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cricket_pagol
June 24, 2007, 10:00 AM
I think Mushfiq is very unfortnate to not get a chance in the first test.

Rajowana
June 24, 2007, 10:04 AM
u mean final 11

cricket_pagol
June 24, 2007, 10:09 AM
u mean final 11No, I mean final 12.

SInce, JO is sick, mushfiq should have been his cover. They went with mehrab because he is the back up opener in the squad.

In the long run this will not affect mushy too much, but we will have to go through couple of days of test cricket without our best combination in the field.

Tokyobreeze
June 24, 2007, 10:14 AM
Very Bad decision. Mushfiq deserved a place in terms of performance. Not expected as the current team is considered to have a different mindset.

I wonder if Akram contributed something to the decision?! He was very vocal about KMs exclusion from WC squad.

Kabir
June 24, 2007, 10:56 AM
Think about it this way, Mushfiq cannot replace JO. Coz he's not an opener. He could replace Sakib even (if Sakib was sick), coz that's the spot where he can play.

I hope you saw Imtiaz bhai's comment in another thread. We, sitting in our living room, cannot say what's happening behind the scenes. We can only hope for something, but the actual decisions are made with millions of things that play a direct role in team selection.

amra_korbo_joy
June 24, 2007, 11:10 AM
I like to see him as batsman instead of Sakib

akabir77
June 24, 2007, 11:13 AM
I like to see him as batsman instead of Sakib

agree.

Rifat_02
June 24, 2007, 11:33 AM
Foolish decision to leave him out. It will cost us dearly later, Mashud has been very poor with the bat. Almost useless.

damalChele
June 24, 2007, 11:36 AM
I little bit pissed. I would have liked to see him as a batsman not as a wicketkeeper. I think pilot is slightly better in that department but his batting is below par copare to Mushi.

Pundit
June 24, 2007, 11:42 AM
Foolish decision to leave him out. It will cost us dearly later, Mashud has been very poor with the bat. Almost useless.

It will cost us dearly? So, I am guessing that we will be losing by and innings, and the margin will be Mushfiq's additional runs that could have been?

Or is it that he will have caught a crucial catch, whereby now...that batsman is expected to score 100 additional runs?

I want to see Mushfiq play as much as any of you. But this decision will not impact his carrer, or our test history. And besides, you come from a patriarch-ial society. Once KM fails this time, the Selectors will have enough ammo to bamboo him.

..but if he doesn't fail, I am sure you will want the best then.

Murad
June 24, 2007, 11:44 AM
I like to see him as batsman instead of Sakib

Sakib can bowl few overs.. and can hive the regular bowlers some break... Mushfique can't

oracle
June 24, 2007, 11:53 AM
Mushfique rested is palatable. Now doing the same with Sakib is definetely not on.

Sillypoint
June 24, 2007, 11:53 AM
We can only hope for something, but the actual decisions are made with millions of things that play a direct role in team selection.

I will accept if the million things are logical....but if it is based on:

1. let's give Pilot a chance because he is pissed off for not including him in the WC squad, or
2. we promised him to give him a chance so that he can try prove himself once again or
3. he is my buddy (we played so many years together) and I can not exclude him from the playing eleven (i will lose his friendship)

then it is unacceptable and it pisses me off.

***hooray it is my 100th post....in triple figures now****

Rumz_01
June 24, 2007, 12:02 PM
Mushi shud have been included...very bad and unfortunate decision..!!!

sheikh
June 24, 2007, 12:03 PM
I like to see him as batsman instead of Sakib

So, you want to give a player 1-2 tests to play & perform and drop him after that !!? Too early for me.

cricket_pagol
June 24, 2007, 12:05 PM
Think about it this way, Mushfiq cannot replace JO. Coz he's not an opener. He could replace Sakib even (if Sakib was sick), coz that's the spot where he can play.

I hope you saw Imtiaz bhai's comment in another thread. We, sitting in our living room, cannot say what's happening behind the scenes. We can only hope for something, but the actual decisions are made with millions of things that play a direct role in team selection.

