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bulbul_fan
July 2, 2007, 06:30 AM
guys..gr8 news...
masud is out of 2nd test!!!!


link:http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/slvbdesh/content/current/story/300351.html

Shafin
July 2, 2007, 06:40 AM
:great:

Sohel
July 2, 2007, 06:45 AM
MODS, you may wish to merge this with the other thread titled "Changes to the 2nd Test Line-up."

al Furqaan
July 2, 2007, 09:45 AM
MODS, you may wish to merge this with the other thread titled "Changes to the 2nd Test Line-up."

i dont think it should as this is real news, as oppossed to that thread of 100+ speculations and "should be this ways"...

good moves i guess...at least the selectors react when kicked...i woulda kept sakib and benched bashar, tho.

Omio
July 2, 2007, 10:06 AM
Not a great news,
Mashud is 10 time better than Mushfique,
Did u see the way he was out during WC,
He also played 1 test aganist SL,
His performance was poor on that test.

Baundule
July 2, 2007, 10:14 AM
Now, there will be player to player comparison and every player has something to say in his favour. ;)

The fact is, the dropped players did not do anything worse than the survived ones and if you want to change your squad after a single match, then dont ask the players to play at all.

The selection once again shows that our selectors go only by the whims. They are somehow trying to hide the horrible failure in the first match. I wish all the good luck to the team; but this is not the way it should be!

ialbd
July 2, 2007, 10:43 AM
well ofcourse we'll miss some of pilot's features, then again we'll have the new mushfiq ones. Everyone saw this coming.......

Murad
July 2, 2007, 10:43 AM
i think its good squad.. i wanted to give sakib another chance.. he doesnt look like a test batsmen though...

Mehrab is a good middle order batsman who occationaly opens the innings.. but donno why selectors picked him as a opener.. He performs better as a middle order batsman.. i think he will do fine.. as he did good in the last series with A/Academy team last month. He's been playing 4-day matches a lot against Srilanka, England and Pak Academy.. so he would be better than Sakib.. Hope he delivers good..

Sharif is not that bad bowler.. He couldnt do good in India test that doesn't mean hes gonna do bad in this test.

Mushfique is a good middle order batsman but i doubt his wicket-keeping ability.. Hope he does good..

Shaan
July 2, 2007, 10:48 AM
great to see Mushfique is included a genuine batsman deserves the place at the current squad..
Sakib is dropped too.. good to have Mehrab jr. for the tests match, at this moment we need this type of test batsman..

Kabir
July 2, 2007, 10:49 AM
Our latest tour bulletin.

Bangladesh opt for stronger batting order in second Test

2 July, 2007
The heavy innings defeat suffered by Bangladesh in the first Test in Combo has triggered three changes in the side for the upcoming second Test in P Saravanamuttu Stadium in Colombo. Mushfiqur Rahim, Mohammad Sharif, and Mehrab Hossain Jr. are set to replace Khaled Mashud, Abdur Razzak, and Sakib Al Hasan.
Mushfiqur Rahim is set to take over as the keeper, who is also expected to make the batting order stronger.

http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/../html/images/read_art.gif Read the rest of the bulletin » (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/../tours/2007/INT/BD_IN_SL/tour.php)

Nafis_BD
July 2, 2007, 10:52 AM
Wow great news. Bhalo hoise shokal shokal ami ei thread ta dekhlam!!:)

Dhakablues
July 2, 2007, 12:17 PM
With my fan hats on,,,I think its good to see the comparison of the players. I mean, its not that we can expect anything from these test series anyways as we are bound to lose bad even if we fielded 15 players against Lankan 11. I would like to see how Mushfiq performs against 3 seamers. It will definitly give the critiques an answer whether he is or not the ritght one for Test or are we just screaming out the paper-fed buzz words on forums without any depth of knowledge. I would also loveto see Mehrab jr. in the squad as he might be the right #4/5.

