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Sohel
May 30, 2007, 03:57 AM
Batting Order

1. Sir Donald George Bradman (AUS)
2. Clive Hubert Lloyd (WI)
3. Sir Isaac Alexander Vivian Richards (WI)
4. Sir Garfield St. Auburn Sobers (WI- Captain)
5. Brian Charles Lara (WI)
6. Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar (IND)
7. Imran Khan Niazi (PAK- Vice Captain)
8. Adam Craig Gilchrist (AUS- WK)
9. Courtney Andrew Walsh (WI)
10. Shane Keith Warne (AUS)
11. Muttiah Muralitharan (SL)

12th Man: Pinnaduwage Aravinda de Silva (SL)

Coach: William Gilbert Grace

Reserves: AUS: Ian Michael Chappell, Gregory Stephen Chappell, Denis Kieth Lillee, Ricky Thomas Ponting; ENG: Sir Leonard Hutton, John Berry (Jack) Hobbs, Ian Terence Botham; WI: Cuthbert Gordon Greenidge, Wesley Winfield Hall, Curtly Elconn Lynwall Ambrose; IND: Sunil Manohar Gavaskar, Bishan Singh Bedi, Anil Kumble; PAK: Syed Zaheer Abbas Kirmani, Mohammad Javed Miandad Khan, Wasim Akram; NZL: Sir Richard John Hadlee, RSA: Barry Anderson Richards, ZIM: Andrew Flower... and all the others i've missed in my ignorance and bias (NOT being bitter).

Future Maybes: Michael John Clarke (AUS), Kevin Peter Pietersen (ENG), Rahul Sharad Dravid (IND), Mohammad Yousuf (PAK), Kumar Chokshanada Sangakkara (SL).

Longshot, Because This is BC and I'm Bangladeshi: Mohammad Ashraful Matin (BD).

Ganguly da
May 30, 2007, 05:25 PM
jesus where did you get all the middle name?

Farhad
May 30, 2007, 05:54 PM
Gilchrist makes it to the All-time greats? /:) Who knows? Maybe he deserves it as a Wicket Keeper...

SideWinder
May 30, 2007, 06:27 PM
Gilchrist makes it to the All-time greats? /:) Who knows? Maybe he deserves it as a Wicket Keeper...

A team like that doesn't need batting prowess..the top order averages around 70. They need agility. Put Dujon instead of Gilly. Warner over Murali.
Wasim somewhere...

Zunaid
May 30, 2007, 06:31 PM
Sohel - perchance you need to hearken back to history for some other candidates that may have merited inclusion to your list.

I offer Miller, Hobbs and the three W's as possible choices.

But of course, this is your list and your mileage will vary.

SideWinder
May 30, 2007, 06:47 PM
Either murali or warne...not both....

One World
May 30, 2007, 09:36 PM
Either murali or warne...not both....

Offcourse Murali. Team can handle chucking over drugs but not both.

One World
May 30, 2007, 09:38 PM
jesus where did you get all the middle name?


we are lucky he didnt choose Vaas.

Hey is this your test squad or ODI. Is the same team playing 20/20. But just give us Ash. In our day BD can beat any team..you know (Chuckles)

Sohel
May 30, 2007, 11:18 PM
we are lucky he didnt choose Vaas.

Hey is this your test squad or ODI. Is the same team playing 20/20. But just give us Ash. In our day BD can beat any team..you know (Chuckles)

ALL forms of the game and then some, maybe even danguli after a few drinks. good one about our very own Sir Ash bro...

Sohel
May 30, 2007, 11:28 PM
Sohel - perchance you need to hearken back to history for some other candidates that may have merited inclusion to your list.

I offer Miller, Hobbs and the three W's as possible choices.

