19 PM

We could even try a rotating captaincy, it has worked in other sports. There is no standout candidate. Rahim, Saqibul and Nafees may get dropped over the next few years. Mortaza has enough to do already, no need to burden him.

Nafees in due course i think should be captain.

PoorFan

April 3, 2007, 09:30 PM

Time for Hablu to give up captaincy to Nafees, and he should be playing test only.

WarWolf

April 4, 2007, 02:41 AM

Now a lot of us want to change the captain including myself. But we should ask a question to ourselves. "Are we ready to give the new captain enough time? Or will we be gonna do the same again?" We have wasted a lot of young players like Alok Kapali, Nafees Iqbal, Hannan Sarkar, Meherab Hossain, Shariar Hossain by giving early chance and not standing beside them when they failed.

It is natural that any young player would not be consistent enough at the first and tend to fail. They need time to get matured and used to with the international level. This is also true for captaincy. But it would get worse if we don't back him for quiet a long time. So think about that at first.

reyme

April 4, 2007, 04:24 PM

I nominate the following as the captain for the team (from the sideline):

RAB

Reason: Players cant handle additional pressure or reponsibility, so let other take care of the burden. So players can concentrate on what they are supposed to do. If not, following is the course of action by the new captain:

misfield: thappor
missed hard catch: chimti
missed sitter catch: kan mola
mudi (zero) ran -e out: kil
baje shot e out: ghushi
reapeat bhul: gola dhakka

inspyr9

April 4, 2007, 06:50 PM

its either tushar imran or ashraful

inspyr9

April 4, 2007, 06:57 PM

I know this is totally off the topic but we r probably losing whatmore to India

6alltheway

April 5, 2007, 07:55 AM

S. Nafees

MZaman

April 5, 2007, 11:53 AM

I have voted for Saqibul: Mr. Dependable, Mr. Sensible, Mr. Reliable, Mr. Cool.
Hope with time he grooms up sharp and grow tenecious!

Next choice is Mushfiqur Rahman: but standing behind the wicket and captaincy cant go a long way! But there is no option for him.

All the other choices seems lame to me.

I think you meant Mushfiqur Rahim?! Everyone is forgetting that he was the most successful captain for Bangladesh at any level. But then again our last under 19 team was probably the best one we ever had. My point being, a captain should be unreplaceable. Bashar may be a good captain, but he is hording a place for a good batsman and that is the problem. Besides it is not that simple to replace a wicket keeper, so Mushfiq’s place is pretty solid.:)

mrkabir80

April 5, 2007, 12:09 PM

Guys i have read all of your comments.I really enjoyed all of your comments about captaincy.

Look this is the analysis :no doubt for captaincy about s nafees but his batting form is not good at all.

second masrafe mortaza will be good choice ,good performer,attacking and speak good english which represent the country,as we know s nafees also good on that perspective

as we can basahar will be out from the team tusar imran will be in the team,u guys can see his performing in the current series with Sirilanka A team.most of the time he come to the national team but cant play even one game.he deserve that position now.

bottom line s nafes or mortaza.

I strongly believe we should start looking for a new captain. Bashar is not impressive at all for last couple of years except his words and age. We have a fine talented young team. This team should be handled with a good brain. Otherwise i am afraid these talents will be definitely wasted and we will be lost forever.

Here i am trying to add all possible names includes ones who are not in the team at present.

Some people already questioned that while we don't have some experienced one to be named as captain why should we go for that? The answer is I would rather be happy to give 4 years time to a young captain. In this time he will make mistakes at first. But with time he will learn and will take us to a new height. No point in wasting time with present captain any more. If I am too harsh at Bashar then I am sorry cause as a man i like him very much. But some times we have to be hard to achieve something good.

Mr-khan

April 5, 2007, 12:20 PM

My 1st choise was Shahriar Nafees but at the moment i prefer Mashrafee.
Why?
1.Best performer
2.He is parmanent in our national team and will never loose his place in the team in next 5 years because we dont have any replacement.
3.Experienced enough
Why not Shahrirar Nafees at the moment?
1.He has not proven himself against any quality team
But if shahriar Nafees keep performing against big opponent, he should get the captaincy.But we need to change our captain after the world cup.Keep Bashar as our test captain but we dont need him in Odi.

Imteaz

April 7, 2007, 03:55 AM

Presently It Seems to be Shahriar Nafees but Some Other Person Might Have Quality.

One World

April 7, 2007, 12:32 PM

Hoping a quick raise in the third bar after this superb innings against the current best ranked team.

Sovik

April 7, 2007, 12:36 PM

ashraful, not beacuse of this innings. he is lively in the field and will be able to motivate others

battye

April 8, 2007, 07:26 AM

Mridul

April 8, 2007, 08:10 AM

There's no real standout to be next captain. I think Habibul Bashar should retain the role for another 2 years, I'm sure his form will pick up.

I think in 2 years time it will be obvious who should get the job. If Nafees starts performing against teams other than Zimbabwe and the associates, then he will probably get it. Otherwise it could potentially be anyone...

ditto

If Bashar really has to go now by this year, I would make Mashrafe the captain. Shahriar Nafees has to really perform against big boys and that needs to be done consistently.

akabir77

April 8, 2007, 09:57 AM

people people people
did u watch the game yesterday?
Didn't you see who was the captain in the field? we already have the next captain in the field.
ITS MUSHFIQ.
The way he was setting the field teling the fielders to field and he was the captain in U-19 team. so i guess he is in due process

Mon

April 8, 2007, 05:28 PM

The list is very limited. Most of these players are not matured enough to become captain. I know the Basher had said in an interview that he would prefer Mashrafee to be the captain. I dont' think I would want to see a bowler to be the captain of the team as it's very rare. If I had to choose from this list i would pick Javed or or Kapali both of them are matured players and have more experience than most of the people on the list. Why the thread starter didn't put Khaled Mashud's name in there. There shouldn't be any doubt about his abilities.

shujan

April 8, 2007, 07:11 PM

I want Alok as captain.

Ishtylish cricketer

April 8, 2007, 11:40 PM

I think Bash will stay captain for at least 2-3 years more and he will try to groom SN who is currently the vice captain and is in mind the front runner to be Bash's successor. He's a good player I don't understand why people knock him so much. I mean yes, he failed a few times against top teams but so have most of the other Bangaldeshi batters... why make a scape goat out of him just because he scored centuries against a weak Zimbawae team? Takes talent to get a century against any team. He's definitely got that. He's young and plays with a cool head looks as though he could be consistent for many years to come so his promotion as a skipper would not surprise me.