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m.islam
June 26, 2007, 06:41 PM
In The Daily Star, Vass said, "Bangladesh players should put their heads down. You can't throw your wicket at this level. They should concentrate more at this level otherwise this kind of show will happen time and again." I think what he said is perfectly justified. We have heard enough comments like they will get better with time, they are fairly new in test cricket etc. etc. I think they have been pampered too much and need some tough love. The link to the article is given below:

http://thedailystar.net/2007/06/27/d70627040130.htm

One World
June 26, 2007, 09:10 PM
Vaas: I think they have been pampered too much.

I disagree on that. I think they do not practice right.

oracle
June 26, 2007, 09:25 PM
One day I hope his team gets thoriughly humiliated. This was how the West Indians talked about English players in the 70's. Just wait Vaas.:wave:

Electrequiem
June 26, 2007, 09:36 PM
"Fate is not without a sense of irony."

Soon enough, BD players would be consoling SL players after their horrible horrible performance on a test match. The question is, HOW SOON?

al Furqaan
June 26, 2007, 09:43 PM
One day I hope his team gets thoriughly humiliated. This was how the West Indians talked about English players in the 70's. Just wait Vaas.:wave:

oracle bhai, i can't agree with you...

i agree with vaas all the way. there is nothing wrong with what he said...if he were, indian i am sure he would have made a snide comment, but after how we played there is nothing to warrant anything other than this.

i hope our boys learn from the comment.

we ARE not as bad as we played in the first half.

Haider
June 26, 2007, 09:44 PM
Man... Our players need a good Discipline Coach. We need to play as a team. We have to understand, if one of our player is having a bad day, the 10 has to work 125% to fill his position. And its normal for every team to have atlist one or two players not clicking . That don't stop the entire team from succeding. Like for instance check out Sri Lanka's score-card. Warnapura went out for a duck, and right after him Sangakkara went out for 6. They even lost Silva for 1 run. Those are 3 top order batsmen. However, Sri Lanka still manages to put over 580 on the board becuase some of them failed butthe others put 125% more to fill in the gap. Thats why they are so successful. Unlike them,. Bangladeshis give up their wickets like dominos effect. When one player struggles, the rest gives up. Claiming a lost right from the begining. They never try hard. Thats not team work. I hope i am making some sense. I hope our players change their way of approaching the game. They need to be more positive minded, and not let a bad decision by umpire or a bad form of one player bring down the whole team. Fight till the very end. Something I only see in Mortaza so far.
By the way I think Vaas is right with his comment. I agree with him. I bet he is frustrated becuz he is stuck in a position to play under the heat for bout a month with a team that don't even know how to play cricket. And he saying what he is saying becuz he wants to face a more tougher opponet not no sissy girly team. I hope our players read his comments and straighten up and play like a man and everyone should give 110% if not 125%

WarWolf
June 26, 2007, 10:05 PM
I see nothing wrong with the comment.

capslock
June 26, 2007, 10:44 PM
Actually, we need to hear more of these kinds of comments, it will hopefully spur our players to do something since the usual saccharine "Bangladesh are talented, they're turning the corner soon' stuff from other teams doesn't do anything.

At least if it's coming from Sri Lanka there's no malice behind it, I think they're genuine well wishers of our cricket team.

Edit: Now that I reread the article, it seems to me that Vaas is implying 'head down' in the sense of 'get to work', not the 'in shame' sense.

Mahir
June 26, 2007, 11:22 PM
Vaas is doing nothing but wishing us well here. Yes, I too would love to see our players comment in a similar manner about other teams in the future, but Vaas' concern about our nonsense showing in the first innings is very reasonnable, and quite appreciable.

To ICC : Please_Give_Us_More_Tests_To_Play. We dont need long useless breaks from the Test arena. Improvement will be evident rather slowly in that case.


if he were, indian i am sure he would have made a snide comment [...]

Why's it so necessary to classify such a person as "Indian" ? Thats an outright personal attack to any Indian out there. A snide comment can come from any impolite individual, be it Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lankan or Bangladeshi.