With my cricket knowledge has on,,, I think it was premature to change anything as we didnt give the players enough time to apply their lessons learnt from the 1st test. Dropping Khaled Mashud again and again is only putting an undue pressure on him Raj didnt get enough games to be dropped but Sharif gets his 2nd chance to prove his experience. Sakib was only the right one to be dropped as he was promoted to Test earlier than Mehrab. Mehrab played pretty well in 4 day matches recently. But we are still missing the ability of Tusher. The selectors now should learn a lessson not to drop a player of his quality for longerversion matches.

All in all,, we want Bangldesh to show a better side of ther ability than what they have shown on the first Test. Trying to minimize the innings defeat by gettig an extra batsman ( Mushfiq is only a batsman not a wicketkeeper) makes you wonder,, why not go for 11 batsman ? We can try to silence the rooster but the sun will rise... The fact that we still need Mashrafee/Rafique/Ashrful/Bashar to shine is still the ask then changing the squad to include few new faces. NONE of the the new faces are the match determinants.

Sadz
July 2, 2007, 12:17 PM
Go Mushy

Rajowana
July 2, 2007, 12:23 PM
whohoo great news!!!!!!
I was waiting for this day!!!!!!!
Go mushi!!!!!

rah
July 2, 2007, 12:32 PM
GO MUSHI GO MUSHI GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
nah though now he has got his chance he is gonna have to shine cos i fink one good testmatch from him, no1 will eva question his side ionn da team for a while

One World
July 2, 2007, 12:34 PM
very strong batting order with poor performance record in recent tests. Now we have four specialist batsmen to tackle new ball bowlers.

rubel_18
July 2, 2007, 12:36 PM
Well I am really happy that Mushi has been picked, it was enivitable the way Pilot played in the last test match and the test matches againt India, poor batting.

betaar
July 2, 2007, 12:49 PM
The great news of Mushi's inclusion is offset by the disasterous news of Sakib's exclusion. Sakib could've been a great back bone for the team provided he was given more opprtunity to ground his feet in the longer version of the game.

rubel_18
July 2, 2007, 01:02 PM
The great news of Mushi's inclusion is offset by the disasterous news of Sakib's exclusion. Sakib could've been a great back bone for the team provided he was given more opprtunity to ground his feet in the longer version of the game.

I was really annoyed wen I heard that as well, y wud u do that just cos he played not very well in the last test match they take him out but that was only his 3rd Test match i think. They shud hav took out Bashar instead cos he never played that great in the last match either and he has got more experince den Sakib therefore he shud hav performed better which is y Bashar shud be out of da team. Im so annoyed ar these selectors once again, well Bashar better play gud in this test match in order to make me take my words back cos I hope does.

MarufH
July 2, 2007, 01:05 PM
Not a great news,
Mashud is 10 time better than Mushfique,
Did u see the way he was out during WC,
He also played 1 test aganist SL,
His performance was poor on that test.


hahaha....:-D

sadi
July 2, 2007, 01:11 PM
Mehrab should've had his debut before Sakib. He is more of a longer version player and as much as Sakib impressed everyone including me in the odis, he hasn't proved his worth in the longer version in the domestic cricket. He had only about 10-15 games under his belt and wasn't quite ready yet. Sakib is a fighter and I am sure, he will work on his game and come back strongly. Mehrab deserves his chance though. He has played many four day games for the A team and visited Srilanka recently. About Mushfiq's inclusion, I couldn't be happier. It is time for him to shine. His performance will officially end Pilot's career I hope. About Sharif's inclusion in place of Razzak, all I can say is he wouldn't go much worse than Razzak in the bowling end but may end up contributing some runs. Razzak deserved another game. It is becoming our selector's bad habit to throw out someone only after a test match. If someone is given a chance, they are good enough to play two test matches in a row.

bharat
July 2, 2007, 01:22 PM
guys..gr8 news...
masud is out of 2nd test!!!!


link:http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/slvbdesh/content/current/story/300351.html

Dont get me wrong ..but I have a feeling that the fans in Bdcricket tend to think that doing away with the old will surely pave way to good times.This is not necessarily true ...