You have good points. But, my point is that Mushfiq's keeping is not unknown quantity for us... so we know he will do a fairly good job behind the stump (he kept the wicket 3.5hrs at a stretch and he looked as energetic as he can be!!! I think he is capable of doing 6 hours of wicket keeping with the breaks in between... I don't think his fitness is a problem). In terms of wicket keeping skills is not as good as pilot, but pilot's keeping is not at his peak anymore. He was not that impressive against India. So behind the scene nothing much is happening, Except Khaled masud's support from older players and selectors.

Mushy played as a batsmen in his first england and scored a fifty. He looked so solid in that innings but unfortunately he got injured. So playing Mushy as a batsmen is not a new concept... He played under much more difficult conditions and proved his batting skills.

I would not have complained so much if Mushy was selected as cover for JO. That would have given an indication that mushy is a good enough batsmen but there is no opening in the team. It seems Mushy is only allowed to compete with KM for the wicket keeping position.

Electrequiem
June 24, 2007, 12:23 PM
To quote myself from another forum:

Need: Mushy
Require: Mushy
Prefer: Mushy

Will get: Mashud.

:D

tigerpain
June 24, 2007, 12:57 PM
Khaled Masud... no longer a vital asset to BD Cricket..sorry to say ! Now a days as a wicketkeeper your job dosen't limit to that position anymore. Its call "total cricket"
So kiss good to bye to cricket Khaled ...appreciated your former effort.L-)

Trigger_Tiger
June 24, 2007, 01:08 PM
I think Mushfiq is very unfortnate to not get a chance in the first test.

cricket_pagol, I am even more pissed at you for opening this thread and adding more fuel to my fire of misery :mad:!!!!!

Sovik
June 24, 2007, 01:17 PM
i am not pissed at all. that wasn't unexpected. pilot was included as wicket keeper and thats why mushfiq was left out. and our selectors don't see mushfiq as a specialist batsman

Reaz
June 24, 2007, 01:24 PM
I knew that,

Extract from my previous thread:
" Pilot is no longer that exceptional behind the wicket that he has to play while Mushfiq might get a chance as specialist Batsman or even might not get a chance to play! Make Mushfiq wicket keeper, get Pilot out and have the luxury of adding another specialist Batsman in the team. Plain and Simple.
But the irony is that this is not going to happen. Otherwise, considering last couple of moths stats there were no good reasons for Pilot's inclusion in the team for this tour".

Is Farooq trying to please a corner at the cost of our Cricket? (I am saying that on the basis of the criticisms from a corner, faced by the selectors after discarding Pilot from the World Cup). If so then he is playing an Expensive game.
Inexplicable! Ridiculous, Pathetic decision!

rubel_18
June 24, 2007, 02:37 PM
Well I am pissed off but then again not really that badly cos this is Pilot's last chance to show sumthing and they hav to justify their decision to pick him in the squad. So it is Do or Die for him which is why if he plays crap you know wat change there will be in the next Test and I hope he plays crap so he is off da squad, he is just so useless at batting.

cricket_dorshok
June 24, 2007, 02:51 PM
relax floks! no way Mushfiq should be replaced Sakib. Let Pilot play his last match in national team. after first test Pilot will have to say good bye to national team and Mushfiq will be automatic choice.

Sovik
June 24, 2007, 03:13 PM
pilot will be playing for the spot and will do well. and i wish him well. hope he will deliver

shamster
June 24, 2007, 03:15 PM
I think Mushfiq is here as Batsman as well as a Wicket Keeper. Hope Pilot does deliver a gritty innings is what we need from him, well 2 gritty innings would be nice. he fails in the 4 innings (first 2 tests) I think he can say good bye to his test career. Mushfiq awaits !!

Sadz
June 24, 2007, 03:31 PM
that was very very poor decision making from the selectors. First of all KM batted long long innings against india and ended up with single figures and same happened in the practice game. He may be good as a wicket keeper but not good enough in batting. mushy is good for both but obviously for batting. I understand the experience idea but some1 might be so good but never ever played because he was new to the teamor some1 who played every1 single game but plays poor;y. I would go for the first some1, 100 percent sure.:flag:

bulbul_fan
June 24, 2007, 04:15 PM
pathetic decision to include masud..he is horrible...
i dont undrstnd wht our slctrs r doing??

al Furqaan
June 24, 2007, 05:11 PM
i knew these worthless nostalgic selectors could possible spell our doom...those self proclaimed know it alls couldn't play back in their day, and are keeping out young cats that can.

utter BS, i haven't been this upset in a loooong time. my BP has gone up considerably...

