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Sillypoint
June 13, 2007, 03:06 PM
http://www.thedailystar.net/2007/06/14/d70614040224.htm

Ash is practicing to bowl leg breaks about an hour each day. He said:

"This time I also focused on my bowling that's why almost everyday I have tried a few overs in the nets. I used to bowl in domestic competitions on regular basis but hardly got the chance in international matches," said the young Tigers skipper.
"I think it would be helpful for our regular bowlers if I could lend my support sometimes, especially in the Test series. But I only take the ball if situation demands, otherwise not,"

Now that he is the captain, I am guessing we will see him bowl occasionally during test and odi. Bashar who had a very conservative attitude would hardly use other bowlers to break a partnership or try something new to distract the concentration of the batsmen. I think we will see more variation in bowling from captain Ash.

I hope he will not over use himself and his batting will not suffer. He should try other occasional bowlers besides himself. May he become our Tendulkar!

cricman
June 13, 2007, 03:07 PM
Ashraful's Batting Talent < Ashraful's Bowling Talent, but he really needs to sharpen up his bowling can't bowl like he did vs India but a couple of good net sessions and he'll be fine. Plus th Article said a least one hour he probably bowled 2 hours

Murad
June 13, 2007, 03:18 PM
that would be better if he bowls few overs to give some breaks to the bowlers.....

shamokal reports that.. Graime House (the level 2 coach trainer) told ash to practive bowling...and he has given him some tips as well..

Shamokal Report (http://www.shamokal.com/details.php?nid=63926)

Sillypoint
June 13, 2007, 03:29 PM
I wish he bowled off breaks rather than leg breaks....hope he will give rajin more opportunities (isn't Rajin an off spinner?)

Shaan
June 13, 2007, 03:53 PM
I wish he bowled off breaks rather than leg breaks....hope he will give rajin more opportunities (isn't Rajin an off spinner?)


yeah Rajin is off spiner.

gatekeeper
June 13, 2007, 05:12 PM
Ashraful started out as a leg spinner. Actually has decent away turn.

Electrequiem
June 13, 2007, 05:18 PM
It would be a good option to have Ash bowl sporadically during ODIs ... he can harness the breakthroughs that Tendulkar has managed to get many times.

off-topic: Anyone know why Luvlee_Nik got banned?

Trigger_Tiger
June 13, 2007, 05:37 PM
I always found Ashraful's bowling potentially good. He needs to harness it a bit more.
My honest opinion is that Ash doesn't have to try to hard to become a decent and successful bowler. Just a little effort and he would be a fine all-rounder.

His bowling should never be the problem.....his batting will however always remain a woe unless it comes to him as naturally as his bowling does almost always and not just sporadically *sigh*!

Kabir
June 13, 2007, 05:42 PM
I have been asking for this for a long time now. And I predicted in one of my posts here that he will bring himself into the part-time bowling attack once he becomes a captain.

I guess I'm just too cool.:cool:

Trigger_Tiger
June 13, 2007, 05:50 PM
I have been asking for this for a long time now. And I predicted in one of my posts here that he will bring himself into the part-time bowling attack once he becomes a captain.

I guess I'm just too cool.:cool:

OMG, you're so cool :timeout:!!!!!

Nah, well you were right :-p!
It's a captaincy thing mostly and most Asian captains have bowled as well and done pretty good indeed :)!

IanW
June 13, 2007, 06:05 PM
The nice thing about a leg spinner is that, unlike offspinners and quicks, they can often take wickets with total crap, as something that is short and wide and spins a *little* more than expected is spooned up in the air for a catch.

So I'd encourage Ash to try and use himself as a partnership-breaker ... but only in 2-3 over spells.

Ian Whitchurch

damalChele
June 13, 2007, 06:05 PM
positive approach..haba was too afraid of experimenting with new bowlers as an element of surprise.

Trigger_Tiger
June 13, 2007, 06:18 PM
positive approach..haba was too afraid of experimenting with new bowlers as an element of surprise.

I think HaBa was aa Off-Spinner himself :-/

Omio
June 14, 2007, 04:59 AM
I think if he continue his bowling it will b good for us..
We got another option , Aftab ahmed.
His bowling is really effective in odi but for some reason we didnt see him to bowl..

WarWolf
June 14, 2007, 06:53 AM
Love to see him watch bowling for breaking partnership. He has a gifted ability to turn the ball which really means something for taking wickets.

gatekeeper
June 14, 2007, 07:54 AM
The nice thing about a leg spinner is that, unlike offspinners and quicks, they can often take wickets with total crap, as something that is short and wide and spins a *little* more than expected is spooned up in the air for a catch.

So I'd encourage Ash to try and use himself as a partnership-breaker ... but only in 2-3 over spells.

Ian Whitchurch

........sort of like Tendulkar?

al Furqaan
June 14, 2007, 08:47 AM
positive approach..haba was too afraid of experimenting with new bowlers as an element of surprise.

haba was too afraid of success or trying something new...

Sohel
June 14, 2007, 10:01 AM
haba was too afraid of success or trying something new...

i've seen him bowl a few during this training camp ... reminded me of an ashley giles on sleeping pills.

AsifTheManRahman
June 14, 2007, 10:03 AM
looking forward to some "cheeky" bowling. ;)

al Furqaan
June 14, 2007, 10:11 AM
i've seen him bowl a few during this training camp ... reminded me of an ashley giles on sleeping pills.

bashar or ash?

Sohel
June 14, 2007, 10:15 AM
bashar or ash?

HaBa, and from the looks of it, he was dead serious. i think he wants bowl a few during the ODI series. prothom alo even had a report on the rather bizarre scene. ash was not amused BTW.

Fahim
June 14, 2007, 03:51 PM
It would be a good option to have Ash bowl sporadically during ODIs ... he can harness the breakthroughs that Tendulkar has managed to get many times.

off-topic: Anyone know why Luvlee_Nik got banned?

yeah why did luvlee_nik get banned?:o

AsifTheManRahman
June 14, 2007, 04:12 PM
i'd watched bashar's prize wicket of lara on tv. i don't quite remember what his bowling action's like, but whenever he's throwing the ball in from the outfield, he somewhat resembles super mario from his 2d days; could be because of the lack of foot movement and the lateral movement of the shoulders along with the hand, as well as the cap covering most of his face.

Slysaint
June 14, 2007, 04:16 PM
just what bangladesh needs, ifran pathan wannabe :(, his batting isnt something to write home about just yet, eventhough he has talent to be one of the best. instead of focusing on his batting, he is wasting his time on bowling. r-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s. he bowled in domestic cricket, well he should have spent that time honing his batting skills .. grrr

Trigger_Tiger
June 14, 2007, 04:23 PM
just what bangladesh needs, ifran pathan wannabe :(, his batting isnt something to write home about just yet, eventhough he has talent to be one of the best. instead of focusing on his batting, he is wasting his time on bowling. r-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s. he bowled in domestic cricket, well he should have spent that time honing his batting skills .. grrr

And Naser Hussain was predicted to be one of the "greatest" leg spinners of all times in the making.....so.....what if Ash turns out to be a better bowler than a batsman eh /:)?????

cracky
June 14, 2007, 04:23 PM
Well, some Australlian trainers were impressed to see Ash bowling:
http://www.prothom-alo.org/mcat.news.details.php?nid=NDQ3MDg=&mid=OA==

betaar
June 14, 2007, 04:33 PM
just what bangladesh needs, ifran pathan wannabe :(, his batting isnt something to write home about just yet, eventhough he has talent to be one of the best. instead of focusing on his batting, he is wasting his time on bowling. r-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s. he bowled in domestic cricket, well he should have spent that time honing his batting skills .. grrr

I don't think Ash focusing on his bowling would have any effect on his batting....in fact it will make him observe batsmen from other teams more closely and may help him making better decisions as captain. Now if he's taking time off from his batting to practice bowling that may cause issue, but from the sound of it he's just working little extra to become a better bowler.

I think it is a good thing that he's trying to lead from the front in all departments. He's already one of our best batsmen and an electrifying talkative (with occasional ferrywalla tone type comment) fielder, so hey, why not a bowling? :smug:

Trigger_Tiger
June 14, 2007, 05:04 PM
I don't think Ash focusing on his bowling would have any effect on his batting....in fact it will make him observe batsmen from other teams more closely and may help him making better decisions as captain. Now if he's taking time off from his batting to practice bowling that may cause issue, but from the sound of it he's just working little extra to become a better bowler.

I think it is a good thing that he's trying to lead from the front in all departments. He's already one of our best batsmen and an electrifying talkative (with occasional ferrywalla tone type comment) fielder, so hey, why not a bowling? :smug:

Right on spot there brother.....couldn't agree anymore with you there :)!!!!!

israr
June 14, 2007, 05:07 PM
It'll be good for the team, we need someone like Gayle, who has a gargantuan influence on the team. Gayle's exuberance at many times and his ablity to take wickets sporadically or breaking an imminent match-winning partnership(remember Ind's 1 run loss to WI/WI's victory over Aus in CT) has helped Windies to win quite a few significant games in the past . Our Ash is the one who I feel is the main nucleus of Bangladesh, and he, like Gayle, has the greatest influence on our younger players, so Matin should lead from the front to set examples, and he bowling more ocassionally will add a new dimension to our team's bowling composition. And don't worry Slysaint, our Ash is not a puppet like Pathan, and we don't have any 'Chapell' here coaching Bangladesh. It should be clear from the statement he's made that he'll only come in to bowl when needed, which implies he is not focusing completely on becoming an all-time allrounder, but rather, removing some of the prodigious burden from our main bowlers' shoulders, which they often had to carry in the near past.

mali007
June 14, 2007, 06:55 PM
Looking forward for Ash's GOOGLIES. HABA was so defencesive that he ignored Ash's
bowling abilities. Now, HABA don't misses catches of Ash's!!!

selina
June 14, 2007, 07:31 PM
Right now I'm just going to look at his bowling as a bonus. I just want Ash to captain well and work his magic as a batsmen. If he can manage to find some success with his bowling, then I'll be overjoyed. But if he doesn't, then I won't be completely crushed either.

One World
June 14, 2007, 07:47 PM
who is habibul bashar...heck no!

Ash is a smart cricketer. There will be no problem with his bowling short spells.

Trigger_Tiger
June 14, 2007, 08:24 PM
who is habibul bashar...heck no!

Ash is a smart cricketer. There will be no problem with his bowling short spells.

I still think though that Haba should have practiced bowling a little too.....

Ash can be our Sachin given that he rectifies his batting mistakes, because I am confident he WILL become a handy bowler :)!!!!!

SMHasan
June 14, 2007, 08:25 PM
All we need is some variety in our attack. In fact we have some decent part time bowlers but they became rusty under a conservative captaincy. At present our attack is very much predictable. Hope in this new era we will see something different from Ashraful.

Most importantly we need a specialist leg spinner who will give us some good break throughs. Since we started playing serious cricket we haven't seen any specialist leg spinner playing in our national team. Leg spin is one of the most difficult art to master in cricket, but after all some one must try to do so for our own sake.

al Furqaan
June 14, 2007, 08:44 PM
All we need is some variety in our attack. In fact we have some decent part time bowlers but they became rusty under a conservative captaincy. At present our attack is very much predictable. Hope in this new era we will see something different from Ashraful.

Most importantly we need a specialist leg spinner who will give us some good break throughs. Since we started playing serious cricket we haven't seen any specialist leg spinner playing in our national team. Leg spin is one of the most difficult art to master in cricket, but after all some one must try to do so for our own sake.

yea...even rajin never bowls anymore...

al Furqaan
June 14, 2007, 08:45 PM
he somewhat resembles super mario from his 2d days;

ROFLMAO :floor::floor::floor::floor::floor:

but even 2D mario had more cranial activity than our 3D bashar on the field.

SMHasan
June 14, 2007, 08:52 PM
yea...even rajin never bowls anymore...

In fact I hate wasting talent. If you know something then practise it. Never let this go.

Our country is full of talents but lack of utilizing it. We need to use these boys brain a bit more. If we could have used our brain properly then we would have been the richest and the most developed nation in the world today- given that we got natural talent.

IanW
June 14, 2007, 08:59 PM
Most importantly we need a specialist leg spinner who will give us some good break throughs. Since we started playing serious cricket we haven't seen any specialist leg spinner playing in our national team. Leg spin is one of the most difficult art to master in cricket, but after all some one must try to do so for our own sake.

Umm, if that strategy worked, then England would have had a decent legspinner since Bosanquet.

Similar points can be made about Australia and offspinners (we tend to have an OK one every 20 years).

But seriously, I'd argue strongly that the current first-string Tigers attack has variety - you have an express quick, a fast-medium, a medium swing bowler and slow left arm. That isnt too bad.

Ian Whitchurch

Antora
June 15, 2007, 01:38 AM
omg!!! even though i wanted to see ash bowl.. i kinda dont want him to anymore... I mean what if bowling makes him lose his wonderful ability to bat???? then we will lose like the best batsman of bd (after tamim)

Shafin
June 15, 2007, 10:32 AM
Umm, if that strategy worked, then England would have had a decent legspinner since Bosanquet.

Similar points can be made about Australia and offspinners (we tend to have an OK one every 20 years).

