View Full Version : How keep Australia from the next WC final?

April 30, 2007, 11:46 PM
and then it hit me like lightning, the answer is simplicity itself.

force Australia to host the cup every 2nd WC and you can be reasonably sure they will be eliminated from every 2nd event.

when was the last time the host won the WC?

:lol: :floor: :floor:

April 30, 2007, 11:53 PM
in 1996 co host Srilanka

May 1, 2007, 08:53 AM
Mate, if you let them host the cup, it would be even more disasterous for the rest of the world...

patterns means very little to this extra-ordinary team...

May 3, 2007, 07:15 AM
if some how icc manage to ban ausytralia(like south africa) before next world cup....they can prevent a aus-ban final.

May 3, 2007, 09:59 AM
Don't worry we will stop them in 2011.

May 3, 2007, 12:45 PM
I've actually thought about this quite a bit - and yes this is a non-flippant answer to a flippant question.

West Indies in the 70s and 80s, you may recall was as dominant a team as these batch of Aussies (there were definitely more loved but that's not the issue here). Their success was hinged on a battery of 4 genuine express bowlers who'd intimidate the opposition into submission so that their batsmen could play without inhibition (knowing that any total would be good enough). To combat this, the Aussi-English axis invented the one bouncer per over rule and then started no-balling the bouncers. Those rule changes along with cyclical stuff (retirement, hubris) led to the demise of the West Indian empire.

Now the world is faced with a similar hegemony - only the intimidation this time around comes from the batsmen. Boasting players of incredible power, extreme fitness and equipped with bats with immese sweet spots (ball hits splice and goes for six), Australian success revolves around batting the opposition out of the game and then utilizing a phalanx of extremely accurate, high-bounce bowlers to force opposition to take risks and get out (even Warne was known as much for his containment as his big rippers).

What do we do to combat this?

First of all - make the boundaries bigger. While you can't breed power into desis, you can make them more athletic. Bigger boundaries will negate, to some extent the power factor and I'm confidant that the likes of Indians, Bangladeshis, Lankans can get to the level of fitness of the Aussies.

Second, raise the seam of the ball. The game is becoming to geared to the batting side anyway. Raising the seam will bring back swing bowling and enable seamers to gain exaggerated movement. This way batsmen will have to think twice about just blindly hitting through the line, confident that wherever in the bat the ball hits, it will get runs. With a prominent seam, even standing outside the crease or taking a huge stride like Haydos or Pietersen will give you any advantage on the moving ball.

3rd, make like baseball and put in some regulation on bats themselves. Perhaps limit the use of any artificial materials such as covering sheet or put down regulations on how they are prepared or what woods are used. Go back and watch tennis matches from the 80s - compare that to the carbon powered games now. So much subtlety has been lost from tennis - unless we limit the bat technology, the same will happen.

4th, expand the ICC pitch program so that every country has at least a few bouncy pitches. This way the built-in aussie advantage of knowing how to play bouncy stuff goes away.

al Furqaan
May 3, 2007, 05:43 PM
razab bhai... that was pretty good. can i have permission to post that on my facebook profile?

May 3, 2007, 06:27 PM
Razab bhai that post was really good and really observant!!! I have to admit all the stuff you just said could actually work but I am really not worrying for that too much now because the WC 2011 is a long time and we should focus on our recent games and Bangladesh will kill Australia in the 2011 worldcup anyways!!! If the Pattern thing really works for us then we must win the 2011 WC!!!

May 3, 2007, 06:52 PM
al furqaan - with proper attribution - use away ... :-)

al Furqaan
May 3, 2007, 07:00 PM
al furqaan - with proper attribution - use away ... :-)

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May 3, 2007, 07:06 PM
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May 3, 2007, 09:07 PM
Al Furqaan - if it helps your facebook get more hits - go ahead claim it as yours :) It's all good.

May 3, 2007, 11:15 PM
What ever you say guys .Australians are too professional in their Approach .If other teams wants to beat them ,then don't follow them ,but think of something different and do the basics right in which they are good at .

May 5, 2007, 01:39 PM
Hey Razabq that's a quality post mate. I'm gonna post it on another forum and give you credit of course. I think though that's it's up to the rest to lift their game (yes that's easy to say) rather than changing the game because of one team.

May 5, 2007, 02:12 PM
Sry nope there is nothing stopping the Aussies. Their youngsters are good as hell too. Look at Clarke And Hussey. Even though Hussey had a bad WC he is quite talented.

May 5, 2007, 02:48 PM
with hayden and gilchrist gone, followed by mcgrath and warne, aussie domination will diminish slowly. but then again they may find another incredible hulk and another superman wicket keeper batsman opening the batting and intimidate the hell out of the bowlers.

May 5, 2007, 04:15 PM
just give them the damn cup to stay away from the tournament. or start a 2 tier system. australia will be in the first tie and rest of the team will be in second.