But of course, this is your list and your mileage will vary.

i thought about the three Ws also, but the already shameless demonstration of my windies bias prevented me from acting out. John Berry (Jack) Hobbs deserves to be there and has been added to the list of reserves with pleasure... too late to drop Tendy with Gangu visiting this page. one billion is a big enough number.

bit lost on the Miller here Z bhai... please drop some knowledge this way.

ammark
May 30, 2007, 11:47 PM
i thought about the three Ws also, but the already shameless demonstration of my windies bias prevented me from acting out. John Berry (Jack) Hobbs deserves to be there and has been added to the list of reserves with pleasure... too late to drop Tendy with Gangu visiting this page. one billion is a big enough number.

bit lost on the Miller here Z bhai... please drop some knowledge this way.

Not a shameless demonstration of Bias given what WI has produced. Warrell, Walcott and Weekes definitely deserve to be there. You also missed out Graeme Pollock of South Africa, Wally Hammond, Herbert Sutcliffe and Denis Compton of England, Prince Ranjitsinjhi of India, Richie Benaud of Australia. Its a very long list of cricketers vying for 11 spots.

Zunaid
May 31, 2007, 12:03 AM
Keith Miller - arguably one of the best all rounders.


<table class="engineTable"> <caption>Batting and fielding averages</caption> <thead> <tr class="head"> <th>
</th> <th>Mat</th> <th>Inns</th> <th>NO</th> <th>Runs</th> <th>HS</th> <th>Ave</th> <th>100</th> <th>50</th> <th>6s</th> <th>Ct</th> <th>St</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody><tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">Tests</td> <td>55</td> <td>87</td> <td>7</td> <td>2958</td> <td>147</td> <td>36.97</td> <td>7</td> <td>13</td> <td>28</td> <td>38</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">First-class</td> <td>226</td> <td>326</td> <td>36</td> <td>14183</td> <td>281*</td> <td>48.90</td> <td>41</td> <td>63</td> <td>
</td> <td>136</td> <td>0</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
<table class="engineTable"> <caption>Bowling averages</caption> <thead> <tr class="head"> <th>
</th> <th>Mat</th> <th>Balls</th> <th>Runs</th> <th>Wkts</th> <th>BBI</th> <th>BBM</th> <th>Ave</th> <th>Econ</th> <th>SR</th> <th>4</th> <th>5</th> <th>10</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody><tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">Tests</td> <td>55</td> <td>10461</td> <td>3906</td> <td>170</td> <td>7/60</td> <td>10/152</td> <td>22.97</td> <td>2.24</td> <td>61.53</td> <td>8</td> <td>7</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">First-class</td> <td>226</td> <td>28070</td> <td>11087</td> <td>497</td> <td>7/12</td> <td>
</td> <td>22.30</td> <td>2.36</td> <td>56.47</td> <td>
</td> <td>16</td> <td>1</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Zunaid
May 31, 2007, 12:06 AM
Its a very long list of cricketers vying for 11 spots.

Perhaps a more interesting exercise would be to compose an all Northern and Southern Hemisphere teams?

The south get SAF, NZ, Aus, Zim

The north get Eng, Ban, Pak, Ind, SL

To have a balance, WI are the WIld cards - can belong in any team. Let the games begin.

Sohel
May 31, 2007, 12:15 AM
Keith Miller - arguably one of the best all rounders.