But seriously, I'd argue strongly that the current first-string Tigers attack has variety - you have an express quick, a fast-medium, a medium swing bowler and slow left arm. That isnt too bad.

Ian Whitchurch
No,but with a good Leggie,that'd be better,we've got the SLA's to contain runs,but they are not genuine strike bowlers,normally.

akabir77
June 15, 2007, 10:51 AM
I think this will be very good for him and bangladesh. cause we all know he wont score every day or series or month... so be in a fighting spirit and have some respect from others he has to bowl well and get wickets...

GO ash Go

TripleR
June 15, 2007, 10:54 AM
As my opinion Ash should stop bowling & cosentrate on his batting more or ppl will start doubting whether he should be on the team....coz he's scoring too low these days....look at his average for instance.

SS
June 15, 2007, 10:55 AM
We need Ashraful the batsmen more than Ashraful the bowler.
Batting will be the key for upcoming test as bowling wise it is impossible for our bowling squad to take 20 wkts of SL.

amra_korbo_joy
June 15, 2007, 10:55 AM
If Ashraful plays with out any pressure, he always shine. So if he becomes a regular bowler, then there will be no pressure on his batting. As a result, his batting will improve automatically.

akabir77
June 15, 2007, 10:57 AM
As my opinion Ash should stop bowling & cosentrate on his batting more or ppl will start doubting whether he should be on the team....coz he's scoring too low these days....look at his average for instance.

his avg is/was low when he didn't bowl so no harm done...

rah
June 15, 2007, 11:09 AM
ROFLMAO :floor::floor::floor::floor::floor:

but even 2D mario had more cranial activity than our 3D bashar on the field.

:floor: :floor: :floor:
yeh anyways ash should try bowling 2-4 overs in odi's, it will take sum strain of da otha bowlas

Fazal
June 15, 2007, 11:14 AM
ROFLMAO :floor::floor::floor::floor::floor:



but even 2D mario had more cranial activity than our 3D bashar on the field.
:floor: :floor: :floor:
yeh anyways ash should try bowling 2-4 overs in odi's, it will take sum strain of da otha bowlas

:floor:

btw why you guys are laughing so much? akdom floorey Gora Gori?

IanW
June 15, 2007, 01:05 PM
Batting will be the key for upcoming test as bowling wise it is impossible for our bowling squad to take 20 wkts of SL.

Rubbish. The first-string Tigers bowling attack of Shahadat,Masrafee, Rafique, Hasan as the all rounder and one of Rasel or Rassak or Enamul depending on conditions is more than adequate to take 20 wickets ... if they bowl well and the fielders do their part.

Dont bag the team when it doesnt deserve it. This isnt a crap side any more.

Ian Whitchurch

sadi
June 15, 2007, 01:07 PM
The question is whether our slip fielders can take some catches this time. I still haven't seen our slip fielders take a good catch.

SS
June 15, 2007, 02:02 PM
Rubbish. The first-string Tigers bowling attack of Shahadat,Masrafee, Rafique, Hasan as the all rounder and one of Rasel or Rassak or Enamul depending on conditions is more than adequate to take 20 wickets ... if they bowl well and the fielders do their part.

Dont bag the team when it doesnt deserve it. This isnt a crap side any more.

Ian Whitchurch

I am so amazed how you are so positive, when we saw our bowlers' ineffectiveness in our own ground!! But I admire your support for our team. I understand the bowling improved, but just can't accept we lost 20 wkts when opposition lost only 3 to 4 wkts. May be it is all batsmen's fault and limitations to play longer version.

cricman
June 15, 2007, 06:19 PM
"I think it would be helpful for our regular bowlers if I could lend my support sometimes, especially in the Test series. But I only take the ball if situation demands, otherwise not," added Ashraful, who got his predecessor Habibul Bashar stumped.

I would of loved to seen Both of there expressions

WarWolf
June 25, 2007, 07:40 PM
Ash bowled well in the first day. Specially a few good odd ones. I just had a feeling that he didn't do enough experiment which is needed to take wickets.

One World
June 25, 2007, 09:02 PM
Rubbish. The first-string Tigers bowling attack of Shahadat,Masrafee, Rafique, Hasan as the all rounder and one of Rasel or Rassak or Enamul depending on conditions is more than adequate to take 20 wickets ... if they bowl well and the fielders do their part.

Dont bag the team when it doesnt deserve it. This isnt a crap side any more.

Ian Whitchurch


Its always nice to hear sweet stuffs. Thanks man.