PoorFan
June 27, 2007, 12:36 AM
"Bangladesh players should put their heads down. You can't throw your wicket at this level. They should concentrate more at this level otherwise this kind of show will happen time and again. But I still believe Bangladesh are an improving side and are in a learning process," Vaas said.
<!--StartFragment -->Not a single word of his comment is wrong IMO. It depends on how we take, for example ...

one can take his word 'put their heads down' as ...

1. Focused, concentrated, determined to do the job.
2. Showing deserved respect to opponents.
3. Feel guilty, ashamed for doing wrong.
4. Don't deserve to be there.

etc.

ononto
June 27, 2007, 02:18 AM
One day I hope his team gets thoriughly humiliated. This was how the West Indians talked about English players in the 70's. Just wait Vaas.:wave:

well said guru...

Foozy
June 27, 2007, 02:22 AM
One day I hope his team gets thoriughly humiliated. This was how the West Indians talked about English players in the 70's. Just wait Vaas.:wave:

... modon kotakar!!!... eider buddhi shuddi jai kokhon hobai... uff...

BangladeshFan
June 27, 2007, 02:33 AM
a srilanka bowler who just scored a batting century(what was his previous best score?) is now telling Bd's so called batsman that they need to show more application. If this doesnt spur them on what will :-/

jabbar
June 27, 2007, 03:36 AM
I think Vaas was not being arrogant by saying this. As an experienced member of a champion team, he merely said aloud what everyone, including BD players themselves, are thinking...

Antora
June 27, 2007, 03:38 AM
omg... just becouse he scores a century doesnt mean he's king of cricket!!! he owez an appology to us!!! how dare he say that?

Imtiazk
June 27, 2007, 03:40 AM
Vaas's comment was absolutely correct. Of course, it would not be welcomed by many in BC as that means some test matches might last more than 3 days. Some in BC would like test matches to finish in one day. Anyone who plays with their heads down is considered "boring".

real123
June 27, 2007, 03:43 AM
Well-said, I also agree. What he said is fact and our players should learn form this. They did not learn when Gillipsie made a double hundred in CHT.



oracle bhai, i can't agree with you...

i agree with vaas all the way. there is nothing wrong with what he said...if he were, indian i am sure he would have made a snide comment, but after how we played there is nothing to warrant anything other than this.

i hope our boys learn from the comment.

we ARE not as bad as we played in the first half.

Imtiazk
June 27, 2007, 03:45 AM
Today, the attitude was much better. Each player in their own way played resolutely. It is not a question of playing slowly or attacking. It means that within your limitations you play each ball according to its merit and don't get carried away. Nafees was more attacking but I think that was part of a plan to unsettle Murali. It worked to an extent but, of course, Murali had the last laugh. By the way, the ball he got out to was very hittable. Neither batsmen can really be blamed for their dismissals.

Imtiazk
June 27, 2007, 03:47 AM
Bashar did have a poke outside the off stump. Vaas wins for perseverience !

Imtiazk
June 27, 2007, 03:49 AM
I don't want to put the mockers on, but Rajin has impressed me. He has been quite uncomfortable at times and even looked lost but he has hung on. That's the attitude we did. Make sure you stay, runs will come..

shadman
June 27, 2007, 05:03 AM
omg... just becouse he scores a century doesnt mean he's king of cricket!!! he owez an appology to us!!! how dare he say that?

I found nothing wrong with his comment. Ar karap korle kotha suntey hoi. Basar ka apne haba bolsen kintu o porer test a 100 korle tokhon abar onno kotha bolben. Amone hoi sob somoy.

shaad
June 27, 2007, 06:28 AM
Look, I think all Vaas meant was that Bangladeshi batsmen should focus on batting sensibly at the Test level and not give up their wickets cheaply. In context, read grammatically, that's what "putting [one's] head down" means. It's good advice and nothing he should apologize for. Some of you are, in my opinion, mistakenly reading what is constructive criticism as a snide comment.