<table class="engineTable"> <caption>Batting and fielding averages</caption> <thead> <tr class="head"> <th>
</th> <th>Mat</th> <th>Inns</th> <th>NO</th> <th>Runs</th> <th>HS</th> <th>Ave</th> <th>100</th> <th>50</th> <th>6s</th> <th>Ct</th> <th>St</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody><tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">Tests</td> <td>55</td> <td>87</td> <td>7</td> <td>2958</td> <td>147</td> <td>36.97</td> <td>7</td> <td>13</td> <td>28</td> <td>38</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">First-class</td> <td>226</td> <td>326</td> <td>36</td> <td>14183</td> <td>281*</td> <td>48.90</td> <td>41</td> <td>63</td> <td>
</td> <td>136</td> <td>0</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
<table class="engineTable"> <caption>Bowling averages</caption> <thead> <tr class="head"> <th>
</th> <th>Mat</th> <th>Balls</th> <th>Runs</th> <th>Wkts</th> <th>BBI</th> <th>BBM</th> <th>Ave</th> <th>Econ</th> <th>SR</th> <th>4</th> <th>5</th> <th>10</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody><tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">Tests</td> <td>55</td> <td>10461</td> <td>3906</td> <td>170</td> <td>7/60</td> <td>10/152</td> <td>22.97</td> <td>2.24</td> <td>61.53</td> <td>8</td> <td>7</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">First-class</td> <td>226</td> <td>28070</td> <td>11087</td> <td>497</td> <td>7/12</td> <td>
</td> <td>22.30</td> <td>2.36</td> <td>56.47</td> <td>
</td> <td>16</td> <td>1</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

thanks Z bhai... right you were. why doesn't that surprise me?

Sohel
May 31, 2007, 12:18 AM
Not a shameless demonstration of Bias given what WI has produced. Warrell, Walcott and Weekes definitely deserve to be there. You also missed out Graeme Pollock of South Africa, Wally Hammond, Herbert Sutcliffe and Denis Compton of England, Prince Ranjitsinjhi of India, Richie Benaud of Australia. Its a very long list of cricketers vying for 11 spots.

absolutely bro... i've added a little something to the original post. just won't drop clive, too cool a head to start the innings.

Sohel
May 31, 2007, 12:22 AM
Perhaps a more interesting exercise would be to compose an all Northern and Southern Hemisphere teams?

The south get SAF, NZ, Aus, Zim

The north get Eng, Ban, Pak, Ind, SL

To have a balance, WI are the WIld cards - can belong in any team. Let the games begin.

please don't try to delegate this one Z bhai, because you can set it up and start the process better than most of us. so can we expect to see some action? hopefully sooner rather than later?... maybe with links to cricinfo?... (drool)

jabbar
May 31, 2007, 12:22 AM
Offcourse Murali. Team can handle chucking over drugs but not both.

Don't forget the sex scandals. Warne comes with an awful lotta baggage.

ammark
May 31, 2007, 12:36 AM
Perhaps a more interesting exercise would be to compose an all Northern and Southern Hemisphere teams?

The south get SAF, NZ, Aus, Zim

The north get Eng, Ban, Pak, Ind, SL

To have a balance, WI are the WIld cards - can belong in any team. Let the games begin.

Dr.Z, a combination team composed entirely of WI players would be good enough to whoop any other top Northern or Southern Team.

lemme just draw up 3 pools here then, choose your players and take your pick*:

Northern (BD, Pak, Ind, SL, Eng)

Ind: Sachin Tendulkar, Anil Kumble, Rahul Dravid, Saurav Ganguly, Prince Ranjitsingjhi, Kapil Dev, Sunil Gavaskar, Bishan Singh Bedi, Pak: Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Wasim Akram, Saeed Anwar, Abdul Qadir, Waqar Yunus, Saqlain Mushtaq, Yousuf Youhana/Mohd Yousuf, Inzamam-ul-Haq SL: Muttiah Muralitharan, Arjuna Ranatunga, Aravinda de Silva, Sanath Jayasuriya, Chaminda Vaas, ENG: Sir Leonard Hutton, John Berry (Jack) Hobbs, Ian Terence Botham, Wally Hammond, Herbert Sutcliffe, Denis Compton, Colin Cowdrey, Geoffrey Boycott, Ted Dexter.

Southern (Aus, NZ, RSA)
Aus: Sir Donald George Bradman, Keith Miller, Adam Craig Gilchrist, Shane Keith Warne, Ian Michael Chappell, Gregory Stephen Chappell, Allan Border, Denis Kieth Lillee, Ricky Thomas Ponting, Richie Benaud, Glenn McGrath. RSA: Barry Anderson Richards, Graeme Pollock, Gary Kirsten, Allan Donald, Jacques Kallis. Zim: Andrew Flower (?). NZ: Sir Richard Hadlee, Chris Cairns (?)