Following this forum ..I have heard clamour to remove Alok,Bashar ..then Pilot .

It was not long ago that there was a thread running that Pilot was the best WK in Asia ...has Pilot lost his touch completely in a year or so ..or is Mushfig done wonders that you have to remove Pilot ....

Grass is always greener on the other side ....

Tigers_eye
July 2, 2007, 01:29 PM
Sakib has to prove??? Here, this as blalant of a proof I will give.

Bashar's this year averaged 18.72 per innings. Where as Sakib has 40.72.

More proof?? Ok, no problem:
Bashar had 2 50's. One against zim 78 where Sakib had 68, and against canada 57 where Sakib had 134 not out, lol.

He not only surpassed bashar's 2 fifty but also has 3 fifties to add to those previously mentioned totaling of 4 fifties and a century.

More proof: There are so many that this BC would impose a word count on me from here on if I keep on displaying here.

bashar: (test and ODIs) Out of last 20 innings 10 of them were single digit scores. Ok ek ta bah bah dewa jai na?? only six time he crossed 20. What a 2nd down batsman we are nurturing in our team. Deadwood wouldn't want him to be included in his own list.

Sakib's last 20 innings 6 single digit scores, 12 times he has scored over 20.

Yes!! Selectors failed to recognize current form yet once again. Ash is repaying bashar and in same instance trying to block out one the future contenders of his job.

Shojon priti.

Kabir
July 2, 2007, 01:36 PM
Mijan bhai, eto raigen na. Control control...naile sick hoye jaben to :)

Tigers_eye
July 2, 2007, 02:03 PM
Mijan bhai, eto raigen na. Control control...naile sick hoye jaben to :)
Last 20 international innings:

Innings (runs)
Spread - Bashar - Sakib

0-5 ------- 9 -------- 4
6-20 ----- 5 -------- 5
21-40 ---- 4 -------- 6
41-99 ---- 2 -------- 4
100+ ----- 0 -------- 1

Aro proof lagbey?

Test innings this year for bashar 0, 37, 4, 5, 2, 17. Averaging 10.8. Lower than 7th down Khaled Mashud. Ar ki kisu bolar asey? Buira hoiye gasey; Bujlam o nijey admit kortey parchey na, tai boley fans, selectors rao onddho hoiye jabey? There is no logic of replacing a player when another player averaging half and stays in the team.

cricket_pagol
July 2, 2007, 02:05 PM
happy for mushy, but sad for sakib. I think sakib will come back strongly. Mehrab definitely deserved his chances... bashar living off his seniority

FaridpurChicago
July 2, 2007, 02:06 PM
I'm a big fan of Sakib but lately his test performance is not up to his own standard. Probably he needs a break and this will work positively for him. Bashar's days are numbered now and sakib will replace the fading Bashar.

Pilot should have been replaced by Mushy long before. Anyway, the acid test on Pilot will help us removing confusion. Mushy will score more than 1 at least.

I'm confused on Sharif and Rasel issue. I'm not sure what would be better.

sonarbangla
July 2, 2007, 02:08 PM
nice.. i think sakib should give a rest though. i think mehrab should be on the team instead of sakib

al Furqaan
July 2, 2007, 02:31 PM
mijan bhai's numbers were unnecessary...sakib should have a few more matches to get his feet in.

but otherwise its a good squad. eventually, i would like to see bashar, pilot and JO gone and mehrab, sakib, mushy take their places along with aftab.

AsifTheManRahman
July 2, 2007, 02:34 PM
Good stuff...now go out there and prove your worth, Mushy!

Sakib should definitely be allowed to stick around for a bit. He does look totally out of sorts in tests, but I would love to see him get more chances every now and then.

However, I am not at all happy about Sharif's inclusion. He is by no means worthy of playing international cricket. Then again, Rasel is only proven with the new ball, which I guess gives Sharif a slight edge in test matches although he is no genius with the old ball either (all that talk about his ability to reverse swing the old ball is crap). It is really frustrating that our fast bowling stocks beyond the obvious three are so mediocre.

Dhakablues
July 2, 2007, 02:54 PM
Dont get me wrong ..but I have a feeling that the fans in Bdcricket tend to think that doing away with the old will surely pave way to good times.This is not necessarily true ...

Following this forum ..I have heard clamour to remove Alok,Bashar ..then Pilot .

It was not long ago that there was a thread running that Pilot was the best WK in Asia ...has Pilot lost his touch completely in a year or so ..or is Mushfig done wonders that you have to remove Pilot ....

Grass is always greener on the other side ....

It goes without saying that its not only the players who needs to learn the patience that is demnaded by Test cricket,, the fans as well need that termperment to understand the differences. We are still confusing ODIs with test cricket and thinking that an extra batsman can score some runs by a young player as we are bored of hearing how good Khaled Mashud is behind the wickets. We need the excitedment, the hormone rush to excite us,,,Well that works,, if the strategy was to minimize the innings defeat by some youthful display of strokes,, and Bangladesh team is currently thinking of saving grace than playing real test cricket...unfortunately.

AsifTheManRahman
July 2, 2007, 03:09 PM
Dont get me wrong ..but I have a feeling that the fans in Bdcricket tend to think that doing away with the old will surely pave way to good times.This is not necessarily true ...

Following this forum ..I have heard clamour to remove Alok,Bashar ..then Pilot .

It was not long ago that there was a thread running that Pilot was the best WK in Asia ...has Pilot lost his touch completely in a year or so ..or is Mushfig done wonders that you have to remove Pilot ....

Grass is always greener on the other side ....

Well, Mushfiq deserves a spot in the test side, be it as a keeper or as a pure batsman. As far as his keeping abilities go, when chances behind the wicket are really rare, does a fading Mashud make much of a difference compared to an emerging Mushfiq?

However, I do agree that fans, and more disappointingly, the cricket board have a tendency to discard experienced players from the equation altogether. Players like Alok, Al Shahriar, Ehsanul Haque, et al have been performing in the domestic leagues for years now. Sure, these guys used to play like idiots four years ago, but it does take a fair bit of determination to top the stats year after year, even when you know chances of getting noticed are close to zero. Do keep in mind that they've probably played way more first class games than any in the current national team. When you're playing for at the top level, you need a calming influence, you need someone who will not exhibit rushes of blood but rather evaluate situations and think his way through. Our domestic cricket may not be upto par, but you do learn these things once you've played and performed exceptionally at a stretch of a few years. Not everyone is a Tendulkar, i.e. not everyone has a head on their shoulders that betrays their age. In the longer version, we need more experience and greater maturity.

Now I am by no means asking for the heads of the ones that are currently playing for the national team for ones that caused us so much pain in the past. However, I would like to see more domestic performers make the cut to the A team, independent of their age. It's a game where you want your best eleven to represent you, not merely your best U-23.

Rumz_01
July 2, 2007, 03:23 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHA!!!! FINALLY!!! LMAO
CUMON MUSHI...SHOW EM WHAT UR MADE OF...(ALONG WITH YOUR TEETH!!! (cheese....)

Rumz_01
July 2, 2007, 03:25 PM
whohoo great news!!!!!!
I was waiting for this day!!!!!!!
Go mushi!!!!!

for purely cricketing reasons....rite?? lol

Sadz
July 2, 2007, 03:50 PM
Come on guys Sakib had his chance he blew it he will get another, but at the moment let Mehrab jnr get his deserved chance.

sadi
July 2, 2007, 04:02 PM
As much as I like Sakib, he really didn't look ready for the test matches yet. It doesn't hurt him to go back and get himself prepared before making a comeback. We shouldn't be comparing Bashar and Sakib's stat as they were from odis and we all know test matches are completely different material than odis.

SS
July 2, 2007, 04:15 PM
Doesn't matter whoever we replaces none of them have strong mental level to play solid innings in test unfortunately. 250+ is the max they can score. I start from low so I am hoping they can score 170 in first innings, if they bat.

Sadz
July 2, 2007, 04:30 PM
very optimistic S, although I like your style

Foozy
July 2, 2007, 05:51 PM
GOOOOOOOOO MUSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!
lets all pray that he gets a century or even a half century!!! ill love that!!!...

Antora
July 2, 2007, 07:38 PM
im not sure if this is great news or not....
in da wc i was soo fustrated with mushy becoz of what he did that i wished pilot was there
after the first test I wanted mushy to be wk
now im confused!!!!!!

Protic
July 2, 2007, 09:42 PM
I just hope they dont throw out Mushy if he fails in the 2nd test.. he should play both the tests. And for Mehrab.. okay the kid deserves a chance.. he bowls some leg spinners too..so why not? Sakib can concentrate on ODIs since Tests aint working.

Sohel
July 2, 2007, 10:45 PM
From The Daily Star-

Rahim set to play
Bishwajit Roy from Colombo

There are a few changes on the cards for Bangladesh for the second Test as they are desperately looking to make their batting stronger after a disastrous performance in the first Test which they lost by an innings and 234 runs.

The second Test of the three-match series will start tomorrow at the P Sara Stadium, the only Asian venue where all-time great Australian batsman Don Bradman played a match during his stopover in what was known as Ceylon back in 1948.

Young wicketkeeper Mushfiqur Rahim is likely to replace the long-serving Khaled Mashud as the team think-tank believe that the Bogra stumper has much better technique and temperament than his senior competitor, in a bid to bolster the vulnerable batting line-up of the Tigers.

Veteran Mashud scored an unbeaten 12 in the miserable first innings total of 89 and then was exposed in the second innings when he invited an inswinger between his bat and pad from Lasith Malinga on the fourth morning. That opened the door for Sri Lankan to pick the remaining five wickets within 30 minutes.

Mushfiqur has so far played two Tests, the last of which was against the same opponents at his home ground where he made 2 and 0, as a specialist batsman to score only 24 runs but this time the team management wants to give him the full job as they believe that it is the right time to try the young man in the demanding position. It was learnt that there was a consensus about the change.

The only problem With Rahim is his worth as a 'keeper as he impressed many by his batting in the World Cup in West Indies but his keeping was still not up to the mark.

Bangladesh is also thinking on a third seamer as the P Sara wicket is likely to be in the faster side and in that case Mohammad Sharif will replace left-arm spinner Abdur Razzak while Mehrab Hossain was also in consideration to make his Test debut.

Coach Shaun Williams did not rule out the chance of a few changes but said that they are yet to take the final decision.

"Yes, a couple of changes are not unlikely. We can make a few changes for the sake of the team combination. We need to bat for long periods. We are focusing on the batting," said the young Australian coach.

Although there was much talk about the negative things of the Tigers after the first match's performance, the interim Bangladesh coach said that he hardly has any problem to motivate his side for the second Test match.

"The players are wholly motivated because I am focusing only on the positive things. Our third day batting was what we exactly need to show our improvement. The way the top order batted throughout the third day was encouraging and I think we can take inspiration from the positives," he explained.

He also disagreed with people who believe that seven years is a long time for a country in the Test arena to show their mettle.

"I don't think seven years is a long time and I just request everybody to go through the history of the game of the other countries. There is no shortcut. There is a structure and passion with the game in Bangladesh and we just have to do all the things properly. It is just a matter of time that Bangladesh start to play good Test cricket," he explained.

"I don't want to be critical on my boys. Yes, others might think differently but I have a very simple philosophy of not being critical," he said.

"Tough one to answer" was his reply when he was asked whether he has a team that is too young for Test cricket."

Copied and pasted from the other thread, for those who haven't read this already ... :)

yaseer
July 2, 2007, 11:15 PM
I was not wishing mushfique to play........
Now that he has been selected, hope he keeps well first and score some runs....we desperately need to do well in this test.....

Baundule
July 3, 2007, 01:33 AM
The Hero is gone. Survives 9 deliveries!

Huda
July 3, 2007, 01:42 AM
I just hope they dont throw out Mushy if he fails in the 2nd test.. he should play both the tests. And for Mehrab.. okay the kid deserves a chance.. he bowls some leg spinners too..so why not? Sakib can concentrate on ODIs since Tests aint working.

mehrab is a lefty, SLA, doesn't bowl leggys

Dhakablues
July 3, 2007, 01:56 AM
The Hero is gone. Survives 9 deliveries!

Atleast the crowd is happy,, he didnt "Waste" 81 test deliveries and didnt score a boundary, right?

Baundule
July 3, 2007, 02:02 AM
Atleast the crowd is happy,, he didnt "Waste" 81 test deliveries and didnt score a boundary, right?

Very right. So, now we can go for lunch with all the pressure released. We dont need to bat after it.

ammark
July 3, 2007, 02:15 AM
mehrab is a lefty, SLA, doesn't bowl leggys

To an excellent delivery from Murali. Full credit to the bowler.

WarWolf
July 3, 2007, 02:27 AM
They should keep on playing the Mushy and Mehrab. No point in shuffling again and again.

Dhakablues
July 3, 2007, 11:07 AM
btw: I found this link which mentions that Mashud proposed that the team drop him for Mushfiq.
http://www.amardeshbd.com/detail_news_index.php?NewsID=118520&NewsType=bistarito&SectionID=home&oldIssueID=2007/07/02

WarWolf
July 3, 2007, 11:18 AM
btw: I found this link which mentions that Mashud proposed that the team drop him for Mushfiq.
http://www.amardeshbd.com/detail_news_index.php?NewsID=118520&NewsType=bistarito&SectionID=home&oldIssueID=2007/07/02
If this news is true, this an example of a great man. This also shows how desperate the players are to perform, yet they can't.

Baundule
July 3, 2007, 02:18 PM
btw: I found this link which mentions that Mashud proposed that the team drop him for Mushfiq.
http://www.amardeshbd.com/detail_news_index.php?NewsID=118520&NewsType=bistarito&SectionID=home&oldIssueID=2007/07/02

If this is true, I praise KM, the great politician. ;)
After the first test experience he knows very well how difficult it would be for Mushfiq to face this SL bowlers. They are no cheap craps like Zim or Kenya. So, this is the time to show the world that Mushy, the batsman is worse than KM.

And we saw that. 9 deliveries!

Antora
July 3, 2007, 09:03 PM
btw: I found this link which mentions that Mashud proposed that the team drop him for Mushfiq.
http://www.amardeshbd.com/detail_news_index.php?NewsID=118520&NewsType=bistarito&SectionID=home&oldIssueID=2007/07/02

awwwwwwwwwww how sweet of mashud.... if this is TRUE i praise mashud and i promise neva to bash him again!!!!!!!!

ialbd
July 4, 2007, 11:34 AM
ekdom natok banay felse dekhi....

nonetheless hats off to Mashud, if this is indeed true...

Ahmed_B
July 4, 2007, 03:10 PM
If this is true, I praise KM, the great politician. ;)
After the first test experience he knows very well how difficult it would be for Mushfiq to face this SL bowlers. They are no cheap craps like Zim or Kenya. So, this is the time to show the world that Mushy, the batsman is worse than KM.
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ialbd
July 5, 2007, 01:56 AM
bhablam ei thread tay ektu nara dei......