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Miraz
April 29, 2007, 05:42 AM
Australia won world cup cricket 1987 as underdog. Since then only Pakistan (an unconvincing win) and Sri Lanka (1996) have managed to win world cup and the rest is simply Australia.

In fact since 1996, no team is even posing any threat to the mighty Aussies. The fate of the tournament is getting decided from the first round and we all are waiting to see who is gonna meet Australia in final. That's it, winner will be Australia.

Cricket is losing it's unpredictable nature when one of the competing team is Australia, it's getting boring, annoying and a very one-sided affair.

Next world cup is in 2011. A good number of Australian super heroes will not be there to repeat the successes of last three world cup.

McGrath, Gilly, Ponting, Hussey, Hogg, Symonds will not be there. I know they have replacements ready, still enough is enough.

The rest of the teams must take the advantage of the absence of these players.

Australia, you are the finest team of the world cricket, you have proved that over and again.

We are fully convinced, we don't need any more proof, Now please for the sake of cricket, GO AWAY!!

BanCricFan
April 29, 2007, 08:10 AM
Don't worry Bangladesh will send them home anyway come next CWC!

Hope in twelve years time you dont have to write a post about BD team in the same manner.:lol:

BANTigress
April 29, 2007, 08:15 AM
McGrath, Gilly, Ponting, Hussey, Hogg, Symonds will not be there. I know they have replacements ready, still enough is enough.


datz a gud news!! without dem aussies will become slightly weak i thnk..bt still dey preparin more McGraths, Gillys, Pontings etc:(

Don't worry Bangladesh will send them home anyway come next CWC!

Hope in twelve years time you dont have to write a post about BD team in the same manner.:lol:

hope so...:)

Kabir
April 29, 2007, 09:28 AM
Miraz bhai: Kinda disagree with what you said. They're not showing that they're better, but they are proving that they're better. And they're proving on those occassions when everyone remain hopeful that they would lose, such as yesterday's final (where many of us wanted SL to win, who was actually putting a big fight). There's nothing wrong with it. It would however be kinda loserish if we say that "plesae for the sake of cricket stop performing", coz we should rather say "for the sake of cricket, other teams should start performing".

Miraz
April 29, 2007, 09:35 AM
Miraz bhai: Kinda disagree with what you said. They're not showing that they're better, but they are proving that they're better.
:-/, have I said anything different? Why you disagree?

Australia, you are the finest team of the world cricket, you have proved that over and again.


It would however be kinda loserish if we say that "plesae for the sake of cricket stop performing", coz we should rather say "for the sake of cricket, other teams should start performing".You missed the whole context of the post. I'm not saying them to stop performing. It's not the performance, it's lack of human touch.

Australians are so professional and perfect, it's really boring to watch their domination. It's like "Auto Pilot" said by Ponting himself.

I think you completely misunderstood what I meant by "for the sake of cricket". :)

Mahmood
April 29, 2007, 10:34 AM
Before the world cup started, Australia did not seem to have that good of a chance. Most good bowlers absent, except McGrath. Bad performence before WC as Australia lost 2 series. Majortiy of the people actually thought Australia will not win it.

It is their full credit that they have bounced back and played so well. Last world cup, we all knew Australia will win, and they did, it was lame. This one, it was great, I am simply impressed.

BD-Shardul
April 29, 2007, 11:25 AM
It is not only the cricket spectators who are bored to see the Aussie dominance, even Australian players themselves are also bored. If you observe carefully, then I am sure you would find that this time, even after winning the World Cup, OZ players have failed to celebrate the way they did in 2003. What is their fault? If winning world cup becomes a typical phenomena in your life, then you can't celebrate everytime with a-life-time zest.

We have been waiting for many other teams to come up and snatch the trophy from the OZs. But they have failed. Now, I don't want to look far. Tigers! Plz do something to stop the Aussies. I know that I am asking too much from you, but you have to believe that nothing is impossible. If the Ozs can win the WC three times in a row, then you can win atleast once. Meanawhile, you have once proved that if you roar, then the mighty Aussies also find themselves in hapless situation. So, get ready for '11 show.

GO Tigers

BD Tigers
April 29, 2007, 11:48 AM
in 1999 it was Paki, in 2003 it was India, in 2007 it was Sri Lanka - find any similiarities? Insha Allah it will be BD who will play in 2011 Final but this time they will beat Australia and become the first team to beat them in WC after Pakistan in 1999 :)

The law of average work always and Australia bound to come down to earth sometime soon in near future.