WI
Clive Hubert Lloyd, Sir Isaac Alexander Vivian Richards, Sir Garfield St. Auburn Sobers, Brian Charles Lara, Cuthbert Gordon Greenidge, Wesley Winfield Hall, Courtney Andrew Walsh, Curtly Elconn Lynwall Ambrose, Malcolm Marshall, Andy Roberts, Joel Garner, Michael Holding, Sonny Ramadhin, Alf Valentine, Desmond Haynes, Sir Frank Worrell, Sir Clyde Walcott, Sir Everton Weekes, Rohan Kanhai, Alvin Kallicharran

* We're talking about Players who were real specialists in what they did and of the highest class, in terms of consistency, temperament, and just sheer quality. Sadly no one from Bangladesh has attained that yet. For much of the older players, remember that most of the games they played were test match innings, where it was a bowlers game and temperament, perseverance and patience was required of the batsmen All the time.

This list is by no means exhaustive.

Sohel
May 31, 2007, 12:38 AM
Dr.Z, a combination team composed entirely of WI players would be good enough to whoop any other top Northern or Southern Team.

lemme just draw up 3 pools here then:

--WIP--

possibly true despite those glorious uncertainties... no aussies in the room yet, no poms either.

gatekeeper
May 31, 2007, 12:48 AM
Batting Order

1. Sir Donald George Bradman (AUS)
2. Clive Hubert Lloyd (WI)
3. Sir Isaac Alexander Vivian Richards (WI)
4. Sir Garfield St. Auburn Sobers (WI- Captain)
5. Brian Charles Lara (WI)
6. Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar (IND)
7. Imran Khan Niazi (PAK- Vice Captain)
8. Adam Craig Gilchrist (AUS- WK)
9. Courtney Andrew Walsh (WI)
10. Shane Keith Warne (AUS)
11. Muttiah Muralitharan (SL)

(BD).


I would replace Lloyd with Miandad. Not pterry to watch but a true fighter and a match winner. Unless off course you want Lloyd to captain the side.

gatekeeper
May 31, 2007, 12:49 AM
Don't forget the sex scandals. Warne comes with an awful lotta baggage.

Still the best in his trade.

ammark
May 31, 2007, 01:03 AM
- list updated, see my previous post

Sohel
May 31, 2007, 02:27 AM
I would replace Lloyd with Miandad. Not pterry to watch but a true fighter and a match winner. Unless off course you want Lloyd to captain the side.

i dig javed. but too soft a spot for clive bro, a match winner in his own right, and then some. he can only be replaced by one of the three Ws in my book.

Sohel
May 31, 2007, 02:28 AM
- list updated, see my previous post

i like it. i'd add Rohan Bholalall Kanhai to the WI lineup.

cleazer
May 31, 2007, 03:02 AM
I am not a fan of England at all, but watch out for Kevin Pietersen, that guy is just getting better and better all the time.

Now that Lara, Warne, McGrath, and Inzamam are retired, and guys like Tendulkar and Murali are getting close to retirement, I would not be surprised if Kevin Pietersen turns into the #1 star in world cricket in a few years.

Sohel
May 31, 2007, 03:45 AM
I am not a fan of England at all, but watch out for Kevin Pietersen, that guy is just getting better and better all the time.

Now that Lara, Warne, McGrath, and Inzamam are retired, and guys like Tendulkar and Murali are getting close to retirement, I would not be surprised if Kevin Pietersen turns into the #1 star in world cricket in a few years.

i feel the same way about KP.

BD-Shardul
May 31, 2007, 04:01 AM
Why Tendu, who always fail under pressure is there? Inzamam is far better then Tendu. Stat is not all.

Sohel
May 31, 2007, 05:08 AM
Why Tendu, who always fail under pressure is there? Inzamam is far better then Tendu. Stat is not all.

look at his WHOLE career bro, and then you'll see why he must be. i think ponting will surpass tendy, and clarke and KP both may pass ponting by the time they retire. walsh, ambrose and lillee won't have rivals in the near future (no disrespect to garner, marshall, younis and mcgrath not in my list), and chawla maybe the only one joining warne and murali if all goes well in the future.

Sohel
May 31, 2007, 05:53 AM
Batting Order

1. Sir Donald George Bradman (AUS)
2. Clive Hubert Lloyd (WI)
3. Sir Isaac Alexander Vivian Richards (WI)
4. Sir Garfield St. Auburn Sobers (WI- Captain)
5. Brian Charles Lara (WI)
6. Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar (IND)
7. Imran Khan Niazi (PAK- Vice Captain)
8. Adam Craig Gilchrist (AUS- WK)
9. Courtney Andrew Walsh (WI)
10. Shane Keith Warne (AUS)
11. Muttiah Muralitharan (SL)

12th Man: Pinnaduwage Aravinda de Silva (SL)

Coach: William Gilbert Grace

Reserves: AUS: Keith Ross Miller, Ian Michael Chappell, Gregory Stephen Chappell, Denis Kieth Lillee, Ricky Thomas Ponting; ENG: Sir Leonard Hutton, John Berry (Jack) Hobbs, Ian Terence Botham; WI: Sir Frank Mortimer Maglinne Worrell, Sir Clyde Leopold Walcott, Sir Everton de Courcy Weekes, Cuthbert Gordon Greenidge, Wesley Winfield Hall, Curtly Elconn Lynwall Ambrose; IND: Sunil Manohar Gavaskar, Bishan Singh Bedi, Anil Kumble; PAK: Syed Zaheer Abbas Kirmani, Mohammad Javed Miandad Khan, Wasim Akram; NZL: Sir Richard John Hadlee, RSA: Barry Anderson Richards, ZIM: Andrew Flower... and all the others i've missed in my ignorance and bias (NOT being bitter).

Future Maybes: Michael John Clarke (AUS), Kevin Peter Pietersen (ENG), Rahul Sharad Dravid (IND), Mohammad Yousuf (PAK), Kumar Chokshanada Sangakkara (SL).

Longshot, Because This is BC and I'm Bangladeshi: Mohammad Ashraful Matin (BD).

Thanks Z bhai... made important updates to the original.

SideWinder
June 1, 2007, 08:26 AM
[QUOTE=ammark;470013]

SL: Muttiah Muralitharan, Aravinda de Silva, Sanath Jayasuriya, Chaminda Vaas

YOU FORGOT....Arjuna Ranatunga...he was the match winner (Inzi) of SRL.:mad: :mad:

Sohel
June 1, 2007, 08:52 AM
[QUOTE=ammark;470013]

SL: Muttiah Muralitharan, Aravinda de Silva, Sanath Jayasuriya, Chaminda Vaas

YOU FORGOT....Arjuna Ranatunga...he was the match winner (Inzi) of SRL.:mad: :mad:

thanks for the knowledge, your worship.

Carte Blanche
June 1, 2007, 08:52 AM
I'm surprised you included Imran Khan in the top 11, that too as a vice-captain. His individual record pales in comparison to his elite company. If you're putting him up there for his leadership abilities, at least make him the captain or go with Steve Waugh. Also, McGrath is arguably the finest bowler of our generation. I'm shocked he didn't even make it to the reserves, considering Ambrose and Flower made it. Anyway, this is not to criticize your effort. It's impossible to please everyone with this kind of list. I just had to vent my surprise that you overlooked the postman. ;)

Sohel
June 1, 2007, 09:03 AM
Carte Blanche: i see your point. imran's their not only because of the memories and stats, but also the overall impact his presence has had on his team. selections such as the one in this thread are subjective, and everyone's encouraged to post theirs. i'd love to see you post yours.

cool avatar BTW.

Carte Blanche
June 1, 2007, 09:18 AM
Inspiring as Imran's '92 triumph was, I don't believe he will have that kind of influence in a "khichuri" team. I doubt his flamboyant leadership will translate to anything in a team that is not purely subcontinental.

My team will be similar to yours. Just replace Walsh with Akram or McGrath. The problem with replacing Imran, however, is that it leaves the team with 1 fast bowler only. That's pretty soft for an all-time 11. I'll have to think of who to replace Imran with.

ps: your avatar is cool too. At first I thought it's an error and I was about to instruct you how to correctly upload one. ;)

One World
June 1, 2007, 10:05 AM
I have also found the same issue first time I saw the pickings. This team does not have quality pace bowler. In an ODI at Mirpur or any flat track a good batting team like Australia can tuladhuna this bowling options. Besides who will field at long on and extra cover positions. The opponent will easily get away with lot of runout chances if not catches at short mid wicket as Sachin is there.

Carte Blanche
June 1, 2007, 10:17 AM
May be we can take out Lara and make room for a pacer.

Tigers_eye
June 1, 2007, 11:05 AM
- list updated, see my previous post
Please add one man who is SL cricket. Ranatunga.
In your list I don't see WKers. Sangakkara is a shoe-in even if he retires now.

Sohel bhai,
Your team looks to be good but lacks a little fast bowling power. If the match is played on a seam wicket I would some how replace Warne with McGrath. Walsh needs a partner. Unless you think Imran would take the new ball.

As for my personal choice, I'd take Sir Richard Hadlee instead of Lara or Tendulkar (coin toss). I need those 20 wickets (win) instead of 1000 runs (draw) in a innings.

SideWinder
June 1, 2007, 01:42 PM
[QUOTE=SideWinder;470881]

thanks for the knowledge, your worship.

I'm not a magistrate :floor:

SideWinder
June 1, 2007, 01:44 PM
Inspiring as Imran's '92 triumph was, I don't believe he will have that kind of influence in a "khichuri" team. I doubt his flamboyant leadership will translate to anything in a team that is not purely subcontinental.

My team will be similar to yours. Just replace Walsh with Akram or McGrath. The problem with replacing Imran, however, is that it leaves the team with 1 fast bowler only. That's pretty soft for an all-time 11. I'll have to think of who to replace Imran with.

ps: your avatar is cool too. At first I thought it's an error and I was about to instruct you how to correctly upload one. ;)

Imran is in the top 3 greatest bowlers ever statistically by 1CC, so I think he deserves a spot. he ranks higher than wasim, and overall, he statistically is better than wasim believe it or not.

James90
June 1, 2007, 06:58 PM
Gavaskar
Hobbs
*Bradman
V Richards
Miller
Sobers
Imran Khan
Gilchrist
Warne
Marshall
Holding

12th Man - Hutton

SideWinder
June 1, 2007, 09:41 PM
Gavaskar
Hobbs
*Bradman
V Richards
Miller
Sobers
Imran Khan
Gilchrist
Warne
Marshall
Holding

12th Man - Hutton
Either lara or tendu

Sohel
June 1, 2007, 11:40 PM
I have also found the same issue first time I saw the pickings. This team does not have quality pace bowler. In an ODI at Mirpur or any flat track a good batting team like Australia can tuladhuna this bowling options. Besides who will field at long on and extra cover positions. The opponent will easily get away with lot of runout chances if not catches at short mid wicket as Sachin is there.

:lol: ... imagine these guys in playing mirpur, on the moron curator's pitch !!!

good points, as always bro.

One World
June 2, 2007, 12:51 AM
:lol: ... imagine these guys in playing mirpur, on the moron curator's pitch !!!

good points, as always bro.