:head::head::head:

first time using this icon...

Sohel
June 24, 2007, 05:14 PM
VPO-ed ... typical move from faruikka and co.

cricket_pagol
June 24, 2007, 06:09 PM
i am not pissed at all. that wasn't unexpected. pilot was included as wicket keeper and thats why mushfiq was left out. and our selectors don't see mushfiq as a specialist batsman

I think the management gave out confusing signals when they played Mushfiq in the practice match. They must have considered him as batsmen because he was not the keeper according to the TIgercricket scorecard (cricinfo scorecard showed Mushy as keeper). Mushfiq batted pretty well for his 31 with the tail... it's not like he never played a test match as a batsmen... Mushfiq is a player who can play in position.

On the contrary, if mushfiq played the practice match as a keeper, there is no reason to exclude him unless his keeping was horrible. I don't think this is the case.

Trigger_Ti, don't be mad at me :)

nzfan
June 24, 2007, 06:18 PM
Do the Bangladesh selectors have an iq under 40? or do they just love to witness the team lose?

Anher
June 24, 2007, 06:22 PM
lets think about it in another way. Why selector included 2 specialist wicketkeeper in 15man squad?. They still didnt lose all faith on pilot and dont feel safe by selecting him either. They also not confident that musfiq is surely safe. I believe they have decided no matter what they will play pilot in first test if he dont deliver will be dropped from test squad for the first time cos of performance.

My question to you what will you do??? do you feel safe including only musfiq as a specialist keeper in 15man squad?

One World
June 24, 2007, 06:22 PM
I think its not IQ. There may be silent politics inside that we never hear of.

IanW
June 24, 2007, 06:27 PM
Nahh, I'm not pissed from that.

It was the five Coronas at the bar earlier.

Ian Whitchurch

WarWolf
June 24, 2007, 07:30 PM
Mushfiq is probably the best batsman of spin in the team and yet he is not there to face Murali. I got just got very much astonished.

mali007
June 24, 2007, 08:47 PM
Mushfique is just replica of Dinesh Kartik. Dinesh can bat in the middle as well as in the
opening position. Being a WK Indian selectors included him as a batsman for his performance, side lining legend batsmen like Yuvoraj Singh and Laksman. But our immature, unprofessional selectors did not learn from knowledgeble Indian counter part !!! We could not drop out of form SN for neputism ( Relative of selectors ) and Sakib. With only two seamers and plenty of spinners SL batsmen will be in bating spree!! I will not be surprised if SL scored 700 plus run !!!!

Tokyobreeze
June 24, 2007, 09:30 PM
Nahh, I'm not pissed from that.

It was the five Coronas at the bar earlier.

Ian Whitchurch

LoL...Good one Ian!

al Furqaan
June 24, 2007, 09:51 PM
Mushfiq is probably the best batsman of spin in the team and yet he is not there to face Murali. I got just got very much astonished.

i thought he was weak against spin, but of course any 17 year old would struggle against murali on turning bangladeshi wickets.

Murad
June 24, 2007, 10:10 PM
Mushfiq is probably the best batsman of spin in the team and yet he is not there to face Murali. I got just got very much astonished.

you are wrong bro.. hes not good against spin.. hes good against pace bowling

and Ashraful is the best batsman of spin bowling in the team not mushfique... or anyone else..

Foozy
June 24, 2007, 10:25 PM
Mushfique is just replica of Dinesh Kartik. Dinesh can bat in the middle as well as in the
opening position. Being a WK Indian selectors included him as a batsman for his performance, side lining legend batsmen like Yuvoraj Singh and Laksman. But our immature, unprofessional selectors did not learn from knowledgeble Indian counter part !!! We could not drop out of form SN for neputism ( Relative of selectors ) and Sakib. With only two seamers and plenty of spinners SL batsmen will be in bating spree!! I will not be surprised if SL scored 700 plus run !!!!