Hatebreed
April 29, 2007, 11:56 AM
The problem is, we don't know if the replacements for these players won't become just as good. May be not so soon, but good enough to beat the other major teams who are also going lose a lot of key players. Fortunately, we have the most to gain because our young players should be matured by next WC and we will have the home conditions to our advantage.

ialbd
April 29, 2007, 12:06 PM
haha.... thread title dekhe bujhlam Miraz bhai gotokal onek dukkho paise...

shaad
April 29, 2007, 12:15 PM
I'm not saying them to stop performing. It's not the performance, it's lack of human touch.
Australians are so professional and perfect, it's really boring to watch their domination. It's like "Auto Pilot" said by Ponting himself.

Miraz, I disagree. I think it is both entertaining and enlightening to see a team function as a well-oiled machine, day in and day out, and not just depend on one or two superstars to save the day, and then only if they are in form. I believe the Australian style of cricket is what we should try to emulate -- fitness, tight fielding, aggressive but intelligent batting and running (note that I said intelligent; I'm not talking about being just aggressive a la Tamim), and attacking bowling (we are well on the way to this, but we need our fielders to complement the bowling consistently, not just on the day we're playing India).

While it is enjoyable to see a sublime innings from an excellent batsman, that only wins you one or two matches; it doesn't make you one of the dominant teams.

Miraz
April 29, 2007, 12:22 PM
Miraz, I disagree. I think it is both entertaining and enlightening to see a team function as a well-oiled machine, day in and day out, and not just depend on one or two superstars to save the day, and then only if they are in form. I believe the Australian style of cricket is what we should try to emulate -- fitness, tight fielding, aggressive but intelligent batting and running (note that I said intelligent; I'm not talking about being just aggressive a la Tamim), and attacking bowling (we are well on the way to this, but we need our fielders to complement the bowling consistently, not just on the day we're playing India).

While it is enjoyable to see a sublime innings from an excellent batsman, that only wins you one or two matches; it doesn't make you one of the dominant teams.

shaad, everyone has got different perspective.

Never liked the "well oiled machine style" team performance from Australia and that's the whole point in my post. I want more human touch where mistakes should be obvious along with great cricket.

Hopefully, "Robot World Cup Cricket" in near future will be more "entertaining and enlightening". :)

Zunaid
April 29, 2007, 12:38 PM
I too have to disagree with Miraz here. Like Shaad, I find it entertaining and enlightning to watch a flawless performance -all executed with clinical precision. There is nothing robotic about such performances - there is sublime artistry to the way they dominate when they do. That is why I go to watch professional sports. That is why I pay to watch professional sports.

Kabir
April 29, 2007, 12:39 PM
That is why I go to watch professional sports. That is why I pay to watch professional sports.

Boss, I'll be glad if you pay for me too...coz I completely agree with you :big_hug:

Hatebreed
April 29, 2007, 12:51 PM
Boss, I'll be glad if you pay for me too...coz I completely agree with you :big_hug:

Hahaha cheeky one aren't you.

Miraz
April 29, 2007, 01:10 PM
I too have to disagree with Miraz here. Like Shaad, I find it entertaining and enlightning to watch a flawless performance -all executed with clinical precision. There is nothing robotic about such performances - there is sublime artistry to the way they dominate when they do. That is why I go to watch professional sports. That is why I pay to watch professional sports.

Fair call.
That's the ideal situation where professional sportsman will excel to their best to entertain us. This is happening in NBA, Spanish La League or English Premier league. I agree. Now, it's getting entertaining as most of the teams are acheving that level and are able to challenge the others or force others to do mistakes.

Now, what's happening in Cricket is completely different. Australia has made a daylight difference with others and they are winning without any sort of stretching or competition. I am not willing to pay to watch this.

I am rather more willing to pay to watch matches like England vs West Indies (of this WC) or Sri Lanka vs South Africa where teams make mistakes, play some great cricket and at the end entertain us. :)

shaad
April 29, 2007, 01:19 PM
shaad, everyone has got different perspective.
Never liked the "well oiled machine style" team performance from Australia and that's the whole point in my post. I want more human touch where mistakes should be obvious along with great cricket.
Miraz, I was rooting for the Lankans too. :)

Hopefully, "Robot World Cup Cricket" in near future will be more "entertaining and enlightening". :)

Well, I don't know about "Robot World Cup Cricket" but Battlebots and Robot Wars (essentially robot gladiatorial combat) were both quite entertaining.

BangladeshFan
April 29, 2007, 01:30 PM
I guess, I ll still pay to watch Gilchrist play like that.Its almost like saying, lower your standard, otherwise I wont play....... kind of what we used to say as kids. Australians are not there by their birthly rights, they acheived it through hard work and determination. teams can match them if they can, otherwise nothing to do.