Surfer
June 27, 2007, 07:19 AM
omg... just becouse he scores a century doesnt mean he's king of cricket!!! he owez an appology to us!!! how dare he say that?

What exacltly shold he apologize for? What in that statement offends you or for that matter any Banglaeshi fan?

Rifat
June 27, 2007, 07:48 AM
omg... just becouse he scores a century doesnt mean he's king of cricket!!! he owez an appology to us!!! how dare he say that?

bad bad comment by antora, vaas sympathizes for us and he wants to see bangladesh improve, anything wrong with that?

Alien
June 27, 2007, 07:51 AM
One day I hope his team gets thoriughly humiliated. This was how the West Indians talked about English players in the 70's. Just wait Vaas.:wave:

I guess what Vaas is saying is not out of mockery but out of the interest of Bangladesh Cricket. Before he said it, we have all be saying and thinking along the same line.

Sri Lanka can put a thorough humiliation on a "bad day" at field. We can put it on our destiny.

Morpheous
June 27, 2007, 07:52 AM
I see nothing wrong with the comment.


I totally agree....Vaas said it exactly right. End of third day Ashraful just thrown his wicket away.

Alien
June 27, 2007, 07:58 AM
Some of us are rather allergic to criticism. As a team that looses more game than any, we should well get used to it. When we win a match, everyone praises us, even the worst of critics.

But when you put up a performance which BD did on day 1 and 2, you should accept criticism in the same manner.

Ehsan
June 27, 2007, 07:58 AM
Thanks for the tip Vaas, the boys are learning. ;)

Miraz
June 27, 2007, 08:02 AM
Vaas could not have said it in a better way. He is a long campaigner of Test match cricket and he was generous enough to offer some words of guidance for Bangladesh team.

Try to understand his wordings, nothing is wrong in it and I applaud Vaas for a timely reminder.

Tiger Bhai
June 27, 2007, 08:14 AM
Thank you Vaas ...and oh 'tell your captan not to complain next time about our Sharapova!

http://www.thedailystar.net/2007/06/26/d70626040233.htm

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orzoon
June 27, 2007, 01:08 PM
One day I hope his team gets thoriughly humiliated. This was how the West Indians talked about English players in the 70's. Just wait Vaas.:wave:

One Day you also HOPE your team thoriughly humiliate New Zealand(cause MARTIN cROWE made those insulting remarks),Windies(cause Holding made those ___ remarks,Aus(cause _ _ ___ _ _ ponting ridiculed),Pakistan(cause latif chea_ed),India (BCCI don't want to give anything other than lUNCH ),SL(cause Vaas ....),England (cause the Queen didn't know that BD also play Cricket),Saffies(cause they want to boost their Records).So, that is almost all Test playing countries that has to be TRORIUGHLY humialiated.something wrong out there !!!

Just wait EVERY BODY .:wave:

Ahsan
June 27, 2007, 02:08 PM
omg... just becouse he scores a century doesnt mean he's king of cricket!!! he owez an appology to us!!! how dare he say that?

ammujaan Vaas mama kisher jonno jeno appology korbay? He's the only active player with guts to say the absolute fact about our test batsmen.

NoboBarta
June 27, 2007, 03:41 PM
Bangladesh players should put their heads down. You can't throw your wicket at this level. They should concentrate more at this level otherwise this kind of show will happen time and again.

If we agree with the fact that SL supports BD then we should take this as a constructive criticism. It will only help our young and less experienced cricketers (2nd innings result shows that, assuming they took Vaas' comment seriously). On the contrary, if you take it negatively, you will only loose in the long run.