Man dont u love cricket!! Here is an old thread I thought you might be interested,

http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=11911

ammark
June 2, 2007, 04:25 AM
YOU FORGOT....Arjuna Ranatunga...he was the match winner (Inzi) of SRL.:mad: :mad:

I refer you to disclaimer given therein. (in other words "Read the fine print :D") :

...
This list is by no means exhaustive.

addendum: The player pool list has been enlarged, and updated.

Sohel
June 2, 2007, 04:55 AM
Man dont u love cricket!! Here is an old thread I thought you might be interested,

http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=11911

funny to see some of those selections... opi and biddut generated a lot of expectations for me personally. thanks bro. BTW, whom will you suggest to bowl on the mirpur wicket? marshall (intelligence and the legcutter), akram (reverse swing), holding (if anyone can generate deceptive pace on that otherwise dead wicket, he can) or mcgrath (containment) with murali (magic) and warne (more magic) perhaps? keep in mind that Sir Garry's there already with his goolie and chinaman...

also, do you read CLR James at all? my cuz has just turned me on to him... i'm on the lookout for Beyond A Boundary before resorting back to amazon...

Rabz
June 2, 2007, 05:20 AM
Don't forget the sex scandals. Warne comes with an awful lotta baggage.

And thats what makes him so special....
all those drama, scandal and what not..
still he is ( was) the best in the business in his days...
....best by far..in case u have missed....

Imagine what he could have done if he had concentrated only on cricket and cricket only... 1000 wickets... shmuuuhh.....

The guy who can manage to sneak in 2 ladies on his hotel room on the end of 3rd day's play and go on about his business to take 4 wickets on the 4th day... is a legend on my book.:-D

SideWinder
June 2, 2007, 06:56 AM
And thats what makes him so special....
all those drama, scandal and what not..
still he is ( was) the best in the business in his days...
....best by far..in case u have missed....

Imagine what he could have done if he had concentrated only on cricket and cricket only... 1000 wickets... shmuuuhh.....

The guy who can manage to sneak in 2 ladies on his hotel room on the end of 3rd day's play and go on about his business to take 4 wickets on the 4th day... is a legend on my book.:-D

True, but he did go for quite alot of runs.

One World
June 2, 2007, 01:36 PM
funny to see some of those selections... opi and biddut generated a lot of expectations for me personally. thanks bro. BTW, whom will you suggest to bowl on the mirpur wicket? marshall (intelligence and the legcutter), akram (reverse swing), holding (if anyone can generate deceptive pace on that otherwise dead wicket, he can) or mcgrath (containment) with murali (magic) and warne (more magic) perhaps? keep in mind that Sir Garry's there already with his goolie and chinaman...

also, do you read CLR James at all? my cuz has just turned me on to him... i'm on the lookout for Beyond A Boundary before resorting back to amazon...

Hey tough choices. I will leave it to the more cricket gurus around. But personal choice would be Ambrose over Imran Khan, keep Murali and Warne in tact..:timeout:

SideWinder
June 2, 2007, 04:24 PM
Hey tough choices. I will leave it to the more cricket gurus around. But personal choice would be Ambrose over Imran Khan, keep Murali and Warne in tact..:timeout:

Curtly wasn't THAT good....he was fairly overrated. Imran never was and never will be.

Bengaliprince176
June 2, 2007, 04:41 PM
3 important points, firsty keeper has to be the best, who cares if he cant bat, look at the 5 other batsman from what ive seen Jack Russel was the best in international, and he was evry gutsy player and was good at keeping morale high, if anyone can give me the names of good keepers that wud b useful.

secondly, captain has to be the best lader and fighter, but he has to be decent enough to have respect of players like Viv Richards etc, doesnt matter how good your leadership skills are u have to be good enough to control them

thirdly, it pains me as an indian and sachin 'worshipper', but in all honesty in a world XI i dont think he makes it, there are much better players. if u want a flat track and a player who can come in at 450-2 then he's the man!!

SideWinder
June 3, 2007, 04:54 PM
lets have greatest odi team, test team, wc team, etc..