Some time ago, gavaskar came into debate saying australians setting a bad example by their bad mouthing in the game. The thing is, if u win, u have some bragging rights. The match is won by the contest of bat and ball, it is not won by mouth. gilchrist will still score a 150 off 100 balls even if he doesnt say a word. So even though some may claim aussies are bullying their way in, actually bullying is the after effect of their winning, not the other way round. i guess i am drifting off topic............

OZGOD
April 29, 2007, 04:46 PM
LOL I know Miraz meant that as a bit of a joke, but I think that it's the responsibility of everyone else to get better. We're doing world cricket a service by forcing teams to really find ways to improve. :p

AsifTheManRahman
April 29, 2007, 04:56 PM
I too have to disagree with Miraz here. Like Shaad, I find it entertaining and enlightning to watch a flawless performance -all executed with clinical precision. There is nothing robotic about such performances - there is sublime artistry to the way they dominate when they do. That is why I go to watch professional sports. That is why I pay to watch professional sports.

ditto.

and if you want australia out, get on top of their game and bring them down to submission. as fair as that.

Rumz_01
April 29, 2007, 05:27 PM
...
2011, Bengal Tigerz Got the World Cup Under Locks!
Cumon Tigerz...I will be there supporting u all the way! All the coutries have a chance, its all bout making sumat of it!
SO CUMON TIGERZZZ!!!!

jabbar
April 29, 2007, 06:32 PM
McGrath, Gilly, Ponting, Hussey, Hogg, Symonds will not be there. I know they have replacements ready, still enough is enough.


I beg to differ. Hussey, Symonds and Ponting will probably play one more WC. Hayden will also probably not play. So, Australia needs to find replacements for McGrath, Hayden, Gilchrist. These players are all unique and "irreplacable" in many ways - particularly McGrath who I think is the real match winner for the aussies. Having seen some of the young stock in the domestic comp, I'm afraid the future looks grim...... for the rest of the world :) There are some fine bowlers coming through. Mitchell Johnson and Hilfenhaus are two pacers who are very promising. Although the batting stocks don't appear as bright, Australia still has a glut of world-class batsman. With Brett Lee to come back into the team, and Shaun Tait slowly maturing, the side will become very balanced and settled when the old-timers leave.

jabbar
April 29, 2007, 06:35 PM
ditto.

and if you want australia out, get on top of their game and bring them down to submission. as fair as that.

It's more entertaining when two teams are both playing "clinical and flawless" cricket. I certainly don't enjoy matches like Australia vs. Ireland.

Alien
April 29, 2007, 07:52 PM
:-/, have I said anything different? Why you disagree?




You missed the whole context of the post. I'm not saying them to stop performing. It's not the performance, it's lack of human touch.

Australians are so professional and perfect, it's really boring to watch their domination. It's like "Auto Pilot" said by Ponting himself.

I think you completely misunderstood what I meant by "for the sake of cricket". :)


I'll say this, its not that Australia's cricket has hit sky high, but it's because world cricket has kinda slumped. India is no longer as powerful and has the same momentum it did during 90s, Pakistan is goner has it's own share of dramas, SL is probably in it's finest form after a slump in in recent years, Bangladesh has definitely gone up but no way near to challenge Australia's position. Zimbabwe has gone down thanks to Mugabe, SA aren't the same as they were with Jonty and Cronje era, although England has serious problems and drop in performance. Same case with Windies.

Conclusion? Given everyone one has some sort of problem, hardly anyone can stand up and challenge Australia on the face. But since it's my second favourite team, I got no regrets either :) Although I would have preferred SL to win yesterday.

Alien
April 29, 2007, 07:56 PM
I too have to disagree with Miraz here. Like Shaad, I find it entertaining and enlightning to watch a flawless performance -all executed with clinical precision. There is nothing robotic about such performances - there is sublime artistry to the way they dominate when they do. That is why I go to watch professional sports. That is why I pay to watch professional sports.

That's why I dont pay to watch professional sports so I can witness those clinical precisions with better camera angles.

It's more entertaining when two teams are both playing "clinical and flawless" cricket. I certainly don't enjoy matches like Australia vs. Ireland.

True, Its more of a contest of who can break the stumps, Lee or Tait.

One World
April 30, 2007, 01:04 AM
West Indies will be emerging soon with raw talent and not professionalism, with their flambuoyance and enigma. Srilanka has better players than their current team in the pipeline. Compared to Australia these two teams would be much stronger in near future. Cricket is more art than science. And despite mathematics and physics, a cover drive is always picture perfect when its played with raw Talent.

Ganguly da
April 30, 2007, 01:33 AM
Aussies will find it hard to replace McG, Gilly, however they have lot of new talents, like mitchell johnson, Stuart Clark, Michael Clarke will be there, hopefully hussey will be there....

For test matches, Damien Martyn, Shane Warne, Justin Langer and now McG has retired, replaced by S. Macgill, who's a very good bowler, but they would be much weaker in Test arena as compared to Odis

OZs are successfull coz they don't believe in Star system like US (subcontinent teams). We always tend to make one player the favorite star, while they play as a team, they balance it out, and they drop players like Hayden, who comes back and become the highest scorer in WC.

Rabz
April 30, 2007, 07:41 AM
Go away??
haha Miraz Bhai.....funny one indeed...
or a sad one??

Dont ask Australia to go away...
Ask everyone else to go far far away...learn cricket, practise it and then play against Australia.

The way things are going, i reckon from now on, all the teams should play among themselves and the winner of that bunch will play Australia for the championship.

Even clinical would be an understatement the way Aussies have played in this world cup.

Simply from Eclise 581c.

Kabir
April 30, 2007, 08:46 AM
or a sad one??

Actually, this is how I visualized Miraz bhai after seeing this thread:

http://www.geocities.com/richbrown100/Sad_Baby.jpg

OZGOD
April 30, 2007, 01:58 PM
Actually, this is how I visualized Miraz bhai after seeing this thread:

http://www.geocities.com/richbrown100/Sad_Baby.jpg

:floor:

Hatebreed
April 30, 2007, 02:10 PM
Miraz bhai = http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6961/crayih8.gif


Hahaha :p

OZGOD
April 30, 2007, 03:12 PM
I have another one:

http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/noncgi/graemlins/ma.gif

(Just kidding Miraz, you know I love ya mate! :p )

Protic
April 30, 2007, 03:18 PM
I was kinda Sure..that Aussies were not gonna win this time around.. but they surprised me..bounced back so good..and won it.
Welldone! :] and Hey all other 9 teams should be blame..why cant they pull out performances like Australia? They are no super men.. We should not blame Australia.
By the way.. Symonds retiring before WC '11 ? Eh?

akabir77
April 30, 2007, 04:19 PM
Asian team's r looking for graveyards to make their next stadium for 2011...

We will have Spin pitches, hot weather and bollywood dance for symond and co. in 2011...

Kabir
April 30, 2007, 04:22 PM
Is Symond the next captain for Australia? When's Ponting retiring, and who's replacing him?

AsifTheManRahman
April 30, 2007, 04:38 PM
i think clarke will.

cricketboy
April 30, 2007, 08:23 PM
Asian team's r looking for graveyards to make their next stadium for 2011...

We will have Spin pitches, hot weather and bollywood dance for symond and co. in 2011...

Shilpa Shetty is must as spectator in 2011 CWC Australian matches.Maybe like RIchard Gere Austalians will only think of kissing her. :-D

Sandwich
April 30, 2007, 11:16 PM
Shilpa Shetty is must as spectator in 2011 CWC Australian matches.Maybe like RIchard Gere Austalians will only think of kissing her. :-D


lmao

interesting tactic get the Oz cricket team arrested before the comp starts... though i have to admit shes an extrodinarily attractive women

tonoy
April 30, 2007, 11:27 PM
lmao

interesting tactic get the Oz cricket team arrested before the comp starts... though i have to admit shes an extrodinarily attractive women

yeah, love a woman with an eight pack arrrrrrrrrrrgh.

Miraz
September 13, 2007, 03:55 PM
C'mon England!! do it for Cricket.

It will be great to see Australia crashing out of the tournament from the group stage. :)

Sohel
September 13, 2007, 04:06 PM
... I find it entertaining and enlightning to watch a flawless performance -all executed with clinical precision. There is nothing robotic about such performances - there is sublime artistry to the way they dominate when they do. That is why I go to watch professional sports. That is why I pay to watch professional sports ...

Exactly ... GO OZ !!!

cricman
September 13, 2007, 04:14 PM
Exactly ... GO OZ !!!

I wanna play Mugabe ughh I mean Zimbabwe on the 16th

Sohel
September 13, 2007, 04:29 PM
I wanna play Mugabe ughh I mean Zimbabwe on the 16th

Ain't gonna happen bro ...

Don't worry, we'll beat the mighty OZ ... again ... :D

Hatebreed
September 13, 2007, 06:13 PM
C'mon England, knock the Ozzies out!

Miraz
September 22, 2007, 04:22 PM
Yahooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Finally it happened!!

What a refreshing change!!!

Congrats India for showing Aussies the exit door.

Something new happened aft a long long time. Hopefully this will be the start and aussies will be back to earth.