i agree to most of wat u say there bro!!
this is kinda politics wat is goin on ... nothin else... i mean mushi was also teh backbone of the worldcup match against india which we are all dancing about today!!... how could they hav forgotten that? and that was wat brought about another refreshed look of confidence into bd!!... and that match was not one of those which was single handedly won by ash... it should very wel be credited to mushi aswell... he played a SOLID innings that day... very very solid!!!... and he played rite from the start till the very end.. and id say he was so solid that he could hav gone on for a much much longer innings that day if it was a test match... that was test style batting.. and we all should be aware that he is capable of that... hes got that style and persistence with the bat...
it is totally unreasonable to call him off coz hes young... i mean SHEEESH.. hes much much more mature with the bat than alot of our players... and he definately should get khaled mashuds place!!
:timeout: KM oouuutttt... and mushi in.... :D

Protic
June 24, 2007, 10:43 PM
Lets take it this way.. They are giving KM a chance.. i mean he did a lot for us.. So he does deserves a chance..so if he's dropped later..no one can complain..and they want to play Mushy and thats why they took him..rite? So Let KM play this match ..if he performs..he remains and mushy gets a chance for the person (batter) who doesnt performs in the first test..and if KM doesnt perform..Mushy to be the automatic WK/Batsman after him.

PoorFan
June 24, 2007, 10:45 PM
I am pissed because both Javed and Pilot is in final eleven, one of them would have enough IMO.

Kabir
June 24, 2007, 10:47 PM
They are giving KM a chance.. i mean he did a lot for us.. So he does deserves a chance..so if he's dropped later..no one can complain.

I can bet he'll still complain. He's that greedy sort...kinda like the girl whose video I posted in the "Funny YouTube videos" thread. "If you drop me, you'll be the loser, not me. I won't lose anything, but you'll lose a talent like me". As if.

voodoo_dreams
June 24, 2007, 11:01 PM
I real gem, no matter how much dirt you cover it up with, sooner or later is bound to be reckoned with. Mushi’s still young, he’ll have his fair shot at proving himself.

Mav
June 25, 2007, 01:01 AM
This is what u call seniority complex.......sobgula [edit].....
The older generation cant still think positively....the [edit]seniority things comes here, and out of form players like khaled mashud gets in the 11.

Bangali joti otota positive hoto, tahole Bangladesh r ajker bangladesh thakto na.
I Dont attach too much of emotion and time with cricket anymore, cuz i have seen these happening again and again.

So, i am more of an observer than a crazy fan with cricket now.

Baundule
June 25, 2007, 01:35 AM
What is the difference between lau and kodu?

rafiq
June 25, 2007, 02:13 AM
I honestly thought Mushfiq would have had a chance when Mortaza went down with a bad back....Mushfiq is a capable opening bowler...what, he hasn't really bowled for us before?...no worries, he can play a few tests and get experience opening our bowling while mashrafee applies ice and cools off.....

WarWolf
June 25, 2007, 02:16 AM
What is the difference between lau and kodu?
Duitai khete kharap.

Baundule
June 25, 2007, 02:58 AM
I honestly thought Mushfiq would have had a chance when Mortaza went down with a bad back....Mushfiq is a capable opening bowler...what, he hasn't really bowled for us before?...no worries, he can play a few tests and get experience opening our bowling while mashrafee applies ice and cools off.....

ha ha ha! great comment!:-D

Baundule
June 25, 2007, 02:59 AM
Duitai khete kharap.

WW, aj je poristhiti, tate lau-kodu duitai poche gese :)

cricket_pagol
June 25, 2007, 03:19 AM
It seems that the commentator are making Pilot the HERO in the first innings!!! Anyways, i am happy that pilot is playing better than expected :)

akabir77
June 25, 2007, 09:43 AM
we need to find a better batsman and a better keeper than pilot as soon as possible.

WarWolf
June 25, 2007, 07:10 PM
The way first inning goes clearly showed that we need Rahim as a batsman in the team. He is the best player of spin in the team. With him we have some hope to keep one side intact against Murali.

One World
June 25, 2007, 09:05 PM
A batsman is not enough. I would fly in Aftab, Rakibul and Tushar for next two tests.

BD Tigers
June 25, 2007, 11:24 PM
Pilot played pretty good yesterday. He is one of the batsmen who cud actually play Murali, ofcourse there are some occassional cluelessness but who didnt do that against Murali. And as for his keeping, he did pretty good.

I think Mushi shud get in the team but as a batsman and in Sakib's place. Sakib has no clue against Murali and since he is a middle order, he is bound to face Murali.