Rifat
June 27, 2007, 04:19 PM
one more thing, if people are consistently praising bangladesh on how well the team has improved or how "talented" we are, doesn't it make the players feel like they have nothing more to give and they start acting arrogant, so praise vaas for that comment. we do not want an arrogant bangladesh team, we want a never looking back consistent team who plays hard fro pride and honor, that's what vaas meant when he said that we should keep our heads down, because pride and honor is something we lack. when any human lacks those things, the human or the group should look down and settle for improvement.

brishti
June 27, 2007, 04:37 PM
what goes around comes around just wait for your turn to get humiliated.and b'desh players just prove him wrong

Ahg984
June 27, 2007, 04:47 PM
Vaas's comments are, in no way, meant to humiliate Bangladesh. By "put their heads down" he means that the BD players should curb their aggressive, risky shot-making and work on their temperament. That's the impression I get from reading the piece.

I remember how in the Ind_BD series, Ravi Shashtri's "take no prisoners" comment was taken out of context and miscontrued to mean something ridiculous and offensive. Its sort of funny how the some ppl misinterpret these comments, get all riled up and then post garbage themselves.

One World
June 27, 2007, 09:08 PM
Agree with #22 and #36 but still remain intact on my opinion about calling players being pampered (#2).

PoorFan
June 27, 2007, 09:32 PM
One Day you also HOPE your team thoriughly humiliate New Zealand(cause MARTIN cROWE made those insulting remarks),Windies(cause Holding made those ___ remarks,Aus(cause _ _ ___ _ _ ponting ridiculed),Pakistan(cause latif chea_ed),India (BCCI don't want to give anything other than lUNCH ),SL(cause Vaas ....),England (cause the Queen didn't know that BD also play Cricket),Saffies(cause they want to boost their Records).So, that is almost all Test playing countries that has to be TRORIUGHLY humialiated.something wrong out there !!!

Just wait EVERY BODY .:wave:
Well said.:(

al Furqaan
June 27, 2007, 09:40 PM
i dont think its that bad that vaas scored a 100...he is a very handy lower order fellow, and the wicket was a beauty...

i am more upset with 566-6 dec and 89 all out

OZGOD
June 28, 2007, 12:26 AM
In The Daily Star, Vass said, "Bangladesh players should put their heads down. You can't throw your wicket at this level. They should concentrate more at this level otherwise this kind of show will happen time and again." I think what he said is perfectly justified. We have heard enough comments like they will get better with time, they are fairly new in test cricket etc. etc. I think they have been pampered too much and need some tough love. The link to the article is given below:

http://thedailystar.net/2007/06/27/d70627040130.htm

Totally agree with Vaas. At this level it's unacceptable to give your wicket away this easy.

cricket_king
June 28, 2007, 12:37 AM
Well vaas was right.

cricket_king
June 28, 2007, 12:39 AM
One Day you also HOPE your team thoriughly humiliate New Zealand(cause MARTIN cROWE made those insulting remarks),Windies(cause Holding made those ___ remarks,Aus(cause _ _ ___ _ _ ponting ridiculed),Pakistan(cause latif chea_ed),India (BCCI don't want to give anything other than lUNCH ),SL(cause Vaas ....),England (cause the Queen didn't know that BD also play Cricket),Saffies(cause they want to boost their Records).So, that is almost all Test playing countries that has to be TRORIUGHLY humialiated.something wrong out there !!!

Just wait EVERY BODY .:wave:

What did Holding say? He seemed to like the bangladeshi team :confused:

CHABAN
June 28, 2007, 02:04 AM
Thats a 'racist' comment, nothing less. This is very disappointing to say the least.




i agree with vaas all the way. there is nothing wrong with what he said...if he were, indian i am sure he would have made a snide comment.

Alien
June 29, 2007, 08:34 AM
England (cause the Queen didn't know that BD also play Cricket)

Who cares about that retarded old Queen....She forgetfulness is embarassing to lot of people.
She even forgot that Australia celebrates her birthday and it's a public holiday (or didn't know). Let her read Rushdie's novel in her cosy Windsor castle. Cricket and real world is out of her league.

Sorry bit off topic.

Ak
June 30, 2007, 12:06 PM
Lol some ppl need to understand the comment before typing hard on their keyboards. What he said was perfectly fine not as if he was saying that they should hang their heads in shame.:smug: